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Torn it leading to the '82 Olympia. Pretty nasty tear, ruined his career because his arms were nothing special to begin with
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his legs ruined it.
guy obviously missed out on the proportion/balanced physique bit
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Makes my arm hurt just looking at that. I wonder if he tried to get it fixed/reattached? Doesn't seem like he did.
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doing dumbell flys as I recall.
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Makes my arm hurt just looking at that. I wonder if he tried to get it fixed/reattached? Doesn't seem like he did.
He got it fixed after the contest and ended up guest posing at 83 olympia
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:)
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Torn it leading to the '82 Olympia. Pretty nasty tear, ruined his career because his arms were nothing special to begin with
You must have some great arms...
I wish mine looked as nothing special.
;)
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those 3 homos are leaning to the side to create the illusion of having lats
would get crushed in 2016 olympia
golden age my foot
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You must have some great arms...
I wish mine looked as nothing special.
;)
::)
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Oh I forgot this is Getbig
And you have 24+inch arms.
:o
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Re-attach immediately.
That's what I had done with my quad tear august 7th.
Still a long road ahead, but on the right track.
Don't hesitate: muscletendon tear -> hopital + surgery the same day. Don't let them talk you out of it. Prognosis drops each day.
says Dr Dutch
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Re-attach immediately.
That's what I had done with my quad tear august 7th.
Still a long road ahead, but on the right track.
Don't hesitate: muscletendon tear -> hopital + surgery the same day. Don't let them talk you out of it. Prognosis drops each day.
says Dr Dutch
Also possible if you tear it in the middle instead of tearing it off the tendon?
An old BB buddy I spoke to recently said he tore his pec in the middle of the muscle and they could not re-attach it. So now it is a bit deformed.
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Makes my arm hurt just looking at that. I wonder if he tried to get it fixed/reattached? Doesn't seem like he did.
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CORRECT, he just kept on delaying the surgery (I believe he was in denial) thinking he wouldn't be able to do the contest...
In the end, delaying it so long shortened his biceps and ruined his balance for good...
Lou Ferrigno had the same injury, got it fixed right away...
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I had my left bicep reattached last Oct and it looks great.
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Sewing muscle is akin to sewing butter
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Sewing muscle is akin to sewing butter
It is only gay if you want it to be.
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Re-attach immediately.
That's what I had done with my quad tear august 7th.
Still a long road ahead, but on the right track.
Don't hesitate: muscletendon tear -> hopital + surgery the same day. Don't let them talk you out of it. Prognosis drops each day.
says Dr Dutch
How long does something like that take to heal?
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Sewing muscle is akin to sewing butter
It is only butter if you want it to be
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He still looks better than top 6 at this years Mr. O.
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Re-attach immediately.
That's what I had done with my quad tear august 7th.
Still a long road ahead, but on the right track.
Don't hesitate: muscletendon tear -> hopital + surgery the same day. Don't let them talk you out of it. Prognosis drops each day.
says Dr Dutch
Best of luck Dr. Dutch. Sorry to hear of your injury.
Regards,
USA
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CORRECT, he just kept on delaying the surgery (I believe he was in denial) thinking he wouldn't be able to do the contest...
In the end, delaying it so long shortened his biceps and ruined his balance for good...
Lou Ferrigno had the same injury, got it fixed right away...
I had my left bicep reattached last Oct and it looks great.
I'm sure it must have been discussed many times before,but ,then, what was the deal with Dorian's bicep?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=617296.0;attach=690941;image)
Looks like Tom injected some fillings in his tore biceps.
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Also possible if you tear it in the middle instead of tearing it off the tendon?
An old BB buddy I spoke to recently said he tore his pec in the middle of the muscle and they could not re-attach it. So now it is a bit deformed.
Tear in the middle is always a partial tear. I never heard of a complete tear through the muscle tissue. Could happen maybe in a car accident or something, when it's being cut through by a piece of metal. Then it's over and done for that muscle, you can't stich muscle tissue.
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Tear in the middle is always a partial tear. I never heard of a complete tear through the muscle tissue. Could happen maybe in a car accident or something, when it's being cut through by a piece of metal. Then it's over and done for that muscle, you can't stich muscle tissue.
You are right. It was a partial tear. So they do not operate if the tear is partial, just let it heal?
But in most cases it will end up deformed, right?
(I am not asking this because I believe for a second that you are a real doc, just so you know ;D )
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Dorianesque
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Torn it leading to the '82 Olympia. Pretty nasty tear, ruined his career because his arms were nothing special to begin with
He was still way better than Dickerson, as was pretty much everyone that night. Tom should have won it in 81 and Casey should have won it in 82.
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Re-attach immediately.
