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Fox News Poll: Trump tops Clinton in battlegrounds Nevada, N. Carolina, Ohio
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/21/fox-news-poll-trump-tops-clinton-in-battlegrounds-nevada-n-carolina-ohio.html
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Fox News Poll: Trump tops Clinton in battlegrounds Nevada, N. Carolina, Ohio
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/21/fox-news-poll-trump-tops-clinton-in-battlegrounds-nevada-n-carolina-ohio.html
Trump peaked a few days ago, Coach. Yes, he's doing great in those states. But this is not the direction he wants to see the national trend lines going.
As I keep saying man - he's tanking it. Today he says he wants stop-and-frisk, a MAJOR civil rights violation. Then he calls the cop who did the shooting saying she choked - and he said it twice.
ANd he's not preparing for the debates, the most important of his life - just not bothering. Trying to lose.
Look at these nat'l trends, man.
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Trump peaked a few days ago, Coach. Yes, he's doing great in those states. But this is not the direction he wants to see the national trend lines going.
As I keep saying man - he's tanking it. Today he says he wants stop-and-frisk, a MAJOR civil rights violation. Then he calls the cop who did the shooting saying she choked - and he said it twice.
ANd he's not preparing for the debates, the most important of his life - just not bothering. Trying to lose.
Look at these nat'l trends, man.
LOL, find a poll that works for you and keep pushing the agenda, huh? ;)
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It's actually a collection of ALL the polls.
If I was just circle jerking on the outlier LA Times poll each day (and he's falling there too), you could say that.
But this is the average of ALL of the polls. About as accurate as you're gonna get. Trump is fading, it's starting to be obvious now. He NEEDS hilary to collapse at the debates.
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It's actually a collection of ALL the polls.
If I was just circle jerking on the outlier LA Times poll each day (and he's falling there too), you could say that.
But this is the average of ALL of the polls. About as accurate as you're gonna get. Trump is fading, it's starting to be obvious now. He NEEDS hilary to collapse at the debates.
Where are you getting that from?
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LOL, find a poll that works for you and keep pushing the agenda, huh? ;)
Yep. He (and other liberals) are probably on Prozac at this point. Suicide watch. lol
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Yep. He (and other liberals) are probably on Prozac at this point. Suicide watch. lol
He claims that his "trend" poll is "all polls" combined daily......I'd like to know exactly which polls they are actually including in this chart.
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He claims that his "trend" poll is "all polls" combined daily......I'd like to know exactly which polls they are actually including in this chart.
Me too. And I don't believe anything he says. Even when he's telling the truth he's probably lying. lol
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Me too. And I don't believe anything he says. Even when he's telling the truth he's probably lying. lol
Most of them do.
Still waiting on that link though.......
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Where are you getting that from?
This chart combines the latest opinion polls into trendlines using a poll-tracking model and is updated whenever a new poll is released.
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton
Float over all the RED dots - you will see all the polls where Trump is wrecking hilary. Up 51 to 49 in a recent one.
This poll is important because it shows the total trend over time. Trump sagging the last few days here isn't a good thing. Yes, he's doing well in some polls today. But he was doing better last week. And he HAS to come up if he wants to win. Peaking at an average level he already had on July 20th is no good.
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Huffington Post...lol.
No bias there.
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240 needs to be monitored for suicide watch
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Huffington Post...lol.
No bias there.
the poll is stocked wtih conservative polls. To mock it is to avoid what I'm saying - Trump is falling, man.
do you have another aggregator of ALL polls? share it.
WIKI has the same info.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2016
Trump is fading, coach. In the overall average of polls, he was doing better last week than he is this week.
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Huffington Post...lol.
No bias there.
No wonder he didn't post a link.
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No wonder he didn't post a link.
can anyone here post a national average of polls showing them all dotted, along with trend lines?
I mean, IF huffCOmposte is tugging on the numbers, surely you have another one which averages all the polls and tells a story where trump is up by 4.
No? You don't have one? Okay. Crap on huffPo without having an average. but I'm the right about this. The Donald has faded over the past few days. He had momentum, then he stepped in shit (i think purposely), starting feuds and getting into the birther bullshit again.
he had the lead acting dignified. Now he's just being childish again, and his daily averages have tapered.
EVEN LA TIMES DROPPED HIM FROM +7 to +5. If NOTHING else, explain how that isn't a decline.
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the poll is stocked wtih conservative polls.
O Rly?
