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Title: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: loco on November 16, 2016, 10:20:33 AM
Stephen Hawking believes that humanity has less than a thousand years on Earth before a mass extinction occurs, the leading theoretical physicist said during a speech Tuesday at Oxford University Union, U.K.

According to Hawking, the only way humans can avoid the possibility of extinction was to find another planet to inhabit.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/stephen-hawking-puts-expiry-date-103124525.html
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Skeeter on November 16, 2016, 10:24:51 AM
Stephen Hawking believes that humanity has less than a thousand years on Earth before a mass extinction occurs, the leading theoretical physicist said during a speech Tuesday at Oxford University Union, U.K.

According to Hawking, the only way humans can avoid the possibility of extinction was to find another planet to inhabit.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/stephen-hawking-puts-expiry-date-103124525.html

Not soon enough.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: MAXX on November 16, 2016, 10:29:39 AM
hes just old and bitter, tired of life and bordering on dementia soon

no reason to take his doomsday prophecy seriously
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Yamcha on November 16, 2016, 10:29:47 AM
(http://www.designboom.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/7d527134335649.56cdd96ba10eb.gif)
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 16, 2016, 10:30:13 AM
Kinda puts a damper on my hopes of living past 1,040.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: mass243 on November 16, 2016, 10:40:30 AM

Quite long still to go. 
We are not reproducing anymore on sustainable level.

I guess Africans and middle east people are going to keep our specie alive for the next 1000 years.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: The_Punisher on November 16, 2016, 10:43:31 AM
has stephen put an expiration date on himself yet?
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Erik C on November 16, 2016, 10:46:15 AM
Quite long still to go. 
We are not reproducing anymore on sustainable level.

I guess Africans and middle east people are going to keep our specie alive for the next 1000 years.

That only gives Africans, and middle east "people," 1000 years to evolve into our species.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Simple Simon on November 16, 2016, 10:48:17 AM
i think he means we will all be monkeys again...
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: residue on November 16, 2016, 11:02:04 AM
i love when guys think they know more than jesus.

Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Erik C on November 16, 2016, 11:20:28 AM
i love when guys think they know more than jesus.

Anyone who thinks jesus was smart, or even real, is stupid.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on November 16, 2016, 11:21:37 AM
Obviously he wrote this theory before Trump became president.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: ratherbebig on November 16, 2016, 11:24:37 AM
i blame steroids.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Coffeed on November 16, 2016, 11:35:54 AM
Dudes probably just mad he could never hit 300 lbs stage-ready.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: ratherbebig on November 16, 2016, 11:40:30 AM
if he's so smart how come he never was a bodybuilder?
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Croatch on November 16, 2016, 11:48:52 AM
Anyone who thinks jesus was smart, or even real, is stupid.
Yes.  Jesus is a fictional character.  If you believe otherwise, see Easter bunny and Santa Claus.  The only difference is...your parents never told you God didn't exist.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: ratherbebig on November 16, 2016, 11:49:14 AM


In the year 2525
If man is still alive
If woman can survive
They may find
In the year 3535
Ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lies
Everything you think, do, and say
Is in the pill you took today

In the year 4545
Ain't gonna need your teeth, won't need your eyes
You won't find a thing to chew
Nobody's gonna look at you

In the year 5555
Your arms are hanging limp at your sides
Your legs got nothing to do
Some machine is doing that for you

In the year 6565
Ain't gonna need no husband, won't need no wife
You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From the bottom of a long glass tube' Whoooa

In the year 7510
If God's a-comin' he ought to make it by then
Maybe he'll look around himself and say
Guess it's time for the Judgement day

In the year 8510
God is gonna shake his mighty head then
He'll either say I'm pleased where man has been
Or tear it down and start again

In the year 9595
I'm kinda wondering if man is gonna be alive
He's taken everything this old earth can give
And he ain't put back nothing

Now it's been 10, 000 years
Man has cried a billion tears
For what he never knew
Now man's reign is through
But through eternal night
The twinkling of starlight
So very far away
Maybe it's only yesterday
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Rambone on November 16, 2016, 01:03:11 PM
Better leg development than Levrone and wider than Heath
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Pray_4_War on November 16, 2016, 01:12:56 PM
OK.  I'm going to get to work on my private space shuttle then.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Kwon on November 16, 2016, 01:26:38 PM
i love when guys think they know more than jesus.



