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Title: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Neurotoxin on October 18, 2016, 08:27:49 AM
Just an early warning to GBers who are invested.


-NT
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 18, 2016, 08:32:36 AM
Just an early warning to GBers who are invested.


-NT

yikes - last time you made a post like this  . . . . .  .
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Yamcha on October 18, 2016, 08:36:58 AM
It's overdue.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 18, 2016, 08:37:51 AM
I don't know the extent of a downturn, but, the market is very weak internally. Many of stocks that led the rally have already pulled back to levels that are more than just a correction.

An example is Gilead Sciences. It peaked at about 120 and is now ~75. I can point to many others.

I took a cash position at the beginning of 2016 and haven't regretted it for a second.

The market has been pretty docile for the past few months, IMO, because of uncertainty about the election. After that's done, I'm expecting fireworks.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: TuHolmes on October 18, 2016, 11:41:30 AM
What bubble do you feel is bursting right now?

Anyone can make money if we can offset the pop.

Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Neurotoxin on October 21, 2016, 05:51:53 AM
Critical market support: Dow 17,992.00
S&P: 2,119

 If breached we head much lower.


-NT
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 28, 2016, 07:00:16 AM
This was one of the best performing stocks in the post crisis Bull Market.

Down 25% today:

MCK: Summary for McKesson Corporation Common Sto - Yahoo Finance

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/MCK?p=MCK
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Neurotoxin on October 28, 2016, 01:01:02 PM
 Market continues to hold support while waiting on election results. I anticipate a large selloff if Trump were to be victorious. If Hillary should win, I would expect a short term bounce which will ultimately fail. Either way we will head lower imo.

-NT
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Neurotoxin on November 02, 2016, 11:15:32 AM
Critical market support: Dow 17,992.00
S&P: 2,119

 If breached we head much lower.


-NT
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 02, 2016, 12:37:19 PM
That Fed announcement at 2 took it out. It's been a great month so far. ;)

It did bounce back but the rallies are being launched from lower levels.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Erik C on November 02, 2016, 12:46:26 PM
When Trump is elected, the establishment will tank the stock market, however, it will be the best buying opportunity since 2009, for both me, and the establishment!
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Slapper on November 03, 2016, 07:26:25 PM
Neurotoxin, do you have a sense of the magnitude of the crash?

I don't foresee it being worse than 2007.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Neurotoxin on November 05, 2016, 08:21:20 PM
Just an early warning to GBers who are invested.


-NT

Tick tock ........


-NT

Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: avxo on November 06, 2016, 12:08:44 AM
I'm up +8.18% YTD. Long term nothing beats holding a broad market-based index NLNF fund.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 07, 2016, 06:13:39 PM
Market had a big day on news that the investigation conclusions remained the same.

Those who follow this shit, will remember that the market also had a big rally leading up to the Brexit vote off a Poll which favored "Remain."
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 07, 2016, 08:18:18 PM
Market had a big day on news that the investigation conclusions remained the same.

Those who follow this shit, will remember that the market also had a big rally leading up to the Brexit vote off a Poll which favored "Remain."




This was a perfect day to get out a bit and into some cash.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 08, 2016, 06:11:22 PM
Futures down big

Peso Tanking

Tim Fogarty Spotted

(https://enbloom.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/shutterstock_6126838.jpg)
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 08, 2016, 06:48:27 PM
Trump looking good = Dow futures now down 500 and Nikkei down 3%. Gold up. Wow.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Neurotoxin on November 08, 2016, 06:51:38 PM
Market continues to hold support while waiting on election results. I anticipate a large selloff if Trump were to be victorious. If Hillary should win, I would expect a short term bounce which will ultimately fail. Either way we will head lower imo.

-NT
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 08, 2016, 07:08:30 PM
Except for a little money market stash I got completely out of equities Monday. That was the plan since early this year but Monday was an obvious bounce and too good a time to get out.

My guess was the same. No matter who is elected in 12-18 months major corrections are coming.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: calfzilla on November 09, 2016, 02:03:02 AM
Of course it will crash. Then recover within 6 months like it always does.

Smart people buy when it's down.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Howard on November 09, 2016, 04:12:28 AM
I don't know the extent of a downturn, but, the market is very weak internally. Many of stocks that led the rally have already pulled back to levels that are more than just a correction.