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O Rly?
float over the red dots in the top half - they're all trump leading. Trump just can't crack what he already achieved this summer.
Source: The Hill
Hillary Clinton is bouncing back after a week of bad polling news, upping her lead over Donald Trump to 5 points, according to a new national poll released Tuesday morning.
Clinton has 50 percent support among likely voters, while Trump is at 45 percent, the NBC News poll found.
In the same poll last week, Clinton led Trump 48 to 44 percent.
The Democratic presidential nominee maintains her 5-point lead when third-party candidates are added in. Clinton has 45 percent in that scenario, while Trump has 40 percent, Libertarian Gary Johnson has 10 percent and Jill Stein of the Green Party has 4 percent.
Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/296778-poll-clinton-regains-five-point-lead-over-trump
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float over the red dots in the top half - they're all trump leading. Trump just can't crack what he already achieved this summer.
Source: The Hill
Hillary Clinton is bouncing back after a week of bad polling news, upping her lead over Donald Trump to 5 points, according to a new national poll released Tuesday morning.
Clinton has 50 percent support among likely voters, while Trump is at 45 percent, the NBC News poll found.
In the same poll last week, Clinton led Trump 48 to 44 percent.
The Democratic presidential nominee maintains her 5-point lead when third-party candidates are added in. Clinton has 45 percent in that scenario, while Trump has 40 percent, Libertarian Gary Johnson has 10 percent and Jill Stein of the Green Party has 4 percent.
Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/296778-poll-clinton-regains-five-point-lead-over-trump
the poll is stocked wtih conservative polls.
I don't have to float over anything. I looked at the list of polls. The link is not "stocked with conservative polls." Dude you lie about everything, even insignificant things. Good grief.
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I could quote just as many polls showing Trump going up and your hero killary going down.
And the red/blue dots did nothing for me ???
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I could quote just as many polls showing Trump going up and your hero killary going down.
And the red/blue dots did nothing for me ???
individual ones? OR MANY?
Show me a grid like this, with many national polls, averaged out. Show me one with at least 288 polls from 38 pollsters, as you get here.
almost 300 polls averaged - and trump is falling in this average.
Just screaming 'libs!' doesn't show us a collection of 300 polls averaged showing otherwise.
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individual ones? OR MANY?
Show me a grid like this, with many national polls, averaged out. Show me one with at least 288 polls from 38 pollsters, as you get here.
almost 300 polls averaged - and trump is falling in this average.
Just screaming 'libs!' doesn't show us a collection of 300 polls averaged showing otherwise.
Again, where are these polls coming from? Any average can be skewed.
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Again, where are these polls coming from? Any average can be skewed.
click the link - huffpost links every single one of them.
Nobody can produce an average of polls that shows Trump winning. Because he isn't. He peaked a few days ago, and as the page shows, his numbers have very slowly started to fall over the past few days.
an average, by definition, cannot be skewed because its entries aren't weighted.
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click the link - huffpost links every single one of them.
Nobody can produce an average of polls that shows Trump winning. Because he isn't. He peaked a few days ago, and as the page shows, his numbers have very slowly started to fall over the past few days.
an average, by definition, cannot be skewed because its entries aren't weighted.
Sure they are, depending if they added more left leaning or right leaning polls to the average, they could easily skew the results as they'd like. And from the reaction of a couple of fellas above, the huffington doesn't come across as a straight shooter. You're banking more on it cause it's multiple polls, I get it, you want killary to win and huffingtons manipulation of specific poll averaged shows that.
But lets back up a second, you still believe Trump is a plant right?
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Sure they are, depending if they added more left leaning or right leaning polls to the average, they could easily skew the results as they'd like. And from the reaction of a couple of fellas above, the huffington doesn't come across as a straight shooter. You're banking more on it cause it's multiple polls, I get it, you want killary to win and huffingtons manipulation of specific poll averaged shows that.
But lets back up a second, you still believe Trump is a plant right?
so again - do you have any other website which combines numberous presidential polls, with a trend line?
I can't believe huffcomposte is the only one. Gotta be others with this kind of trend line.
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so again - do you have any other website which combines numberous presidential polls, with a trend line?
I can't believe huffcomposte is the only one. Gotta be others with this kind of trend line.
Do you still think Trump is a plant?
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so again - do you have any other website which combines numberous presidential polls, with a trend line?
I can't believe huffcomposte is the only one. Gotta be others with this kind of trend line.
???