LOL what, you think your mexican gardener knows more than THE Stephen Hawking???
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: ratherbebig on November 16, 2016, 01:28:39 PM
stephen hawk king

the irony

the hawk king cannot fly



Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Kwon on November 16, 2016, 01:30:28 PM
stephen hawk king

the irony

the hawk king cannot fly





He can, as seen here.


(http://www.designboom.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/7d527134335649.56cdd96ba10eb.gif)
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Yamcha on November 16, 2016, 01:32:49 PM
He can, as seen here.


(http://www.designboom.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/7d527134335649.56cdd96ba10eb.gif)

How does he does it?
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Kwon on November 16, 2016, 01:49:12 PM
The Pooh Parr-Way
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 16, 2016, 02:32:12 PM
1000 years to get to another planet? If technology doesn't slow down, I'd imagine it could be accomplished in less than 100 years if it's not already been done and we just don't know about it...
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 16, 2016, 02:34:41 PM
Would be funny if Russia hacked into his voice recorder and made him say a bunch of fucked up shit.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: ratherbebig on November 16, 2016, 02:50:28 PM
sounds to me like he's saying fucked up shit already
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 16, 2016, 04:12:34 PM
sounds to me like he's saying fucked up shit already

Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: moonwatcher on November 16, 2016, 04:17:46 PM
(https://s11.postimg.org/66hssc6z7/555.jpg)
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: cart@@n on November 16, 2016, 04:44:33 PM
Stephen makes his first appearance at 4:40:
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 16, 2016, 05:40:14 PM


In the year 2525
If man is still alive
If woman can survive
They may find
In the year 3535
Ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lies
Everything you think, do, and say
Is in the pill you took today

In the year 4545
Ain't gonna need your teeth, won't need your eyes
You won't find a thing to chew
Nobody's gonna look at you

In the year 5555
Your arms are hanging limp at your sides
Your legs got nothing to do
Some machine is doing that for you

In the year 6565
Ain't gonna need no husband, won't need no wife
You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From the bottom of a long glass tube' Whoooa

In the year 7510
If God's a-comin' he ought to make it by then
Maybe he'll look around himself and say
Guess it's time for the Judgement day

In the year 8510
God is gonna shake his mighty head then
He'll either say I'm pleased where man has been
Or tear it down and start again

In the year 9595
I'm kinda wondering if man is gonna be alive
He's taken everything this old earth can give
And he ain't put back nothing

Now it's been 10, 000 years
Man has cried a billion tears
For what he never knew
Now man's reign is through
But through eternal night
The twinkling of starlight
So very far away
Maybe it's only yesterday

The lip syncing is always so terrible on these old shows. Good song nevertheless.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: hench on November 16, 2016, 06:21:56 PM
Yea, crazy, the guy has defied motor neurone disease, diagnosed at 21 and not expected to live to 25. Maybe he'll be around for the extinction..

has stephen put an expiration date on himself yet?
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Desolate on November 16, 2016, 07:23:13 PM
One of the things he says is that humans shouldn't be trying to contact life on other planets.

Like I've always said, he believes we shouldn't just assume all intelligent life out there will always be friendly.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Mr Anabolic on November 16, 2016, 07:55:26 PM
1000 years to get to another planet? If technology doesn't slow down, I'd imagine it could be accomplished in less than 100 years if it's not already been done and we just don't know about it...

Technology is not there.  Speed of light travel will be necessary... which IMO is not attainable during the next 1000 years, perhaps 10,000.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 16, 2016, 08:02:38 PM
Technology is not there.  Speed of light travel will be necessary... which IMO is not attainable during the next 1000 years, perhaps 10,000.

Aren't they working on that at CERN?
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Erik C on November 16, 2016, 08:15:42 PM
Who needs a new planet? Planetary living is for primitives. Humans require a future the turns us into a space faring race, traveling the Universe in gigantic artificial structures.

