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Can someone tell me exactly what are the crimes that Hillary Clinton has committed?
1) Benghazi is something that happened to us, not by us. Benghazi was a CIA outpost. What crime did Hillary commit?
2) 33,000 emails.
Clinton had the legal authority to mark emails as private and delete personal emails without agency supervision, whether they were on her private server or on a government server.
Clinton's staff told the contractor managing the private server to delete these personal emails in December 2014. The House Republicans' Benghazi committee didn't order all emails on the private server be preserved until March 2015. 30,000 work related emails were turned over.
FBI Director James Comey has repeatedly said that there’s “no evidence” Clinton’s emails were deleted in an attempt to hide them, and all of the documents released by the FBI’s investigation since then have backed that up that conclusion.
http://www.vox.com/2016/10/10/13222360/trump-emails-clinton
I'm willing to concede that if any other government employee had stored classified material on a private server, they would have lost their security clearance and probably their job. But they would not have been charged with a crime, because no crime was committed.
Feel free to list any other crimes you believe she has committed, but be specific, including exactly what laws were broken.
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Trump is slipping into double-digit territory here. Based upon today's newest polls, the early voting starting, and more tapes on the way, and Ryan/RNC/GOP abandoning him....
Trump supporters may soon realize they're not going to dethrone queen killary using the same email complaints they've used for 2 years, even if they are valid points.
At this point, Trump needs to suddenly appear presidential and wise. Instead, he's starting a twitter war with the GOP speaker of the house, right now, a month before the election.
Really, it's Pence or Hillary at this point. Trump is descending to a point where all the funny memes about flies on hillary's nose in the world aren't going to stop her. President pence is the only hope at this point.
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Can someone tell me exactly what are the crimes that Hillary Clinton has committed?
1) Benghazi is something that happened to us, not by us. Benghazi was a CIA outpost. What crime did Hillary commit?
2) 33,000 emails.
Clinton had the legal authority to mark emails as private and delete personal emails without agency supervision, whether they were on her private server or on a government server.
Clinton's staff told the contractor managing the private server to delete these personal emails in December 2014. The House Republicans' Benghazi committee didn't order all emails on the private server be preserved until March 2015. 30,000 work related emails were turned over.
FBI Director James Comey has repeatedly said that there’s “no evidence” Clinton’s emails were deleted in an attempt to hide them, and all of the documents released by the FBI’s investigation since then have backed that up that conclusion.
http://www.vox.com/2016/10/10/13222360/trump-emails-clinton
I'm willing to concede that if any other government employee had stored classified material on a private server, they would have lost their security clearance and probably their job. But they would not have been charged with a crime, because no crime was committed.
Feel free to list any other crimes you believe she has committed, but be specific, including exactly what laws were broken.
Why does it have to be a crime? Why isn't her extremely poor judgment and dishonesty enough to disqualify her from being president?
In any event, running classified intel off her personal computer was a crime for which anyone not named Hillary Clinton would have been prosecuted. You can find numerous former FBI officials and pundits who disagree with Comey's decision not to recommend charges. If you take off the partisan glasses, it's clear as day.
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Can someone tell me exactly what are the crimes that Hillary Clinton has committed?
1) Benghazi is something that happened to us, not by us. Benghazi was a CIA outpost. What crime did Hillary commit?
Murder of Gaddaffi.
He was maybe not the greatest guy on earth but you don't go around murdering heads of states without international mandate / court.
That doesn't go unanswered.
It's labeled as snackbar-action but quite sure it was direct response to breaching of centuries long tradition of diplomatic impunity.
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Murder of Gaddaffi.
He was maybe not the greatest guy on earth but you don't go around murdering heads of states without international mandate / court.
And how did Clinton commit this crime? Gaddafi was killed by a bayonet up his butt by Libyan forces. Yes the revolution that toppled Gaddafi was helped along by NATO air strikes. But Clinton was not the commander in chief of the US or head of NATO at the time. What crime did Clinton commit?
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Why does it have to be a crime? Why isn't her extremely poor judgment and dishonesty enough to disqualify her from being president?
Trump last night said he would put her in jail if he were elected president. Many of his alt-right supporters say she belongs in jail. The question is for what are the crimes they believe she should be sent to jail. Or do they just believe it is ok to jail your political opponents?
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Trump last night said he would put her in jail if he were elected president. Many of his alt-right supporters say she belongs in jail. The question is what are the crimes they believe she should be sent to jail for. Or do they just believe it is ok to jail your political opponents?
What is "alt-right"?
And I answered your question about her breaking the law by running classified intel off her personal computer. That's what Trump was talking about. He's right.
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Tim, do you claim that Hillary didn't break any laws? Let me ask you that.
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What is "alt-right"?
alt-right is the name used by Trump's base, the Breitbart crowd, the 4chan crowd, they tend to be white nationalist.
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Can someone tell me exactly what are the crimes that Hillary Clinton has committed?
1) Benghazi is something that happened to us, not by us. Benghazi was a CIA outpost. What crime did Hillary commit?
2) 33,000 emails.
Clinton had the legal authority to mark emails as private and delete personal emails without agency supervision, whether they were on her private server or on a government server.
Clinton's staff told the contractor managing the private server to delete these personal emails in December 2014. The House Republicans' Benghazi committee didn't order all emails on the private server be preserved until March 2015. 30,000 work related emails were turned over.
