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Title: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2016, 08:57:30 AM
Winners and Losers of the 2016 election. 

Biggest Winners:

Trump for obvious reasons.

Kellyanne Conway.  She was the difference maker IMO. 

All of those who gave the establishment a big middle finger and backed Trump early:  Palin, Guiliani, Sessions, Christi, Dr. Carson, Newt, Lt. Gen Flynn, etc. 

The LA Times poll, which relied on the same group of voters for its poll and, contrary to almost every other polling service, got it right.

IBD.   For the second presidential election in a row, was the most accurate poll before the election. 

Biggest Losers:

The mainstream media.  Abandoned all pretenses of trying to be objective and engaged in the most outrageously biased “reporting” I have ever seen in a presidential campaign. 

Pollsters, including the guy I follow most closely Nate Silver.  They whiffed on Trump.  Twice. 

The plethora of hypocritical liberals who were outraged when Trump refused to say during the last debate that he would support Hillary if she won, who responded to the election by saying “not my president,” protesting, crying, etc.

Clinton, Inc.  A lifetime sham marriage whose goal included a presidential dynasty.  They succeeded in enriching themselves, but failed miserably on their ultimate goal of a Hillary presidency. 

Gloria Allred.  The most irritating woman in America tried to sink Trump with a bimbo eruption and failed.  That makes me smile. 

Feel free to add yours. 
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Skeletor on November 10, 2016, 09:01:12 AM
Kellyanne Conway.  She was the difference maker IMO. 

She definitely made a huge difference in getting Trump's campaign in line.
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on November 10, 2016, 09:33:24 AM
She definitely made a huge difference in getting Trump's campaign in line.

Agree.  Props to him for accepting her advice.
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on November 14, 2016, 04:17:55 PM
Loser:

Romney.  I like him, but talk about a massive fail when trying to sink Trump.
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Walter Sobchak on November 14, 2016, 04:31:21 PM
Obama
Bernie Sanders
CNN
Donna Brazile
Debbie Wasserman-Schultz
Paul Ryan
John Kasich
John McCain
Hollywood celebs
Wolf Blitzer
Chris Mathews
Anderson Phaggot
Howard
Sasquatch Obama
Harry Reid
Nancy Pelosi

Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on November 14, 2016, 04:57:57 PM
Winner:

Wikileaks
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 14, 2016, 05:32:56 PM
Winner: Ann Coulter

In the Butthurt Hillary Supporters YouTube which already has 2.5 million views, she predicts Trump and gets laughed at by the entire audience and the guests.

&sns=em

They ain't laughin' now.
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: polychronopolous on November 14, 2016, 05:48:02 PM
Winners

Milo

Stefan Molyneux

Alex Jones

Roger Stone

Mike Cernovich

Paul J. Watson

Gavin McGinnes

Styxhexenhammer666

Bill Still

ET Williams
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 14, 2016, 05:54:49 PM
Losers

Failbama
The Clinton Crime family.
Libfags
The media losers and failures
The feminazis
The millenials
The middle eastern sheiks
Isis.
Getbig liberals
Huffington Post losers. 
Pajama Boy losers
Michelle Obama and her loser kids.
Ruth Ginsberg







Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: polychronopolous on November 14, 2016, 06:01:52 PM
Losers

Failbama
The Clinton Crime family.
Libfags
The media losers and failures
The feminazis
The millenials
The middle eastern sheiks
Isis.
Getbig liberals
Huffington Post losers. 
Pajama Boy losers
Michelle Obama and her loser kids.
Ruth Ginsberg









 ;D
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on November 14, 2016, 06:02:31 PM
Winner: Ann Coulter

In the Butthurt Hillary Supporters YouTube which already has 2.5 million views, she predicts Trump and gets laughed at by the entire audience and the guests.

&sns=em

They ain't laughin' now.

The girl saying she was going to kill herself was pretty spooky.  These people are nuts. 
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on November 14, 2016, 06:03:19 PM
Losers:

John Podesta
Donna Brazille
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: tatoo on November 15, 2016, 04:38:55 AM
winners..... the true Americans who love the usa
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Yamcha on November 15, 2016, 05:32:07 AM
Winners

Everyone; Trump most likely averted the Cold War 2.0 and/or WWIII w/ Russia.

Losers

Those individuals who failed to grasp the above; They will always live as sheep in the darkness

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Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 15, 2016, 09:39:11 AM
Donna Brazile fires back at CNN for ‘ripping me a new one’
nypost ^
Posted on 11/15/2016, 10:33:54 AM by ChicagoConservative27

Donna Brazile fired back at her former employer, saying CNN ripped her “a new one” instead of letting her defend herself against leaked emails showing she gave Hillary Clinton a sneak peak at debate questions.

“I wish CNN had given me some other things, like the ability to defend myself rather than ripping me a new one,” Brazile said at a Monday event at Hollins University, according to the Roanoke Times.

“CNN never gave me a question,” Brazile said of her resignation.

Brazile, who is the interim chair of the Democratic National Committee, revealed that she’s still feeling pain over Clinton’s stunning defeat.

“It’s not as therapeutic as actual grief,” she said. “Actual grief, there’s a stage in which you can move on, but in political grief, it’s circling because everybody feels as though their indignation, their righteous indignation, can be aimed at and turned to someone else.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: loco on November 15, 2016, 11:50:54 AM
Wanda Sykes snaps on crowd after getting BOOED for calling Trump a RACIST

Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 15, 2016, 11:58:54 AM
Wanda Sykes snaps on crowd after getting BOOED for calling Trump a RACIST



Sinatra never would've shown such hostility to the audience. That's why Frank worked the big rooms.
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: mass243 on November 15, 2016, 12:22:35 PM
Winners

Everyone; Trump most likely averted the Cold War 2.0 and/or WWIII w/ Russia.

Losers

Those individuals who failed to grasp the above; They will always live as sheep in the darkness

(https://i.reddituploads.com/eb9d99d2e729485ab701992dbdd54bb1?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=f754d6ea2d63c53c5c56c9c7eb6b6dda)

The men already had a phone conversation.
I heard next year is going to mark some anniversary of Russia and USA establishing diplomatic relations which should be good opportunity to start normalization of ties.


 
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 16, 2016, 06:26:23 PM
Winner: Elise Stefanik


She's a Congresswoman in Upstate NY, and the youngest woman ever to be Elected to Congress.

When the Trump "Grab her by the Pussy" tape come out, she caught a lot of heat and was being pressured to drop her support for Trump, but she hung tough and it paid off:

Of course, according to the Young Turks, she and her Harvard Degree are dumb.

Congresswoman Stefanik Reasserts Support of Trump at Debate | WRGB

http://cbs6albany.com/news/local/congresswoman-stefanik-reasserts-support-of-trump-at-debate
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 17, 2016, 05:24:40 AM
The Democrats Won’t Autopsy Their Own Corpse
Townhall.com ^ | November 17, 2016 | Kurt Schlichter
Posted on 11/17/2016, 7:58:24 AM

________________________ _____________________




The Democrats already know the cause of their utter electoral humiliation: all those flyover people who had voted for Obama last time were actually racists who demonstrated their racism by not voting for the tired old white lady too.

Far be it for me to help out you terrible Democrat clowns by suggesting that your terrible party has a terrible problem and you might want to figure out how to fix it. Sure, Hillary did get a lot of votes. Maybe even a majority of votes. And, considering we are not a democracy but a constitutional republic, of equal relevance is the fact that I own a hat.

You lost. And it’s because you suck.

Now, you and rest of the unshaven she-beasts and spindly femboys could take this opportunity for reflection and introspection following the election instead of retreating to your campus safe spaces for vegan cookies and awkward hugs. You could try to figure out where you went wrong losing so many voters who you used to have sewn up. The idea is to figure out how you might be able to prevent similar results in the future. Some call it a “post-event analysis.” In the Army – for the goatee n’ scarf gang, that’s the one that fights on the ground – we call it an “after action review.” Coroners call it an “autopsy.”

And you’ll never, ever do it. Why? Because you are liberals and you already have your answers.

Everyone is racist.

Everyone is sexist.

Everyone is stupid.

Everyone but you, that is. You, the ones the racist, sexist, stupid people beat like a NFL player’s wife.

And speaking of the NFL, have you noticed how its own autopsy of its own dying ratings also seems to have a predetermined outcome, one that studiously avoids any unwelcome conclusions?

Oh, it’s too many ads.

Oh, it’s too many penalties.

Oh, it’s the election.

Anything missing? Anything significant to, say, the kind of people who used to like football? I dunno, maybe the NFL’s coddling of spoiled jerks who disrespect the flag?

Nah. I mean, what kind of uneducated, racist moron would object to some gratuitous flag hating?

Hmmm. Maybe the kind of people who aren’t watching the NFL anymore.

And maybe this might provide an insight for the Democrat Party. Maybe the answer might not be what you want to hear, but what you need to hear. Maybe some of those missing voters think there are more important things to do than ensuring our tax money gets spent dismembering babies, making heroes out of thugs who got themselves shot, or trying to ensure that grown men can pee freely among little girls.

