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Democrat Double Agent Trump is on my script!!
There is nothing wrong with him making some extra money while destroying the Republican party from within
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Two words...Clinton Foundation
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So, whats both your point? Both Hillary and Trump are rich, elite, and corrupt. Wow, you both hit the nail on the head. Groundbreaking. Before this thread, I always thought Hillary and Trump were completely honest.
Wah, my side is better than your side. No, my side is better than your side. Seriously, people who talk politics sound like 4th graders arguing over who is better at dodgeball. I assume this is all for the sake of getbig (trolling), and the "average" person (on getbig or on the street) realizes politics is all an illusion.
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So, whats both your point? Both Hillary and Trump are rich, elite, and corrupt. Wow, you both hit the nail on the head. Groundbreaking. Before this thread, I always thought Hillary and Trump were completely honest.
Wah, my side is better than your side. No, my side is better than your side. Seriously, people who talk politics sound like 4th graders arguing over who is better at dodgeball. I assume this is all for the sake of getbig (trolling), and the "average" person (on getbig or on the street) realizes politics is all an illusion.
(http://www.funelf.net/photos/The-illusion-of-free-choice.jpg)
Well, let's just say Killary like to taunt unfounded stories about the repub candidates but when legit facts are exposed about Killary they don't acknowledge it.
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I assume this is all for the sake of getbig (trolling), and the "average" person (on getbig or on the street) realizes politics is all an illusion.
Sadly some don't realize and they never will no matter how often you tell them it is just a puppet play / staged bullshit.
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lol
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Another bald cuck working for Zionist Jews telling us not to vote for the man who will change their way of life. Fucking over generations of Americans.
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Well, let's just say Killary like to taunt unfounded stories about the repub candidates but when legit facts are exposed about Killary they don't acknowledge it.
So, what's your point? People defend Trump like they are defending their father-figure. No difference. They don't acknowledge facts either.
You're just too naive to realize that Trump supporters defend Trump just as badly as Hillary supporters defend Hillary. As you know, I don't vote, and this is exactly why. Ill leave the voting to the people who are living in a grand illusion of hope from an imaginary parent figure (politician).
The constant defense of politicians appears to be a regression to the most infantile state where the infant believes that an all powerful parental figure will rescue him or her from some impending doom. And, of course, we vehemently defend a parental figure when they are attacked--for, if the parental-figure is attacked and destroyed, I, too, will experience the destruction of my own self--my self cannot exist without the other. Who will rescue me? As Freud said, "No one is more unattackable than the parent." Thus, which politician will rescue us?
In a nutshell, this is politics.
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Sadly some don't realize and they never will no matter how often you tell them it is just a puppet play / staged bullshit.
Which is why I hope most Americans are just engaging in one big troll job. I think 240 knows its all bullshit, but hes just trolling getbig. But there are actual people out there who really believe that politicians care about them and the American people. Boy, talk about having zero common sense. :-\ :-\
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Trump Foundation gave $25k to a group connected to Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, and then Pam Bondi decided to drop the investigation into Trump University.
If Trump had given money himself, then that could be considered quid pro quo.
But it is illegal for a charitable organization such as the Trump Foundation to make political donations. So Trump reimbursed the foundation the $25k and paid the IRS a penalty of $2500. So everything is ok now. Except the foundation didn't list the $25k to Bondi's org in their official filings, but to a similarly sounding Kansas City group that never got any money from them. Oh well.
http://wonkette.com/606196/trump-foundations-gift-to-florida-a-g-pam-bondi-was-a-little-illegal-is-that-a-crime
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Trump Foundation gave $25k to a group connected to Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, and then Pam Bondi decided to drop the investigation into Trump University.
If Trump had given money himself, then that could be considered quid pro quo.
But it is illegal for a charitable organization such as the Trump Foundation to make political donations. So Trump reimbursed the foundation the $25k and paid the IRS a penalty of $2500. So everything is ok now. Except the foundation didn't list the $25k to Bondi's org in their official filings, but to a similarly sounding Kansas City group that never got any money from them. Oh well.
http://wonkette.com/606196/trump-foundations-gift-to-florida-a-g-pam-bondi-was-a-little-illegal-is-that-a-crime
No bias what so ever....