FBI Director James Comey has repeatedly said that there’s “no evidence” Clinton’s emails were deleted in an attempt to hide them, and all of the documents released by the FBI’s investigation since then have backed that up that conclusion.
http://www.vox.com/2016/10/10/13222360/trump-emails-clinton
I'm willing to concede that if any other government employee had stored classified material on a private server, they would have lost their security clearance and probably their job. But they would not have been charged with a crime, because no crime was committed.
Feel free to list any other crimes you believe she has committed, but be specific, including exactly what laws were broken.
Your left extremist rags are the reasons why you're so freaking brainwashed.......
Lets start with lying to congress..
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Now nationalism is permanently attached to white skin color. The one thing to save this country, has been labeled as a racist idea.
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Tim, do you claim that Hillary didn't break any laws? Let me ask you that.
She has never been indicted for a crime, despite dozens (hundreds?) of investigations. The email server was poor judgement, but not a crime, one that her predecessors also made. She did not commit any crimes in Whitewater, Travelgate, etc.
On the other hand, I do think high ranking members of the Bush administration are avoiding traveling to Europe because they risk being arrested and indicted for violations of the Geneva Convention.
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Now nationalism is permanently attached to white skin color. The one thing to save this country has been labeled as a racist idea.
Nationalism is always one race against other races. The definition of race changes. A ryan against non- A ryan almost a century ago. Russian against non-Russians today. In the US there was a time where it was WASP against non-WASP. Now it is a more generic white against non-white.
I see the smf filter changes A ryan to Caucasian
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She has never been indicted for a crime, despite dozens (hundreds?) of investigations. The email server was poor judgement, but not a crime, one that her predecessors also made. She did not commit any crimes in Whitewater, Travelgate, etc.
How so?
On the other hand, I do think high ranking members of the Bush administration are avoiding traveling to Europe because they risk being arrested and indicted for violations of the Geneva Convention.
I know. That entire administration belongs in prison.
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Nationalism is always one race against other races. The definition of race changes. A ryan against non- A ryan. Russian against non-Russians. In the US it was WASP against non-WASP. Now it is a more generic white against non-white.
I see the smf filter changes A ryan to Caucasian
It's not about race. The bad guys dragged race into it.
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It's not about race. The bad guys dragged race into it.
UKIP is about race. Le Pen is about race. Russian nationalism is about race. The alt-right is about race.
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She has never been indicted for a crime, despite dozens (hundreds?) of investigations. The email server was poor judgement, but not a crime, one that her predecessors also made. She did not commit any crimes in Whitewater, Travelgate, etc.
On the other hand, I do think high ranking members of the Bush administration are avoiding traveling to Europe because they risk being arrested and indicted for violations of the Geneva Convention.
Tim, do you get that no one will indict her even though there is a ton of evidence against her? Why do you suppose that is?
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Hillary Clinton admitted to destroying subpoenaed evidence after she was on notice of the existence of the subpoena. That's known as obstruction of justice, as well as destruction of the documents. She also committed the crime of "putting classified information in a non-classified venue. This is the same crime which former CIA head Gen. David Petraeus pleaded guilty to.
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http://observer.com/2016/09/the-fbi-investigation-of-emailgate-was-a-sham/
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UKIP is about race. Le Pen is about race. Russian nationalism is about race. The alt-right is about race.
Nationalism is about a country, and in America that means many races. A patriot is a patriot, and only bad guys try to make it about race... especially the sneaky ones who try to cover their own worthlessness by calling other people "racist", which is what the Hillary campaign is all about.
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alt-right is the name used by Trump's base, the Breitbart crowd, the 4chan crowd, they tend to be white nationalist.
The Left started the hyphenated identity politics.
At some point someone is gonna point out the inconvenient truth that everything you have that's worth a shit was created by white males.
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At some point someone is gonna point out the inconvenient truth that everything you have that's worth a shit was created by white males.
You must not work in high tech.
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Can someone tell me exactly what are the crimes that Hillary Clinton has committed?
Hillary Clinton admitted to destroying subpoenaed evidence after she was on notice of the existence of the subpoena. That's known as obstruction of justice, as well as destruction of the documents. She also committed the crime of "putting classified information in a non-classified venue. This is the same crime which former CIA head Gen. David Petraeus pleaded guilty to.
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Tim, do you get that no one will indict her even though there is a ton of evidence against her? Why do you suppose that is?
Coach do you have such little faith in the US Government? In the FBI? I mean - we're not talking some small sub-committee investigated her... It was the FBI???
Coach - I'm an immigrant, trust me when I say this, I grew up in a corrupt as fuck country, like truly corrupt, like my cousin went in to vote and a secret service member from one of the parties followed him into a booth in order to coerse him to vote for that party.
US has it soooo good, but seems like folks REALLY REALLY don't trust the system.
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Hillary Clinton admitted to destroying subpoenaed evidence after she was on notice of the existence of the subpoena. That's known as obstruction of justice, as well as destruction of the documents. She also committed the crime of "putting classified information in a non-classified venue. This is the same crime which former CIA head Gen. David Petraeus pleaded guilty to.
you keep deleting and reposting this.
where does she admit to destroying subpoenaed evidence after she was on notice of the existence of the subpoena ? The timeline I gave above showed the 33,000 private emails were deleted four months before the Benghazi committee requested them.
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Hillary Clinton admitted to destroying subpoenaed evidence after she was on notice of the existence of the subpoena. That's known as obstruction of justice, as well as destruction of the documents. She also committed the crime of "putting classified information in a non-classified venue. This is the same crime which former CIA head Gen. David Petraeus pleaded guilty to.
you keep deleting and reposting this.