Nah. If Americans outside the big blue cities don’t care about the social obsessions of aging hippies, indoctrinated millennials, and frigid feminists, then they’re wrong. You can probably fix everything by redoubling your efforts to show them how horrible they are.

Call them “racist” even louder.

Call them “sexist” even more shrilly.

Call in Lena Dunham and have her waddle out to rural Pennsylvania to explain why white men need to be exterminated. I’m sure that’ll win back those Trump-voting guys and gals. And when they start muttering “There’s not enough Rolling Rock in Pittsburgh,” it means they think she’s hot.

Plus, don’t forget to pay more unemployed deadbeats to march around waving Mexican flags and burning American ones. Normal people love that. The whole “#NotMyPresident”/”I hate the Electoral College yet still I saw Hamilton twice” thing is helpful too. Nothing like telling the rest of America “Heads we win/tails you lose.”

But, of course, why pretend to respect their opinions when you don’t respect their opinions. They like guns and America and Jesus, and frankly those things are, at best, embarrassing if not downright horrible. I mean, #Science, right?

Yeah, I played the #Science card. Case closed. Who needs to even talk to the idiots who are clearly too stupid to understand that their role is to rubberstamp the political manifestations of liberal fads and urban mysticism. I mean, some of those people work in fracking and just don’t understand that despite the ever-growing series of “This is it, we’re doomed, we really, really mean it this time” milestones falling back in society’s collective rear-view mirror, the weather obsessions of blue city neurotics are much, much more important than them feeding their families.

Because, of course, #Science.

No, you can’t identify and fix your cheesy party’s problems because your ridiculous ideology already compels your conclusions. Why bother assembling and analyzing the facts when you know what the answer will be, what it must be: racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, and whatever other faux-phobias that come slinking out of academia to give you an excuse to hector and nag normal people.

When your whole party is based on virtue signaling, you don’t have a lot of options except more virtue signaling. So you’ll stick safety pins in your $600 sweaters, retweet your powerful hashtags, and unfriend anyone who doesn’t think exactly like all you nonconformist rebels. The more adventurous among you liberal bravehearts will courageously call for a California secession – well, my new novel previews how things will go for you without having any of those normal people you look down upon around to keep you fed and fueled and safe. Let’s just say it would go poorly.

And when you come back to report that the corpse of your party is alive and well and that rumors of the Democrat Party’s death have been greatly exaggerated, I’m going to smile, because you have 25 Senate seats up in 2018, many in red states, and the GOP needs just eight for a filibuster-proof majority. Go ahead, double down on what got you to this point, the point where I can drive from sea to shining sea without touching a patch of blue. You’re doin’ swell!

So enjoy your party’s fake autopsy – I know I will.
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 17, 2016, 05:41:19 AM
On the Young Turks Electionnight YouTube, Cenk says that Elizabeth Warren will destroy Trump in 2020.
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Yamcha on November 17, 2016, 05:53:59 AM
On the Young Turks Electionnight YouTube, Cenk says that Elizabeth Warren will destroy Trump in 2020.

Trump already makes her look insane without even speaking to her.

Her tweets make her look unstable, and she really hasn't done anything as a Senator except talk.
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 17, 2016, 05:55:50 AM
Trump already makes her look insane without even speaking to her.

Her tweets make her look unstable, and she really hasn't done anything as a Senator except talk.

She is another fringe whhacckadoo
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 17, 2016, 10:32:57 AM
http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/11/16/democrats-know-why-they-lost-but-won-fix-their-problems/nITzuJIET6YBmxS2GV0J0O/story.html
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 17, 2016, 10:56:19 AM
Chuck Todd: The Clintons Are ‘Being Wiped Off the Map In Democratic Politics’
Breitbart ^ | November 16, 2016 | Ian Hanchett
Posted on 11/17/2016, 1:04:10 PM by monkapotamus

On Wednesday’s “MTP Daily,” host Chuck Todd stated that it appears “Clintons are quietly being wiped off the map in Democratic politics,” and they’ve “kind of evaporated in the past week...”

He added, “t seems like the Clintons are quietly being wiped off the map in Democratic politics, but instead of being done in a very public way, sort of an excommunication a la Dukakis or Carter. It’s just quiet...”

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on December 19, 2016, 10:28:48 AM
Loser:

Andrew Cuomo. 

NY Gov. Cuomo Booked 200 D.C. Hotel Rooms for Clinton Inauguration
Dec 19, 2016 // 7:47am
As seen on Fox & Friends

Rexnord Employee Facing Termination: We Must Hold Trump Accountable

Gutfeld Skewers Anti-Trump Celebs: Do They Know Martin Sheen Wasn't Actually Pres.?

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo was so confident that Hillary Clinton would win the presidential election that he booked 200 hotel rooms in Washington, D.C. for her inauguration.

The New York Post reported that Cuomo, a longtime Clinton supporter, planned for the rooms at the downtown Loews Madison to be used by family, friends and supporters.

When President-elect Donald Trump won, Cuomo was stuck with the reservations, so he reportedly had a staffer call, Ed Cox, chairman of New York’s Republican Party, to offer him the giant block of rooms.

“The best part is Cuomo booked so early, he locked in a really low rate,” the Posts's source reportedly said. “Rooms in D.C. are a hot commodity right now.”

Watch the "News by the Numbers" segment above, and let us know what you think in the comments below.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/12/19/new-york-gov-andrew-cuomo-booked-200-dc-hotel-rooms-hillary-clinton-inauguration
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Howard on December 19, 2016, 10:50:55 AM
Winners and Losers of the 2016 election. 

Biggest Winners:

Trump for obvious reasons.

Kellyanne Conway.  She was the difference maker IMO. 

All of those who gave the establishment a big middle finger and backed Trump early:  Palin, Guiliani, Sessions, Christi, Dr. Carson, Newt, Lt. Gen Flynn, etc. 

The LA Times poll, which relied on the same group of voters for its poll and, contrary to almost every other polling service, got it right.

IBD.   For the second presidential election in a row, was the most accurate poll before the election. 

Biggest Losers:

The mainstream media.  Abandoned all pretenses of trying to be objective and engaged in the most outrageously biased “reporting” I have ever seen in a presidential campaign. 

Pollsters, including the guy I follow most closely Nate Silver.  They whiffed on Trump.  Twice. 

The plethora of hypocritical liberals who were outraged when Trump refused to say during the last debate that he would support Hillary if she won, who responded to the election by saying “not my president,” protesting, crying, etc.

Clinton, Inc.  A lifetime sham marriage whose goal included a presidential dynasty.  They succeeded in enriching themselves, but failed miserably on their ultimate goal of a Hillary presidency. 

Gloria Allred.  The most irritating woman in America tried to sink Trump with a bimbo eruption and failed.  That makes me smile. 

Feel free to add yours. 

Good post EXCEPT for NJ Gov Christie. Looks like bridge gate is gonna bite his ample ass.
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on December 26, 2016, 07:08:53 PM
Loser:

President Obama.  This is hilarious. 

CNN on Monday published an interview that former Obama senior adviser David Axelrod conducted with his old boss, who claimed the vision of a united America he stressed in his famous 2004 Democratic National Convention keynote speech is still powerful enough that it might have carried the day.
'You know, I am confident in this vision because I'm confident that if I – if I had run again and articulated it, I think I could've mobilized a majority of the American people to rally behind it.'

'I know that in conversations that I've had with people around the country, even some people who disagreed with me, they would say, "The vision, the direction that you point towards is the right one",' he said.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4066510/Obama-says-beaten-Trump-allowed-run-weigh-important-issues-ex-president-instead-staying-sidelines.html#ixzz4U0JpVf8l
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on January 16, 2017, 06:23:57 PM
Losers:

Congressman John Lewis

and again . . . Rachel Maddow.  lol

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Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Yamcha on January 19, 2017, 03:49:54 AM
Losers: Black Churches  ;)

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Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Yamcha on January 19, 2017, 03:51:17 AM
Losers: Swing Sets
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on May 29, 2017, 01:42:31 PM
Hillary Clinton Lashes Out at Press and ‘Sexism’ for 2016 Loss, Claims She Beat Trump
(http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/09/hillary-angry-getty-640x480.jpg)
Justin Sullivan/Getty Images
by ADAM SHAW
27 May 2017

After entering the White House in 2009, President Barack Obama went on his famous “apology” tour. Now, Hillary Clinton, having failed to win the White House in 2016, is currently on an “I’m owed an apology” tour.
In an interview for an article by New York Magazine published Friday, Clinton has apparently moved past “gracious Hillary” and “relaxed in the woods Hillary” and has now moved into “angry Hillary” mode.

“I would have won had I not been subjected to the unprecedented attacks by [former FBI Director James] Comey and the Russians, aided and abetted by the suppression of the vote, particularly in Wisconsin,” she complains, adding voter suppression to her normal narrative blaming Russia/Comey.