"WonketteWonkette won the Best Liberal Blog category in the 2008 Weblog Awards and is nominated in the humor"
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20% of Trump's spending is going to his kids, or his companies.
17 million of his spending have gone to corporations that he/ his children own.
It's easy to just scream "liberal!" but it's tough for you to admit what is happening here - Trump is funneling $ to his own things. The RNC is doing very badly in fundraising.
How much did Trump raise last month/ What did hilary raise, 135 million or something? Trying to recall.
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No bias what so ever....
"WonketteWonkette won the Best Liberal Blog category in the 2008 Weblog Awards and is nominated in the humor"
the facts are still there, easily verified.
Trump Foundation gave $25k to Pam Bondi group, which in of itself is illegal
Pam Bondi dropped the investigation into Trump University, which is being sued by AGs in other states
Trump Foundation tried to hide the donation by claiming it went to another similarly named group, which is also illegal
When caught Trump paid the money back to Trump Foundation and also paid a fine to IRS.
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the facts are still there, easily verified.
Trump Foundation gave $25k to Pam Bondi group, which in of itself is illegal
Pam Bondi dropped the investigation into Trump University, which is being sued by AGs in other states
Trump Foundation tried to hide the donation by claiming it went to another similarly named group, which is also illegal
When caught Trump paid the money back to Trump Foundation and also paid a fine to IRS.
Tim, isn't this the point where you liberals say it is only fair that Hillary has stolen 90% of the $3 billion that was "donated" because she deserves it - and then blame George Bush?
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Tim, isn't this the point where you liberals say it is only fair that Hillary has stolen 90% of the $3 billion that was "donated" because she deserves it - and then blame George Bush?
wait a minute -
trump isn't a thief because hilary is one too?
I happen to believe they're both piece-of-shit thieves. Can't it be both? I don't understand this 2008 defense of "well, the dems do this..."
Trump is funneling 1/5 of donations to his own companies. He tripled the rent in his hotel for campaign workers once the RNC started footing the bill - and it was for FEWER workers! LOL
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wait a minute -
trump isn't a thief because hilary is one too?
I happen to believe they're both piece-of-shit thieves. Can't it be both? I don't understand this 2008 defense of "well, the dems do this..."
Trump is funneling 1/5 of donations to his own companies. He tripled the rent in his hotel for campaign workers once the RNC started footing the bill - and it was for FEWER workers! LOL
You should troll someone else. I think you're a complete fucking retard and you're wasting your time.
Send me the fucking link for Zimmerman's GoFundMe.
Because that fat guy owns your subnormal delusional mind.
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Tim, isn't this the point where you liberals say it is only fair that Hillary has stolen 90% of the $3 billion that was "donated" because she deserves it - and then blame George Bush?
Obviously we get different news, as I don't know what you are referring to. What is the exact illegal (or even unethical) claim you are making?
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/where-does-clinton-foundation-money-go/
"We looked at the consolidated financial statements (see page 4) and calculated that in 2013, 88.3 percent of spending was designated as going toward program services — $196.6 million out of $222.6 million in reported expenses."
Here is an independent review of the controversy
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/sep/01/fact-checking-clinton-foundation-controversy/
"Contrary to Priebus’ assertion, Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton receive no compensation from their work on the foundation’s board of directors, according to tax documents."
"Defending the Clintons and their foundation, Democratic pundit Hilary Rosen said "they take no salary, they get no money from it, they take no personal benefit from it." We rated her claim Mostly True." (as it can be said the foundation boosts their public image and therefore they can command higher speaking fees)
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So, what's your point? People defend Trump like they are defending their father-figure. No difference. They don't acknowledge facts either.
You're just too naive to realize that Trump supporters defend Trump just as badly as Hillary supporters defend Hillary. As you know, I don't vote, and this is exactly why. Ill leave the voting to the people who are living in a grand illusion of hope from an imaginary parent figure (politician).
The constant defense of politicians appears to be a regression to the most infantile state where the infant believes that an all powerful parental figure will rescue him or her from some impending doom. And, of course, we vehemently defend a parental figure when they are attacked--for, if the parental-figure is attacked and destroyed, I, too, will experience the destruction of my own self--my self cannot exist without the other. Who will rescue me? As Freud said, "No one is more unattackable than the parent." Thus, which politician will rescue us?