Planets are unreliable dwelling places, beset by all kinds of problems, such as volcanoes, tidal waves, earthquakes, diseases. Imagine a tectonic plate flipping over! That would ruin your next 50 thousands years. How about a near miss by a large space object, that flips the planet upside down, or increases the rotation speed of the planet, creating a super hurricane around the Equator and sucking the atmosphere away from the polar regions. To say nothing of extinction events from ordinary sized meteors, asteroids, and comets striking the planet.

Trying to find another planet to live on, is short sighted thinking.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 16, 2016, 08:17:10 PM
Aren't they working on that at CERN?


They are working on creating an inter-dimensional black hole at CERN. Not sure they know what to do when it opens up but that is another problem.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 16, 2016, 08:19:28 PM
Who needs a new planet? Planetary living is for primitives. Humans require a future the turns us into a space faring race, traveling the Universe in gigantic artificial structures.

Planets are unreliable dwelling places, beset by all kinds of problems, such as volcanoes, tidal waves, earthquakes, diseases. Imagine a tectonic plate flipping over! That would ruin your next 50 thousands years. How about a near miss by a large space object, that flips the planet upside down, or increases the rotation speed of the planet, creating a super hurricane around the Equator and sucking the atmosphere away from the polar regions. To say nothing of extinction events from ordinary sized meteors, asteroids, and comets striking the planet.

Trying to find another planet to live on, is short sighted thinking.



Except the need for raw materials from planets. What you are talking about requires strict population control, eugenics, etc.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Justicio on November 16, 2016, 08:27:14 PM
Who needs a new planet? Planetary living is for primitives. Humans require a future the turns us into a space faring race, traveling the Universe in gigantic artificial structures.

Planets are unreliable dwelling places, beset by all kinds of problems, such as volcanoes, tidal waves, earthquakes, diseases. Imagine a tectonic plate flipping over! That would ruin your next 50 thousands years. How about a near miss by a large space object, that flips the planet upside down, or increases the rotation speed of the planet, creating a super hurricane around the Equator and sucking the atmosphere away from the polar regions. To say nothing of extinction events from ordinary sized meteors, asteroids, and comets striking the planet.

Trying to find another planet to live on, is short sighted thinking.
I suggest you get in contact with NASA so they may be enlightened by your ideas
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Erik C on November 16, 2016, 08:28:41 PM


Except the need for raw materials from planets. What you are talking about requires strict population control, eugenics, etc.

Everything we need is floating around in space. Eugenics is good. As long as you only allow superior people to breed, then huge populations are not only possible, but necessary, for humanity to branch out, and conquer the Universe.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: hench on November 17, 2016, 01:16:40 AM
So basically moonraker
Everything we need is floating around in space. Eugenics is good. As long as you only allow superior people to breed, then huge populations are not only possible, but necessary, for humanity to branch out, and conquer the Universe.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: ratherbebig on November 17, 2016, 01:24:11 AM
Technology is not there.  Speed of light travel will be necessary... which IMO is not attainable during the next 1000 years, perhaps 10,000.

"IMO"

when it comes to space travel, always go to Mr Anabolic for advice in the matter!
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Darren Avey on November 17, 2016, 01:28:08 AM
1000 years? Yeh right, we ll have all been blown to Allah by then.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Mitch on November 17, 2016, 01:42:26 AM
How does he does it?
he do.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: FREAKgeek on November 17, 2016, 02:29:27 AM
1000 years to get to another planet? If technology doesn't slow down, I'd imagine it could be accomplished in less than 100 years if it's not already been done and we just don't know about it...

No frigging way in 100 years.

Anyone who thinks jesus was smart, or even real, is stupid.

Jesus is real because his followers say so. Cased closed.  :P
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: FREAKgeek on November 17, 2016, 02:30:35 AM
hes just old and bitter, tired of life and bordering on dementia soon

no reason to take his doomsday prophecy seriously

They laughed at the idea of 9-11. There are plenty of dindus out there who would be happy to do it.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: rocco-x on November 17, 2016, 05:01:56 AM
Hawking is the Ironsides of peace.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Kwon on November 17, 2016, 11:04:03 AM
sounds to me like he's saying fucked up shit already

Would be funny if Prussia hacked into his voice recorder and made him say a bunch of fucked up shit.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 17, 2016, 11:06:40 AM
Everything we need is floating around in space. Eugenics is good. As long as you only allow superior people to breed, then huge populations are not only possible, but necessary, for humanity to branch out, and conquer the Universe.