Clinton resurrected the Russia/Comey excuse in an interview earlier this month with CNN’s Christiane Amanpour when she also called herself “part of the resistance” and claimed, “If the election had been on October 27, I would be your president.” But now she is taking it to the next level.

In the New York Magazine article, called “Hillary Clinton Is Furious. And Resigned. And Funny. And Worried,” the predominant mood is the fury — not the resignation, worry, or her alleged sense of humor. In the interview, Clinton pounces on the press — particularly the “advocacy press on the right.”

The press, she believes, didn’t make it any easier. “Look, we have an advocacy press on the right that has done a really good job for the last 25 years,” she says. “They have a mission. They use the rights given to them under the First Amendment to advocate a set of policies that are in their interests, their commercial, corporate, religious interests. Because the advocacy media occupies the right, and the center needs to be focused on providing as accurate information as possible. Not both-sides-ism and not false equivalency.”

She then blasts MSNBC and The New York Times for hiring moderate conservatives such as George Will and Bret Stephens, seething: “Why … would … you … do … that?” before saying 66 million people voted for her and “you know, the crazy third-party people” — a reminder of her famous “deplorable” comment that helped doom her candidacy.

Sixty-six million people voted for me, plus, you know, the crazy third-party people. So there’s a lot of people who would actually appreciate stronger arguments on behalf of the most existential challenges facing our country and the world, climate change being one of them! It’s clearly a commercial decision. But I don’t think it will work. I mean, they’re laughing on the right at these puny efforts to try to appease people on the right.

Clinton also blames her opponents in the primary and the general election for capitalizing on anger. When asked if Trump and Sanders capitalized on anger, Clinton says, “Yes,” and adds (incorrectly) “And I beat both of them.”

Clinton is also happy, when prodded, to blame her defeat on sexism. She believes, for instance, that the viciousness of the attacks against her was because women are seen as less likable as they become more successful.

“Once I moved from serving someone — a man, the president — to seeking that job on my own, I was once again vulnerable to the barrage of innuendo and negativity and attacks that come with the territory of a woman who is striving to go further,” she said.

Author Rebecca Traister — who at one point mulls “how a pussy-grabbing goblin managed to gain the White House over an experienced woman” — notes that online searches for “misogyny” have increased.

Asking Clinton if she can still believe people don’t know what misogyny means, Clinton responds: “Why, yes. I guess I can believe that.”

The New York Magazine article was published the same day as Clinton gave a commencement address at her alma mater, in which she warned against politicians who invent their own facts and “attempt to control reality.”

“When people in power invent their own facts and attack those who question them, it can mark the beginning of the end of a free society,” she said. “That is not hyperbole, it is what authoritarian regimes throughout history have done. … They attempt to control reality.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/05/27/hillary-clinton-lashes-out-at-press-and-sexism-for-2016-loss-claims-she-beat-trump/
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Howard on May 29, 2017, 03:29:09 PM
Newsflash - Hillary lost. Why do you dickwads care about what she said last year?

Trump's President ...but who knows for how long? ;)
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Las Vegas on May 29, 2017, 03:39:21 PM
Newsflash - Hillary lost. Why do you dickwads care about what she said last year?

Trump's President ...but who knows for how long? ;)

What do you mean?
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 29, 2017, 03:54:57 PM

What an old harpy


Hillary Clinton Lashes Out at Press and ‘Sexism’ for 2016 Loss, Claims She Beat Trump
(http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/09/hillary-angry-getty-640x480.jpg)
Justin Sullivan/Getty Images
by ADAM SHAW
27 May 2017

After entering the White House in 2009, President Barack Obama went on his famous “apology” tour. Now, Hillary Clinton, having failed to win the White House in 2016, is currently on an “I’m owed an apology” tour.
In an interview for an article by New York Magazine published Friday, Clinton has apparently moved past “gracious Hillary” and “relaxed in the woods Hillary” and has now moved into “angry Hillary” mode.

“I would have won had I not been subjected to the unprecedented attacks by [former FBI Director James] Comey and the Russians, aided and abetted by the suppression of the vote, particularly in Wisconsin,” she complains, adding voter suppression to her normal narrative blaming Russia/Comey.

Clinton resurrected the Russia/Comey excuse in an interview earlier this month with CNN’s Christiane Amanpour when she also called herself “part of the resistance” and claimed, “If the election had been on October 27, I would be your president.” But now she is taking it to the next level.

In the New York Magazine article, called “Hillary Clinton Is Furious. And Resigned. And Funny. And Worried,” the predominant mood is the fury — not the resignation, worry, or her alleged sense of humor. In the interview, Clinton pounces on the press — particularly the “advocacy press on the right.”

The press, she believes, didn’t make it any easier. “Look, we have an advocacy press on the right that has done a really good job for the last 25 years,” she says. “They have a mission. They use the rights given to them under the First Amendment to advocate a set of policies that are in their interests, their commercial, corporate, religious interests. Because the advocacy media occupies the right, and the center needs to be focused on providing as accurate information as possible. Not both-sides-ism and not false equivalency.”

She then blasts MSNBC and The New York Times for hiring moderate conservatives such as George Will and Bret Stephens, seething: “Why … would … you … do … that?” before saying 66 million people voted for her and “you know, the crazy third-party people” — a reminder of her famous “deplorable” comment that helped doom her candidacy.

Sixty-six million people voted for me, plus, you know, the crazy third-party people. So there’s a lot of people who would actually appreciate stronger arguments on behalf of the most existential challenges facing our country and the world, climate change being one of them! It’s clearly a commercial decision. But I don’t think it will work. I mean, they’re laughing on the right at these puny efforts to try to appease people on the right.

Clinton also blames her opponents in the primary and the general election for capitalizing on anger. When asked if Trump and Sanders capitalized on anger, Clinton says, “Yes,” and adds (incorrectly) “And I beat both of them.”

Clinton is also happy, when prodded, to blame her defeat on sexism. She believes, for instance, that the viciousness of the attacks against her was because women are seen as less likable as they become more successful.

“Once I moved from serving someone — a man, the president — to seeking that job on my own, I was once again vulnerable to the barrage of innuendo and negativity and attacks that come with the territory of a woman who is striving to go further,” she said.

Author Rebecca Traister — who at one point mulls “how a pussy-grabbing goblin managed to gain the White House over an experienced woman” — notes that online searches for “misogyny” have increased.

Asking Clinton if she can still believe people don’t know what misogyny means, Clinton responds: “Why, yes. I guess I can believe that.”

The New York Magazine article was published the same day as Clinton gave a commencement address at her alma mater, in which she warned against politicians who invent their own facts and “attempt to control reality.”

“When people in power invent their own facts and attack those who question them, it can mark the beginning of the end of a free society,” she said. “That is not hyperbole, it is what authoritarian regimes throughout history have done. … They attempt to control reality.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/05/27/hillary-clinton-lashes-out-at-press-and-sexism-for-2016-loss-claims-she-beat-trump/
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Howard on May 29, 2017, 05:57:10 PM
What do you mean?

I'm a conservative libertarian "never Trump" voter.
Trump was so bad, my wife and I had to vote for Hillary instead.


But make no mistake, I'm no fan of Hillary .
So, I don't give a fuk about what she said or did, especially now.

I'd love to see Trump resign , so Pence could be potus.
That was the republican led congress could get some real effective legislation passed.

Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Las Vegas on May 29, 2017, 08:28:22 PM
I'm a conservative libertarian "never Trump" voter.
Trump was so bad, my wife and I had to vote for Hillary instead.


But make no mistake, I'm no fan of Hillary .
So, I don't give a fuk about what she said or did, especially now.

I'd love to see Trump resign , so Pence could be potus.
That was the republican led congress could get some real effective legislation passed.



Why did you mention "last year"?  That's what I'm asking. 

What caused you to say that?

Trying to figure out if I've missed your logic, or what happened.
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Nick Danger on May 29, 2017, 08:39:30 PM
Coach taking up four spots at the mall... ;D

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Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: polychronopolous on May 29, 2017, 08:42:38 PM
Coach taking up four spots at the mall... ;D

(https://i.redditmedia.com/8NRuDmk9xRiFPjI8Llx4l4iqjZZPfEjUaG8nod--JPg.jpg?w=609&s=5cf07b6089821f9a12d5405bd93ea25d)

Just like all the places his party is taking up by winning elections.
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on June 01, 2017, 10:27:25 AM
Aside from how bad this is making her look, I wonder if she is trying to get out in front of a possible reopening of the investigation?  I always thought the results of the FBI investigation should have, at a minimum, been presented to a grand jury.
 
Still Sore: Hillary Blames DNC, SCOTUS, ‘1,000 Russian Agents’ for Loss
Clinton public appearances dominated by increasingly bizarre election-defeat claims
by Jim Stinson | Updated 31 May 2017

Hillary Clinton spoke to Goldman Sachs for the very simple reason that she got paid, the former Democratic presidential candidate told an audience at Recode’s annual coding conference in Rancho Palos Verdes, California.

