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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 03, 2016, 03:38:12 PM
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Damn. Just blew the bricks off. Not at a place to do a copy and paste but he is sending it out to everyone. This is not going to end well
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I continue to receive questions asking if I am part of Prime Nutrition.
The answer is unequivocally no. I am not associated with them in any way, shape, or form.
For those of you who supported me and bought their products, thank you from the bottom of my heart. Unfortunately, I have never received 1 penny of the residual income I was promised for the delivery of IntraMD (which became Prime's flagship product) as a formulator. There were other major compensation issues between Prime and myself as well, but due to legal reasons I can't get into those.
There is a much bigger issue here that needs to be addressed though.
What is most disappointing, is that I was recently warned about the products with my name on them; that they likely did not have the ingredients (nor the doses) that were in the formulas I gave to Prime. My word is my bond, and I do not put my name on anything unless I believe in it. I know what it's like to manage a tight budget, and the last thing I want is for men and women to throw away their hard earned dollars on something that does not meet label claims, or worse, contain none of the listed ingredients as advertised in the products.
I wanted to know if this was true, so I spent a few thousand dollars of MY OWN money to have the products tested for 2 ingredients, for starters - Teacrine, and Hydromax. The testing was done by one of the most reputable labs in the US. On the first test we had a container of IntraMD EAA sent to the lab that was purchased from the Vitamin Shoppe. The results of the first test were well below label claim for Hydromax. This was the only ingredient I had tested due to expense. I then had a second test done on IntraMD EAA that was sent directly to the lab from Amazon (where it was purchased), to confirm and verify the first set of tests that were performed. I had hydromax tested again, and added teacrine to this test as well. What you see attached are the result's of the 2nd test. Needless to say it was another substandard result that validated the first.
- NO teacrine was found in the product.
- 44% of label claim for Hydromax was found.
These findings are a betrayal of trust that I gave to Prime and is not something I take lightly.
The manufacturer that made this product for Prime is DuraCap labs. The owners of this company were part owners in Prime until just a few days ago.
Many of you have voiced complaints over the last few months, but felt as if you couldn't really do anything about it - well I can. I will stand up for you and for what's right.
This is not a "gut feeling" or me lashing out. This is not a smear campaign. This is pure and simple fact confirmed by rigorous scientific testing that will hold up in court.
I believe that if I tested for the more expensive ingredients such as the branch cyclic dextrin in IntraMD, they would fail to meet label claim as well.
So there are the facts, plain and simple.
This industry is full of people taking advantage of others due to out of control greed. Think long and hard about who you support and do business with. I hope you, the customers are made whole with this information.
On a side note, the brand new majority owner in Prime is a man of integrity and has fought for our rights (he fought against protein spiking), and I believe he is the right man to clean this up.
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Thanks for putting it up. Seems as though some people have some explaining to do about this. I'm not pleased that I put my endorsement on a phony product.
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My advice to everybody is eat food and forget about snake oil supplements because nature is not going to lie about the amount of protein in beef the amount of carbs in yam and the vitamins in fruits and vegetables.
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Thanks.
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My advice to everybody is eat food and forget about snake oil supplements because nature is not going to lie about the amount of protein in beef the amount of carbs in yam and the vitamins in fruits and vegetables.
Well protein powder is one thing, but yeah that's as far as I go nowadays
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Thanks for putting it up. Seems as though some people have some explaining to do about this. I'm not pleased that I put my endorsement on a phony product.
A plethora of angry replies directed at Prime already and so far it's been shared over 150 times.
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Scamming in the supplement industry?
STOP THE PRESSES!!!
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Well protein powder is one thing, but yeah that's as far as I go nowadays
Well if you are going to buy protein powder be careful if it has this artificial sweeteners because they have been shown to cause cancer, aspartame,acesulfame potassium, sucralose, and neotame
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Yes, because having the correct amount of those fancy ingredients in that product would have made a any difference at all.
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Well if you are going to buy protein powder be careful if it has this artificial sweeteners because they have been shown to cause cancer, aspartame,acesulfame potassium, sucralose, and neotame
Poison^10.
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Never would have guessed that getting in business with a bunch of low lifes and criminals would turn out bad
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Thanks for putting it up. Seems as though some people have some explaining to do about this. I'm not pleased that I put my endorsement on a phony product.
thats what I look for supplements that have Goodrums endorsement! NOT...
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Lol at anyone who still takes and uses these bullshit snake oil crap. The old prohormones and certain lifestyle/vitamin supplements (from LifeExtension) are the only ones worth a damn.
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Nothing thank you. :D
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I continue to receive questions asking if I am part of Prime Nutrition.
