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Title: 2016 Olympia - Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: Danimal77 on September 18, 2016, 12:01:31 AM
He was off big time tonight. Sporting a gut, soft, flat, narrow and just plain unimpressive. Would have placed him 6th imo. Big Ramy, Dexter, Bonac and even Roelly should have placed ahead of him. That was a very undeserving 2nd place for Rhoden tonight. A gift indeed.
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Post by: musclecenter on September 18, 2016, 12:05:51 AM
agree
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Post by: Da Freak on September 18, 2016, 02:38:35 AM
just another shitty Olympia thats all.
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Post by: mass243 on September 18, 2016, 02:39:50 AM
True. And not that impressive structure-wise either.

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Post by: FermiDirac on September 18, 2016, 02:52:50 AM
Give it a few years and the physique division will have completely overtaken the Mr O and the monster division will be just an attached afterthought for the schmoes and deviants, kinda like the route female BB took.
Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: mass243 on September 18, 2016, 02:54:46 AM
Give it a few years and the physique division will have completely overtaken the Mr O and the monster division will be just an attached afterthought for the schmoes and deviants, kinda like the route female BB took.

Haha, sure  ::)

Did they finally break the 100 strong audience in bikini boy contest this year?

Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: mass243 on September 18, 2016, 02:56:55 AM
That's like saying no one will be interested in under 10 sec class of 100m sprint at the Olympics in few years.
Everyone will rather watch twinks running it in 13 seconds.
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Post by: Simple Simon on September 18, 2016, 03:00:27 AM
That's like saying no one will be interested in under 10 sec class of 100m sprint at the Olympics in few years.
Everyone will rather watch twinks running it in 13 seconds.

lol, bodybuilding isnt a sport at all, you cant compare it with the Olympics

Its a beauty pageant, and at the moment the competitors are ugly.
Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: Macrofitter on September 18, 2016, 03:32:58 AM
He was off big time tonight. Sporting a gut, soft, flat, narrow and just plain unimpressive. Would have placed him 6th imo. Big Ramy, Dexter, Bonac and even Roelly should have placed ahead of him. That was a very undeserving 2nd place for Rhoden tonight. A gift indeed.

Problem is, everyone els looked like shit as well.

Dexter - Worst showing in years.

Ramy - Worst showing in years.

Rhoden - Worst showing in years.

I'd have had Bonac in 2nd lol
Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: FermiDirac on September 18, 2016, 03:36:21 AM
That's like saying no one will be interested in under 10 sec class of 100m sprint at the Olympics in few years.
Everyone will rather watch twinks running it in 13 seconds.


It's just a case of supply and demand. Look at the youtube and the fitness community at large. People like Jeff Seid are way more popular than any top bodybuilder. Younger generations are more inclined to follow guys like Seid or those others, perhaps they imagine that if they could look like that then they would get the girls. The physique guys are generating way more revenue and provides a larger platform for exposure to supplement companies, heck, they even provide their own content like youtube, instagram, facebook.
Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: mass243 on September 18, 2016, 03:40:30 AM
It's just a case of supply and demand. Look at the youtube and the fitness community at large. People like Jeff Seid are way more popular than any top bodybuilder. Younger generations are more inclined to follow guys like Seid or those others, perhaps they imagine that if they could look like that then they would get the girls. The physique guys are generating way more revenue and provides a larger platform for exposure to supplement companies, heck, they even provide their own content like youtube, instagram, facebook.

Well, that's a social media thing.
I doubt people would come in masses to see guys like that on stage.

Rich Piano has more following in social media than top pros.

Even Jason Genova beats most pro bodybuilders on social media.
Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: FermiDirac on September 18, 2016, 03:46:00 AM
Well, that's a social media thing.
I doubt people would come in masses to see guys like that on stage.

Rich Piano has more following in social media than top pros.

Even Jason Genova beats most pro bodybuilders on social media.


The point is that the market will adjust. You don't go and inflate one part of the sport if another part has a much bigger demographic. One caters to schmoes/deviants and one to people closer to the norm. Which has the potential of generating the largest amount of revenue?
My guess is that the physique/classic divisions will slowly take over the Olympia event, especially as the younger generation of fans are growing older and become the consumer main target.
Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: mass243 on September 18, 2016, 03:52:25 AM
The point is that the market will adjust. You don't go and inflate one part of the sport if another part has a much bigger demographic. One caters to schmoes/deviants and one to people closer to the norm. Which has the potential of generating the largest amount of revenue?
My guess is that the physique/classic divisions will slowly take over the Olympia event, especially as the younger generation of fans are growing older and become the consumer main target.