An example is Gilead Sciences. It peaked at about 120 and is now ~75. I can point to many others.

I took a cash position at the beginning of 2016 and haven't regretted it for a second.

The market has been pretty docile for the past few months, IMO, because of uncertainty about the election. After that's done, I'm expecting fireworks.

The market tanked in late 2007 at a tad under 8000 and has been on a steady rebound since , sitting at 18,000 +/-.
I'm in the bond market and not too worried right now.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Yamcha on November 09, 2016, 09:30:43 AM
How are them markets doing?  8)
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Yamcha on November 09, 2016, 10:52:20 AM
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EDJI?p=%5EDJI (https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EDJI?p=%5EDJI)
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Primemuscle on November 09, 2016, 11:09:57 AM
How are them markets doing?  8)

Last I heard, the Dow is up today. The uncertainty of the presidential election causing the Dow to tank ended up being just a momentary blip.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Papper on November 09, 2016, 01:01:24 PM
Last I heard, the Dow is up today. The uncertainty of the presidential election causing the Dow to tank ended up being just a momentary blip.

Just like Brexit.

The markets just reflect people's insecurity and reaction to quick change.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: tonymctones on November 09, 2016, 07:31:31 PM
The market tanked in late 2007 at a tad under 8000 and has been on a steady rebound since , sitting at 18,000 +/-.
I'm in the bond market and not too worried right now.
Ouch...I hope they are short duration, you're going to need itk
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on November 09, 2016, 08:51:25 PM
Market continues to hold support while waiting on election results. I anticipate a large selloff if Trump were to be victorious.

-NT

financials surge after Trump election upset

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/09/us-markets.html
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: avxo on November 09, 2016, 11:24:54 PM
Remember the statement: "We will have so much winning if I get elected that you may get bored with the winning!" It seems like we already started  ;D
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on November 10, 2016, 03:46:58 AM
Remember the statement: "We will have so much winning if I get elected that you may get bored with the winning!" It seems like we already started  ;D

 Winning ;D
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on November 10, 2016, 06:54:40 AM
The day after Donald Trump’s unexpected win in the U.S. presidential election, one of Hillary Clinton’s biggest billionaire supporters had the best day on the stock market of any American tycoon.

A rise in Berkshire Hathaway shares added $1.7 billion to Warren Buffett’s fortune on Wednesday, bringing his total net worth to $68 billion, according to FORBES estimates. That gain plus another $2 billion rise in his fortune between Friday and Tuesday was enough to make Buffett once again the third richest person in the world, behind Microsoft cofounder Bill Gates and Zara founder Amancio Ortega and ahead of Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos, who had unseated Buffett earlier this year.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/katevinton/2016/11/09/trumps-win-meant-billion-dollar-gains-for-warren-buffett-and-losses-for-jeff-bezos/#17e7cfff5e6b


Warren Buffett owes Trump an apology and gratitude.  
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Yamcha on November 10, 2016, 07:00:42 AM
The day after Donald Trump’s unexpected win in the U.S. presidential election, one of Hillary Clinton’s biggest billionaire supporters had the best day on the stock market of any American tycoon.

A rise in Berkshire Hathaway shares added $1.7 billion to Warren Buffett’s fortune on Wednesday, bringing his total net worth to $68 billion, according to FORBES estimates. That gain plus another $2 billion rise in his fortune between Friday and Tuesday was enough to make Buffett once again the third richest person in the world, behind Microsoft cofounder Bill Gates and Zara founder Amancio Ortega and ahead of Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos, who had unseated Buffett earlier this year.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/katevinton/2016/11/09/trumps-win-meant-billion-dollar-gains-for-warren-buffett-and-losses-for-jeff-bezos/#17e7cfff5e6b


Warren Buffett owes Trump an apology and gratitude.  