Because you keep avoiding his answer to your question.
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Here is a video showing Trump shitting all over Paula Jones, and saying Hillary would make a great VP or President.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/09/30/this-video-might-make-it-harder-for-trump-to-attack-hillary-over-bills-affairs/?utm_term=.f249b8f6a438
I disagree with trump here.
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Tim, what is your opinion of Bill Clinton coincidentally meeting Loretta Lynch the week before hillary's fbi interview? Do you buy that out of 320 million people and 1000s of airports in the US, Bill Clinton happened to be at the same airport, on the same time/date as his former employee? Do you after that highly unlikely scenario, that he then recognized Loretta Lynch's plane, exited his own and talked about grand children for almost an hour?
Do those seem like the actions of an innocent person?
Are you really going to tell us that you only think a person is guilty only if they are indicted/convicted? Do you think hillary's high political status and connections, such as Loretta Lynch meeting bill a week before her fbi interview, play no bearing in her lack of indictment?
If you buy all of that and your standard for committing a crime is an indictment, then that fella that shot up that gay club committed no crime because he was certainly never indicted/convicted. He didn't even get the right to a fair trial. Maybe he was defending himself against all the assaults of the homosexuals in that club
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Tim, what is your opinion of Bill Clinton coincidentally meeting Loretta Lynch the week before hillary's fbi interview? Do you buy that out of 320 million people and 1000s of airports in the US, Bill Clinton happened to be at the same airport, on the same time/date as his former employee? Do you after that highly unlikely scenario, that he then recognized Loretta Lynch's plane, exited his own and talked about grand children for almost an hour?
Do those seem like the actions of an innocent person?
Are you really going to tell us that you only think a person is guilty only if they are indicted/convicted? Do you think hillary's high political status and connections, such as Loretta Lynch meeting bill a week before her fbi interview, play no bearing in her lack of indictment?
If you buy all of that and your standard for committing a crime is an indictment, then that fella that shot up that gay club committed no crime because he was certainly never indicted/convicted. He didn't even get the right to a fair trial. Maybe he was defending himself against all the assaults of the homosexuals in that club
Hmmm
"Certainly, my meeting with him raises questions and concerns," Lynch acknowledged today. "It has now cast a shadow over how this case may be perceived, no matter how it's resolved. ... [But] it's important to make it clear that that meeting with President Clinton does not have a bearing on how this matter is going to be reviewed, resolved and accepted by me."
She added, however: "I certainly wouldn't do it again."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/attorney-general-loretta-lynch-calls-perfectly-reasonable-question/story?id=40272091
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Hmmm
"Certainly, my meeting with him raises questions and concerns," Lynch acknowledged today. "It has now cast a shadow over how this case may be perceived, no matter how it's resolved. ... [But] it's important to make it clear that that meeting with President Clinton does not have a bearing on how this matter is going to be reviewed, resolved and accepted by me."
She added, however: "I certainly wouldn't do it again."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/attorney-general-loretta-lynch-calls-perfectly-reasonable-question/story?id=40272091
Well, I'm sure that's good enough for tim....
An ethical person would remove herself from the process and appoint an independent prosecutor....as donald trump suggested last night
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Well, I'm sure that's good enough for tim....
An ethical person would remove herself from the process and appoint an independent prosecutor....as donald trump suggested last night
Hmmm
"WASHINGTON — Republican lawmakers pummeled Attorney General Loretta Lynch with questions Tuesday about the Justice Department's decision not to prosecute Hillary Clinton for sending classified information on a private, unsecured email system, but Lynch repeatedly declined to explain the legal basis for the decision."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/07/12/loretta-lynch-bill-clinton-meeting-hillary-clinton-emails/86951794/
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Tim, what is your opinion of Bill Clinton coincidentally meeting Loretta Lynch the week before hillary's fbi interview? Do you buy that out of 320 million people and 1000s of airports in the US, Bill Clinton happened to be at the same airport, on the same time/date as his former employee? Do you after that highly unlikely scenario, that he then recognized Loretta Lynch's plane, exited his own and talked about grand children for almost an hour?
I think it was inappropriate, but that doesn't mean any wrongdoing occurred. It makes no sense as it was so public. If he wanted to influence her decision, there were lots of more private ways he could have. My guess is that he wanted a heads up on was about to happen. Remember, we've had over 30 years of the Clinton's enemies going after them. From Whitewater to today. Also remember it wasn't Lynch's sole decision whether to prosecute or not. Supposedly influencing her would not have been enough.
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The whole left-or-right "conflict" is a lie and nothing but a stage-show at that level. They aren't out to get one another, at all. They're working together, and against us. That's what's happening.
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alt-right is the name used by Trump's base, the Breitbart crowd, the 4chan crowd, they tend to be white nationalist.
Ok. I just looked it up. This is wrong. I know and have talked to a number of "Trump's base" and they don't fall into that category at all. This is just another way of trying to put Trump supporters in the basket of deplorables.
And you are calling the "Breitbart crowd" "white nationalists"? Seriously?
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you keep deleting and reposting this.
where does she admit to destroying subpoenaed evidence after she was on notice of the existence of the subpoena ? The timeline I gave above showed the 33,000 private emails were deleted four months before the Benghazi committee requested them.
Your timeline is wrong. The subpoena was issued on 4 March 2015. Platte River Networks used BleachBit to wipe her server between 25-31 March 2015.
