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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Darren Avey on October 26, 2016, 05:51:35 AM
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All this shit that we re all capable of 1000lb deadlifts if we HAVE to. Like the woman lifting the car off her kid. You believe all this? I don't. Strength is simply genetic with a bit of training and gear involved. No weak ass woman who watches soap opera all day is lifting no car off no God damn kid!
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you'd be surprised.
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Your strength definitely improves when your adrenaline is high. However, the idea that an average person can magically become super humanly strong in a life or death situation is mostly horseshit.
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Your strength definitely improves when your adrenaline is high. However, I agree that the idea that an average person can magically become super humanly strong in a left or death situation is mostly horseshit.
There's a part of the brain that limits force exerted by muscles. This part of the brain can be switched off. It's a failsafe against injury. So yeah, people are stronger in some situations.
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Yeh but they don't go from being delicate flowers to deadlifting cars in an instant.
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They used that angle in the incredible hulk pilot movie back in the 70's. So that was taken from an apparently true story?
All this shit that we re all capable of 1000lb deadlifts if we HAVE to. Like the woman lifting the car off her kid. You believe all this? I don't. Strength is simply genetic with a bit of training and gear involved. No weak ass woman who watches soap opera all day is lifting no car off no God damn kid!
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There's a part of the brain that limits force exerted by muscles. This part of the brain can be switched off. It's a failsafe against injury. So yeah, people are stronger in some situations.
I agree that people get stronger depending on the situation they are in, but there will still be a limit to how strong they get. An average woman isn't suddenly going to start outlifting world class powerlifters even if her muscles are working to their maximum.
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I've seen this in person. Had this skinny dude who tried to bench 1 plate a side and the bar just dropped, it was hillarious. Gave him an aspirin and told him it was steroids and that in about 5 minutes he'll be stronger. Sure enough he benched the same weight that crashed down on him a few minutes earlier.
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The mind is very powerful so yes I believe the strength is in the mind.Only problem is you have to figure out how to tap into it.
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I'm sure everyone knows a person who is naturally very strong despite never training but also as thick as a divers boot, these people at least partially lack that 'brake' we have limiting our strength, the only time we would use our full strength potential is during a massive electric shock, where muscles contract so hard they break bones and tear from the bone.
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The mind is very powerful so yes I believe the strength is in the mind.Only problem is you have to figure out how to tap into it.
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Like Jedi type shit?
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Like Jedi type shit?
If you don't believe something is possible, then it is very unlikely that you will be able to learn how to do it.
Cases of "little old ladies" lifting cars off of kids, are reported regularly, and have a long history. Spontaneous feats of seemingly impossible strength are well documented.
Training to get volitional control over those forces, have been the basis for classical martial arts training, even "mystery schools" in ancient Greece, and right up to today in very secret "Super Soldier" training programs, in many countries.
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Crazy people or those with certain types of mental diseases are known to be dangerously strong. As someone mentioned, this has also been observed in people with very low intelligence, their brains probably lack that safety valve which helps most people prevent injury.
In life or death situations, this probably can also switch off for an instant and our body can have more strength.
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All BS.
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someone having an epileptic seizure is freakishly strong.
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I went from benching 405 to 500 after watching kai pose
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yet has no calves
(http://www.srichinmoybio.co.uk/uploaded_images/Sri-Chinmoy-airplane-771794.jpg)
Calf raise of the gods.
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(http://www.srichinmoybio.co.uk/uploaded_images/Sri-Chinmoy-airplane-771794.jpg)
Calf raise of the gods.
That's not Geo
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i didn't see a curl ???
How dare you, check out his monstrous forearm strength.
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Adrenaline is a hell of a drug. When I was around 15 me and a couple buddies were starting leaf fires in the woods. The police showed up and we started running. I felt like I was flying I remember jumping over this huge fence like it was absolutely nothing.
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::) Jeez -- what a load of Balonie
Did anyone Take That Skinny Fat Sri Remotely Seriously
Idiot & Fake Guru of Peace.
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When you jumped the fences did it make the sounds that played when Steve Austin used to jump in the 6 million dollar man?
Adrenaline is a hell of a drug. When I was around 15 me and a couple buddies were starting leaf fires in the woods. The police showed up and we started running. I felt like I was flying I remember jumping over this huge fence like it was absolutely nothing.
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::) Jeez -- what a load of Balonie
Did anyone Take That Skinny Fat Sri Remotely Seriously
Idiot & Fake Guru of Peace.