Maybe Hillary was a Wall St. plant?!  :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2016, 08:43:48 AM
financials surge after Trump election upset

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/09/us-markets.html

Uh oh.  El Profeta is back to keep Neurotoxin aka Mons Venus (who believes in the 9/11 conspiracy theory) honest.  Do not mess with El Profeta.   :)
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on November 10, 2016, 10:38:59 AM
Uh oh.  El Profeta is back to keep Neurotoxin aka Mons Venus (who believes in the 9/11 conspiracy theory) honest.  Do not mess with El Profeta.   :)

LOL   ;D
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Howard on November 10, 2016, 11:09:12 AM
Remember the statement: "We will have so much winning if I get elected that you may get bored with the winning!" It seems like we already started  ;D

Considering that Charlie Sheen used "winning, winning, winning" as his trademark, it doesn't inspire confidence in me LOL
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on November 11, 2016, 05:56:26 AM
Market continues to hold support while waiting on election results. I anticipate a large selloff if Trump were to be victorious.

-NT

The stock market rally continued for a second day after Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton, a reaction few expected.

"The Dow rose 218 points Thursday and closed at a record high for the second day in a row."

http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/10/investing/markets-stocks-donald-trump-rally/index.html

WINNING

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/161108095213-election2016-markets-up-trump-1024x576.jpg)
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Primemuscle on November 11, 2016, 04:43:45 PM
Considering that Charlie Sheen used "winning, winning, winning" as his trademark, it doesn't inspire confidence in me LOL

I'm up for a win. This house remodel gets more expensive by the day.  >:(
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Erik C on November 11, 2016, 06:18:51 PM
Hillary supporter, Warren Buffet saw his portfolio value rise over $5 Billion, since Trump was elected. Buffet is now the 2nd richest person again, moving up several spaces, on the Bloomberg list of richest people.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Yamcha on November 14, 2016, 07:23:15 AM
One Week Later...

(https://i.reddituploads.com/534ba0b86bcf4fef9700ba6875a43443?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=62709f36cde4ab9ca4f182404d72ce31)
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 14, 2016, 09:02:03 AM
The market is exactly where it was four months ago, fact, not opinion. This rally was a whole lotta show and no go.

If the market is set up for a downturn, it's gonna happen regardless of who's in the White House.

The market has done very well during Obama's term. Do you really think this is because Obama is an economic and financial genius? LOL.

Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Erik C on November 14, 2016, 10:54:56 AM
The market is exactly where it was four months ago, fact, not opinion. This rally was a whole lotta show and no go.

If the market is set up for a downturn, it's gonna happen regardless of who's in the White House.

The market has done very well during Obama's term. Do you really think this is because Obama is an economic and financial genius? LOL.

The Dow did well under Obama, that was the show and no go. The much larger Nasdaq hasn't matched earlier highs. Between Obama and Hillary, drugs and biotech took a beating. So did energy stocks. Lower corporate tax rates will bring back the general market, and improve Main Street, as well as Wall Street.

Instead of taxing corporate income from foreign countries, we should be rewarding US based corporations, for bringing more income into the USA, by not taxing such income at all. Then, those corporations wouldn't be hiding that income, quite legally mind you, in foreign tax havens. Trump is proposing tax cuts that will makes some of those reforms possible, much to the benefit of the US economy, and the US markets generally.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: WalterWhite on November 14, 2016, 02:05:28 PM
The market is exactly where it was four months ago, fact, not opinion. This rally was a whole lotta show and no go.

If the market is set up for a downturn, it's gonna happen regardless of who's in the White House.

The market has done very well during Obama's term. Do you really think this is because Obama is an economic and financial genius? LOL.



This has been and is a fed propped market. There is little return to be had outside the market so many conservative investors have jumped in.

Interest rates begin to move up and the market will come down.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 14, 2016, 08:03:53 PM
It's not too difficult to see that the trend will be down for a new president. It's been 8 year cycles for big down periods and certainly no reason to think this time will be different as all the numbers are on shaky fundamentals. The fact remains that wage growth has been stagnant and demand is mostly lower but that has not hit the market yet. Overstaying your welcome at record highs has consequences as it can't be sustained forever.

Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on November 22, 2016, 11:39:07 AM
Market continues to hold support while waiting on election results. I anticipate a large selloff if Trump were to be victorious.