The answer is unequivocally no. I am not associated with them in any way, shape, or form.
For those of you who supported me and bought their products, thank you from the bottom of my heart. Unfortunately, I have never received 1 penny of the residual income I was promised for the delivery of IntraMD (which became Prime's flagship product) as a formulator. There were other major compensation issues between Prime and myself as well, but due to legal reasons I can't get into those.
There is a much bigger issue here that needs to be addressed though.
What is most disappointing, is that I was recently warned about the products with my name on them; that they likely did not have the ingredients (nor the doses) that were in the formulas I gave to Prime. My word is my bond, and I do not put my name on anything unless I believe in it. I know what it's like to manage a tight budget, and the last thing I want is for men and women to throw away their hard earned dollars on something that does not meet label claims, or worse, contain none of the listed ingredients as advertised in the products.
I wanted to know if this was true, so I spent a few thousand dollars of MY OWN money to have the products tested for 2 ingredients, for starters - Teacrine, and Hydromax. The testing was done by one of the most reputable labs in the US. On the first test we had a container of IntraMD EAA sent to the lab that was purchased from the Vitamin Shoppe. The results of the first test were well below label claim for Hydromax. This was the only ingredient I had tested due to expense. I then had a second test done on IntraMD EAA that was sent directly to the lab from Amazon (where it was purchased), to confirm and verify the first set of tests that were performed. I had hydromax tested again, and added teacrine to this test as well. What you see attached are the result's of the 2nd test. Needless to say it was another substandard result that validated the first.
- NO teacrine was found in the product.
- 44% of label claim for Hydromax was found.
These findings are a betrayal of trust that I gave to Prime and is not something I take lightly.
The manufacturer that made this product for Prime is DuraCap labs. The owners of this company were part owners in Prime until just a few days ago.
Many of you have voiced complaints over the last few months, but felt as if you couldn't really do anything about it - well I can. I will stand up for you and for what's right.
This is not a "gut feeling" or me lashing out. This is not a smear campaign. This is pure and simple fact confirmed by rigorous scientific testing that will hold up in court.
I believe that if I tested for the more expensive ingredients such as the branch cyclic dextrin in IntraMD, they would fail to meet label claim as well.
So there are the facts, plain and simple.
This industry is full of people taking advantage of others due to out of control greed. Think long and hard about who you support and do business with. I hope you, the customers are made whole with this information.
On a side note, the brand new majority owner in Prime is a man of integrity and has fought for our rights (he fought against protein spiking), and I believe he is the right man to clean this up.
BRB, throwing out all of my blackstone PHs. will be back shortly...
does not suprise me one bit, im actually suprised kids are not testing these pills and powders on the regular with mom and dads money or their own. its pretty easy to send off especially a legal product. its suprising these company heads can sleep one minute at night, i would be to anxious worried that some kid is gonna post lab work showing how bunk it is on some forum. lol this is good!
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Nothing thank you. :D
How about, "Prime Nutrition: The best, or 44% of the best, or nothing..." :D
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(http://www.thebreakingnews.co/themes/tpl2/img/news/3.jpg)
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At least rich admits his sups only have 5% real ingredients. ;)
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Fucking scumbag company
Go fuck your self pj! How soon till u r bankrupt??
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So it was all fucked up but the guy that just took over won't monkey with the fart powder formulation so it's all good now.
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So it was all fucked up but the guy that just took over won't monkey with the fart powder formulation so it's all good now.
correct
This new guy is the best thing since sliced bread!
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My advice to everybody is eat food and forget about snake oil supplements because nature is not going to lie about the amount of protein in beef the amount of carbs in yam and the vitamins in fruits and vegetables.
x2. I have always thought supps were a total waste of money. Sort of like buying Premium Gasoline. ::)
http://www.npr.org/2016/09/23/495198974/fill-it-with-regular-aaa-finds-millions-of-drivers-waste-money-on-premium-gas
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/23/automobiles/dont-waste-money-on-premium-gas-if-your-car-is-made-for-regular.html?_r=0
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It's cheaper to stick to the shit.
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Has nothing to do with Aaron...it appears that the formula was changed and PJ spoke about it on his Beauty and Brawn show about tweeting the formula
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People should stick with tried and true trusted products, such as Levrone Signature Series LevroPump, the Colossal Energy Infused Pre-Workout Formula.
(http://levrosupplements.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/levro_pump.jpg)
Gotta admire your sustained attempt to single-handedly make this a meme... your adequate supply of will-power does not sicken me... 8)
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Has nothing to do with Aaron...it appears that the formula was changed and PJ spoke about it on his Beauty and Brawn show about tweeting the formula
How does anyone know when the formula was changed? It's funny how people distance themselves when controversy erupts.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/supplement-company-of-the-month-prime-nutrition.html
This is a little over a year ago.