You might be right.
Or I might be right.
I still have hard time believing people would pay to see "normal". People have always wanted to see something special, something out of this world. I can't remember any case where the less impressive and more easily achievable would have won the battle about peoples interest.

Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: FermiDirac on September 18, 2016, 04:21:40 AM
You might be right.
Or I might be right.
I still have hard time believing people would pay to see "normal". People have always wanted to see something special, something out of this world. I can't remember any case where the less impressive and more easily achievable would have won the battle about peoples interest.



But that is the point, how can "twinks" such as bradley martin or jeff seid dwarf the BB pros in regards to media exposure and popularity if the freak factor was the only thing creating ticket sales? The smaller guys are the equivalent of the girl-next-door thing, people like to imagine that they would have a chance of attaining a similar build (and the accompanying success that comes with it in regards to girls, money, fame). A guy like Jeff Seid is easier to relate to as he's young, have similar interests to to his fans (gaming, goofing around like kids do and such). Compare that to the dead face of some of the ifbb heavyweight pros, talking in a monotonous tone about steamed vegetables and strict protocols for growth. You can only talk so much about boiled chicken and concentration curls for biceps before it gets boring. One has an increasing growth in he industry, the other is inching forwards in comparison. The industry failed to realise the potential market of the younger people and got punished severely for this, as these no-name physique guys basically devoured the entire sector and have an oligopoly grip on that demographic.

There is a lot of turmoil in the market since these social media guys started to become a large part of the industry sector. Long gone are those days of the media being controlled by a few major names (like MD), now everything is out there and basically anyone with a camera and some social media accounts can make a name for themselves if their content is of interest. Everyone and their grandmother has a clothing line and a supplement line. Having things like that was basically unheard of if you weren't an industry giant just 10 years ago. Just look at that vegan gains guy, he grew exponentially and can now live off his social media just by posting vids using scientific articles to debunk broscience and bogus claims. Same with Rich Piana who got so famous just by "keeping it real". Just 5-10 years ago, these guys wouldn't even have had a platform to use and now they have their own production line of articles. The market is in turmoil as it's adjusting to these changes, which is for the better as an open market creates harder competition and a strain on the industry giants who grew complacent with time. 
Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: Mr Anabolic on September 18, 2016, 06:17:45 AM
Where are all the Mr.O. pictures that Getbig usually has?

Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: 8 INCH not biceps on September 18, 2016, 06:23:14 AM
Give it a few years and the physique division will have completely overtaken the Mr O and the monster division will be just an attached afterthought for the schmoes and deviants, kinda like the route female BB took.
That won't happen there was very little buzz on social media about physique everybody was talking about the big guys at the end of the day people will always want to see feaks
Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: 8 INCH not biceps on September 18, 2016, 06:44:21 AM
But that is the point, how can "twinks" such as bradley martin or jeff seid dwarf the BB pros in regards to media exposure and popularity if the freak factor was the only thing creating ticket sales? The smaller guys are the equivalent of the girl-next-door thing, people like to imagine that they would have a chance of attaining a similar build (and the accompanying success that comes with it in regards to girls, money, fame). A guy like Jeff Seid is easier to relate to as he's young, have similar interests to to his fans (gaming, goofing around like kids do and such). Compare that to the dead face of some of the ifbb heavyweight pros, talking in a monotonous tone about steamed vegetables and strict protocols for growth. You can only talk so much about boiled chicken and concentration curls for biceps before it gets boring. One has an increasing growth in he industry, the other is inching forwards in comparison. The industry failed to realise the potential market of the younger people and got punished severely for this, as these no-name physique guys basically devoured the entire sector and have an oligopoly grip on that demographic.