In a nutshell, this is politics.
You do realize that this is a nation of laws and there is a Supreme Court and decisions policies made by the people we elect have lasting consequences be it economic issues or social issues. Only a moron would think its "an illusion". Its not. People who think this way are part of the problem of why we get the shitty government we deserve (if they go around thinking nonsense like that)
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Predict now. In 5 days, will this trend continue, with Trump catching and/or leading hilary?
If HoffComposte is right, and 41.7% is Trump's local maximum, which he is at now--- then it'll start to drop now at worst, and just stay at this level at best.
Are these diehard liberals correct? Or will trump continue to make gains - breaking the limit and move up to 43, 44, 45%? WIll hilary keep falling? Predict now!
Examine the trend at http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton
There is a clear cyclical variation operating for the last few months in Trump's numbers. Also we appear to be at local maximum (his best performance is (usually) around 42%.
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It's just a big theater - I like the Trump-et because he is a symbol for being cocky, wielding some power, not giving in to tiny tits, etc. essentially something I demand from an American president. Somebody has to stomp on the ground and make the rules and in the process farting into the faces of the other wannabe kings of the globe.
On the other hand this all seems like a big theater. Bernie and Trump are symbols of a society where a common denominator is hard to find. This means conflict and a weak nation.
Same here in Europe although the situation is a bit more clear cut.
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You do realize that this is a nation of laws and there is a Supreme Court and decisions policies made by the people we elect have lasting consequences be it economic issues or social issues. Only a moron would think its "an illusion". Its not. People who think this way are part of the problem of why we get the shitty government we deserve (if they go around thinking nonsense like that)
1) yes I know that
2) it's an illusion in the sense that people actually believe that politicians have the best interest in mind for people
3) the psychological defense of politicians still stands
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Obviously we get different news, as I don't know what you are referring to. What is the exact illegal (or even unethical) claim you are making?
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/where-does-clinton-foundation-money-go/
"We looked at the consolidated financial statements (see page 4) and calculated that in 2013, 88.3 percent of spending was designated as going toward program services — $196.6 million out of $222.6 million in reported expenses."
Here is an independent review of the controversy
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/sep/01/fact-checking-clinton-foundation-controversy/
"Contrary to Priebus’ assertion, Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton receive no compensation from their work on the foundation’s board of directors, according to tax documents."
"Defending the Clintons and their foundation, Democratic pundit Hilary Rosen said "they take no salary, they get no money from it, they take no personal benefit from it." We rated her claim Mostly True." (as it can be said the foundation boosts their public image and therefore they can command higher speaking fees)
How about......no.
https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-Clinton-Foundation-money-goes-to-real-and-actual-charities-that-are-not-controlled-by-the-Clintons
Yet you continue to try to defend those thieves. Pathetic really.
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You really got'm this time.
The Muslim, the "Assasination," Melania the Illegal all resulted in a tightening race, but, this, this is a biggie that will seal the deal:
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https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-Clinton-Foundation-money-goes-to-real-and-actual-charities-that-are-not-controlled-by-the-Clintons
did you read the link you provided? It's like saying don't give to the Red Cross because the Red Cross doesn't give the money to any other disaster relief organizations.
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did you read the link you provided? It's like saying don't give to the Red Cross because the Red Cross doesn't give the money to any other disaster relief organizations.
Do you really think Hillary Clinton is less crooked than any of the politicians on either side that ran for the nomination this year?
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did you read the link you provided? It's like saying don't give to the Red Cross because the Red Cross doesn't give the money to any other disaster relief organizations.
Sure Tim....and using $50 million to "maintain" the image of the Bill Clinton Presidential Library is 100% legit. Or the $25 million in travel expenses, or the $50 million in "general expenses"....mmmm-kay!
Thieves should be in jail...and hopefully they will be soon
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Hilary is coughing nonstop during her speech in Cleveland right now. Can't stop. She's looking awful.