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
No secret scrolling over dots, tells you exactly the dates and the source. Wasn't too difficult and they only having your killary leading by 1.9......first one that pops up on google when you search trump clinton average polls.........weird how you couldn't seem to find it.
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Here's another one, they don't have a nifty chart but their average shows killary up by 2......
http://www.electionprojection.com/latest-polls/national-presidential-polls-trump-vs-clinton.php
Weird how the chart you've been focusing on shows Trump in the worst light......hmmm
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Another one with a national average of Killary up by 2
http://www.270towin.com/2016-polls-clinton-trump/
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Here, you like charts and graphs check this one out.
http://electiongraphs.com/2016ec/
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Do you still think Trump is a plant?
Yes. Once again, we saw him snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
He had a VERY good climb & momentum after hilary's health incident on 9/11. So what did he do? After staying on message for a week, he decided to step in FOUR piles of shit simultaneously... bringing up anderson cooper out of the blue, going full birther for a few days, calling the reverend a nervous mess, and there was 1 other thing that eludes me.
He FINALLY had her on the ropes, and he steps back to babble on about some BS, and pull all attention from her, and from his very good tax plan.
He has done this every time - and if you look at the average of the same polls for the same time period - he has started to fall over the past few days. EVEN if you feel the poll leans left - it had Trump fairly high early in the week, and he's seen a decline this week. EVEN if you throw that out completely - he LOST 2 points in the LA times poll, which repubs LOVE...
so yes, to answer your Q - I think he is doing this on purpose, to keep her in it. A dude as CRAZY and STRAIGHT FWD as trump should have no problem saying "I think hilary has this or that disease". I mean, he called bernie a COMMIE, but he won't call hilary Ill? Think on that, coach. Bernie was down 20 points and trump called him a COMMUNIST. hilary blacks out on 9/11, and trump won't talk about it? ;)
You know it doesnt make sense, coach.
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Here, you like charts and graphs check this one out.
http://electiongraphs.com/2016ec/
your poll shows EXACTLY what I said
He peaked a few days ago, and as the page shows, his numbers have very slowly started to fall over the past few days.
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your poll shows EXACTLY what I said
I posted 4 polls......they all show similar, Trump trails your hero killary by about 2, unlike the poll you've been trying to push that shows Trump down by about 4. All within the margin of error I might add. ;)
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I posted 4 polls......they all show similar, Trump trails your hero killary by about 2, unlike the poll you've been trying to push that shows Trump down by about 4. All within the margin of error I might add. ;)
yes - but in the past 4 days, trump has started to gradually decline after peaking a few days ago.
that's my whole point. i think he doesn't want to win. started doing well, so he stepped in birtherism, and voila, he's on the decline now. still up there, but not going up anymore, in fact coming down - and that's LA times too.
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yes - but in the past 4 days, trump has started to gradually decline after peaking a few days ago.
that's my whole point. i think he doesn't want to win. started doing well, so he stepped in birtherism, and voila, he's on the decline now. still up there, but not going up anymore, in fact coming down - and that's LA times too.
I don't think reality is going to sink in with you until you see private citizen, handcuffed Hillary being pushed in her wheelchair equipped with oxygen tank into the courthouse two years from now.
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I don't think reality is going to sink in with you until you see private citizen, handcuffed Hillary being pushed in her wheelchair equipped with oxygen tank into the courthouse two years from now.
that'd be hilarious, and I'm the first to call her a criminal. But the fact remains - over the past 4 days, trump's momentum has leveled off. whatever peak that was, it happened 5 days ago and he's cooled a bit. Birther and feud shit cooled momentum for him - once again.
I guess what i'm saying is - how many times does he have to rescue clinton from his own momentum, but stepping in verbal dog shit? And how many times until we stop saying he's immature/erratic, and start admitting he's doing it on purpose.
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that'd be hilarious, and I'm the first to call her a criminal. But the fact remains - over the past 4 days, trump's momentum has leveled off. whatever peak that was, it happened 5 days ago and he's cooled a bit. Birther and feud shit cooled momentum for him - once again.
I guess what i'm saying is - how many times does he have to rescue clinton from his own momentum, but stepping in verbal dog shit? And how many times until we stop saying he's immature/erratic, and start admitting he's doing it on purpose.
You haven't seen the polls Yamcha has posted?
Within the margin of error in Jersey.
Only 5 points down in FREAKING ILLINOIS!!
Nate Silver has it a basic coin flip at this point.
Trump has all the momentum at this point.
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You haven't seen the polls Yamcha has posted?