Clinton took the opportunity to blame numerous players for her Nov. 8 election defeat, and also to justify her use of the term “vast right-wing conspiracy” all the way back in 1998. The “conspiracy” against her, she suggested, is still alive.

“The Russians … could not have known how best to weaponize that information unless they had been … guided by Americans. And guided by people who had polling and data and information.”

Clinton, speaking to Recode founders Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher, said she didn’t lose because of her own choices or flaws — such as taking money to speak to big banks, or her odd failure to substantially campaign in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan.

“I take responsibility for every decision I made, but that’s not why I lost,” said Clinton, blaming Russia, “weaponized information,” the Supreme Court’s decision in Citizens United, and many more players.

Clinton blamed propaganda and “content” that was used by President Donald Trump’s campaign and allies to influence voters in a covert type of manner.

Clinton blamed “the other side” for using “content farms” and fake news to target her.

“How about lies?” said Mossberg, to applause from the liberal-leaning audience.

While Clinton told Mossberg and Swisher she did not engage in lies during her campaign, she said Trump's side did. Clinton also raised the theory that "1,000 Russian agents" were working every day to make sure that distorted "content" was appearing before internet users. Clinton did not cite her source for the claim.

Another bizarre claim Clinton made was that Trump advisers Steve Bannon and Kellyanne Conway were chosen to run the final months of the Trump campaign because of the urging of Cambridge Analytica, which is owned by billionaire Rebecca Mercer and family. The Mercers said they would "wed" their data with the RNC and Trump's data if the hires were made.

Bannon and Conway did not immediately return a request from LifeZette to respond.

Clinton also blamed the Democratic National Committee for being in poor shape, after eight years of what should have been salad days for the party, given former President Barack Obama's tenure.

"I set up my campaign, and we have our own data operation," said Clinton. "I get the nomination. So I'm now the nominee of the Democratic party. I inherit nothing from the Democratic party. I mean, it was bankrupt. It was on the verge of insolvency. Its data was mediocre to poor, nonexistent, wrong. I had to inject money into it."

The question of data was on Clinton's mind, quite a bit, and not just because she was at a coding conference. Clinton laid out a three-part conspiracy in which weaponized information was coordinated on Facebook and elsewhere. Clinton came very close to suggesting Cambridge Analytica coordinated with the Russians.

The three-part conspiracy started, Clinton said, when the Russians stole information from the Democrats and Clinton's campaign manager, John Podesta.

The next step was coordination, Clinton said. There was no possible way, Clinton said, that the Russians would know how to distribute the information in the most damaging way, without American help. (Clinton brushed aside the fact that WikiLeaks began leaking the information on Oct. 7, because she said WikiLeaks is the same thing as the Russian secret service.)

"The Russians, in my opinion, and based on the intel and counterintel people I've talked to, could not have known how best to weaponize that information unless they had been guided," said Clinton. "Guided by Americans. And guided by people who had polling and data and information."

Then came FBI Director James Comey's decision to order a new investigation into Clinton's email server on Oct. 28. Clinton had gotten into trouble in 2015 for running State Department emails through her private server.

Clinton said Comey acted upon false Russian information to order the new investigation just before the election.

Clinton said she is "leaning" in the direction of blaming Trump for the coordination and the fake news.

"I think it's pretty hard not to," said Clinton.

https://www.lifezette.com/polizette/still-sore-hillary-blames-dnc-scotus-1000-russian-agents-loss/
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: HockeyFightFan on June 01, 2017, 11:52:17 AM
Did she mention the damage her womanizing husband caused when he illegally met with Loretta Lynch ?

How about her Benghazi fuck up?

Anything about destroying evidence while under FBI subpoena?

Anything about her passing out on the campaign trail and then lying about it?

How about getting exposed through Podesta emails that the Clinton Foundation was used a her personal piggy bank?

Any mention of her brilliant campaign strategies....like where to campaign and calling half the country deplorables?

I'm sure that's all in there...or was it all deleted in "a vast right-wing conspiracy?"
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Yamcha on June 01, 2017, 11:54:37 AM
Well this is just getting embarrassing now for Hillary... I guess TPTB are upset their 1 billion dollar investment was a flop

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Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Howard on June 01, 2017, 12:24:10 PM
Why did you mention "last year"?  That's what I'm asking. 

What caused you to say that?

Trying to figure out if I've missed your logic, or what happened.

She's rehashing about why she lost, LAST year ( Nov 2016).
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on June 01, 2017, 01:38:51 PM
Did she mention the damage her womanizing husband caused when he illegally met with Loretta Lynch ?

How about her Benghazi fuck up?

Anything about destroying evidence while under FBI subpoena?

Anything about her passing out on the campaign trail and then lying about it?

How about getting exposed through Podesta emails that the Clinton Foundation was used a her personal piggy bank?

Any mention of her brilliant campaign strategies....like where to campaign and calling half the country deplorables?

I'm sure that's all in there...or was it all deleted in "a vast right-wing conspiracy?"

Now this is why she lost, along with her unfavorable ratings being historically high. 
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on June 05, 2017, 11:41:15 AM
She probably blames God too for her loss.  And why is her pastor talking to the media about this?  To help with sales of her upcoming devotional book?  Just further proof that there is nothing authentic about this woman. 

EXCLUSIVE: Are you there God? It's me, Hillary. Clinton is praying EVERY DAY after her defeat by Trump reveals pastor who sends her special prayers about 'being strong'
Hillary Clinton's pastor, Rev Bill Shillady, tells DailyMail.com he sends daily prayers to defeated Democratic candidate about 'being strong'
He said that Clinton has been finding 'strength and hope' in her Methodist faith as she tries to understand what went wrong
Rev Shillady sent Clinton a daily devotional throughout her presidential campaign and needed team of writers to put them together 
They were first thing she read each morning  and the pastor wrote them based on 'the headlines of the day'
By Daniel Bates For Dailymail.com
PUBLISHED: 5 June 2017

Hillary Clinton has been reading daily devotionals since losing the election which teach her about 'being strong in the midst of unpredictability', her pastor has revealed.

The Rev Bill Shillady said that the former Democratic Presidential candidate's prayers have been about 'encouragement' as she grapples with her shock defeat to Donald Trump.

He said that Clinton has been finding 'strength and hope' in her Methodist faith as she tries to understand what went wrong.

Clinton has only touched briefly on the personal impact her defeat has had on her making Rev Shillady's disclosure a significant insight into her state of mind.

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Turned to prayer: Hillary Clinton is still seeking solace in her faith after her shock November defeat at the hands of Donald Trump, her pastor has revealed. She spoke about her defeat at BookExpo 2017 in New York last week

Daily prayer: The Rev Bill Shillady sent a devotional to Clinton at 5am every day during her campaign; it was the first thing she read   +4
'Secretary Clinton found strength from these devotionals that I sent to her each day at 5am,' Rev Shillady told DailyMail.com.

She has not mentioned the importance of her faith in overcoming the defeat, but did say during her commencement speech at Wellesley College that she had taken long walks, reorganized her closets and joked: 'I won't lie, chardonnay helped a little, too.'

Rev Shillady said that Clinton 'reads her scripture and prays each and every day' and that was helping her to get through the darker days.

Rev Shillady has known the Clintons for more than a decade, and helped officiate at the wedding of their daughter Chelsea to her husband Marc Mezvinsky.

He also led the memorial service for Clinton's mother Dorothy Rodham in 2011.

Speaking to DailyMail.com, the Methodist minister from New York said that he began sending Clinton daily devotions in Easter 2015 when she told him she was running for the Presidency.

They were the first thing she read each morning and gave her inspiration for her day.

He said: 'Secretary Clinton found strength from these devotionals that I sent to her each day at 5am.

'My team of writers and I used passages of scripture, a reflection on that passage, and a prayer to support her depending on the events that were taking place.

'I would write the devotional after reading the headlines of the day.'

Rev Shillady said that Clinton 'cares about people' and 'lives out her faith in her constant compassion and caring for the least, the last, and the lost'.

He said that he spoke to her a few days after election night and she encourages him to publish all the devotionals 'because they gave her strength in the midst of the loss'.

Recently he has been giving her devotionals about 'encouragement, being strong in the midst of unpredictability, he said.

He said: 'I know how important it is for me as a person of faith to rise each morning and center my day around prayer, meditation, and spiritual thinking.'

Some 365 of the 600 devotionals will be released in full in a book called 'Strong For A Moment Like This: The Daily Devotionals of Hillary Rodham Clinton', which is out in October, and being published by Abingdon Press.

They will be organized into 12 themes, such as Forgiveness, Doing Good, Courage, and Women.

They will show how much Mrs Clinton was inspired to use their lessons in her speeches like in a January 2016 interview with Buzzfeed in which she talked about 'love and kindness'.

Lhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4574228/Hillary-Clinton-praying-DAY-defeat.html#ixzz4j9e5niLC
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 05, 2017, 11:08:15 PM
Losers are liberals......just because.
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Yamcha on June 06, 2017, 03:47:05 PM
Losers are liberals......just because.

