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Title: Blackstone Labs - Are they worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: TheGrinch on October 21, 2016, 02:07:20 PM
Da Fuq?

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Fastest growing private companies in the ENTIRE USA #27 is Blackstone??   ???  ???  ???
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Al Doggity on October 21, 2016, 02:18:37 PM
9.5m is the yearly revenue according  to that article. A company's valuation is usually placed at 5-7x depending on a few factors. So, conservatively, based on those numbers, we can say it's a $40 million company.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: BB on October 21, 2016, 02:27:38 PM
For fellows that are in the supplement industry(not named Vince Goodrum), does Blackstone still sell well? I've always assumed that most of the profit in these newer companies was driven by the grey market energy supps and prohormone end. Are they really doing that well now that those areas are getting more governmental scrutiny?  
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: bigmc on October 21, 2016, 02:29:56 PM
9.5m is the yearly revenue according  to that article. A company's valuation is usually placed at 5-7x depending on a few factors. So, conservatively, based on those numbers, we can say it's a $40 million company.

No
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Simple Simon on October 21, 2016, 02:41:26 PM
money laundering of peace.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Grape Ape on October 21, 2016, 02:43:18 PM
9.5m is the yearly revenue according  to that article. A company's valuation is usually placed at 5-7x depending on a few factors. So, conservatively, based on those numbers, we can say it's a $40 million company.

Companies can also be valued of EBITA multipliers, not necessarily revenue.  9.5M with an annual loss over a period of time might not fetch any multiplier.

It depends on the industry.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Simple Simon on October 21, 2016, 02:45:48 PM
I remember three people on the news had come up with a website, it was valued at £40m
When asked what they were going to do with their new found wealth they all said they didnt have a pot to piss in.
The value of a company means nothing, its what someone will pay for it is its worth.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: 8 INCH not biceps on October 21, 2016, 03:04:23 PM
I am worth $10,000 for an hour of sex now is there anybody willing to pay me that amount.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Al Doggity on October 21, 2016, 03:15:23 PM
Companies can also be valued of EBITA multipliers, not necessarily revenue.  9.5M with an annual loss over a period of time might not fetch any multiplier.

It depends on the industry.


It was just a basic post about how the value of the company is not the revenue.  In my previous post, I said depending on a few factors. I don't have the EBITDA info, but I would assume that a fart powder company generating 10mil a year that does a lot of business online is not losing money.

That being said, my previous post was tongue-in-cheek. The list doesn't say how the numbers are compiled, so there's a possibility these numbers are just fake. I also suspect that illegal drugs are part of, if not most of, their business.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: TuHolmes on October 21, 2016, 03:22:12 PM
Unfortunately, at the current rate, their valuation will be negative within a couple of years.

As quick as it cane rise, it can fall.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: King Shizzo on October 21, 2016, 03:27:29 PM
I remember three people on the news had come up with a website, it was valued at £40m
When asked what they were going to do with their new found wealth they all said they didnt have a pot to piss in.
The value of a company means nothing, its what someone will pay for it is its worth.
Which is why Getbig's value is priceless.......

Didn't the Clippers sell for a billion dollars? Ron will be a rich man someday.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Simple Simon on October 21, 2016, 03:28:51 PM
Which is why Getbig's value is priceless.......

Didn't the Clippers sell for a billion dollars? Ron will be a rich man someday.

Yes, a forum with a grand total of 50 posters, most of them with a dozen gimmicks, it must be worth millions
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: light weight baby on October 21, 2016, 03:51:32 PM
Yes, a forum with a grand total of 50 posters, most of them with a dozen gimmicks, it must be worth millions
shizzo is  an even bigger loser than howard
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: King Shizzo on October 21, 2016, 03:59:29 PM
shizzo is  an even bigger loser than howard
Ahem, it is King Shizzo to you.

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Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Grape Ape on October 21, 2016, 05:17:20 PM
It was just a basic post about how the value of the company is not the revenue.  In my previous post, I said depending on a few factors. I don't have the EBITDA info, but I would assume that a fart powder company generating 10mil a year that does a lot of business online is not losing money.

That being said, my previous post was tongue-in-cheek. The list doesn't say how the numbers are compiled, so there's a possibility these numbers are just fake. I also suspect that illegal drugs are part of, if not most of, their business.