That's what I had done with my quad tear august 7th.
Still a long road ahead, but on the right track.
Don't hesitate: muscletendon tear -> hopital + surgery the same day. Don't let them talk you out of it. Prognosis drops each day.
says Dr Dutch
I tore my lower left abdominis rectus 2 months ago and I never had surgery. I've been healing up pretty good.
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He still looks better than top 6 at this years Mr. O.
This
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a good interview :
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You are right. It was a partial tear. So they do not operate if the tear is partial, just let it heal?
But in most cases it will end up deformed, right?
(I am not asking this because I believe for a second that you are a real doc, just so you know ;D )
Part of the muscle tissue will become atrofied (is that an English word?) plus there will be some scar tissue. But yes, usually it won't fill up again. :-\
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"Atrophied," Doc.
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"Atrophied," Doc.
a doctor that cant spell, its common knowledge they cant write but spelling should matter
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I'm sure it must have been discussed many times before,but ,then, what was the deal with Dorian's bicep?
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He tore it as well, doing reverse-grip bent over rows for his back... stubbornly didn't have it re-attached (like Platz) and KEPT training for the Olympia.
He only had it fixed AFTER the contest!!
*** SEE THE GAP IN THE ARM ***
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Jay Cutler like conditioning (2007). Should've won.
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a doctor that cant spell, its common knowledge they cant write but spelling should matter
English is not his first language. Dutch is, hence his name.
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a good interview :
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Great interview indeed ...
but why the Interviewer has to pull the Dr.Doom dress code" even out of the gym ?
WOOSHHHH PATHETIC
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He tore it as well, doing reverse-grip bent over rows for his back... stubbornly didn't have it re-attached (like Platz) and KEPT training for the Olympia.
He only had it fixed AFTER the contest!!
*** SEE THE GAP IN THE ARM ***
he NEVER had it reattached....where the fuck do you get your info???
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he NEVER had it reattached....where the fuck do you get your info???
https://www.thesun.co.uk/
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Great interview indeed ...
but why the Interviewer has to pull the Dr.Doom dress code" even out of the gym ?
WOOSHHHH PATHETIC
better than gay ass shorts platz is wearing
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Great interview indeed ...
but why the Interviewer has to pull the Dr.Doom dress code" even out of the gym ?
WOOSHHHH PATHETIC
It is just entertainment brah.
Generation French Fries.
At least Tom knows how to dress.
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better than gay ass shorts platz is wearing
At least Tom is sitting under the sun, by the pool ..
Doctor Doom look alike is just a copy cat clown with not personality
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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I had my left bicep reattached last Oct and it looks great.
Damn. How painful was recovery?
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You can see his right arm is way smaller but he did his best to try and hide it.
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horrible look to get bitches
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those 3 homos are leaning to the side to create the illusion of having lats
would get crushed in 2016 olympia
golden age my foot
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Looks pretty impressive to me!!
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Yates tore the muscle, no surgery.
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those 3 homos are leaning to the side to create the illusion of having lats
would get crushed in 2016 olympia
golden age my foot
At least they were men instead of pitiful internet nerds with 18" biceps, spilling their agony in these forums. They are the last generation of bodybuilders which weren't insulin abusers, they build those body's with oral hormones, and that is the main reason for the fact, that hey live longer than the present day bodybuilders or juicing wannabes like you ;D
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At least they were men instead of pitiful internet nerds with 18" biceps, spilling their agony in these forums. They are the last generation of bodybuilders which weren't insulin abusers, they build those body's with oral hormones, and that is the main reason for the fact, that hey live longer than the present day bodybuilders or juicing wannabes like you ;D
dont give a damn about that bottom heavy manlet tom platz
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dont give a damn about that bottom heavy manlet tom platz
Last time I spoke to him He didn't Even know who you are - Let alone care about you being a Twink.
;)
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dont give a damn about that bottom heavy manlet tom platz
What exactly is the difference between hasbeen an wannabe ? He has been somebody in this sport, you never will be anything because you are just an arrogant wannabe ;D
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Platz and Dorian appear to both have distal tears which is less common than proximal tears. I met with Tom a few years back and he said his torn arm is stronger than his non repaired arm. Ironically I was recovering from my own proximal bicep reattachment at the time. He encouraged me saying it would heal strong and it has. Problem is I picked the wrong surgeon. I was going to go to Cleveland clinic but chose a closer location to Pittsburgh. The guy I saw I think didn't do these routinely. I still think he attached to too low. My proximal end tore. Also it's a misconception that it needs reattached right away. That's what I always used to think. It will atrophy like any muscle will that's not being used but the surgeon in Cleveland clinic said he had find them almost a year after they ripped off the bone. You are simply reattaching the tendon to the bone. I have no studies on waiting as opposed to not waiting but that's what he told me.