Soon they will hate the Sun.
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Las Vegas on June 06, 2017, 04:39:44 PM
She's rehashing about why she lost, LAST year ( Nov 2016).


But speaking about it last week, right?
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on September 18, 2017, 03:41:21 PM
Still losing.  lol

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Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Straw Man on September 18, 2017, 04:00:47 PM
Winner - Rachel Maddow

MSNBC host Rachel Maddow had the most-watched show in cable news in August, ending the month with 2.783 million total viewers, according to data released by Nielsen Media Research. It was Maddow's second month in a row as No. 1


https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2017/08/29/rachel-maddow-ends-august-as-number-one-in-cable-news/#67275b6b6b63

Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on October 03, 2017, 10:48:27 AM
My guess is Hannity continues to kick the crap out of Maddow. 

Hannity beats Maddow in first week of 9 p.m. showdown
Aided by big-name guests Bannon, O'Reilly and Limbaugh, the conservative wins the first battle of the cable firebrands.
By JASON SCHWARTZ
09/29/2017

In the first week of the head-to-head battle between Sean Hannity and Rachel Maddow, the conservative heavyweight drew significantly higher ratings than his liberal counterpart.

Fox News moved Hannity’s show from 10 p.m. to 9 p.m. as part of a broader shakeup of its prime-time line-up, designed in part to counter a dramatic ratings surge by rival MSNBC, led by Maddow, the biggest ratings winner of the Trump era.

Hannity pulled out all the stops, bringing in Steve Bannon, Bill O’Reilly, Paul Ryan and Rush Limbaugh to boost his numbers. It appears to have worked: The Fox News pundit pulled in an average of 3,498,000 viewers from Monday through Thursday, with 713,000 in the key adult 25-54 demographic, according to early Nielsen figures.

Maddow averaged 2,649,000 viewers, with 599,000 adults 25-54. CNN’s 9 p.m. hour — which usually features Anderson Cooper’s “AC360,” but this week had two special town halls — finished third, with 1,173,000 viewers and 416,000 in the key demographic.

Representatives from Fox News and MSNBC declined to comment.

Hannity’s big numbers allow Fox News to claim bragging rights and, for the moment, grab back the 9 p.m. crown from MSNBC.

On Tuesday, MSNBC announced that “The Rachel Maddow Show” had finished the third quarter as the top cable news program in total viewers (2.7 million) and adults 25-54 (606,000), according to Nielsen. It was the first time an MSNBC show has claimed that title for a quarter. The show’s Nielsen ratings had shot up 75 percent compared with the same period last year, leading MSNBC to its best ratings quarter ever.

Overall, though, for the 63rd straight quarter, Fox News was still the most watched cable news network, even with a schedule that has been in flux since the departures of Megyn Kelly in January and Bill O’Reilly in April, when he was forced out amid allegations of sexual harassment. Hannity’s move to 9 p.m. cleared the way for a new show for conservative commentator Laura Ingraham at 10 p.m., set to launch Oct. 30.

“The Five,” which had been occupying Fox News’ 9 p.m. slot since O’Reilly’s ouster, finished the third quarter behind Maddow, with 2.3 million viewers and 486,000 adults 25-54, according to Nielsen. It has since returned to its 5 p.m. time slot. CNN’s “AC360” was a distant third, with 1.2 million viewers and 403,000 in the key demographic.

In the third quarter, Hannity averaged 2.5 million viewers at 10 p.m. (533,000 adults 25-54), per Nielsen. The figure trailed Maddow, though the 10 p.m. hour typically has fewer viewers than 9 p.m. So, when Fox News announced that Hannity was moving back to 9, headlines buzzed about a showdown between him and his liberal foil.

Gemma Puglisi, a professor at American University’s School of Communication, said that once a ratings pattern is established, there will be value in the bragging rights. Whoever comes out No. 1 will benefit from added buzz and have an easier time attracting new viewers, predicted Puglisi, who worked many years, partly as a producer, at NBC News, and also had brief stints at both CNN and Fox News.

“I think this kind of battle is fueling people to watch,” she said. “Everybody likes winners.”

According to television analysts, however, it would be a mistake to overreact to Hannity’s good week. Moreover, they say, when it comes to advertising, the rivalry has only limited impact.

“I wouldn’t make a lot out of it,” Joseph Bonner, a senior analyst for communications and technology at Argus Research, said of the ratings. He emphasized that just one week isn’t enough to draw conclusions and noted that Hannity’s high profile guests likely helped goose his ratings. “Certainly bragging rights, but I don’t think MSNBC is going to be canceling Maddow or anything.”

More broadly, the ratings competition between Maddow and Hannity has little impact on advertising, according to Scott Robson, an analyst at research firm Kagan. While it’s fun for the networks to battle head to head, he said, the audiences for Hannity and Maddow are so different that the two shows aren’t directly competing for advertisers.

Just 21 percent of Fox News or MSNBC viewers ever tune into the rival network, according to Kagan’s numbers. “It’s normally a lot higher if you look at any other networks,” Robson said. “There’s not that big of an audience duplication there.”

He added that only five advertisers run commercials on both shows: AARP, AT&T, CenturyLink, Gain detergent and National Car Rental. Both Hannity and Maddow feature their fair share of pharmaceutical and insurance spots, but Robson said advertisers are almost certainly using internal data to cater to each show’s viewer base. Shifts in ratings, he said, were unlikely to cause a drug company to shift its ad for a particular drug from Hannity to Maddow or vice-versa.

Robson added that Hannity was likely aided this week by strong conservative interest in the Republican Senate special election runoff in Alabama. “There’s still many more shows to go and I’m sure that as the news shifts and guests change, we could see the dynamics go back and forth,” he said.

According to Brian Wieser, a senior analyst at Pivotal Research, if anyone should be worried, it’s CNN. Given the general growth in the cable news audience, he said, “CNN is significantly underperforming, Fox News is performing roughly in line, and MSNBC is growing dramatically.”

Despite finishing in third, a CNN insider pointed to 23 percent overall growth — and 32 percent in adults 25-54 — in the 9 p.m. hour from a year ago and the substance of the network’s programming, including a town hall this week on NFL player protests.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/29/sean-hannity-rachel-maddow-ratings-243307
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on November 27, 2017, 01:55:26 PM
Hillary Clinton, still the biggest loser.

McCain blasts Clinton's post-election memoir: 'You've got to move on'
Fox News

Arizona Sen. John McCain has blasted Hillary Clinton's post-election loss book in an interview with Esquire magazine published Monday.
rizona Sen. John McCain has blasted Hillary Clinton's post-election loss book in an interview with Esquire magazine published Monday.

Sen. John McCain is blasting Hillary Clinton for penning a memoir so soon after her stunning defeat in the 2016 presidential election while also noting that her problem is “she doesn’t have anything to do.”

“What's the f------ point? Keep the fight up?” McCain, R-Ariz., says in suggesting in an interview with Esquire published Monday that Clinton erred in writing “What Happened” when she did and then going on a media blitz to promote it.

“History will judge that campaign, and it’s always a period of time before they do," the senator told writer David Usborne. "You’ve got to move on. This is Hillary’s problem right now: She doesn’t have anything to do.”

McCain, 81, who is being treated for brain cancer, told the magazine that he resisted the temptation to immediately set the record straight about his 2008 loss to Barrack Obama.

“You’ve got to understand that you can’t rewrite history,” he said. “One of the almost irresistible impulses you have when you lose is to somehow justify why you lost and how you were mistreated: ‘I did the right thing! I did!’ The hardest thing to do is to just shut up.”

Clinton published her tell-all in September.

In it, she holds herself partly responsible for her upset loss to Donald Trump.

"I go back over my own shortcomings and the mistakes we made,” she wrote. “I take responsibility for all of them. You can blame the data, blame the message, blame anything you want -- but I was the candidate. It was my campaign. Those were my decisions.”

But she also casts blame on her Democratic rival Bernie Sanders for his attacks on her during the primary, former FBI Director James Comey for his handling of the investigation into her private emails and Russian President Vladimir Putin for the hacking of her campaign manager’s emails.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/27/mccain-blasts-clintons-post-election-memoir-youve-got-to-move-on.html
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Las Vegas on November 27, 2017, 02:15:35 PM
Quote
"This is Hillary's problem right now: She doesn't have anything to do.

Plenty of alcohol is around, just waiting to be conquered.

Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on February 05, 2018, 02:13:58 PM
She becomes a bigger loser by the month:

Clinton again blames 'misogyny and sexism' for 'what happened' in 2016
By Brooke Singman   | Fox News


Hillary Clinton on Monday returned to blaming “misogyny” and “sexism” for contributing to her 2016 election loss, during a Washington appearance that followed a critical report on how she handled sexual harassment allegations during her 2008 campaign.

Clinton presented the “Human Rights Awards” Monday at Georgetown University, where she sits as honorary founding chair of the Georgetown Institute for Women, Peace and Security.

Clinton spoke about the importance of female leadership in advancing human rights, justice and peace, and went on to discuss the 2016 election during a panel segment.