-NT

Stunning! Dow hits new high of 19,000 as Trump rally continues

"The Dow Jones Industrial Average hit a new record high Tuesday morning just above 19,000 as the stunning market rally since the election of Donald Trump continues on Wall Street.."

http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/22/investing/dow-trump-19000-stocks-alltime-highs/index.html

WINNING

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/161108095213-election2016-markets-up-trump-1024x576.jpg)
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Dos Equis on November 22, 2016, 11:46:37 AM
Stunning! Dow hits new high of 19,000 as Trump rally continues

"The Dow Jones Industrial Average hit a new record high Tuesday morning just above 19,000 as the stunning market rally since the election of Donald Trump continues on Wall Street.."

http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/22/investing/dow-trump-19000-stocks-alltime-highs/index.html

WINNING

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/161108095213-election2016-markets-up-trump-1024x576.jpg)

El Profeta bringing the pain.   :)
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on November 22, 2016, 11:50:36 AM
El Profeta bringing the pain.   :)

LOL   ;D
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Slapper on December 10, 2016, 11:15:55 AM
Needless to say... this is going past 20,000 soon.

And then there will be a correction.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Moontrane on December 10, 2016, 07:25:52 PM
Needless to say... this is going past 20,000 soon.

And then there will be a correction.

My 401k is up 8% since the election.  Dizzying.  I'll need to park some in some bond funds before the correction.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: tonymctones on December 11, 2016, 12:04:12 PM
My 401k is up 8% since the election.  Dizzying.  I'll need to park some in some bond funds before the correction.
Don't do that, move to cash if you want out. Interest rates have lead to one of the worst downturns in bonds in years
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on December 19, 2016, 12:49:24 PM
My 401k is up 8% since the election.  Dizzying.  I'll need to park some in some bond funds before the correction.

Why not move it into this fund?  As long as you leave it there for at least seven years, you'll most likely double your money.

Vanguard 500 Index Fund Admiral Shares (VFIAX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0540&FundIntExt=INT
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on December 19, 2016, 12:50:01 PM
Market continues to hold support while waiting on election results. I anticipate a large selloff if Trump were to be victorious.

-NT

Millennials bought leveraged gold ETFs after Trump was elected and got hammered: NYSE trader

Yahoo Finance Video • December 19, 2016

Bloomberg reports they piled into gold ETFs, some with leverage, after the election, expecting Trump to trigger a risk-selloff. The opposite occurred and gold has dropped nearly 15% from the election-night high.
http://finance.yahoo.com/video/millennials-bought-leveraged-gold-etfs-183454148.html


WINNING

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/161108095213-election2016-markets-up-trump-1024x576.jpg)
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Moontrane on December 19, 2016, 01:21:11 PM
Why not move it into this fund?  As long as you leave it there for at least seven years, you'll most likely double your money.

Vanguard 500 Index Fund Admiral Shares (VFIAX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0540&FundIntExt=INT

I'm already balls deep in that very fund.  ;D
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on December 19, 2016, 01:23:38 PM
I'm already balls deep in that very fund.  ;D

Smart getbigger!  If you plan on leaving your balls deep into that index fund for at least seven years, the longer the better, then you have nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on December 20, 2016, 01:19:56 PM
Market continues to hold support while waiting on election results. I anticipate a large selloff if Trump were to be victorious.


Dow Jones roars towards 20,000 mark as US dollar hits 14-year high

20 DECEMBER 2016 • 6:44PM

US stock markets staged a rally yesterday as the so-called 'Trump Bump’ buoyed sentiment among investors, sending the Dow Jones Industrial Average within striking distance of the 20,000 mark - a level it has never surpassed.

The dollar hit a 14-year high against major currencies, as the US economy continues to zoom ahead and following a rise in interest rates last week.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/12/20/dow-jones-roars-towards-20000-mark-us-dollar-hits-14-year-high/

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/business/2016/12/15/trump-large_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bq2oUEflmHZZHjcYuvN_Gr-bVmXC2g6irFbtWDjolSHWg.jpg)
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Dos Equis on December 20, 2016, 01:27:23 PM
Dow Jones roars towards 20,000 mark as US dollar hits 14-year high

20 DECEMBER 2016 • 6:44PM

US stock markets staged a rally yesterday as the so-called 'Trump Bump’ buoyed sentiment among investors, sending the Dow Jones Industrial Average within striking distance of the 20,000 mark - a level it has never surpassed.