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I think it was inappropriate, but that doesn't mean any wrongdoing occurred. It makes no sense as it was so public. If he wanted to influence her decision, there were lots of more private ways he could have. My guess is that he wanted a heads up on was about to happen. Remember, we've had over 30 years of the Clinton's enemies going after them. From Whitewater to today. Also remember it wasn't Lynch's sole decision whether to prosecute or not. Supposedly influencing her would not have been enough.
Got it. You just proved to me you are a biased liar. It wasn't public at all. In fact, Loretta lynch was shocked when she was asked about it. They had no plans to reveal this meeting, nor did she address the subject matter when she spoke in front of Congress, choosing instead to remain silent to almost every relevant question. Lynch solely made the decision not to prosecute, as she said at the lack of evidence provided from the fbi investigation.
You need to stick to sucking dick and leave the facts to honest people. It was well past inappropriate. As I stated earlier, any ethical person would have removed herself from the position and appointed an independent prosecutor, so the case didn't look tainted
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Tim and Prime are perfect examples of party voters. Know nothing and simply vote because their is a D next to their name.
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Tim and Prime are perfect examples of party voters. Know nothing and simply vote because their is a D next to their name.
They fall right in line...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CucFj-8XYAQJQqj.jpg:large)
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Coach do you have such little faith in the US Government? In the FBI? I mean - we're not talking some small sub-committee investigated her... It was the FBI???
Lmao. The FBI works 100% from the top downward. It takes orders. An agenda exists.
“The FBI was thwarted from interviewing the Saudis we wanted to interview by the White House,” said former FBI agent Mark Rossini, who was involved in the investigation of al Qaeda and the hijackers. The White House “let them off the hook.”
What’s more, Rossini said the bureau was told no subpoenas could be served to produce evidence tying departing Saudi suspects to 9/11. The FBI, in turn, iced local investigations that led back to the Saudis.
Tell me again how we need to "have faith" in the FBI for any reason whatsoever.
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Lmao. The FBI works 100% from the top downward. It takes orders. An agenda exists.
Tell me again how we need to "have faith" in the FBI for any reason whatsoever.
So you are saying the nation's highest law enforcement agency is just a big whoop and... what should exactly happen?
A) Be dismantled?
B) Be prosecuted for not going after Hillary harder?
C) Other (Please elaborate?)
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So you are saying the nation's highest law enforcement agency is just a big whoop and... what should exactly happen?
A) Be dismantled?
B) Be prosecuted for not going after Hillary harder?
C) Other (Please elaborate?)
What did you mean by what you said to Coach? Maybe I misunderstood.
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Your timeline is wrong. The subpoena was issued on 4 March 2015. Platte River Networks used BleachBit to wipe her server between 25-31 March 2015.
Interesting.
Tim?
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What did you mean by what you said to Coach? Maybe I misunderstood.
I'm saying that one can't say the system is rigged and the FBI is corrupt because Hillary didn't end up in Jail and because things didn't go the way they wanted them to.
I'm also saying that maybe I appreciate the correctness of the system here because I grew up in a country where the system truly is rigged.
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I'm saying that one can't say the system is rigged and the FBI is corrupt because Hillary didn't end up in Jail and because things didn't go the way they wanted them to.
There are many reasons to believe the FBI doesn't act as it should, and Hillary's treatment supports that.
I'm also saying that maybe I appreciate the correctness of the system here because I grew up in a country where the system truly is rigged.
I'm sure you wouldn't want us to lower our standards just because Egypt is worse, though.
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There are many reasons to believe the FBI doesn't act as it should, and Hillary's treatment supports that.
I'm sure you wouldn't want us to lower our standards just because Egypt is worse, though.
Can you share those many reasons?
Lets not forget that its not the FBI alone, but its also the State Department, and the Justice Department that have stated Clinton did not commit a crime here.
Are you saying now that they are all in Clinton's pockets??
And no I don't want you to lower your standards, on the contrary, I want you to actually take pride in how good you really have it here!
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Can you share those many reasons?
They took orders to stop investigating Saudis on 911.
Lets not forget that its not the FBI alone, but its also the State Department, and the Justice Department that have stated Clinton did not commit a crime here.
Give me a quote if you will.
Are you saying now that they are all in Clinton's pockets??
I wouldn't know exactly how to put it or say it, without having all the necessary info.
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And no I don't want you to lower your standards, on the contrary, I want you to actually take pride in how good you really have it here!
Would you make that argument for any old place, as long as you could point out somewhere worse?
I don't think so, Ach.
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Can you share those many reasons?
Lets not forget that its not the FBI alone, but its also the State Department, and the Justice Department that have stated Clinton did not commit a crime here.
Are you saying now that they are all in Clinton's pockets??
And no I don't want you to lower your standards, on the contrary, I want you to actually take pride in how good you really have it here!
Perhaps you missed the part where hillary's husband, who is also Loretta Lynch's former boss, met with lynch a week prior to her fbi interview, in private and lied about the details of their meeting.
As the previous poster said, just because you are from a shit hole country doesn't mean we should not strive to be corruption free. It's not good enough to be better than egypt. That's like being the least fat obese person
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Give me a quote if you will.
Justice Department:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/statement-attorney-general-loretta-e-lynch-regarding-state-department-email-investigation
Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch released the following statement today regarding the State Department email investigation:
“Late this afternoon, I met with FBI Director James Comey and career prosecutors and agents who conducted the investigation of Secretary Hillary Clinton’s use of a personal email system during her time as Secretary of State. I received and accepted their unanimous recommendation that the thorough, year-long investigation be closed and that no charges be brought against any individuals within the scope of the investigation.”