Billions of people. Your DNA line ain't gonna be one of them.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Erik C on November 17, 2016, 11:27:26 AM
Billions of people. Your DNA line ain't gonna be IN JUST one of them.
No, it will be in quite a great number of them.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Kwon on November 17, 2016, 12:28:49 PM
1000 years? Yeh right, we ll have all been blown to Allah by then.

500 years max.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: mass243 on November 17, 2016, 12:32:58 PM
One of the things he says is that humans shouldn't be trying to contact life on other planets.

Like I've always said, he believes we shouldn't just assume all intelligent life out there will always be friendly.

It's crazy some people assume they would be friendly.

Just look at us humans. We can't get along with each other. Spaniards beached in America, were greeted by curious locals and immediately started to kill them.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on November 17, 2016, 12:38:49 PM
It's crazy some people assume they would be friendly.

Just look at us humans. We can't get along with each other. Spaniards beached in America, were greeted by curious locals and immediately started to kill them.


Fuck that.  Aliens would come here and see the new hot breed of chicks coming out of High School and give us all high 5s
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Griffith on November 17, 2016, 01:34:50 PM
1000 years? That's quite optimistic.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Kwon on November 17, 2016, 01:42:59 PM
1000 years? That's quite optimistic.

Here's the thing.

The way things are going / progressing right now, if it keeps up in the same speed, it won't be more than 100 years before shit hits the fan.


But maybe it needs to be some Huge happening (that will happen in abt 100 years) that will keep humanity surviving (cleansing of a certain species), or we all just plain die out due to war, famine and natural disasters.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Marty Champions on November 19, 2016, 04:56:35 AM
Fuck that.  Aliens would come here and see the new hot breed of chicks coming out of High School and give us all high 5s
hot highschool girls are humanities only chance
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Rmj11 on November 19, 2016, 08:29:53 AM
Humans had their chance. Humanity is so overrated. Why bother saving it?

Like George Carlin said "Just sit back and enjoy watching the world burn"
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Tapeworm on November 19, 2016, 09:41:03 AM
Humans had their chance. Humanity is so overrated. Why bother saving it?

Like George Carlin said "Just sit back and enjoy watching the world burn"

Whore shit.  You're attributing an invented quote to a dead man.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 19, 2016, 09:30:55 PM
Popular mechanics 110 predictions in 110 years. Says well on a colony on Mars in 60 years...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/a3120/110-predictions-for-the-next-110-years/
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: visualizeperfection on November 19, 2016, 09:40:07 PM
Yes.  Jesus is a fictional character.  If you believe otherwise, see Easter bunny and Santa Claus.  The only difference is...your parents never told you God didn't exist.

LOL!!!


Jesus is documented in history time and time again. I know you have a constant yearning to be edgy and "special", but you do spend a good majority of the time bitching.

Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Big McLargeHuge on November 20, 2016, 02:37:16 AM
"Expiry?"

Who talks like that???
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Griffith on November 20, 2016, 03:00:21 AM
Popular mechanics 110 predictions in 110 years. Says well on a colony on Mars in 60 years...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/a3120/110-predictions-for-the-next-110-years/

Like in the book Red Mars, humans will probably live in cities under domes or underground. Even if they could terraform the planet and have flowing water and vegetation and enough oxygen, it would still be too cold to go out without a spacesuit.
The lower gravity would also physically weaken future generations and perhaps lead to other evolutionary changes.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: local hero on November 20, 2016, 03:03:01 AM
(https://s11.postimg.org/66hssc6z7/555.jpg)

I fucking knew he sang in that song, no one would believe it!
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: FREAKgeek on November 20, 2016, 06:31:10 AM
LOL!!!


Jesus is documented in history time and time again. I know you have a constant yearning to be edgy and "special", but you do spend a good majority of the time bitching.