The dollar hit a 14-year high against major currencies, as the US economy continues to zoom ahead and following a rise in interest rates last week.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/12/20/dow-jones-roars-towards-20000-mark-us-dollar-hits-14-year-high/

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/business/2016/12/15/trump-large_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bq2oUEflmHZZHjcYuvN_Gr-bVmXC2g6irFbtWDjolSHWg.jpg)

Mons Venus seems to have disappeared.  lol
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on December 20, 2016, 01:32:14 PM
Mons Venus seems to have disappeared.  lol

LOL...this has been a very bad year for Libs.  They got so many things wrong.   ;D
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Dos Equis on December 20, 2016, 02:01:03 PM
LOL...this has been a very bad year for Libs.  They got so many things wrong.   ;D

Yep.  Although a lot of people got it wrong this election.  Me included. 
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on December 20, 2016, 02:55:12 PM
Yep.  Although a lot of people got it wrong this election.  Me included.  


Difference is:  I bet you are glad you were wrong about Hillary winning, if that's what you got wrong.   :)
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Dos Equis on December 20, 2016, 03:26:04 PM
Difference is:  I bet you are glad you were wrong about Hillary winning, if that's what you go wrong.   :)

Oh no doubt.  When this started, I believed she was the favorite.  I thought Trump was a joke at the start of the primary season and that he would get killed if he won the nomination. 

I didn't change my tune till after he won the nomination, when I still thought Clinton would win, but believed Trump had a legit shot. 

One of the lessons in all of this is what hypocrites some liberals can be.  And how we should never listen to Mons Venus and always trust El Profeta.   :D
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on December 20, 2016, 03:39:59 PM
Oh no doubt.  When this started, I believed she was the favorite.  I thought Trump was a joke at the start of the primary season and that he would get killed if he won the nomination. 

I didn't change my tune till after he won the nomination, when I still thought Clinton would win, but believed Trump had a legit shot. 

One of the lessons in all of this is what hypocrites some liberals can be.  And how we should never listen to Mons Venus and always trust El Profeta.   :D

LOL   ;D
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on January 20, 2017, 01:22:48 PM
Market continues to hold support while waiting on election results. I anticipate a large selloff if Trump were to be victorious.


Stocks greet Trump era with a bounce

"Wall Street has kicked off the Trump presidency with a bounce.

The Dow jumped about 95 points on Friday following the swearing in of Donald Trump as America's 45th president."

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/20/investing/stock-market-trump-inauguration-day/index.html


WINNING

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/161108095213-election2016-markets-up-trump-1024x576.jpg)
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Dos Equis on January 20, 2017, 01:44:25 PM
I wonder if the crash will be connected with the release of the Cruz sex tapes? 
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on January 20, 2017, 02:46:31 PM
I wonder if the crash will be connected with the release of the Cruz sex tapes? 

LOL
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on January 26, 2017, 03:41:57 PM
Market continues to hold support while waiting on election results. I anticipate a large selloff if Trump were to be victorious.

Dow closes above 20,000 for first time as Trump orders send stocks flying

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/25/us-markets.html

WINNING

(http://www.mcintyreinthemorning.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/STOCKS-UP-TRUMP.jpg?w=640)
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Dos Equis on January 26, 2017, 05:12:33 PM
lol.  I'm sure Mons Venus will be back to start quoting himself whenever the market dips. 
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: TuHolmes on January 26, 2017, 07:06:43 PM
lol.  I'm sure Mons Venus will be back to start quoting himself whenever the market dips. 

What goes up, must come down and all that I guess.

 :-\
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Erik C on January 26, 2017, 07:37:14 PM
The market will go up until just before the midterm elections in 2018.

Then the globalists will dump everything, and sell short, hoping to save a few globalists' seats in the senate and congress, by scaring the investors.

Nothing to fear, the market will bounce right back right after the elections, and be a real Xmas present, for those who buy back in at lows right before the elections.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on January 27, 2017, 03:34:57 AM
What goes up, must come down and all that I guess.

 :-\

Of course, but that's not really the point here.  Look at the thread title, and look at this:

Market continues to hold support while waiting on election results. I anticipate a large selloff if Trump were to be victorious.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 27, 2017, 07:31:54 AM
Dow at 20k and GDP came in way low today.