Within the margin of error in Jersey.
Only 5 points down in FREAKING ILLINOIS!!
Nate Silver has it a basic coin flip at this point.
Trump has all the momentum at this point.
Polls always lag a few days. And yes, he HAD it, 5 days ago. And while he's still doing better than her, his jets have cooled this week. The upward climb we've seen for 2 weeks has leveled off. That's what I'm saying, and that is what the huffopo AND the chaos link showed. I'm not saying hilary is whooping him - I'm saying he's cooled greatly over the past 5 days. Yes, the poll from jersey and illinois are great for him - but if that poll came out today, thursday, then the people were asked 2-3 days ago when he was hotter.
Monday will change everything. hiary either flushes him and regains lead, or she has seizures and DNC bounces her. I still don't see a path where this nation picks a dude that immature and insecure. And on man, he is both (don't take this as a clinton endorse - she's dog shit liar and sick too). but man oh man, is trump immature and reckless and, well, doesn't really understand many of the global political things and doesn't realize what he doesn't know. That's the scary part.
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Look at those eyes... She's deranged!
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Polls always lag a few days. And yes, he HAD it, 5 days ago. And while he's still doing better than her, his jets have cooled this week. The upward climb we've seen for 2 weeks has leveled off. That's what I'm saying, and that is what the huffopo AND the chaos link showed. I'm not saying hilary is whooping him - I'm saying he's cooled greatly over the past 5 days. Yes, the poll from jersey and illinois are great for him - but if that poll came out today, thursday, then the people were asked 2-3 days ago when he was hotter.
Monday will change everything. hiary either flushes him and regains lead, or she has seizures and DNC bounces her. I still don't see a path where this nation picks a dude that immature and insecure. And on man, he is both (don't take this as a clinton endorse - she's dog shit liar and sick too). but man oh man, is trump immature and reckless and, well, doesn't really understand many of the global political things and doesn't realize what he doesn't know. That's the scary part.
Polls always lag a few days, the average will rise again.
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Look at those eyes... She's deranged!
anti-tremor meds help the hands, but mess with the eyes and lead to delusions, hallucinations, and delusions of grandeur.
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Polls always lag a few days, the average will rise again.
6 days ago, he had the birther + reverend + other piles of shit all in 2 days.
6 days later, he is lower than he was that day by 2-3 points.
So you're right. And I'll be the FIRST to admit if he surges following the debate. I just can't seem to get any getbigger to agree that today, trump is lower than he was 5-6 days ago. Cause he is. Nothing earth shattering, still gaining ground, but perhaps momentum cooling. This board is all about predictions and analysis so we predict better next time.
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6 days ago, he had the birther + reverend + other piles of shit all in 2 days.
6 days later, he is lower than he was that day by 2-3 points.
So you're right. And I'll be the FIRST to admit if he surges following the debate. I just can't seem to get any getbigger to agree that today, trump is lower than he was 5-6 days ago. Cause he is. Nothing earth shattering, still gaining ground, but perhaps momentum cooling. This board is all about predictions and analysis so we predict better next time.
The only thing I'm pointing out is your averagea poll and how it's the worst one out there yet you cling to it like gospel. All the other averages polls I quoted have him around -2, easily within all MoE
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Monday will change everything. hiary either flushes him and regains lead, or she has seizures and DNC bounces her. I still don't see a path where this nation picks a dude that immature and insecure. And on man, he is both (don't take this as a clinton endorse - she's dog shit liar and sick too). but man oh man, is trump immature and reckless and, well, doesn't really understand many of the global political things and doesn't realize what he doesn't know. That's the scary part.
The debate is going to be terrible for Hillary and it won't be because she will collapse....at least I think she won't.....she still might.
Rather it will be an odd little twitch here and a subtle little glazed look there which will have you rewinding the dvr to "see if that's really what you saw"
This is off the heels of a week where cops are being assaulted in the street and we have some radical islamic maniac blowing shit up in New York.
Hillary will make excuses for both and Trump will confront it head on.
He has been studying for the debate for a few weeks now and is rolling with a more laid back tone(for him at least)
I would be shocked if Hillary comes out better in this first debate. She will be relegated to the tired, played out "old White Liberal in power pandering to minorities to maintain power for her own self interests" routine.
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The debate is going to be terrible for Hillary and it won't be because she will collapse....at least I think she won't.....she still might.