"Prime Nutrition is a relative newcomer to the supplement industry, but that hasn't stopped founders Aaron Singerman and P.J. Braun from making a big impact on the market. They've quickly built a reputation as a brand that cuts no corners in quality and is committed to being transparent about ingredients.
This has earned them the support of some big names, most prominently John Meadows, a renowned bodybuilder and bodybuilding coach who formulated Prime's flagship product, Intra-MD."
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I continue to receive questions asking if I am part of Prime Nutrition.
The answer is unequivocally no. I am not associated with them in any way, shape, or form.
For those of you who supported me and bought their products, thank you from the bottom of my heart. Unfortunately, I have never received 1 penny of the residual income I was promised for the delivery of IntraMD (which became Prime's flagship product) as a formulator. There were other major compensation issues between Prime and myself as well, but due to legal reasons I can't get into those.
There is a much bigger issue here that needs to be addressed though.
What is most disappointing, is that I was recently warned about the products with my name on them; that they likely did not have the ingredients (nor the doses) that were in the formulas I gave to Prime. My word is my bond, and I do not put my name on anything unless I believe in it. I know what it's like to manage a tight budget, and the last thing I want is for men and women to throw away their hard earned dollars on something that does not meet label claims, or worse, contain none of the listed ingredients as advertised in the products.
I wanted to know if this was true, so I spent a few thousand dollars of MY OWN money to have the products tested for 2 ingredients, for starters - Teacrine, and Hydromax. The testing was done by one of the most reputable labs in the US. On the first test we had a container of IntraMD EAA sent to the lab that was purchased from the Vitamin Shoppe. The results of the first test were well below label claim for Hydromax. This was the only ingredient I had tested due to expense. I then had a second test done on IntraMD EAA that was sent directly to the lab from Amazon (where it was purchased), to confirm and verify the first set of tests that were performed. I had hydromax tested again, and added teacrine to this test as well. What you see attached are the result's of the 2nd test. Needless to say it was another substandard result that validated the first.
- NO teacrine was found in the product.
- 44% of label claim for Hydromax was found.
These findings are a betrayal of trust that I gave to Prime and is not something I take lightly.
The manufacturer that made this product for Prime is DuraCap labs. The owners of this company were part owners in Prime until just a few days ago.
Many of you have voiced complaints over the last few months, but felt as if you couldn't really do anything about it - well I can. I will stand up for you and for what's right.
This is not a "gut feeling" or me lashing out. This is not a smear campaign. This is pure and simple fact confirmed by rigorous scientific testing that will hold up in court.
I believe that if I tested for the more expensive ingredients such as the branch cyclic dextrin in IntraMD, they would fail to meet label claim as well.
So there are the facts, plain and simple.
This industry is full of people taking advantage of others due to out of control greed. Think long and hard about who you support and do business with. I hope you, the customers are made whole with this information.
On a side note, the brand new majority owner in Prime is a man of integrity and has fought for our rights (he fought against protein spiking), and I believe he is the right man to clean this up.
So who is the new savior?
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Yes, because having the correct amount of those fancy ingredients in that product would have made a any difference at all.
LOL true..they have some effect but its so tiny its not even worth it ..some even will give side effect
just drink the damn eggs and you will get most of what your body needs
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LOL true..they have some effect but its so tiny its not even worth it ..some even will give side effect
just drink the damn eggs and you will get most of what your body needs
X2.
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Thanks for putting it up. Seems as though some people have some explaining to do about this. I'm not pleased that I put my endorsement on a phony product.
Vincenzo, do you think the household name of Caliber Fitness Solutions will be tarnished?
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I can't believe this. The next thing you know, someone will be telling us that Dibencozide and Dessicated liver tablets dont work either.
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Vincenzo, do you think the household name of Caliber Fitness Solutions will be tarnished?
No because I'm planning to shut down Caliber Fitness Solutions at the end of the year
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People should stick with tried and true trusted products, such as Levrone Signature Series LevroPump, the Colossal Energy Infused Pre-Workout Formula.
(http://levrosupplements.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/levro_pump.jpg)
Most best selling supplement in Europe.
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It's cheaper to stick to the shit.
Truth ^
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The manufacturer that made this product for Prime is DuraCap labs. The owners of this company were part owners in Prime until just a few days ago.
DuraCap seems like legit scumbags...
https://blog.priceplow.com/industry-news/duracap-labs-indictment