But he lifted 7063 and 3/4! Those 3/4 made all the difference!
Seems like this codger managed to fool even Bill Pearl (or maybe Bill did it for the money).
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... except these stories of non-lifters lifting cars and such are well-reported. Remember that the physics of lifting a car is very different than doing a deadlift or something. In these stories, people are just lifting the car a few inches or so to save someone pinned underneath. Hydraulics provide a lot of momentum, and the person pumped full of adrenaline lifts the rest. Once she gets it up high enough, she has to hold it long enough for the person to get out. Static strength is much stronger than concentric strength. In a lot of these cases, people tear their muscles and tendons. For the most part, strength IS in the mind. The nervous system has a lot more to do with it than muscle size. Human genetics inhibit what their nervous system puts out in normal circumstances, but that limit can also be turned off.
Think of a chimpanzee. It's four feet tall and weighs 100 lbs, yet it can lift a thousand pounds without even knowing what it's. A chimp's muscular system and nervous system are basically the same as a human's with one exception, namely how well it can control nerve firings to contract its muscles. Humans evolved to inhibit the intensity of these firings so as to gain precise control over their muscles and develop fine motor skills. We don't need raw strength because we have raw intelligence that allows us to build machines stronger than any animal.
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i didn't see a curl ???
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Interesting, what sort of lift is that?
... except these stories of non-lifters lifting cars and such are well-reported. Remember that the physics of lifting a car is very different than doing a deadlift or something. In these stories, people are just lifting the car a few inches or so to save someone pinned underneath. Hydraulics provide a lot of momentum, and the person pumped full of adrenaline lifts the rest. Once she gets it up high enough, she has to hold it long enough for the person to get out. Static strength is much stronger than concentric strength. In a lot of these cases, people tear their muscles and tendons. For the most part, strength IS in the mind. The nervous system has a lot more to do with it than muscle size. Human genetics inhibit what their nervous system puts out in normal circumstances, but that limit can also be turned off.
Think of a chimpanzee. It's four feet tall and weighs 100 lbs, yet it can lift a thousand pounds without even knowing what it's. A chimp's muscular system and nervous system are basically the same as a human's with one exception, namely how well it can control nerve firings to contract its muscles. Humans evolved to inhibit the intensity of these firings so as to gain precise control over their muscles and develop fine motor skills. We don't need raw strength because we have raw intelligence that allows us to build machines stronger than any animal.
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It's only BS, if you want it to be BS.
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It's only BS, if you want it to be BS.
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Wasn't there a study/experiment/stunt where the researchers hid the amount of weight being used from the lifter(s) who then exceeded PB (s) unknowingly? Maybe I read it in one of the columns written by that Starr guy from Johns Hopkins that wrote articles for MuscleMag...
(Or do I need to lay off the mushrooms...?)
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Wasn't there a study/experiment/stunt where the researchers hid the amount of weight being used from the lifter(s) who then exceeded PB (s) unknowingly? Maybe I read it in one of the columns written by that Starr guy from Johns Hopkins that wrote articles for MuscleMag...
(Or do I need to lay off the mushrooms...?)
I think I first heard of that as being a method the russians used as far back as Vasily Alexeev's (spelling?) hey day in treaining, where they'd load up a bar with some odd combos of smaller plates so that the lifter wouldn't know what precise amount they were lifting on that lift, and weren't obviously given the luxury of enough time to stand there and mentally catalogue the plates and do the math, and often as not (obviously they went for small increments over PBs) they'd get the lift, and then be told what it was which would also be a good morale booster.
I've 'heard' of the stories of people lifting cars off toddlers (almost always the mother) but I've never actually seen one that is even 'reasonably' documented, it's always a third hand (probably 100 and 3rd) account. Even if it was better documented, I'd suggest there's also just as many stories (with witnesses) of alien encounters. It's BS.
No doubt an adrenaline spike and a loved one in trouble will enable a potentially greater output than a sedate gym lift setting, but there's still limits to human physiology, you won't get someone who struggles to lift their kid into the bath suddenly lifting a car off of the same kid, life and death situation or not.