State Department:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/state-department-releasing-clinton-emails-today/story?id=42641518
The State Department released 273 pages of Hillary Clinton’s emails today, reigniting a controversy that has haunted her campaign for president since the time she announced she was running more than a year ago.
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State Department officials point out that more than half of the emails released today are near-duplicate copies of emails it has already produced to the public. These officials say the only difference, in some cases, is an additional email at the end of a chain.
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As the previous poster said, just because you are from a shit hole country doesn't mean we should not strive to be corruption free. It's not good enough to be better than egypt. That's like being the least fat obese person
That was not my intention when I said I'm from Egypt.... I 100% agree, what I meant is that WE SHOULD strive to be corruption free... and for the most part we are doing things right....
When I said what happens Egypt, I'm saying, you guys have not seen WHAT TRUE CORRUPTION IS... Your theories and conspiracies here in the US... are just that, theories and conspiracies....
YOu may have heard from someone who heard from someone, etc....
But in Egypt. I actually lived it, my family lived, we've seen it first hand. Thats what I meant.
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Justice Department:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/statement-attorney-general-loretta-e-lynch-regarding-state-department-email-investigation
Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch released the following statement today regarding the State Department email investigation:
“Late this afternoon, I met with FBI Director James Comey and career prosecutors and agents who conducted the investigation of Secretary Hillary Clinton’s use of a personal email system during her time as Secretary of State. I received and accepted their unanimous recommendation that the thorough, year-long investigation be closed and that no charges be brought against any individuals within the scope of the investigation.”
State Department:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/state-department-releasing-clinton-emails-today/story?id=42641518
The State Department released 273 pages of Hillary Clinton’s emails today, reigniting a controversy that has haunted her campaign for president since the time she announced she was running more than a year ago.
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State Department officials point out that more than half of the emails released today are near-duplicate copies of emails it has already produced to the public. These officials say the only difference, in some cases, is an additional email at the end of a chain.
Let me help. The FBI found:
“evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information,” but [Comey] said, “we are expressing to [the] Justice [department] our view that no charges are appropriate in this case.”
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Let me help.
“evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information,” but [Comey] said, “we are expressing to [the] Justice [department] our view that no charges are appropriate in this case.”
Again - so you truly believe that the FBI Director, the highest position in the highest law enforcement agency in a superpower... is going to risk his career, risk corruption charges, etc etc. because of Hillary?
Perhaps you missed the part where hillary's husband, who is also Loretta Lynch's former boss, met with lynch a week prior to her fbi interview, in private and lied about the details of their meeting.
I agree that was absurdly poor judgement.... Lynch has stated she is willing to accept whatever recommendation the FBI director presents her with regarding this dumb move, and nothing was done...
Again... If there was evidence of foul play, why is no one holding Lynch accountable.... is the system broken just broken from every single angle? How does Lynch still have a job? Maybe because there is no evidence against her or Bill or Hillary.
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Again - so you truly believe that the FBI Director, the highest position in the highest law enforcement agency in a superpower... is going to risk his career, risk corruption charges, etc etc. because of Hillary?
I don't know that the risk doesn't operate in the opposite way, actually. When you let someone slide for no apparent non-political reason, that's what's going to occur to people.
I agree that was absurdly poor judgement.... Lynch has stated she is willing to accept whatever recommendation the FBI director presents her with regarding this dumb move, and nothing was done...
Would you give your thoughts about this?
Again... If there was evidence of foul play, why is no one holding Lynch accountable.... is the system broken just broken from every single angle? How does Lynch still have a job? Maybe because there is no evidence against her or Bill or Hillary.
How would you think that should go down? What steps would be required to make it happen?
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Coach do you have such little faith in the US Government? In the FBI? I mean - we're not talking some small sub-committee investigated her... It was the FBI???
Unfortunately I have no faith in almost any agency under this administration. Even with all of the evidence against her nothing is done and she gets off scot free. Anyone else and this would be prison. So no, I have NO faith in this government under Obama. I don't know why they don't go after her and the only thing I can think of at this point is coercion. But let me be clear, I've been saying this long before she decided to run
Coach - I'm an immigrant, trust me when I say this, I grew up in a corrupt as fuck country, like truly corrupt, like my cousin went in to vote and a secret service member from one of the parties followed him into a booth in order to coerse him to vote for that party.
And we don't want the progressive liberals in because if just this. You see (or maybe not) the total deception and corruption that's going on now with this administration and we're heading for exactly the same thing your parents migrated from. Look at the policies they propose, the globalization they love and want, the socialism and Marxism they don't hide anymore. They want us to be like the countries they admire that are economically falling apart affecting their population. It's about power man, not whats best for the country. Do you really think for two seconds these elitists give two shit? Hell no. Also, don't think I'm excusing the GOP in all of this, at this point they're just as bad and are complete enablers. I've personally all but written them off. Go look at the tread I posted earlier about Hillarys tax proposals, just on that alone can you tell me why would anyone in their right mind vote to have money taken away from you?
US has it soooo good, but seems like folks REALLY REALLY don't trust the system.
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We all know that Hillary takes money from Saudi Arabia. Approves weapons deals to Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia had connections to the 9/11 attacks. But did you know...? (Read Highlighted area.) This email is written by H. On Aug 17, 2014 3:50 PM, "H" <hrod17@clintonemail.com> wrote:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3774#efmA7_BDe (https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3774#efmA7_BDe)
So, you are telling me that this woman is going to be capable of defeating ISIS when her Saudi masters are the ones actually funding the destabilization of the Middle East? Should they be held accountable? Yes. Will Hillary do it? Nope...