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Sure Tim....and using $50 million to "maintain" the image of the Bill Clinton Presidential Library is 100% legit. Or the $25 million in travel expenses, or the $50 million in "general expenses"....mmmm-kay!
Thieves should be in jail...and hopefully they will be soon
So progressive. hahahahahaha
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Sure Tim....and using $50 million to "maintain" the image of the Bill Clinton Presidential Library is 100% legit. Or the $25 million in travel expenses, or the $50 million in "general expenses"....mmmm-kay!
again, you need to provide links. I've not been able to find what you're referring to using google.
Thieves should be in jail...and hopefully they will be soon
what crimes have they committed? I'm all for more transparency laws, and overturning Citizens United. But under current law I don't see what laws have been broken.
Donald Trump, well there is
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-texas-official-says-he-was-told-to-drop-trump-university-probe/
and
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration
and
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/exclusive-donald-trump-made-millions-saudi-government-article-1.2777211
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Guys, you will see this video. Fox and cnn were not covering it. MSNBC was.
She coughed nonstop for at least 30 seconds then feebly spoke for a few minutes before they pulled it.
Face and neck puffy, eyes baggy, wearing the big suit set. She just had 2 weeks of rest and she looks way worse.
This will be huge news in an hour.
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Guys, you will see this video. Fox and cnn were not covering it. MSNBC was.
She coughed nonstop for at least 30 seconds then feebly spoke for a few minutes before they pulled it.
Face and neck puffy, eyes baggy, wearing the big suit set. She just had 2 weeks of rest and she looks way worse.
This will be huge news in an hour.
Here you go.
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Guys, you will see this video. Fox and cnn were not covering it. MSNBC was.
She coughed nonstop for at least 30 seconds then feebly spoke for a few minutes before they pulled it.
Face and neck puffy, eyes baggy, wearing the big suit set. She just had 2 weeks of rest and she looks way worse.
This will be huge news in an hour.
That coughing fit is nuts. There is something seriously wrong with her.
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Here you go.
Hey Adam, are you off for Labor Day?
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The LA times poll is an outlier though.
It's fluctuated more than all of the others as well.
It's also self admitted to be republican leaning.
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again, you need to provide links. I've not been able to find what you're referring to using google.
what crimes have they committed? I'm all for more transparency laws, and overturning Citizens United. But under current law I don't see what laws have been broken.
Donald Trump, well there is
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-texas-official-says-he-was-told-to-drop-trump-university-probe/
and
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration
and
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/exclusive-donald-trump-made-millions-saudi-government-article-1.2777211
https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-Clinton-Foundation-money-goes-to-real-and-actual-charities-that-are-not-controlled-by-the-Clintons
Timillary...stop trying to be coy. It is not hard to find many articles (outside of the Lib rag NYT) showing the Clintons ran their foundation as a pay for play shell game.
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The LA times poll is an outlier though.
It's fluctuated more than all of the others as well.
It's also self admitted to be republican leaning.
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:D
I think it's great.
Most insane and crazy season of politics ever.
I won't vote for either of them, but it makes for interesting shit.
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I think it's great.
Most insane and crazy season of politics ever.
I won't vote for either of them, but it makes for interesting shit.
I think Trump is actually a solid choice and one of the best in a while. The arguments that are thrown against him are pretty ridiculous and have nothing to do with how he would actually govern and make decisions. People on here are still calling him racist and going on about Trump Steaks and pointless shit like that. Hilarious really.
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I think Trump is actually a solid choice and one of the best in a while. The arguments that are thrown against him are pretty ridiculous and have nothing to do with how he would actually govern and make decisions. People on here are still calling him racist and going on about Trump Steaks and pointless shit like that. Hilarious really.
I don't know if he would make good decisions though. I find him quite imbecilic at times myself.
I know he seems the guy that the "average guy" you would want to drink a beer with, but think about the last "beer drinker" we would want to hang out with turned out.
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Guys, you will see this video. Fox and cnn were not covering it. MSNBC was.
She coughed nonstop for at least 30 seconds then feebly spoke for a few minutes before they pulled it.
Face and neck puffy, eyes baggy, wearing the big suit set. She just had 2 weeks of rest and she looks way worse.
This will be huge news in an hour.
Heavy weed smoker. All the way heavy weed smoker.