There is a lot of turmoil in the market since these social media guys started to become a large part of the industry sector. Long gone are those days of the media being controlled by a few major names (like MD), now everything is out there and basically anyone with a camera and some social media accounts can make a name for themselves if their content is of interest. Everyone and their grandmother has a clothing line and a supplement line. Having things like that was basically unheard of if you weren't an industry giant just 10 years ago. Just look at that vegan gains guy, he grew exponentially and can now live off his social media just by posting vids using scientific articles to debunk broscience and bogus claims. Same with Rich Piana who got so famous just by "keeping it real". Just 5-10 years ago, these guys wouldn't even have had a platform to use and now they have their own production line of articles. The market is in turmoil as it's adjusting to these changes, which is for the better as an open market creates harder competition and a strain on the industry giants who grew complacent with time. 
Doctor doom  these guys don't make as much money as you think YouTube pays very little unless you are getting millions of views on each video muscle tech has 139 thousand followers on Instagram  while shredz has 2 million but what shredz makes is a drop in the bucket compared to muscle tech
Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: Kwon on September 18, 2016, 06:44:51 AM
Roelly looked great
Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: Simple Simon on September 18, 2016, 06:50:49 AM
Where are all the Mr.O. pictures that Getbig usually has?


No one cares anymore...
Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: Kwon on September 18, 2016, 07:04:08 AM
Where are all the Mr.O. pictures that Getbig usually has?



They're no good to us anymore...
Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: Papper on September 18, 2016, 09:45:39 AM
No one cares anymore...

When I saw that Ramy wasn't on point I lost all interest.. Guess it's Phil for a couple more years
Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: Danimal77 on September 18, 2016, 11:11:11 AM
Problem is, everyone els looked like shit as well.

Dexter - Worst showing in years.

Ramy - Worst showing in years.

Rhoden - Worst showing in years.

I'd have had Bonac in 2nd lol

Agreed. Bonac should have been 2nd, Roelly 3rd, Ramy 4th Dexter 5th and after that who cares...
Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: kepler2008 on September 18, 2016, 12:39:16 PM
- big gut
- flex wheeler calves
- lazy
- smooth
- flabby appearance

Bonac should have been ahead (1st or 2nd). Great symmetry, 3D effect, small waist. Remind me of 81' Dany Padilla.
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Post by: Nether Animal on September 18, 2016, 12:45:25 PM
Rhoden is like WHEELER with a worse BDB and weak arms
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Post by: Bevo on September 18, 2016, 01:59:13 PM
Rhoden is like WHEELER with a worse BDB and weak arms

He's nowhere near flex, Rhoden and flex shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence
Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: mass243 on September 18, 2016, 02:06:03 PM
Rhoden is like WHEELER with a worse BDB and weak arms. He's black.

That's deep. Almost philosophical.
Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: Nether Animal on September 18, 2016, 02:16:26 PM
He's nowhere near flex, Rhoden and flex shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence


That is what I was implying, basically
Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: jude2 on September 18, 2016, 03:29:53 PM
I think Kai could have won this one.
Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: 3Dkiller on September 19, 2016, 08:32:25 AM
Shawn Roden second its all about politics... even with that GUT he became second ???.
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Post by: nzmusclemonster on September 19, 2016, 08:59:41 AM
He paid his jews
Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: RagingBull on September 19, 2016, 09:32:13 AM
Thick skin and bloated belly.  Who cares about a small waist when there's a big, bloated gut right above it.  Also, his legs over shadow his upper body.  I had him in 5th place tops.
Title: Re: 2016 Olympia - Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: gib on September 19, 2016, 07:44:51 PM
Agree. Rammy, Rolly and josh and Dex all should have placed ahead of him.
Title: Re: 2016 Olympia - Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: SquidVicious on September 19, 2016, 08:09:15 PM
Why do the powers that be love this soft, fake arm, bloated and watery belly of a mess so much??
Title: Re: Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: Danimal77 on September 19, 2016, 08:23:54 PM
Shawn Roden second its all about politics... even with that GUT he became second ???.

I know, it's pathetic. 3rd to 6th place spots all deserved to be higher than him.
Title: Re: 2016 Olympia - Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: oldschoolfan on September 19, 2016, 11:11:07 PM
guys do you think his high placing is due to arnold liking him so much ,
Title: Re: 2016 Olympia - Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: gib on September 19, 2016, 11:37:32 PM
guys do you think his high placing is due to arnold liking him so much ,

That was Cedric (not Shawn).
Title: Re: 2016 Olympia - Shawn Rhoden did not deserve 2nd place.
Post by: oldschoolfan on September 20, 2016, 06:35:41 AM
That was Cedric (not Shawn).

bwa ha ha you got me there bro, being up to late and drunk messes with my 1st grade reading level !