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you keep deleting and reposting this.
where does she admit to destroying subpoenaed evidence after she was on notice of the existence of the subpoena ? The timeline I gave above showed the 33,000 private emails were deleted four months before the Benghazi committee requested them.
The FBI said her emails were deleted “between March 25-31, 2015″ — three weeks after the subpoena.
Here is the Subpena dated March 4, 2015:
http://benghazi.house.gov/sites/republicans.benghazi.house.gov/files/Kendall.Clinton%20Subpoena%20-%202015.03.04.pdf
Hillary Criminal Clinton is a fraud and a liar.
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Any male voting for hillary is a disgrace and even worse than she is.
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Any male voting for hillary is a disgrace and even worse than she is.
Trump is hitting record lows, and there is no GOTV support now. Ryan is TRYING to sink Trump.
The only hope now is Mike Pence. He'd be an excellent president. SC, do you agree it's probably at the point where either Hillary wins, or Pence wins?
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https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4178 (https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4178)
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Trump is hitting record lows, and there is no GOTV support now. Ryan is TRYING to sink Trump.
The only hope now is Mike Pence. He'd be an excellent president. SC, do you agree it's probably at the point where either Hillary wins, or Pence wins?
I'd rather anyone than Trump but then there is Hillary - so I have to go w Trump. Yes - i prefer Pence all day every day - or Christie, bloombrerg, rubio, whoever - but Trump all there is between us and that disgusting C U N T pos criminal Hillary
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I'd rather anyone than Trump but then there is Hillary - so I have to go w Trump. Yes - i prefer Pence all day every day - or Christie, bloombrerg, rubio, whoever - but Trump all there is between us and that disgusting C U N T pos criminal Hillary
what i'm saying is - Is it starting to dawn on you, given the poll numbers and lack of RNC money and GOTV, that Trump probably isn't going to get 270 EV on election day?
If a loss is inevitable.... WHY NOT let Pence have a chance? The repubs and independents would UNITE around him. He's a strong candidate. Hillary is HATED.
Do you think we're almost at a point where a trump loss is inevitable?
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what i'm saying is - Is it starting to dawn on you, given the poll numbers and lack of RNC money and GOTV, that Trump probably isn't going to get 270 EV on election day?
If a loss is inevitable.... WHY NOT let Pence have a chance? The repubs and independents would UNITE around him. He's a strong candidate. Hillary is HATED.
Do you think we're almost at a point where a trump loss is inevitable?
You are voting for Hillary, just like you voted for Obama, so just STFU already.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/20/us-navy-sailor-jailed-for-taking-photos-of-classified-areas-of-nuclear-submarine?CMP=share_btn_fb
Eat s hit and die Hillary voters.
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Eat s hit and die Hillary voters.
Most liberal shit stains dont give a fukk,,, Hillary could be thrown in jail, and then pardoned by obama the day before the election and they would still vote for the open-borders american hating piece of trash, with 240 at the front of the line.
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Yeah guys, but Hillary is innocent because she hasn't been charged.
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Yeah guys, but Hillary is innocent because she hasn't been charged.
Yep, like any drunk driver who made it home.
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180 , PrimeTampon , GayBay , option FAIL, and BigVAG - totally ok w it
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180 , PrimeTampon , GayBay , option FAIL, and BigVAG - totally ok w it
maybe you missed the many times I offered a solution to STOP hillary, since I truly think that statistically, Trump is out of it.
Pence is a solid conservative, a total professional, who would destroy the evil hillary.
Trump is a lifetime liberal who is waging war on his own party with 4 weeks until election day. I never trusted him. I called him a dem plant in 2011 on getbig, and I believe it more than ever today, as he just posted that repubs are actually worse than hillary.
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maybe you missed the many times I offered a solution to STOP hillary, since I truly think that statistically, Trump is out of it.
Pence is a solid conservative, a total professional, who would destroy the evil hillary.
Trump is a lifetime liberal who is waging war on his own party with 4 weeks until election day. I never trusted him. I called him a dem plant in 2011 on getbig, and I believe it more than ever today, as he just posted that repubs are actually worse than hillary.
I dont trust Trump either - my vote for him is to deny her the presidency
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"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within." --- Cicero
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Unfortunately Killary voters don't care how corrupt she is, they're are voting on three things. 1. They don't like Trump 2. They want "free" 3. she's a woman
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Unfortunately Killary voters don't care how corrupt she is, they're are voting on three things. 1. They don't like Trump 2. They want "free" 3. she's a woman
4. and GB posters - they have a Vagina too
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Unfortunately Killary voters don't care how corrupt she is, they're are voting on three things. 1. They don't like Trump 2. They want "free" 3. she's a woman
Coach,
If we reach a point where Trump is down double digits and doesn't have RNC $, support, or GOTV efforts - and it's clear he is likely to lose -
Would you support a Pence ticket?
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maybe you missed the many times I offered a solution to STOP hillary, since I truly think that statistically, Trump is out of it.
Pence is a solid conservative, a total professional, who would destroy the evil hillary.
Trump is a lifetime liberal who is waging war on his own party with 4 weeks until election day. I never trusted him. I called him a dem plant in 2011 on getbig, and I believe it more than ever today, as he just posted that repubs are actually worse than hillary.