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why do you morons expect me to respect these midgets
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why do you morons expect me to respect these midgets
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Ronnie's ex is hot as fuck in your avy...
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Ronnie's ex is hot as fuck in your avy...
looks like she was sporting a hairpiece
looks suspect
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a good interview :
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i like this guys burka. Where can I get one?
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Tom Platz has probably one of the most under-rated physiques in the history of the sport. Pretty much complete from top to bottom, front to back.
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those 3 homos are leaning to the side to create the illusion of having lats
would get crushed in 2016 olympia
golden age my foot
it was the golden age because people actually wanted to look like them unlike the chemical experiments of today
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it was the golden age because people actually wanted to look like them unlike the chemical experiments of today
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Superb rebuttal, sir!
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Pretty much complete from top to bottom, front to back.
A completely unaesthetic pile of shit. blocky, shit proportions... fat thighs, weak arms.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/8a/3b/0e/8a3b0e4c86d9a5c9c05beb76ba0ccf40.jpg)
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good hair, tho
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Platz's thigh development was ahead of its time. What is that attributable too? Better genetics than his peers? Different drug routine? Training? Something else?
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Platz's thigh development was ahead of its time. What is that attributable too? Better genetics than his peers? Different drug routine? Training? Something else?
He had great hair too, as well as superb thighs.
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Platz's thigh development was ahead of its time. What is that attributable too? Better genetics than his peers? Different drug routine? Training? Something else?
In Platz's case I'd say training, he definitely was on another level of intensity.
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A completely unaesthetic pile of shit. blocky, shit proportions... fat thighs, weak arms.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/8a/3b/0e/8a3b0e4c86d9a5c9c05beb76ba0ccf40.jpg)
Fat thighs? Just the fuck up newbie troll.
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it was the golden age because people actually wanted to look like them unlike the chemical experiments of today
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no straight man ever wanted to look like platz
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no straight man ever wanted to look like platz
more so than the guys today, yes
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To all the Platz haters :-*
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:-*
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^^^^^^^^^
Thanks - Some great pics of Tom.
One of my all time great physiques.
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^^^^^^^^^
Thanks - Some great pics of Tom.
One of my all time great physiques.
Mine too. Mine too. He was fucking money in 81 and should have won the show. His back was dense and cut.his chest was full. His abs were cut and his arms had filled out a lot. He was the best Tom had ever been or would ever be again. Crisp, cut and large.
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Can u imagine watching this dopey looking fuk waddle around a supermarket on those fat thighs? lol... knocking shit over, frightening children... most absurd 'bodybuilder' ever.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/24/0a/c7/240ac7692845b6e3a02eab6302092fcb.jpg)
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Mine too. Mine too. He was fucking money in 81 and should have won the show. His back was dense and cut.his chest was full. His abs were cut and his arms had filled out a lot. He was the best Tom had ever been or would ever be again. Crisp, cut and large.
Yes totally agree.
Clearly cheated out of that Mr.O title.
I think he may of been in the wrong era.
Platz's physique seems to be either you like him or you hate him
no middle ground.
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Can u imagine watching this dopey looking fuk waddle around a supermarket on those fat thighs? lol... knocking shit over, frightening children... most absurd 'bodybuilder' ever.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/24/0a/c7/240ac7692845b6e3a02eab6302092fcb.jpg)
Take it you definitely are not a Platz fan- ha
only thing i will say is there are plenty of very absurd 'bodybuilders' around
now with ridiculous amounts of oil in body parts & enormous pregnant stomachs.
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(https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Mfde830c029f7687f53b1f7a04535040ao0&pid=15.1&P=0&w=231&h=157)
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Mine too. Mine too. He was fucking money in 81 and should have won the show. His back was dense and cut.his chest was full. His abs were cut and his arms had filled out a lot. He was the best Tom had ever been or would ever be again. Crisp, cut and large.
Too bad Padilla was more complete.
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Too bad Padilla was more complete.
Too bad Padilla was a lot smaller
And the Biggest Too Bad is that Neither of them Won in 81.
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I remember reading about this when it happened. Platz waz trying to outdo his 81 shape which was phenomenal. He was training like a man possessed. be was known for his intensity and was in incredible shape a few weeks before the show tore his biceps. didn't want to waste all the effort he put into prepping for that show and decided to go through with it. only later admitting he should have gotten it fixed immediately and skipped the show. later on like 85, 86, the bicep had healed quite nicely but his career was ready on the downside by then.
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Re-attach immediately.
That's what I had done with my quad tear august 7th.
Still a long road ahead, but on the right track.
