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Title: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: obsidian on September 23, 2016, 10:59:34 PM
Some comparisons...

Not sure if these are scaled perfect. I was going by the Mr. O logos behind them. However when looking at the diameter of their number tags Phil's appear larger than Dallas' and I am pretty sure they should be the same since these tags are standardized. So maybe Dallas should be scaled up somewhat in some shots. Perhaps the lens settings were different or the photographer was closer or further away for some of the shots. Or Phil was standing closer to the edge of the stage  ;D
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: obsidian on September 23, 2016, 11:01:22 PM
A few more...
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: obsidian on September 23, 2016, 11:02:43 PM
Last ones ...
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Moontrane on September 23, 2016, 11:16:21 PM
DM looked really good.  He needs to build a back without growing his gut.
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Nether Animal on September 23, 2016, 11:22:49 PM
Man that back... I just don't see it improving. Hell, the kid deadlifts 800-something pounds, if it was going to respond it would have by now..
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: obsidian on September 23, 2016, 11:24:56 PM
Man that back... I just don't see it improving. Hell, the kid deadlifts 800-something pounds, if it was going to respond it would have by now..
He does have a better xmas tree than Phil. But yes I agree he needs to get more thickness to it. His width is there but needs more detail. His lower back is fine.
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Rusty Trombone on September 23, 2016, 11:29:24 PM
Awesome delts on Dallas!
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: obsidian on September 23, 2016, 11:40:18 PM
Man that back... I just don't see it improving. Hell, the kid deadlifts 800-something pounds, if it was going to respond it would have by now..
He is definitely busting his balls training it. His traps also can come up some.

I saw a video recently of him doing barbell rows (Yates style) with 4 plates and made it look easy. Can't find it. Here are some other ones:



Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: obsidian on September 23, 2016, 11:45:45 PM
Very informative thread here below - goes into nutrition and training details.

http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php/151741-Go-Time!-McCarver-s-2016-Olympia-Prep-Starts-NOW! (http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php/151741-Go-Time!-McCarver-s-2016-Olympia-Prep-Starts-NOW!)
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: sancho ed on September 23, 2016, 11:50:00 PM
Hey cutlers back wasn't so great up until the 2001 olympia, and he was almost 30. Dallas still has time, and trains super hard.
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: SuperTed on September 23, 2016, 11:56:00 PM
Abs are a weakness and lacks Heath's crispness but has a more Herculean physique for sure.
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: obsidian on September 24, 2016, 12:16:58 AM
These have been resized so the tags are the same height. I think Phil was standing closer to the camera for sure.
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: denarii on September 24, 2016, 12:22:35 AM
dallas is getting owned in every pose
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: obsidian on September 24, 2016, 12:34:20 AM
dallas is getting owned in every pose
Not this one - lol! Just too narrow!
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: oldschoolfan on September 24, 2016, 12:55:04 AM
not an expert here, but i think dallas should focus on brining in more detail , he has the size, hes strong as ox and probably smells like one to !

something was wrong with his gut it looked really weird, 
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Bosch on September 24, 2016, 12:58:16 AM
These have been resized so the tags are the same height. I think Phil was standing closer to the camera for sure.

Did the same with Roelly and then levelled the pics by ground level, so this must be pretty much direct comparison. The difference in background because perspective.
On stage I think they weren't compared at all. Seems like it's much safer for judges to compare Cheath with small Dexter (frame-wise) and always smooth Rhoden instead of the likes of McCarver and Winklaar. So this goes at Olympia after Olympia and this is how the champ is born.
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: mass243 on September 24, 2016, 12:59:26 AM
Dallas lookin' small. Arms lack fulness esp. compared to Phil.
And poor abs.
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Azzaro on September 24, 2016, 03:21:32 AM
That awkward moment when Roelly's grimacing face is more handsome than the smiling guy next to him
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: TRIX on September 24, 2016, 05:28:18 AM
Match the letter sizes up in the background for better scale
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Nirvana on September 24, 2016, 07:02:49 AM
not an expert here, but i think dallas should focus on brining in more detail , he has the size, hes strong as ox and probably smells like one to !

something was wrong with his gut it looked really weird, 
x2 looks fat next to Phil. Also his protan looks awful, looks tyedye  green.
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Stephano on September 24, 2016, 07:18:12 AM
x2 looks fat next to Phil. Also his protan looks awful, looks tyedye  green.

Dallas just looks like shit in general.  Worst midsection on stage, the weakest back this side of Gary Strydom, and "glazed donut" conditioning.
All hype.  He's big, but he's a terrible bodybuilder.  A misshapen collection of bodyparts.

I'm all for white bodybuilders, though.  I think that Lentarowicz looked really good -- good conditioning.  Justin Compton is also better than Dallas, but should have come in sharper.


Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Simple Simon on September 24, 2016, 07:34:15 AM
McCarvers body looks tired and washed up, he cat hit condition because hes taking way too many drugs.
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Jizmo on September 24, 2016, 08:56:01 AM
Did the same with Roelly and then levelled the pics by ground level, so this must be pretty much direct comparison. The difference in background because perspective.
On stage I think they weren't compared at all. Seems like it's much safer for judges to compare Cheath with small Dexter (frame-wise) and always smooth Rhoden instead of the likes of McCarver and Winklaar. So this goes at Olympia after Olympia and this is how the champ is born.
roelly was fucking robbed.
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 24, 2016, 01:14:55 PM
His ab wall is already splitting apart. Not good...

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=617214.0;attach=690838;image)
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Ronnie Rep on September 24, 2016, 01:21:13 PM
A few more...
Dallas needs a lot more work on his back to be in the top 6 at the O.
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: denarii on September 24, 2016, 01:22:06 PM
His ab wall is already splitting apart. Not good...

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=617214.0;attach=690838;image)

if you look at his lats and arms they are imbalanced. i have this problem as well. its to do with differing leg length leading to distorted posture. hardly the material of the worlds best bodybuilder...
Title: Re: Virtual Posedown: Phil Heath vs Dallas McCarver at 2016 Mr. Olympia
Post by: Rambone on September 24, 2016, 10:38:35 PM
His ab wall is already splitting apart. Not good...

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=617214.0;attach=690838;image)

What's your prognosis, doc? Palumboism? Lefflerism!? Sending a preemptive PIP to the deserving 8th place finisher.