The legend of Jesus is well documented.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Tapeworm on November 20, 2016, 11:14:56 AM
Popular mechanics 110 predictions in 110 years. Says well on a colony on Mars in 60 years...

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/a3120/110-predictions-for-the-next-110-years/

Classic flying car Jetsons nonsense.

3-d printers in particular are all the rage.  It's a dead end technology.  Materials have properties.  You can't just deposit grain after grain to make anything you want.  It doesn't work that way.

And AI.  ::)  It's not going to happen.  No matter how advanced you make a computer, it just does what it's programmed to do.  It has no mind or will.

Quote
What's to say you can't attach a lifelike visage to an interface fronting the crowdsourced wisdom of the Internet?

Lol.  Answer:

Quote
It took mere hours for the Internet to transform Tay, the teenage AI bot who wants to chat with and learn from millennials, into Tay, the racist and genocidal AI bot who liked to reference Hitler.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Slapper on November 20, 2016, 12:13:38 PM
People are so fucking ignorant they have no idea what is a danger to their existence.

They're constantly looking to the skies looking for the huge asteroid that is going to crash into planet earth, or a plague that is going to run out of control, or UFOs landing on our planet and making mincemeat out of us... Without paying attention to the IMMENSE nuclear weapons inventories around the world, enough to destroy the world 10 times over.

Way to go humanity!
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Ronnie Rep on November 20, 2016, 12:29:55 PM
i love when guys think they know more than jesus.


::)
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 21, 2016, 10:47:52 AM
Classic flying car Jetsons nonsense.

3-d printers in particular are all the rage.  It's a dead end technology.  Materials have properties.  You can't just deposit grain after grain to make anything you want.  It doesn't work that way.

And AI.  ::)  It's not going to happen.  No matter how advanced you make a computer, it just does what it's programmed to do.  It has no mind or will.

Lol.  Answer:


The flying cars thing was when we had next to no technology at all. Now they can put computers on a grain of rice. Technology isn't going to slow down unless there's a nuke reset. It's only going to speed up. Year after year it will speed up faster and faster. The technology is all there. Flying cars is when you needed a computer the size of a large room to play pong...EVerything has changed. In fact, technology has sped up the way we understand time itself.

http://bigthink.com/think-tank/big-idea-technology-grows-exponentially

http://www.sciencealert.com/research-suggests-that-technology-is-speeding-up-our-perception-of-time
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Griffith on November 22, 2016, 04:42:30 AM
If TV phones existed, I could easily live without the internet.

I believe life was better before.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: avxo on November 22, 2016, 05:17:36 AM
And AI.  ::)  It's not going to happen.

Really?


No matter how advanced you make a computer, it just does what it's programmed to do.

Let's start simply: what if the program uses a source of randomness (say, a beta detector placed next to a bowl of table salt)? It's decisions are effectively random.

Now, let's get more complex: what if the program uses neural nets and deep learning techniques, so that it increases its knowledge as time goes on without any intervention from the programmer? Such systems, for example, can be started up completely "blank" and learn to perform a task through trial and error.


It has no mind or will.

Can you define "mind" and "will" for us, sufficiently accurately as to allows us to understand why it's impossible for a computer to possess those things?

Can you explain how your brain differs from a computer?
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on November 22, 2016, 05:22:32 AM
hot highschool girls are humanities only chance

 :D
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: loco on November 22, 2016, 06:54:54 AM
People are so fucking ignorant they have no idea what is a danger to their existence.

They're constantly looking to the skies looking for the huge asteroid that is going to crash into planet earth, or a plague that is going to run out of control, or UFOs landing on our planet and making mincemeat out of us... Without paying attention to the IMMENSE nuclear weapons inventories around the world, enough to destroy the world 10 times over.

Way to go humanity!

The Sun will eventually scorch the earth, then cool down and die.

Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die.  Or, find Jesus.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Tapeworm on November 22, 2016, 08:23:56 AM
Really?

Sure.

Let's start simply: what if the program uses a source of randomness (say, a beta detector placed next to a bowl of table salt)? It's decisions are effectively random.


It's direction is randomly dictated.  They're not decisions.  There was no reflection or judgement on the part of the computer.  It just did what it was told to do, in this case by a particle detector.