You are a liar and just full of shit as always, as you know damn well you would be shitting all over Pence non stop if he were the Republican nominee, so just S.T.F.U.
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You are a liar and just full of shit as always, as you know damn well you would be shitting all over Pence non stop if he were the Republican nominee, so just S.T.F.U.
Which is why I rarely engage with him anymore. His Socratic lines of questioning are so fucking annoying. Zero integrity.
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Which is why I rarely engage with him anymore. His Socratic questioning is so fucking annoying. Zero integrity.
He is just a liar and nothing more, spends his entire day on liberal websites looking for something he can copy and past back here to trash Trump (or whomever would have been the republican nominee) while at the same time pretending to be a republican and or libertarian.
240 is nothing more than a shit stained liberal douche bag.
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Coach,
If we reach a point where Trump is down double digits and doesn't have RNC $, support, or GOTV efforts - and it's clear he is likely to lose -
Would you support a Pence ticket?
http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/11/man-did-what-hillary-did-with-classified-information-in-jail
Now go get your FNG shine box
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http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/11/man-did-what-hillary-did-with-classified-information-in-jail
Now go get your FNG shine box
Attacking Hilary as a response to everything said about Trump has gotten us to this spot. Hilary is +10 and +11 in two polls today, showing that NBC poll might not be an outlier as was claimed> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
Trump is a democrat plant, and he's escorting hilary to a win - and possibly giving her both house and senate at the same time.
I do'nt say this to kneepad hilary - I say it so repubs will wise up and dump trump and get pence in there, so he can beat hilary's ass. If I was a dem plant, I'd just smile quietly while trump's plan worked. But no, i'm the loudest one saying it. Those who truly want to stop hilary refuse to believe the repub they picked (trump) is a dem all along. Even as he acts like a dem today - he's saying Repubs are worse than hillary now, he has katrina saying don't vote repub down ticket.
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Attacking Hilary as a response to everything said about Trump has gotten us to this spot. Hilary is +10 and +11 in two polls today, showing that NBC poll might not be an outlier as was claimed> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
Trump is a democrat plant, and he's escorting hilary to a win - and possibly giving her both house and senate at the same time.
I do'nt say this to kneepad hilary - I say it so repubs will wise up and dump trump and get pence in there, so he can beat hilary's ass. If I was a dem plant, I'd just smile quietly while trump's plan worked. But no, i'm the loudest one saying it. Those who truly want to stop hilary refuse to believe the repub they picked (trump) is a dem all along. Even as he acts like a dem today - he's saying Repubs are worse than hillary now, he has katrina saying don't vote repub down ticket.
Yesterday she was up +14, no? As far as being a plant, stop with that bullshit already, you sound demented. But I wouldn't be surprised if Killary isn't a Republican plant...lol
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Yesterday she was up +14, no? As far as being a plant, stop with that bullshit already, you sound demented. But I wouldn't be surprised if Killary isn't a Republican plant...lol
she was up 14 with no jill or aleppo in the race, or 11 with them in the race.
You can lol at the Plant idea. But it's looking to be more and more accurate each day.
Shep Smith thinks so, coach.
http://crooksandliars.com/2016/10/shep-smith-trump-trying-lose-give-his-base
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she was up 14 with no jill or aleppo in the race, or 11 with them in the race.
You can lol at the Plant idea. But it's looking to be more and more accurate each day.
Shep Smith thinks so, coach.
http://crooksandliars.com/2016/10/shep-smith-trump-trying-lose-give-his-base
Dude, Besides Megyn Kelly Sheppard Smith is the biggest Trump hater on Fox. There you go again.
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Dude, Besides Megyn Kelly Sheppard Smith is the biggest Trump hater on Fox. There you go again.
What would it take, for you to believe it?
If Hilary wins by 40 states, and Trump blows off the last 2 weeks of campaign season and tells the country don't bother voting for house/senate/governor...
THEN will you believe he was a democrat, planted by the CLintons to ensure they didn't face a strong opponent and give them the congress in the process?
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What would it take, for you to believe it?
If Hilary wins by 40 states, and Trump blows off the last 2 weeks of campaign season and tells the country don't bother voting for house/senate/governor...
THEN will you believe he was a democrat, planted by the CLintons to ensure they didn't face a strong opponent and give them the congress in the process?
Trump had his "out" last week when some were calling for him to end his campaign and he basically said FU. Hillary, the dem party, the repubs, the media, Ryan hes fighting all of them at once and he's still in. Was up by 14 yesterday today 10-11 and the post debate polls aren't even out yet. Doesn't matter. No matter who might have been on the repub ticket now, lost 2008.
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What would it take, for you to believe it?
If Hilary wins by 40 states, and Trump blows off the last 2 weeks of campaign season and tells the country don't bother voting for house/senate/governor...
THEN will you believe he was a democrat, planted by the CLintons to ensure they didn't face a strong opponent and give them the congress in the process?
Which states do you have Clinton losing?
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Was up by 14 yesterday today 10-11 and the post debate polls aren't even out yet.
She was up 14 in the head to head, and 11 in the race with the smaller candidates included. So 10-11 today is right on par. Trump didn't gain points magically overnight.
I think you're underestimating the impact of Trump not having the RNC running his GOTV efforts, as well as what will likely be a shitty sept fundraising month. HE chose not to build those things - inexplicably. Then he starts fights with RNC. Now he has no GOTV effort, which tells us he will lose.