And mine was a basic post expanding on your basic post, not necessarily refuting it.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: rocco-x on October 21, 2016, 05:41:25 PM
I am worth $10,000 for an hour of sex now is there anybody willing to pay me that amount.
I have about $23.89...could you spare just 5mnts of your time?
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Al Doggity on October 21, 2016, 06:02:50 PM
And mine was a basic post expanding on your basic post, not necessarily refuting it.
Good work. Carry on.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 21, 2016, 10:12:01 PM
For fellows that are in the supplement industry(not named Vince Goodrum), does Blackstone still sell well? I've always assumed that most of the profit in these newer companies was driven by the grey market energy supps and prohormone end. Are they really doing that well now that those areas are getting more governmental scrutiny?  


The reason Blackstone Labs sold so well has really nothing to do with products.  Everyone and their uncle  sold prohormone.  The key was all about distribution.  Any business could sign up and open a dropship account without having to keep inventory in addition to an aggressive campaign on Amazon  So in a matter of a few weeks, anyone and everyone had an opportunity to sell their products and pocket some cash and ultimately sales poured in where it was pretty easy to bring in 9.5 million in revenue in just one year.

The only problem was that they got greedy, cut off the dropship network with no warning along with any products from being sold on Amazon and put in strict MAP internet pricing so they could get bulk orders from Mom & Pop shops. 


Ultimately, Blackstone Labs is not making as much money as it was before and in fact, its is prob losing money.  The company has 27 employees in all which is way too many at this point and the Mom and Pop shops are pretty much saturated although with the fact that Blackstone is actually undercutting these shops with satellite stores and Google ads.  So no, its now a shell of itself which eventually will be just another brand under Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals.



You're welcome

Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: BB on October 21, 2016, 10:26:50 PM

You're welcome


Thank you Vince, that was a rather evenhanded reply :).
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 21, 2016, 11:31:50 PM
9.5m is the yearly revenue according  to that article. A company's valuation is usually placed at 5-7x depending on a few factors. So, conservatively, based on those numbers, we can say it's a $40 million company.

Wrong
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: BIG DUB on October 21, 2016, 11:49:00 PM
I still can't believe this guy went from a message board nobody to millionaire..

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Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 22, 2016, 06:24:35 AM
Blackstone "Labs"? -   ???

Molecules in the logo... yeah, that's the ticket.   ::)

Douchebag buying expensive cars, houses, watches and flaunting his wealth and taking photos of it all... so cliché.  

His wife has a bun in the oven.  After a few years, she'll eventually divorce him and take half of everything.  

Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Rambone on October 22, 2016, 09:02:42 AM
Blackstone "Labs"? -   ???

Molecules in the logo... yeah, that's the ticket.   ::)

Douchebag buying expensive cars, houses, watches and flaunting his wealth and taking photos of it all... so cliché.  

His wife has a bun in the oven.  After a few years, she'll eventually divorce him and take half of everything.  



They fit in with the cliche Boca Raton douchebag lifestyle with everybody keeping up with the Jones so to speak yet everything is leased out and they're in debt to their eyeballs. It's all about perception of prosperity around here.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 22, 2016, 10:30:44 AM
They fit in with the cliche Boca Raton douchebag lifestyle with everybody keeping up with the Jones so to speak yet everything is leased out and they're in debt to their eyeballs. It's all about perception of prosperity around here.


As I stated before, its easy to simply open up a TRT anti-aging clinic and legally sell steroids.  Florida's laws are very generous to them due to the high amount of elderly people who basically control the state.  With the clinic open in the front, its pretty easy to sell gear to the gym rats in the back room.  That's why all of these people are moving there
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Al Doggity on October 22, 2016, 01:24:25 PM
Wrong

Well the valuation would obviously be higher if google wanted to buy their algorithm for being popular on social media.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Rambone on October 22, 2016, 02:45:50 PM

As I stated before, its easy to simply open up a TRT anti-aging clinic and legally sell steroids.  Florida's laws are very generous to them due to the high amount of elderly people who basically control the state.  With the clinic open in the front, its pretty easy to sell gear to the gym rats in the back room.  That's why all of these people are moving there

Yeah, there's a bunch of clinics in the South FL area. Legal dealers
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs - Are they worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 22, 2016, 02:50:41 PM
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Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Ronnie Rep on October 22, 2016, 03:59:45 PM
Yeah, there's a bunch of clinics in the South FL area. Legal dealers
Yup, Not as many as there used to be. They started cracking down on them, especially the pain clinics.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 22, 2016, 05:30:36 PM
Yup, Not as many as there used to be. They started cracking down on them, especially the pain clinics.