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Here you go.
That cough is probably induced by a bad cold and/or allergies that have produced a terrible post-nasal drip with endless coughing.
She'll be alright.
"1"
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When does the one on one debates begin?
Having a stroke or coughing the fuck out for a minute could be very painful in that situation.
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That cough is probably induced by a bad cold and/or allergies that have produced a terrible post-nasal drip with endless coughing.
She'll be alright.
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I disagree. Hilary spoke in the public limelight for decades. This cough was never present.
Over the past year, after hte head injury and as other symptoms showed, she suddenly developed the cough, the seizure-like movements.
She didn't magically develop allergies to cleveland pollen this year. She campaigned in OH many times before. I have allergy coughs/snotty. Her voice was weak 45 seconds after drinking water. This was worse than pollen allergies. We have decades of film of her not being allergic.
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When does the one on one debates begin?
Monday Sept 26, Hofstra University, Hempstead, New York
Tuesday Oct 4, Longwood University, Farmville, Virginia (Vice Presidents)
Sunday Oct 9, Washington University, St Louis, Missouri
Wednesday Oct 19, University of Nevada, Las Vegas, Nevada
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That coughing fit is nuts. There is something seriously wrong with her.
The Liberal Media, once again, showing its George Costanza-Like instincts:
Hillary Clinton Looks Strong Heading Into Fall
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57cca425e4b0e60d31df9836
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I think Trump is actually a solid choice and one of the best in a while. The arguments that are thrown against him are pretty ridiculous and have nothing to do with how he would actually govern and make decisions. People on here are still calling him racist and going on about Trump Steaks and pointless shit like that. Hilarious really.
how do you know this?
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Hillary is probably on some sort of diazepam like Klonopin. Nothing wrong with that, either. JFK was bedridden for, what, a year of his presidency?
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Hillary is probably on some sort of diazepam like Klonopin. Nothing wrong with that, either. JFK was bedridden for, what, a year of his presidency?
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Kennedy suffered from colitis, prostatitis, and a disorder called Addison's disease, which affects the body's ability to regulate blood sugar and sodium. He also had osteoporosis of the lower back, causing pain so severe that he was unable to perform simple tasks such as reaching across his desk to pull papers forward, or pulling the shoe and sock onto his left foot.
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Two words...Clinton Foundation
Two wrongs do not make a right. Lame reply.
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Well, let's just say Killary like to taunt unfounded stories about the repub candidates but when legit facts are exposed about Killary they don't acknowledge it.
Seriously, are you this deluded that you honestly don't understand the widespread corruption in politics regardless of whether it's from the republican or democratic side? Neither side is going to acknowledge any wrong doing. Grow up!
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Another bald cuck working for Zionist Jews telling us not to vote for the man who will change their way of life. Fucking over generations of Americans.
Seriously, I hope you will vote for the "man who will change their way of life." Just don't come whining when that change put's you and a whole lot of others in the crapper.
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So, what's your point? People defend Trump like they are defending their father-figure. No difference. They don't acknowledge facts either.
You're just too naive to realize that Trump supporters defend Trump just as badly as Hillary supporters defend Hillary. As you know, I don't vote, and this is exactly why. Ill leave the voting to the people who are living in a grand illusion of hope from an imaginary parent figure (politician).
The constant defense of politicians appears to be a regression to the most infantile state where the infant believes that an all powerful parental figure will rescue him or her from some impending doom. And, of course, we vehemently defend a parental figure when they are attacked--for, if the parental-figure is attacked and destroyed, I, too, will experience the destruction of my own self--my self cannot exist without the other. Who will rescue me? As Freud said, "No one is more unattackable than the parent." Thus, which politician will rescue us?
In a nutshell, this is politics.
I am a political activist, and sadly I understand where your decision not to vote may be the only way to maintain some level of personal sanity in the political fiasco. At least acknowledge that 99% of all politicians are corrupt. Voting requires we the people to chose between the best of the worst. This means we're asked to settle. If you look at the approval ratings for both HRC and Trump, this theory is verified. Unlike you, I will vote. It may be valueless, but I cannot bring myself to totally bow out. Sometimes elections results hinge on just one vote.