What could go wrong when the seasonally revised and glossed over numbers these agencies have been providing get outed as the lies they are?
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Dos Equis on January 27, 2017, 09:22:07 AM
What goes up, must come down and all that I guess.

 :-\

There are always corrections, but the Mons Venus predictions are akin to saying there will be snow in Michigan in December. 
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on January 27, 2017, 10:21:42 AM
There are always corrections, but the Mons Venus predictions are akin to saying there will be snow in Michigan in December

LOL
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Yamcha on January 30, 2017, 01:15:13 PM
Just in case you guys care:

Quote
White House spokesman Sean Spicer on Monday called the executive order a "first step" and said the administration would work with Congress to begin making changes to Dodd-Frank.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: FanBoi on January 30, 2017, 06:30:49 PM
I hope it does crash again: great buying opportunity.  I know GetBiggers are chicken littles just like 95% of the common investor and will sell in a panic.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Yamcha on January 31, 2017, 08:47:05 AM
I hope it does crash again: great buying opportunity.  I know GetBiggers are chicken littles just like 95% of the common investor and will sell in a panic.

That's what I am waiting on.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on January 31, 2017, 09:04:26 AM
I hope it does crash again: great buying opportunity.  I know GetBiggers are chicken littles just like 95% of the common investor and will sell in a panic.

A passive investor, investing in low cost index funds, over a long period of time, has nothing to worry about.  In fact, these investors eventually benefit greatly from a crash.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Dos Equis on January 31, 2017, 09:42:59 AM
A passive investor, investing in low cost index funds, over a long period of time, has nothing to worry about.  In fact, these investors eventually benefit greatly from a crash.

Truth.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 31, 2017, 09:56:46 AM
A passive investor, investing in low cost index funds, over a long period of time, has nothing to worry about.  In fact, these investors eventually benefit greatly from a crash.


Yeah, Chucky Schwab said that in the 80s....but this is a different time. HFT and fudged reports and stock buybacks and seasonally adjusted numbers....and all figures based on infinite growth. They plan on further dollar devaluation so nobody notices the gains are absorbed over time. Lack of interest/return on CDs/savings accounts has a lot of money in the market that shouldn't be IMO. A lot of people are up for a haircut that can't afford it.

If you trust the fake numbers, the corporations, the lawyers, the accountants, the brokers, the govt - all....with your money, then stay in. I'm out and won't go back until valuation gets close to real. I can make more with my capital on my own and don't require a forced savings account, which is what most 401k are. If you can't manage your money then the lack of access saves you from yourself. That's the only nice thing I have to say about the current system, ha.

We are still at all time highs. There is good reason to be cautious and have some liquidity.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on January 31, 2017, 10:22:37 AM

Yeah, Chucky Schwab said that in the 80s....but this is a different time. HFT and fudged reports and stock buybacks and seasonally adjusted numbers....and all figures based on infinite growth. They plan on further dollar devaluation so nobody notices the gains are absorbed over time. Lack of interest/return on CDs/savings accounts has a lot of money in the market that shouldn't be IMO. A lot of people are up for a haircut that can't afford it.

If you trust the fake numbers, the corporations, the lawyers, the accountants, the brokers, the govt - all....with your money, then stay in. I'm out and won't go back until valuation gets close to real. I can make more with my capital on my own and don't require a forced savings account, which is what most 401k are. If you can't manage your money then the lack of access saves you from yourself. That's the only nice thing I have to say about the current system, ha.

We are still at all time highs. There is good reason to be cautious and have some liquidity.

I really hope you're just trolling.  I am not going to debate you on this, not worth it.  If you are not trolling, I hope you wake up, before it's too late for you.

This is for other Getbiggers reading this.

Passive Investing: The Evidence the Fund Management Industry Would Prefer You Not to See




Warren Buffett, letter to Berkshire Hathaway shareholders, 1996
"Most investors, both institutional and individual, will find that the best way
to own common stocks is through an index fund that charges minimal fees."
http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1996.html



Warren Buffett’s 15-Minute Retirement Plan
If Warren Buffett weren't the world's best stock picker, how would he plan for retirement?