“Any of you who’ve read my book about 'what happened' know that I think misogyny and sexism was part of that campaign—it was one of the contributing factors,” Clinton said. “Some of it was old-fashioned sexism and the refusal to accept the equality of women, and certainly the equality of women’s leadership.”

Clinton told the audience that the way forward for women’s equality was “through the ballot box.”

“Certainly, voting remains the principal way that every individual can express an opinion,” Clinton said. “And anyone who chooses not to vote, basically leaves that opinion to others and perhaps don’t hold your values.”

Clinton faces mounting criticism for not firing Burns Strider, a top aide to Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign who was accused of sexual misconduct by a young woman on the staff; reaction and analysis from Hugo Gurdon, editorial director at The Washington Examiner.
Video
Hillary Clinton attempts to explain why she didn't fire aide

In her memoir, “What Happened,” which was first released in September, Clinton faulted a range of factors for her loss–like voter ID laws, “Those Damn Emails,” the “unprecedented intervention in our election” by former FBI director James Comey, and the “audacious warfare waged from the Kremlin.”

Clinton also criticized women who did not vote but supported the Women’s March on Jan. 21, 2017. In her book, she called that day “bittersweet.”

Clinton, though, has come under fire in recent days over a New York Times report that during her 2008 presidential run, she helped protect her faith adviser, Burns Strider, after claims he sexually harassed a female campaign staffer.

HILLARY CLINTON, MOMENTS BEFORE STATE OF THE UNION, EXPLAINS WHY SHE DIDN'T FIRE CAMPAIGN ADVISER

Burns Strider HRC
Clinton '08 faith adviser, Burns Strider, allegedly harassed a Clinton campaign staffer.  (Burns Strider Twitter)
Clinton’s then-campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle recommended Strider be fired, but Clinton ignored the advice. Strider instead was ordered to receive counseling and lost several weeks of pay. The young woman was shifted to a new role.

HILLARY CLINTON SLAMMED FOR NO-APOLOGY RESPONSE TO HARASSMENT STORY

Clinton’s initial response to the story -- in which she said she was heartened that the female aide was "heard" but did not apologize -- was widely criticized.

But on the night of President Trump’s first official State of the Union, just minutes before he began his address, Clinton posted a lengthy response to the alleged sexual misconduct on her Facebook page.

“The short answer is this: If I had to do it again, I wouldn’t,” she wrote, noting that she believes in “second chances” and didn’t want to completely terminate his employment.

In a political shot at Trump for not discussing sexual harassment during his State of the Union speech, Clinton teased her Facebook post again. 

“I wrote a Facebook post about a decision I made 10 years ago, what’s changed, & on an issue you didn’t hear a single word about tonight. Take a look,” Clinton tweeted.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/05/clinton-again-blames-misogyny-and-sexism-for-what-happened-in-2016.html
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Yamcha on February 05, 2018, 03:42:56 PM
She becomes a bigger loser by the month:

Clinton again blames 'misogyny and sexism' for 'what happened' in 2016
By Brooke Singman   | Fox News


Hillary Clinton on Monday returned to blaming “misogyny” and “sexism” for contributing to her 2016 election loss, during a Washington appearance that followed a critical report on how she handled sexual harassment allegations during her 2008 campaign.

Clinton presented the “Human Rights Awards” Monday at Georgetown University, where she sits as honorary founding chair of the Georgetown Institute for Women, Peace and Security.

Clinton spoke about the importance of female leadership in advancing human rights, justice and peace, and went on to discuss the 2016 election during a panel segment.

“Any of you who’ve read my book about 'what happened' know that I think misogyny and sexism was part of that campaign—it was one of the contributing factors,” Clinton said. “Some of it was old-fashioned sexism and the refusal to accept the equality of women, and certainly the equality of women’s leadership.”

Clinton told the audience that the way forward for women’s equality was “through the ballot box.”

“Certainly, voting remains the principal way that every individual can express an opinion,” Clinton said. “And anyone who chooses not to vote, basically leaves that opinion to others and perhaps don’t hold your values.”

Clinton faces mounting criticism for not firing Burns Strider, a top aide to Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign who was accused of sexual misconduct by a young woman on the staff; reaction and analysis from Hugo Gurdon, editorial director at The Washington Examiner.
Video
Hillary Clinton attempts to explain why she didn't fire aide

In her memoir, “What Happened,” which was first released in September, Clinton faulted a range of factors for her loss–like voter ID laws, “Those Damn Emails,” the “unprecedented intervention in our election” by former FBI director James Comey, and the “audacious warfare waged from the Kremlin.”

Clinton also criticized women who did not vote but supported the Women’s March on Jan. 21, 2017. In her book, she called that day “bittersweet.”

Clinton, though, has come under fire in recent days over a New York Times report that during her 2008 presidential run, she helped protect her faith adviser, Burns Strider, after claims he sexually harassed a female campaign staffer.

HILLARY CLINTON, MOMENTS BEFORE STATE OF THE UNION, EXPLAINS WHY SHE DIDN'T FIRE CAMPAIGN ADVISER

Burns Strider HRC
Clinton '08 faith adviser, Burns Strider, allegedly harassed a Clinton campaign staffer.  (Burns Strider Twitter)
Clinton’s then-campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle recommended Strider be fired, but Clinton ignored the advice. Strider instead was ordered to receive counseling and lost several weeks of pay. The young woman was shifted to a new role.

HILLARY CLINTON SLAMMED FOR NO-APOLOGY RESPONSE TO HARASSMENT STORY

Clinton’s initial response to the story -- in which she said she was heartened that the female aide was "heard" but did not apologize -- was widely criticized.

But on the night of President Trump’s first official State of the Union, just minutes before he began his address, Clinton posted a lengthy response to the alleged sexual misconduct on her Facebook page.

“The short answer is this: If I had to do it again, I wouldn’t,” she wrote, noting that she believes in “second chances” and didn’t want to completely terminate his employment.

In a political shot at Trump for not discussing sexual harassment during his State of the Union speech, Clinton teased her Facebook post again. 

“I wrote a Facebook post about a decision I made 10 years ago, what’s changed, & on an issue you didn’t hear a single word about tonight. Take a look,” Clinton tweeted.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/05/clinton-again-blames-misogyny-and-sexism-for-what-happened-in-2016.html

AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on February 05, 2018, 03:48:05 PM
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

lol  ;D
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on March 13, 2018, 09:59:25 AM
Over a year later and she is an even bigger loser.

Hillary Unloads On Middle America, Says ‘Backwards’ Trump Voters Hate Black People And Women
Hillary Clinton recently insulted Americans living in the middle of the country who voted for Donald Trump at an event in India, saying they were 'backward.'
MARCH 12, 2018
By The Federalist Staff

Hillary Clinton insulted Americans living in the middle of the country who voted for Donald Trump at an event in India on Monday, saying they were “backward.”

“If you look at the map of the United States, there’s all that red in the middle where Trump won,” Clinton said.

“I won the places that are optimistic, diverse, dynamic, moving forward,” she said. “And his whole campaign, ‘Make America Great Again,’ was looking backwards.”
 
RNC Research

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Bitter Hillary Clinton trashes America’s Heartland, calls states that didn’t vote for her “backwards”


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“‘You know you didn’t like black people getting rights,” Clinton said. “You don’t like women getting jobs. You don’t like seeing that Indian American succeeding more than you.”

And then, pretending to be Donald Trump, “Whatever your problem is, I’m going to solve it.”

This isn’t the first time she’s insulted Trump supporters, in 2016, she called her opponents supporters “deplorables,” a comment that has dogged her since.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/12/hillary-unloads-backwards-trump-voters-hate-black-people-and-women/
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: polychronopolous on March 13, 2018, 10:19:12 AM
Over a year later and she is an even bigger loser.

Hillary Unloads On Middle America, Says ‘Backwards’ Trump Voters Hate Black People And Women
Hillary Clinton recently insulted Americans living in the middle of the country who voted for Donald Trump at an event in India, saying they were 'backward.'
MARCH 12, 2018
By The Federalist Staff

Hillary Clinton insulted Americans living in the middle of the country who voted for Donald Trump at an event in India on Monday, saying they were “backward.”

“If you look at the map of the United States, there’s all that red in the middle where Trump won,” Clinton said.

“I won the places that are optimistic, diverse, dynamic, moving forward,” she said. “And his whole campaign, ‘Make America Great Again,’ was looking backwards.”
 
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“‘You know you didn’t like black people getting rights,” Clinton said. “You don’t like women getting jobs. You don’t like seeing that Indian American succeeding more than you.”

And then, pretending to be Donald Trump, “Whatever your problem is, I’m going to solve it.”

This isn’t the first time she’s insulted Trump supporters, in 2016, she called her opponents supporters “deplorables,” a comment that has dogged her since.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/12/hillary-unloads-backwards-trump-voters-hate-black-people-and-women/

Just incredible.

What a massive bullet we missed that that evil witch. Thank God.
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on March 13, 2018, 10:34:41 AM
Just incredible.