They are but they pop up just as quick because its pretty difficult to prosecute one as its technically a medical facility. 
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Rusty Trombone on October 22, 2016, 08:51:52 PM

As I stated before, its easy to simply open up a TRT anti-aging clinic and legally sell steroids.  Florida's laws are very generous to them due to the high amount of elderly people who basically control the state.  With the clinic open in the front, its pretty easy to sell gear to the gym rats in the back room.  That's why all of these people are moving there
Which steroids can they sell for TRT besides testosterone?
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs - Are they worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: BBFan on October 22, 2016, 09:26:21 PM
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I’ll give you the Blackstone Labs story. Our first year, we did $200,000 in sales. The second year we did $1.5 million, and that was the year before last. Last year we did $6 million, and this year we’ll do over $20 million.

Same as having 150 employees in another "interview".Such a liar.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs - Are they worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Nether Animal on October 23, 2016, 06:16:09 AM
I could understand something like BSN or MuscleTech being worth that, but Blackstone? I've never once seen anybody wearing their apparel or using their products in the gym.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs - Are they worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: bigmc on October 23, 2016, 06:33:17 AM
I could understand something like BSN or MuscleTech being worth that, but Blackstone? I've never once seen anybody wearing their apparel or using their products in the gym.

it all comes down to profitability

depends on their liabilities etc

could be worth fuck all if they are losing money
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs - Are they worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: TheGrinch on October 23, 2016, 12:42:05 PM
I could understand something like BSN or MuscleTech being worth that, but Blackstone? I've never once seen anybody wearing their apparel or using their products in the gym.

thank you..


their freakin' products aren't in every major supplement store to even be close to that 9.5 figure
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 23, 2016, 03:32:16 PM
Which steroids can they sell for TRT besides testosterone?


Well, lets take a look at the favorite one...Envizion Medical.  The good shit starts around 13:09.  Basically they will sell all different hormones, weight loss products, HCG, injectible B-12 and L-carnitine, hair products, even peptides.  


http://www.hormonerestoretampa.com/index.html







And lets not forget this one.  Starts at  10:18

Title: Re: Blackstone Labs - Are they worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: insider on October 24, 2016, 04:25:12 AM
9.5 is small potatoes in the supplement world, good companies are making $100 mil a year
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Rambone on October 24, 2016, 06:00:07 AM
Which steroids can they sell for TRT besides testosterone?

I've seen Deca and var
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs - Are they worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 24, 2016, 08:01:57 AM
9.5 is small potatoes in the supplement world, good companies are making $100 mil a year


I'm sorry, what do you do for a living??? ::)
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs - Are they worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on October 24, 2016, 08:17:14 AM
9.5 is small potatoes in the supplement world, good companies are making $100 mil a year
109% agree-for sure
Black stone is Mickey Mouse company

No one in industry takes them seriously

Dust extreme is a total fail-horrible taste and wimpy compared to countless other ones



Run by a drug addict and his tranny wife
Employing a Down syndrome no talent bodybuilder as their sales man and a fat African American homosexual looney tunes as their online pr affiliate

The company is a train wreck and will be bankrupt soon
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs - Are they worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: King Shizzo on October 24, 2016, 08:27:45 AM
109% agree-for sure
Black stone is Mickey Mouse company

No one in industry takes them seriously

Dust extreme is a total fail-horrible taste and wimpy compared to countless other ones



Run by a drug addict and his tranny wife
Employing a Down syndrome no talent bodybuilder as their sales man and a fat African American homosexual looney tunes as their online pr affiliate

The company is a train wreck and will be bankrupt soon
Why the low blow to Goodrum?
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs - Are they worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: insider on October 24, 2016, 09:53:06 AM

I'm sorry, what do you do for a living??? ::)

I am an insider in the industry and what I said is true. You clearly don't know much about the industry, several companies do in excess of $100 mil per year. Blackstone is small plus I would bet that PJ fluffed those numbers.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs - Are they worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 24, 2016, 04:23:47 PM
I am an insider in the industry and what I said is true. You clearly don't know much about the industry, several companies do in excess of $100 mil per year. Blackstone is small plus I would bet that PJ fluffed those numbers.


I know this industry like the back of your mama
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs - Are they worth 9.5 mil?
Post by: Yamcha on October 25, 2016, 06:01:13 AM

I know this industry like the back of your mama

should have said father. I'd laugh then