Luckily for the rest of us, he's answered this question before. In an annual letter to shareholders, Buffett laid out a retirement plan that would take just minutes to implement. This is the very two-pronged plan he outlined for governing the trust he's leaving behind for his wife:

My advice to the trustee could not be more simple: Put 10% of the cash in short-term government bonds and 90% in a very low-cost S&P 500 index fund. (I suggest Vanguard's. (NASDAQMUTFUND:VFINX)) I believe the trust's long-term results from this policy will be superior to those attained by most investors -- whether pension funds, institutions, or individuals -- who employ high-fee managers.

Buffett suggests the Vanguard S&P 500 index as one of the best funds for investing in U.S. stocks. A good fund for short-term government bonds can be found under the same roof. The Vanguard Short-Term Government Bond Index Fund (NASDAQMUTFUND:VSBSX) should fit investors just fine for this purpose.
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/06/warren-buffetts-15-minute-retirement-plan.aspx

Vanguard 500 Index Fund Admiral Shares (VFIAX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0540&FundIntExt=INT

Vanguard Short-Term Government Bond Index Fund Admiral Shares (VSBSX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=1942&FundIntExt=INT


eBook: If You Can: How Millennials Can Get Rich Slowly
by William J Bernstein
$0.99

http://www.amazon.com/If-You-Can-Millennials-Slowly-ebook/dp/B00JCC5JKI/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1408805650&sr=1-1&keywords=if+you+can

Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund Admiral Shares (VTSAX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0585&FundIntExt=INT

Vanguard Total Bond Market Index Fund Admiral Shares (VBTLX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0584&FundIntExt=INT

Vanguard Total International Stock Index Fund Admiral Shares (VTIAX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0569&FundIntExt=INT
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: FanBoi on January 31, 2017, 01:53:08 PM
I love guys like you.  So does my portfolio.  The fact there are so many of you tin foil hat-wearing chicken littles out there ensures that my decision to embrace the investing philosophy of Jack Bogle will continue to pay great dividends.  Buy more gold!


Yeah, Chucky Schwab said that in the 80s....but this is a different time. HFT and fudged reports and stock buybacks and seasonally adjusted numbers....and all figures based on infinite growth. They plan on further dollar devaluation so nobody notices the gains are absorbed over time. Lack of interest/return on CDs/savings accounts has a lot of money in the market that shouldn't be IMO. A lot of people are up for a haircut that can't afford it.

If you trust the fake numbers, the corporations, the lawyers, the accountants, the brokers, the govt - all....with your money, then stay in. I'm out and won't go back until valuation gets close to real. I can make more with my capital on my own and don't require a forced savings account, which is what most 401k are. If you can't manage your money then the lack of access saves you from yourself. That's the only nice thing I have to say about the current system, ha.

We are still at all time highs. There is good reason to be cautious and have some liquidity.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: calfzilla on October 19, 2017, 03:44:43 PM
I really hope you're just trolling.  I am not going to debate you on this, not worth it.  If you are not trolling, I hope you wake up, before it's too late for you.

This is for other Getbiggers reading this.

Passive Investing: The Evidence the Fund Management Industry Would Prefer You Not to See




Warren Buffett, letter to Berkshire Hathaway shareholders, 1996
"Most investors, both institutional and individual, will find that the best way
to own common stocks is through an index fund that charges minimal fees."
http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1996.html



Warren Buffett’s 15-Minute Retirement Plan
If Warren Buffett weren't the world's best stock picker, how would he plan for retirement?

Luckily for the rest of us, he's answered this question before. In an annual letter to shareholders, Buffett laid out a retirement plan that would take just minutes to implement. This is the very two-pronged plan he outlined for governing the trust he's leaving behind for his wife:

My advice to the trustee could not be more simple: Put 10% of the cash in short-term government bonds and 90% in a very low-cost S&P 500 index fund. (I suggest Vanguard's. (NASDAQMUTFUND:VFINX)) I believe the trust's long-term results from this policy will be superior to those attained by most investors -- whether pension funds, institutions, or individuals -- who employ high-fee managers.