What a massive bullet we missed that that evil witch. Thank God.

Right?  Completely agree. 
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Board_SHERIF on March 13, 2018, 10:40:51 AM
Winners = Patriots with vision and see the future of shitskins as no future
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on May 15, 2018, 11:14:46 AM
She has surpassed Al Gore as the biggest loser in modern day politics. 

Cal Thomas: Hillary Clinton and the bitterness tour
Cal Thomas By Cal Thomas   | Fox News

Democratic presidential nominee says declaring herself a capitalist during 2016 primaries 'probably' hurt her with voters; reaction and analysis on 'The Five.'

When you hear “world tour” you usually think of superstars performing concerts in various cities for adoring fans. Not so with the presidentially deprived, entitlement-driven Hillary Clinton.

Last week, Hillary Clinton came to Melbourne, Australia’s second largest city, and to Sydney, its largest, with a huge chip on her shoulder. The chip has been there since the 2016 election and seems to be growing larger with every appearance.

As with almost everything else the Clintons do, it cost to hear her bitterness. Those who went to hear Clinton speak, more than 5,000 people, paid between $200 and $500 Australian dollars (about $15 to $380 US). What they heard was criticism of President Trump and his foreign and domestic policies. Not that long ago, Americans made an effort to stop “partisan politics at the water’s edge,” but no more. Especially with some Democratic politicians who seem to believe that government belongs to them and when Republicans win an election it was somehow stolen from its rightful owners.

Interviewed by former liberal Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard, Hillary Clinton eventually got to what she believes is the real reason she lost to Donald Trump. It was misogynistic men and women who voted the way their husbands told them to that prevented her from making history, or if you prefer, herstory.

Hillary Clinton was at it even before the event began by tweeting that President Trump’s withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal was a “big mistake” that actually makes the U.S. less safe. As if America would be safer by trusting the biggest sponsor of terrorism in the world to live up to an agreement when Iran’s religious and political leaders regularly speak of their commitment to destroy us (and Israel, too).

In his account of her appearance, Chip Le Grand of The Australian newspaper writes that while Hillary Clinton was “at times disarmingly honest (that seemed to be a first), warm, funny and optimistic,” she also appeared “self-serving and sad.”

What do new contributors to the Clinton Foundation hope to get in return for their donations? More bitterness, perhaps? Very sad.

Like a boxer who doesn’t know when to leave the ring, Hillary Clinton is a two-time political loser who hasn’t gotten the message that she is unlikeable and unelectable. She would do herself and the country (not to mention the Democratic Party) a favor by retiring and leaving the scene of her political accident.

There is still money to be made, however, and to the Clintons money is their catnip.

The Wall Street Journal reported last Friday: “…it’s Clinton fundraising season. This has been true of every season of every year since the late 1970s. But this is a particularly important moment because of a major event that is now less than two weeks away. Last month Axios reported: ‘Longtime Clinton supporters last week received an invitation offering access to the family (the green invitation features photos of Bill, Hillary and Chelsea) at a Clinton Foundation benefit on May 24 in New York, at prices ranging from $2,500 (”Friend”) for cocktail party and dinner, up to $100,000 (”Chair”) for “Leadership Reception for two, a premium table of ten, program recognition as Gala Chair and invitations to the Clinton Foundation Annual Briefing.’”

The now defunct Clinton Global Initiative (which not surprisingly stopped receiving large donations after Hillary Clinton’s defeat) spent a lot of donor money on a large staff, travel and “miscellaneous” expenses. What do new contributors to the Clinton Foundation hope to get in return for their donations? More bitterness, perhaps?

Very sad.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/05/15/cal-thomas-hillary-clinton-and-bitterness-tour.html
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on May 07, 2019, 11:07:15 AM
Still a loser.

Hillary Clinton: You Can Run The Best Campaign And "Have The Election Stolen From You"

Posted By Ian Schwartz
On Date May 6, 2019

Hillary Clinton said the 2016 presidential election was "stolen" from her at an 'Evening with the Clintons' tour event with her husband former President Bill Clinton on Saturday. Clinton shared she has been telling 2020 candidates who have sought her guidance that you may run the best campaign and you even be the party's nominee, but you can still "have the election stolen from you."

"I think it's also critical to understand that, as I've been telling candidates who have come to see me, you can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you," Clinton said Saturday in Los Angeles.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/05/06/hillary_clinton_you_can_run_the_best_campaign_and_have_the_election_stolen_from_you.html
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Skeletor on May 07, 2019, 11:27:05 AM
Still a loser.

Hillary Clinton: You Can Run The Best Campaign And "Have The Election Stolen From You"

Posted By Ian Schwartz
On Date May 6, 2019

Hillary Clinton said the 2016 presidential election was "stolen" from her at an 'Evening with the Clintons' tour event with her husband former President Bill Clinton on Saturday. Clinton shared she has been telling 2020 candidates who have sought her guidance that you may run the best campaign and you even be the party's nominee, but you can still "have the election stolen from you."

"I think it's also critical to understand that, as I've been telling candidates who have come to see me, you can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you," Clinton said Saturday in Los Angeles.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/05/06/hillary_clinton_you_can_run_the_best_campaign_and_have_the_election_stolen_from_you.html

What a sore loser. Still arrogant, out of touch with reality and incapable of realizing how many people found her abhorrent.

(https://i.imgflip.com/1vsyxx.jpg?a432408)
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on May 07, 2019, 01:45:20 PM
What a sore loser. Still arrogant, out of touch with reality and incapable of realizing how many people found her abhorrent.

(https://i.imgflip.com/1vsyxx.jpg?a432408)

That picture is accurate.  lol
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: IroNat on May 07, 2019, 02:03:29 PM
She has to be lots of fun at home.
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on September 27, 2019, 10:58:46 AM
Hillary Rodham Clinton: Trump is a "corrupt human tornado"
Last Updated Sep 26, 2019

Former Secretary of State and Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton calls President Trump a "threat" to the country's standing in the world and a "corrupt human tornado," in an interview with Jane Pauley for "CBS Sunday Morning" to be broadcast September 29.

In a wide-ranging interview with Clinton and her daughter, Chelsea, about their new book, Clinton weighs in on talk of impeaching President Trump; the potential of the president's reelection; her loss in the 2016 election; and her life today.

Speaking to Pauley earlier this week, just hours before House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced her call for an impeachment inquiry into Mr. Trump, Clinton also suggested there should be an inquiry into the president's actions.

"My view is that, given the latest revelation, which is such a blatant effort to use his presidential position to advance his personal and political interests, there should be an impeachment inquiry opened," Clinton said. "And I think, sadly, there are a number of grounds. But this one is incredibly troubling.

"The most outrageously false things were said about me. And unfortunately, enough people believed them. So, this is an effort to sow these falsehoods against [Vice President Joe] Biden. And I don't care if you're for the [Democrats] or you're a Republican, when the president of the United States, who has taken an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, uses his position to in effect extort a foreign government for his political purposes. I think that is very much what the founders worried about in 'high crimes and misdemeanors.'"

Will it be harder for a woman to be elected president now? Pauley asked Clinton.

"Well, I hope not, and I don't think so — because the objective is to field whoever is the strongest candidate to defeat Donald Trump," Clinton replied. "Because Donald Trump right now poses a direct threat, a clear and present danger to the institutions of our government, to the rule of law, to our standing in the world."

Clinton also tells Pauley she doesn't believe that Trump will be re-elected for a second term.

"Look, there were many funny things that happened in my election that will not happen again," she said. "And I'm hoping that both the public and press understand the way Trump plays the game."

Asked whether she gets angry that none of the current candidates for president mentions her name on the campaign trail, and that President Trump continues to say she should be "locked up," Clinton says no.

"No, it doesn't kill me because he knows he's an illegitimate president. I believe he understands that the many varying tactics they used – from voter suppression and voter purging to hacking to the false stories — he knows that there were just a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out like it did," she said.

"You know, Jane, it was like applying for a job and getting 66 million letters of recommendation and losing to a corrupt human tornado," Clinton added. "And so, I know that he knows that this wasn't on the level. I don't know that we'll ever know what happened."

Chelsea Clinton and Hillary Rodham Clinton have co-authored "The Book of Gutsy Women," one of whose subjects is tennis great Billie Jean King, whose tennis racquet they show to "Sunday Morning' host Jane Pauley.   CBS NEWS
Clinton and her daughter have written a new book called "The Book of Gutsy Women," which highlights the lives of women in history who have made a difference, ranging from swimmer Diana Nyad to Harriet Tubman. (It was published by Simon & Schuster, a division of CBS.)

Clinton and her daughter talk with Pauley about the book and the women they chose to highlight, as well as the former presidential candidate's life today.

"I answer that question by saying, personally, I'm doing well, and having my grandchildren and especially my new two-month-old grandson has been just a gift beyond measure," Clinton said. "Personally, I feel blessed. I feel good.