Rather it will be an odd little twitch here and a subtle little glazed look there which will have you rewinding the dvr to "see if that's really what you saw"
This is off the heels of a week where cops are being assaulted in the street and we have some radical islamic maniac blowing shit up in New York.
Hillary will make excuses for both and Trump will confront it head on.
He has been studying for the debate for a few weeks now and is rolling with a more laid back tone(for him at least)
I would be shocked if Hillary comes out better in this first debate. She will be relegated to the tired, played out "old White Liberal in power pandering to minorities to maintain power for her own self interests" routine.
I think she is going to have a problem, because she will likely be pumped with drugs that help suppress her cough and keep her alert. I can see her being either loopy or hyper.
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I think she is going to have a problem, because she will likely be pumped with drugs that help suppress her cough and keep her alert. I can see her being either loopy or hyper.
It's going to very, very intriguing.
I just can't see how she goes through this entire thing without showing SOME sign of a old woman in serious medical trouble.
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It's going to very, very intriguing.
I just can't see how she goes through this entire thing without showing SOME sign of a old woman in serious medical trouble.
agreed. I don't think she'll be able to stand that long, no matter how many drugs. Swaying, twitching, something will show.
I do think she would have a plan B in place - if visible tremors happened and she was completely exposed for it - I think she has a canned response of "i have some nerve damage" or something, so her supporters would immediately shrug it off.
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She dropped 19 points with millennials in a month. Young people read alternative news. Young people knows what an old lady looks like when she's having seizures. Young people see her fall at the debate, she will never get them back.
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agreed. I don't think she'll be able to stand that long, no matter how many drugs. Swaying, twitching, something will show.
I do think she would have a plan B in place - if visible tremors happened and she was completely exposed for it - I think she has a canned response of "i have some nerve damage" or something, so her supporters would immediately shrug it off.
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She dropped 19 points with millennials in a month. Young people read alternative news. Young people knows what an old lady looks like when she's having seizures. Young people see her fall at the debate, she will never get them back.
She's got the 240 locked up solid though . ;) :D ;D
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She's got the 240 locked up solid though . ;) :D ;D
I don't think I want to vote for anyone in the race. Each day it makes more and more sense. Just sit out the presidential.
Trump is an immature ass. He's so proud of his plans, his integrity, his experience... and really, he's shit. Absolutely. He is a liberal, he is a blowhard, and he's already been in one twitter war with the mexican leader, merkel, scotland, the prince in middle east.
clinton is evil, the other 2 incompetent. None of them are worth a vote.
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It's going to very, very intriguing.
I just can't see how she goes through this entire thing without showing SOME sign of a old woman in serious medical trouble.
Yeah, although medical science has some pretty potent stuff and she has the best money can buy.
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I don't think I want to vote for anyone in the race. Each day it makes more and more sense. Just sit out the presidential.
Trump is an immature ass. He's so proud of his plans, his integrity, his experience... and really, he's shit. Absolutely. He is a liberal, he is a blowhard, and he's already been in one twitter war with the mexican leader, merkel, scotland, the prince in middle east.
clinton is evil, the other 2 incompetent. None of them are worth a vote.
to me - its also a fun factor. I know what ill get w Granny clinton - corruption, scandal, physcial collapses, hospice, siezures, bill banging 15 yo, chelsea stealing the china, etc.
With Trump it will be fun to see what happens.
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Fox News Poll: Trump tops Clinton in battlegrounds Nevada, N. Carolina, Ohio
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/21/fox-news-poll-trump-tops-clinton-in-battlegrounds-nevada-n-carolina-ohio.html
Hillary Clinton took the lead in five key battleground states following the first presidential debate, giving her a solid boost with just over five weeks until Election Day, according to a poll released Thursday.
Voters in the five states — Colorado, Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Virginia — also declared Clinton the winner of the much-anticipated slugfest with Donald Trump, according to Public Policy Polling.
Trump peaked.
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Hillary Clinton took the lead in five key battleground states following the first presidential debate, giving her a solid boost with just over five weeks until Election Day, according to a poll released Thursday.
Voters in the five states — Colorado, Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Virginia — also declared Clinton the winner of the much-anticipated slugfest with Donald Trump, according to Public Policy Polling.
Trump peaked.
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Trump is almost back up +6 in the LA Times poll today. It's a footrace!
"So Hillary supporters don't participate in online polls, never attend her rallies, won't buy her book — but they'll totally vote on 11/8?"
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Trump is almost back up +6 in the LA Times poll today. It's a footrace!
LA Times has officially become the rah-rah Trump poll now.