Now, let's get more complex: what if the program uses neural nets and deep learning techniques, so that it increases its knowledge as time goes on without any intervention from the programmer? Such systems, for example, can be started up completely "blank" and learn to perform a task through trial and error.

It wouldn't set about 'learning' (I can't anthropomorphize like that w/o the quoties) any task unless directed to do so.  It's just more computation.  The machine's next iteration is dictated by probable outcomes based on past outcomes, as it's directed to do by its program.

Getting improved results by repeated trial and error is the opposite of reasoning to a solution.  The machine will never reason.  There's no conceptualization happening.  There's no understanding of anything taking place. 

Can you define "mind" and "will" for us, sufficiently accurately as to allows us to understand why it's impossible for a computer to possess those things?

Can you explain how your brain differs from a computer?

Not really.  People have argued over these terms for a long long time now.  Doubt I'll be the guy to provide the definitive answer.

My physical brain?  No.  My mind?  Yes.  It is manifest, as evidenced by conscious thought, which may be predicated on the existence of a brain but it's not strictly equivalent.  If you shoot the orchestra then you have stopped the symphony, but have you eradicated the symphony?  I'm not quite hocus pocus lava lamp enough to say we all share in a universal consciousness but, as intellects we possess common traits unique to living beings.  Again, the ability to reason and to reason and act through one's own agency.

So in b4 Frankenstein's creation.  I don't know if you can build a man on a workbench.  I just have a real hard time going all in on materialism.  Like the dude said: Hey, nothing is in this famous 'mind' of yours which is not first in the senses.  And the other dude was all: Except the mind itself.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: FREAKgeek on November 22, 2016, 04:36:33 PM
Classic flying car Jetsons nonsense.

3-d printers in particular are all the rage.  It's a dead end technology.  Materials have properties.  You can't just deposit grain after grain to make anything you want.  It doesn't work that way.

And AI.  ::)  It's not going to happen.  No matter how advanced you make a computer, it just does what it's programmed to do.  It has no mind or will.

Lol.  Answer:


That's not true. There will come a point where you will not be able to tell the difference between a human and a computer. You can say the sophistication or tech isn't there yet. Human brains are nothing more than sophisticated biological computers.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: Tapeworm on November 22, 2016, 04:49:02 PM
That's not true. There will come a point where you will not be able to tell the difference between a human and a computer. You can say the sophistication or tech isn't there yet. Human brains are nothing more than sophisticated biological computers.


Nope.  The computational power of machines already exceeds that of the human brain and the machines still aren't starting any conversations.  There's a qualitative difference between something living and something inert which won't be overcome by moar bytes.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: SF1900 on November 22, 2016, 08:10:58 PM
LOL!!!


Jesus is documented in history time and time again. I know you have a constant yearning to be edgy and "special", but you do spend a good majority of the time bitching.



Yes, Croatch really yearns to "buck the system." He tries REALLY hard not to be a sheeple. He fits in great with the other sheeple who try not to be sheeple. They should all hang out together and try not to be sheeple, while typing on their computers, using their cell phones, and putting their money into major banks.  :D
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: visualizeperfection on November 22, 2016, 10:00:46 PM
Yes, Croatch really yearns to "buck the system." He tries REALLY hard not to be a sheeple. He fits in great with the other sheeple who try not to be sheeple. They should all hang out together and try not to be sheeple, while typing on their computers, using their cell phones, and putting their money into major banks.  :D


Yes, SF!

"Let me spend all day bitching about people and their daily routine, without ever really looking at my existence in the mirror".

His schtick gets very old, would rather listen to Walter Sobchak's unoriginal dick jokes than another Croatch society driven meltdown.
Title: Re: Stephen Hawking Puts An Expiry Date On Humanity
Post by: SF1900 on November 23, 2016, 08:43:54 AM

Yes, SF!

"Let me spend all day bitching about people and their daily routine, without ever really looking at my existence in the mirror".

His schtick gets very old, would rather listen to Walter Sobchak's unoriginal dick jokes than another Croatch society driven meltdown.

In before Croatch states that, of course he uses a computer; he knew I was going to say that  :D :D :D But he finds other ways to buck the system!