As for sri chimnoy, or however it is spelt, all that was impressive about his 'feats' were the rube goldberg devices to support the weights and the dodgy idea of the way it was measured (iirc something like any movement of the bar itself near the centre and that was considered to be supporting the whole weight, in reality he probably supported maybe a few hundred pounds on his back at the peak of the 'lift). It's no surprise he didn't enter any powerlifting meets and knock off an 'easy' 2000 lb squat or anything, which would have been piss easy if he was even remotely capable of his ludicrous lift claims. Despite that being blatantly obvious he had more numerous and seemingly far more unshakeable nuthuggers than jason blaha :)
The comparison to chimps isn't super valid, imo, because we evolved differently (possibly a common ancestor but a drastically different path). If we (as a species) evolved as anything it was more toward endurance as far as physical stuff goes, and as far as being predators, we didn't get to the top of the food chain through physical prowess, it was our brain power that allowed us to hunt collaboratively, make tools/weapons and utilize them that set us apart. and for the love of god (heh) I hope this doesn't push this into a tangent about evolution.
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I think I first heard of that as being a method the russians used as far back as Vasily Alexeev's (spelling?) hey day in treaining, where they'd load up a bar with some odd combos of smaller plates so that the lifter wouldn't know what precise amount they were lifting on that lift, and weren't obviously given the luxury of enough time to stand there and mentally catalogue the plates and do the math, and often as not (obviously they went for small increments over PBs) they'd get the lift, and then be told what it was which would also be a good morale booster.
The comparison to chimps isn't super valid, imo, because we evolved differently (possibly a common ancestor but a drastically different path). If we (as a species) evolved as anything it was more toward endurance as far as physical stuff goes, and as far as being predators, we didn't get to the top of the food chain through physical prowess, it was our brain power that allowed us to hunt collaboratively, make tools/weapons and utilize them that set us apart. and for the love of god (heh) I hope this doesn't push this into a tangent about evolution.
Yes, that sounds familiar and may even have been referenced in that article I'm thinking about - thanks
As for the chimp/gorilla thing, my only observation here is the vegetarian angle - I wonder how come they can weigh 400lbs and be that strong eating greens (Yeh, I know some chimps trap and eat monkeys, but on the whole they are veggies, no?...)
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All this shit that we re all capable of 1000lb deadlifts if we HAVE to. Like the woman lifting the car off her kid. You believe all this? I don't. Strength is simply genetic with a bit of training and gear involved. No weak ass woman who watches soap opera all day is lifting no car off no God damn kid!
Most females couldn't BUT I know some BMC approved babes who squat a semi -trunk .
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As for the chimp/gorilla thing, my only observation here is the vegetarian angle - I wonder how come they can weigh 400lbs and be that strong eating greens (Yeh, I know some chimps trap and eat monkeys, but on the whole they are veggies, no?...)
They also eat a lot of insects. Probably a lot more than the "experts" think. That would be something they have in common with our hominid ancestors. Plenty of fast available essential amino acids, essential fatty acids, vitamins and minerals in insects. Way way more than in carbs.
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They also eat a lot of insects. Probably a lot more than the "experts" think. That would be something they have in common with our hominid ancestors. Plenty of fast available essential amino acids, essential fatty acids, vitamins and minerals in insects. Way way more than in carbs.
I see. So what you're saying is they instinctively know how to hit their anabolic window*.... hmmm very intredasting... After ducks and frogs, perhaps insect protein should be Iron Mike's next big venture+...
*Just kidding - I did not know that about the insects, thanks. But that sounds like a lot of insects!
+ In before someone points out to me that you can already buy insect protein on the interwebz from China or something...
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Yes, that sounds familiar and may even have been referenced in that article I'm thinking about - thanks
As for the chimp/gorilla thing, my only observation here is the vegetarian angle - I wonder how come they can weigh 400lbs and be that strong eating greens (Yeh, I know some chimps trap and eat monkeys, but on the whole they are veggies, no?...)
I'm not a vegan guy, but yeah. A rhino can eat nothing but grass. Nature is truly remarkable.
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I see. So what you're saying is they instinctively know how to hit their anabolic window*
*Just kidding - I did not know that about the insects, thanks. But that sounds like a lot of insects!
Find an ant's nest on the ground, or in a tree, and you can eat literally pounds of them, in no time at all.
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+ In before someone points out to me that you can already buy insect protein on the interwebz from China or something...
Yes - sold as Easyliy Digested Chinese Whey Protien 90%+ :o
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Find an ant's nest on the ground, or in a tree, and you can eat literally pounds of them, in no time at all.
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I don't watch cartoons.
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I don't watch cartoons.
What, you've never seen Jungle Book? It would have been around when you were younger (and less serious)...