"But I can't deny that a big part of me cares deeply about what's happening in the country, and what I fear is the damage that's being done: The damage being done to our future, the damage being done to our values, our institutions. So, I think about it a lot, and try to think of ways that I can help those who are on the front lines of the fight."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-rodham-clinton-trump-is-a-corrupt-human-tornado/
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on October 02, 2019, 05:01:29 PM
Hillary Clinton slams 'witch hunt' launched under Trump of old State Department emails
By Andrew Blake - The Washington Times - Wednesday, October 2, 2019

Hillary Clinton accused the Trump administration Tuesday of making her the target of a “witch hunt” by ramping up a probe into emails sent during her stint as secretary of state.

Mrs. Clinton, President Trump’s former political rival, used the phrase — an idiom uttered ad nauseam by Mr. Trump to describe investigations into his own administration — in response to being asked about recent news reporting indicating the State Department has intensified an investigation into emails she sent and received while leading the agency.

“It’s a witch hunt. And it’s a real one, unlike the kind of things that Trump talks about,” Mrs. Clinton told NowThis media outlet.

. . .

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/2/hillary-clinton-slams-witch-hunt-launched-under-tr/
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: IroNat on October 03, 2019, 03:53:59 AM
It's definitely a witch hunt and she's the witch.
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on August 31, 2021, 02:54:31 PM
Losers:

13 American patriots in Afghanistan.

Service dogs left behind. 

Afghan allies left behind. 
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Moontrane on August 31, 2021, 04:07:03 PM
Losers:

13 American patriots in Afghanistan.

Service dogs left behind. 

Afghan allies left behind.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-IxCGsXMAEVCEt?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on August 31, 2021, 05:14:52 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-IxCGsXMAEVCEt?format=jpg&name=large)

 :-\
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Moontrane on September 01, 2021, 12:40:04 AM
 :-[
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 01, 2021, 12:46:05 AM
Losers:

13 American patriots in Afghanistan.

Service dogs left behind. 

Afghan allies left behind.


Exchange BoB Straw/Lurker,Howard & funk41 for those dogs !.

Only the motha fuck.... would left dogs behind  >:(.
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 01, 2021, 04:01:13 PM
hahahahaha  Service dogs huh?  Left behind you say?  Naw, just another lie that you morons actually fell for. 

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=did+american+leave+service+dogs+behind+in+afghan

Cue in the whining and excuse making now. 
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on September 01, 2021, 04:08:28 PM
hahahahaha  Service dogs huh?  Left behind you say?  Naw, just another lie that you morons actually fell for. 

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=did+american+leave+service+dogs+behind+in+afghan

Cue in the whining and excuse making now.

Did you read any of the articles in the link you posted?  They were service dogs.  They belonged to contractors, not the military, but they worked with the military.  And they were left at the airport. 

And why do you think this is funny? 
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 01, 2021, 04:36:23 PM
Did you read any of the articles in the link you posted?  They were service dogs.  They belonged to contractors, not the military, but they worked with the military.  And they were left at the airport. 

And why do you think this is funny?

I asked in the other thread if you could post a link.  I don't see anything about contractor's service dogs.   What I did see was :

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"Photos circulating online were animals under the care of the Kabul Small Animal Rescue, not dogs under the care of the U.S. military," Eric Pahon, a spokesperson for the Defense Department.  The Defense Department cited "custom regulations" as an obstacle in evacuating "stray dogs" from Afghanistan.

A previous post from Kabul Small Animal Rescue described the animals as "dogs and cats left behind as people flee" in Kabul. The group never described the animals as being service animals.

"All our working dogs left with their handlers. We would not leave them behind," Pahon said. "To suggest otherwise is ridiculous."
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And yes I do think it is funny that Trumpturds seize onto anything and everything they come across to whine about whether it is true or not.
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on September 01, 2021, 04:56:17 PM
I asked in the other thread if you could post a link.  I don't see anything about contractor's service dogs.   What I did see was :

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"Photos circulating online were animals under the care of the Kabul Small Animal Rescue, not dogs under the care of the U.S. military," Eric Pahon, a spokesperson for the Defense Department.  The Defense Department cited "custom regulations" as an obstacle in evacuating "stray dogs" from Afghanistan.

A previous post from Kabul Small Animal Rescue described the animals as "dogs and cats left behind as people flee" in Kabul. The group never described the animals as being service animals.

"All our working dogs left with their handlers. We would not leave them behind," Pahon said. "To suggest otherwise is ridiculous."
---

And yes I do think it is funny that Trumpturds seize onto anything and everything they come across to whine about whether it is true or not.

I posted the link and quote in the other thread.  I don't think there is anything funny about this entire situation. 
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 01, 2021, 05:03:06 PM
I posted the link and quote in the other thread.  I don't think there is anything funny about this entire situation.

I didn't say the situation was funny.  I said trumpturds trying to latch onto anything they can find - even untrue - to keep whining over is funny.
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2021, 05:17:15 PM
I didn't say the situation was funny.  I said trumpturds trying to latch onto anything they can find - even untrue - to keep whining over is funny.

Literally no one but you are straw are defending Biden on this.
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 01, 2021, 05:32:37 PM
Literally no one but you are straw are defending Biden on this.

I am not defending anyone.  I am pointing out the source material being posted is incorrect.

But then on the other hand, one would expect the entire country would be happy our troops are coming home.  Well, everyone but Trumpturds that is.   Are you saying you would rather keep our troops over there in danger?
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 01, 2021, 05:36:04 PM
I am not defending anyone.  I am pointing out the source material being posted is incorrect.

But then on the other hand, one would expect the entire country would be happy our troops are coming home.  Well, everyone but Trumpturds that is.   Are you saying you would rather keep our troops over there in danger?

We had a tiny force there that were not engaged in battle.  We have more troops in many other parts of the world currently.   It’s not like our soldiers were slingling lead daily lately.  Everyone agreed that we needed to pull away.   The issue was the gross incompetence and dereliction of duty
Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: LurkerNoMore on September 01, 2021, 06:33:40 PM
We had a tiny force there that were not engaged in battle.  We have more troops in many other parts of the world currently.   It’s not like our soldiers were slingling lead daily lately. Everyone agreed that we needed to pull away.   The issue was the gross incompetence and dereliction of duty

That right there says it all.  We don't need to be there.  Peacekeeping and police state enforcement is not our job.  Why isn't the UN doing it?  Isn't that what they are for?

And  you can't complain with how Biden did it because :

1 - Trumpy says it he started the process and it couldn't be stopped.
“I started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They couldn’t stop the process. 21 years is enough. Don’t we think? 21 years. They couldn’t stop the process. They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop.”  --Donald Trump, June 21st this year, at a rally in Ohio. 

2- You don't like Biden's withdrawal plan, but you liked Trumpy's?
Published on his website, the statement by the former US president read: “First you bring out all of the American citizens. Then you bring out ALL equipment. Then you bomb the bases into smithereens—AND THEN YOU BRING OUT THE MILITARY. You don’t do it in reverse order like Biden and our woke Generals did.”  “No chaos, no death—they wouldn’t even know we left!” the statement by Mr Trump read.

Trumpy wanted to blow up the military bases and after that bring the troops out. WTF?  Where was they going to be staying while the bases were being "bombed to smithereens?"  Holiday Inn?   You would want our troops over there sitting somewhere after Trumpy blew up secure and safe bases?

Title: Re: Winners and Losers
Post by: Dos Equis on September 01, 2021, 07:50:56 PM
That right there says it all.  We don't need to be there.  Peacekeeping and police state enforcement is not our job.  Why isn't the UN doing it?  Isn't that what they are for?

And  you can't complain with how Biden did it because :

1 - Trumpy says it he started the process and it couldn't be stopped.
“I started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They couldn’t stop the process. 21 years is enough. Don’t we think? 21 years. They couldn’t stop the process. They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop.”  --Donald Trump, June 21st this year, at a rally in Ohio. 

2- You don't like Biden's withdrawal plan, but you liked Trumpy's?
Published on his website, the statement by the former US president read: “First you bring out all of the American citizens. Then you bring out ALL equipment. Then you bomb the bases into smithereens—AND THEN YOU BRING OUT THE MILITARY. You don’t do it in reverse order like Biden and our woke Generals did.”  “No chaos, no death—they wouldn’t even know we left!” the statement by Mr Trump read.

Trumpy wanted to blow up the military bases and after that bring the troops out. WTF?  Where was they going to be staying while the bases were being "bombed to smithereens?"  Holiday Inn?   You would want our troops over there sitting somewhere after Trumpy blew up secure and safe bases?

There is no way to reasonably put lipstick on this pig.  The withdrawal was a massive failure.  Just consider this one fact:  we pulled out 2500 noncombat troops and had to immediately replace them with almost 7000 combat troops.  That alone tells you how screwed up this was. 

Then factor in leaving our equipment behind, not telling our allies, giving up the airbase before getting our people out, and leaving our service members as sitting ducks at the airfield by not letting them set up a safe perimeter outside of the airfield.  That's why suicide bombers were able to drive right up to the airfield and blow those kids up.  There is no defending this.  Or blaming Trump or anyone else.