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Which states do you have Clinton losing?
a couple of those diehard red states, who knows. I think Trump keeps 4-6 of them. Alabama, Miss, dakotas, who knows. That streak across the middle of the nation that is red no matter what.
But once the RNC $ and GOTV goes away, things are going to collapse. HE JUST CANCELLED ALL HIS FLORIDA ADS! He 100% cannot win this election without taking florida, and he's not running commercials here?
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240, you should get a job in the media. I'm sure you'd make a lot more money. They could use your brilliant insight!
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"Hillary took it upon herself to review them and delete documents"
Wikileaks ^ | 10/12/2016 | Lindsay Roitman
Posted on 10/12/2016, 2:54:50 PM
> *For my question*, it's basically some variation of [not quite phrased > right yet]: I know when I talk to my friends who are attorneys we are all > struggling with what happened to the emails and aren't satisfied with > answers to date. While we all know of the occasional use of personal email > addresses for business, none of my friends circle can understand how it was > viewed as ok/secure/appropriate to use a private server for secure > documents AND why further Hillary took it upon herself to review them and > delete documents without providing anyone outside her circle a chance to > weigh in. It smacks of acting above the law and it smacks of the type of > thing I've either gotten discovery sanctions for, fired people for, etc.
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FBI, DOJ roiled by Comey, Lynch decision to let Clinton slide by on emails, says insider
Fox News ^ | October 12, 2016 | Malia Zimmerman, Adam Housley
Posted on 10/12/2016, 3:31:46 PM by jazusamo
The decision to let Hillary Clinton off the hook for mishandling classified information has roiled the FBI and Department of Justice, with one person closely involved in the year-long probe telling FoxNews.com that career agents and attorneys on the case unanimously believed the Democratic presidential nominee should have been charged.
The source, who spoke to FoxNews.com on the condition of anonymity, said FBI Director James Comey’s dramatic July 5 announcement that he would not recommend to the Attorney General’s office that the former secretary of state be charged left members of the investigative team dismayed and disgusted. More than 100 FBI agents and analysts worked around the clock with six attorneys from the DOJ’s National Security Division, Counter Espionage Section, to investigate the case.
“No trial level attorney agreed, no agent working the case agreed, with the decision not to prosecute -- it was a top-down decision,” said the source, whose identity and role in the case has been verified by FoxNews.com.
A high-ranking FBI official told Fox News that while it might not have been a unanimous decision, “It was unanimous that we all wanted her [Clinton’s] security clearance yanked.”
“It is safe to say the vast majority felt she should be prosecuted,” the senior FBI official told Fox News. “We were floored while listening to the FBI briefing because Comey laid it all out, and then said ‘but we are doing nothing,’ which made no sense to us.”
Andrew Napolitano, former judge and senior judicial analyst for Fox News Channel, said many law enforcement agents involved with the Clinton email investigation have similar beliefs.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
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Apparently, Hillary was given debate questions in advance. Anyone with integrity wouldn't have accepted them and would've ripped into anyone presenting something so underhanded.
No wonder Fogarty loves Hillary so much. They're both sneaky shits.
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The FBI found “evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information,” but [Comey] said, “we are expressing to [the] Justice [department] our view that no charges are appropriate in this case.”
The real kick to the balls from this one, is that they can slide in the word "potential" due ONLY to the fact it won't be followed through. That's it. Meaning that, yes, she broke the law in an extremely dangerous way -- and was then given a place above the law.
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Kinda cool how accurate this guy was on 4chan. He is what 240 wishes he was... (This was back in early, early july)
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Posted on 10/12/2016, 3:31:46 PM by jazusamo
The decision to let Hillary Clinton off the hook for mishandling classified information has roiled the FBI and Department of Justice, with one person closely involved in the year-long probe telling FoxNews.com that career agents and attorneys on the case unanimously believed the Democratic presidential nominee should have been charged.
Lynch said this:
Late this afternoon, I met with FBI Director James Comey and career prosecutors and agents who conducted the investigation of Secretary Hillary Clinton’s use of a personal email system during her time as Secretary of State. I received and accepted their unanimous recommendation that the thorough, year-long investigation be closed and that no charges be brought against any individuals within the scope of the investigation.”
How many were there (who met with her) and who are they? Just a couple of people and her statement can be correct, except for the fact it is 100% misleading.
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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/441115/hillary-clinton-barack-obama-emails-wikileaks-john-podesta-concern
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EXCLUSIVE: FBI Agents Say Comey ‘Stood In The Way’ Of Clinton Email Investigation
The Daily Caller ^ | October 17th, 2016 | Kerry Picket
Posted on 10/17/2016, 8:09:00 PM by Mariner
FBI agents say the bureau is alarmed over Director James Comey’s decision to not suggest that the Justice Department prosecute Hillary Clinton over her mishandling of classified information.
According to an interview transcript given to The Daily Caller, provided by an intermediary who spoke to two federal agents with the bureau last Friday, agents are frustrated by Comey’s leadership.
“This is a textbook case where a grand jury should have been convened, but was not. That is appalling,” an FBI special agent who has worked public corruption and criminal cases said of the decision. “We talk about it in the office and don’t know how Comey can keep going.”
The agent was also surprised that the bureau did not bother to search Clinton’s house during the investigation.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...
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http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-10-17/officials-cited-pressure-not-to-mark-clinton-e-mails-classified
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What are they afraid of?
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What are they afraid of?
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She sold arms to ISIS in Benghazi - we all know it
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Bump for the seriousness that so few seem to comprehend.