Don't hesitate: muscletendon tear -> hopital + surgery the same day. Don't let them talk you out of it. Prognosis drops each day.
says Dr Dutch
You are correct. The longer you wait to reattach a tendon the greater the odds it can't be fixed.
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You are right. It was a partial tear. So they do not operate if the tear is partial, just let it heal?
But in most cases it will end up deformed, right?
(I am not asking this because I believe for a second that you are a real doc, just so you know ;D )
Not a doctor. Yes you can have a partial tendon tear that needs to be repaired or a complete tear. You can also have a muscle tear that is not something that can be repaired. Usually when you talk about a muscle rupture it's the muscle ripping off the bone by a torn tendon.
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Platz and Dorian appear to both have distal tears which is less common than proximal tears. I met with Tom a few years back and he said his torn arm is stronger than his non repaired arm. Ironically I was recovering from my own proximal bicep reattachment at the time. He encouraged me saying it would heal strong and it has. Problem is I picked the wrong surgeon. I was going to go to Cleveland clinic but chose a closer location to Pittsburgh. The guy I saw I think didn't do these routinely. I still think he attached to too low. My proximal end tore. Also it's a misconception that it needs reattached right away. That's what I always used to think. It will atrophy like any muscle will that's not being used but the surgeon in Cleveland clinic said he had find them almost a year after they ripped off the bone. You are simply reattaching the tendon to the bone. I have no studies on waiting as opposed to not waiting but that's what he told me.
That's not true. If you tear a bicep off distally by ripping the tendon off the bone if it's done within a few days they will sew it to a metal anchor. Since the tendon tear is fresh the tendon will grow back into the bone where it was freshly torn off. If it's done many weeks later many times they have to use a cadaver tendon and the odds of it reattaching to bone diminishes. What some surgeons are talking about is repairing for non athletic use at a later date. They will sew it to an anchor. It will never be naturally attached anymore. That repair can fail with time because it's not a naturally attached tendon. I wouldn't want to deadlift a weight with a bicep attached to to an anchor three years ago that was done 8 months after the initial injury.
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te bicep had healed quite nicely
Why then, when he did his '90s comeback, was his right arm still way down in size and visibly shorter bicep attachment like Dorian?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=617296.0;attach=696603;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=617296.0;attach=696604;image)
And here's the '84 O. Tom is in good shape here and does a really good job at hiding his weaker arm through the poses, but it is very obvious that he is favoring it badly. The few poses where he has to hit both arms at once you can see the huge size difference.
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his legs ruined it.
guy obviously missed out on the proportion/balanced physique bit
his legs made him
if his legs were 50% less and his upper body 50% more he would be a medicore name etc
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Why didn't he have the biceps reattached?
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Some tears can not be fixed. He had a really bad one like Dorian. I think it depends if it is a full tear or a partial. A partial you just reattach but if its a full tear youre fucked.
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If you recall, Platz biceps were weak until the Mexico universe. Then they suddenly appeared...
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His upper body was way ahead of his legs originally
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Why then, when he did his '90s comeback, was his right arm still way down in size and visibly shorter bicep attachment like Dorian?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=617296.0;attach=696603;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=617296.0;attach=696604;image)
And here's the '84 O. Tom is in good shape here and does a really good job at hiding his weaker arm through the poses, but it is very obvious that he is favoring it badly. The few poses where he has to hit both arms at once you can see the huge size difference.
it's relative. we're talking about an injury, a bad muscle tear. of course there was obvious imbalance and yes the injured arm was down in size. He had a bad biceps tear of course there's going to be differences. As far as muscle tears go he had a pretty bad one and compared to what it looked like in 82 it healed rather well. compare with Johnny fuller pec tear.
platz arm looked better in 85 and 86. Although he got in shape in the 90's I don't know if id call it a comeback, it's not like he got in competition shape and stepped on stage to enter a contest.
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old timer otto atco got a lot of mileage out of a torn bicep.
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it's relative. we're talking about an injury, a bad muscle tear. of course there was obvious imbalance and yes the injured arm was down in size. He had a bad biceps tear of course there's going to be differences. As far as muscle tears go he had a pretty bad one and compared to what it looked like in 82 it healed rather well. compare with Johnny fuller pec tear.
platz arm looked better in 85 and 86. Although he got in shape in the 90's I don't know if id call it a comeback, it's not like he got in competition shape and stepped on stage to enter a contest.
How did he tear his biceps? Do you know on which exercise?
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How did he tear his biceps? Do you know on which exercise?
Doing dumbell flyes IIRC
Though not 100% sure.
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Doing dumbell flyes IIRC
Though not 100% sure.
Yes, it was dumbbell flyes. He was doing partial reps at the end of the set and training to failure.