Buffett suggests the Vanguard S&P 500 index as one of the best funds for investing in U.S. stocks. A good fund for short-term government bonds can be found under the same roof. The Vanguard Short-Term Government Bond Index Fund (NASDAQMUTFUND:VSBSX) should fit investors just fine for this purpose.
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/06/warren-buffetts-15-minute-retirement-plan.aspx

Vanguard 500 Index Fund Admiral Shares (VFIAX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0540&FundIntExt=INT

Vanguard Short-Term Government Bond Index Fund Admiral Shares (VSBSX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=1942&FundIntExt=INT


eBook: If You Can: How Millennials Can Get Rich Slowly
by William J Bernstein
$0.99

http://www.amazon.com/If-You-Can-Millennials-Slowly-ebook/dp/B00JCC5JKI/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1408805650&sr=1-1&keywords=if+you+can

Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund Admiral Shares (VTSAX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0585&FundIntExt=INT

Vanguard Total Bond Market Index Fund Admiral Shares (VBTLX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0584&FundIntExt=INT

Vanguard Total International Stock Index Fund Admiral Shares (VTIAX)
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0569&FundIntExt=INT

I'm a big fan of index funds. Own a couple Schwab funds, no buying fees and low management fees.

Excellent choice for someone who doesn't know much about investing.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 20, 2017, 11:02:07 AM
www.cnbc.com


 ;D
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on October 20, 2017, 12:40:00 PM
www.cnbc.com


 ;D

LOL

"Markets are jumping as GE bounces back and hopes rise for tax reform"

(https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2016/07/22/103810089-GettyImages-487193120.720x405.jpg?v=1469192642)
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Dos Equis on October 20, 2017, 01:30:52 PM
LOL

"Markets are jumping as GE bounces back and hopes rise for tax reform"

(https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2016/07/22/103810089-GettyImages-487193120.720x405.jpg?v=1469192642)

What happened to Mons Venus?  El Profeta did you scare him away?    :D
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on October 20, 2017, 02:05:57 PM
What happened to Mons Venus?  El Profeta did you scare him away?    :D

LOL...he's with 240 is Back and BayGBM drowning his sorrows with them.   :)
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Dos Equis on October 20, 2017, 02:14:22 PM
LOL...he's with 240 is Back and BayGBM drowning his sorrows with them.   :)

lol  ;D
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Dos Equis on November 08, 2017, 11:22:58 AM
(http://truthfeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/TRUMP-STOCK-MARKET-009-01-e1500993387233.jpg)

As America approaches the one-year anniversary of the election of Donald Trump, the Dow Jones Industrial Average is on target to book its best annual performance under a first-term president when measured from Election Day.
The Dow is up by around 29 percent since Trump’s November 8 election victory over Hillary Clinton. That’s the best post-election, one-year performance for a first-term president since Franklin Roosevelt’s in 1932.

The Trump stock market easily beats the first years of his recent predecessors. The election of Barack Obama in 2008 was followed by rise of just 1.8 percent. The stock market declined after George W. Bush’s election in 2000.

Stocks declined after the elections of 1980, 1976, and 1968.

The 1960 election of John F. Kennedy was followed by a nearly 20 percent rise in the stock market. George H.W. Bush’s election led to a rise in the Dow of 23.3 percent. Smaller gains followed the elections of 1948 and 1952.

Roosevelt’s rally, which saw the Dow rise by more than 50 percent, has never been surpassed.

Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on November 08, 2017, 11:29:02 AM
 ;D

Market continues to hold support while waiting on election results. I anticipate a large selloff if Trump were to be victorious.
-NT
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Dos Equis on March 27, 2018, 04:27:34 PM
Bump.   ;D
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: Primemuscle on March 28, 2018, 05:25:14 PM
Damn, my investments are down about $2,000 over the past couple months. I'm not a gambler. This makes me nervous.
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: loco on January 22, 2019, 07:20:40 AM
(https://fw-d7-freedomworks-org.s3.amazonaws.com/field/image/1100.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=644157.0;attach=767150;image)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=620698.msg8619951#msg8619951

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=644157.0;attach=769000;image)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=644157.msg9014728#msg9014728


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=644157.0;attach=769160;image)
Title: Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (Part 2)
Post by: IroNat on January 22, 2019, 07:42:21 AM
Damn, my investments are down about $2,000 over the past couple months. I'm not a gambler. This makes me nervous.

Are you being serious?

If you are that nervous you should be in CDs.