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An impressive number of new aircraft will be launching in the next few years. Much of it spurred on by new engines from jet manufacturers. For those on Getbig in the market for a new aircraft here's a list of some notable launches.
Embraer Legacy 450, Legacy 500, E190-E2, E195-E2, E175-E2
Bombarderier Global 8000, Global 7000, CS100, CS300
Cessna Hemisphere, Denali
Gulfstream G500, G600
Honda Jet
Airbus A350-1000, A320neo, A321neo,
Boeing 737 Max, 787-10
Cirrus SF50
Eclipse 550 Canada
Pilatus PC-24
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Great post.
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Boeing 737 max, YES!
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good post
ive been eyeing the Pilatus PC-24
unfortunately its sold out, i will have to wait until 2020
the first production run sold out in two days.
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good post
ive been eyeing the Pilatus PC-24
unfortunately its sold out, i will have to wait until 2020
the first production run sold out in two days.
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You're welcome to mine when I'm on my yacht.
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good post
ive been eyeing the Pilatus PC-24
unfortunately its sold out, i will have to wait until 2020
the first production run sold out in two days.
The PC-24 was designed to be able to take of from short unimproved airstrips.
For its maiden flight from Buochs Airport in Stans in May, the PC-24 was off the ground in just under 600 meters (2,000 ft.). It also has a stall speed of just 81 knots.
Pilatus delightedly announced booking 84 orders in just 36 hr. One of those launch customers is the Royal Flying Doctor Service of Australia, a PC-12 operator that has ordered four jets and took options on another two.
http://aviationweek.com/business-aviation/pilatus-designing-pc-24-do-everything (http://aviationweek.com/business-aviation/pilatus-designing-pc-24-do-everything)
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I know Getbiggers are busy people. For those of you who don't have time to wait at airports or stop for fuel there's the Cessna Hemisphere. It has a cruise speed of mach .90 (690 mph)with a range of 4,500. This rage allow you to fly non stop from the following city pairs:
Chicago to Berlin
Tokyo to Honolulu
New York to Honolulu
London to Beijing
Cessna Hemisphere
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Up until now Cessna didn't have the range or cabin size to compete with the best in the world. This is a big step for them and will allow them to compete head on with Gulfstream and Bombarier.
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Does anyone know what it costs to charter a jet? I get these Departures magazines and they have advertisements for time share jets or multi owner leases. Anyways, it's $50k to sign up and then the cost of flights. When I fly with my family, it's five of us. I wonder at what point it is cheaper to just rent a private jet? Serious question for the more affluent getbiggers.
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I dont know about you guys but I am going to pre order a supersonic private jet they will be on the market in a few years the cost is only 120 million it goes one and half times faster than the speed of sound, normally it take about 7 hours from new york to london but this bad boy will get you there in 3.5 hours, perfect for the busy getbigger.
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For the affluent Getbiggers there's the new Bombardier Global 7000. This aircraft has a range of 7,400 nautical miles and a cruise speed of mach .925 (709 mph). This gives you enough rage to fly non stop from LA to Sydney Australia, so it's perfect for Mel Gibson. This is the best business jet in the world period.
Global 7000 first flight
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Cockpit of Global 7000
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Interior of Global 7000
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For those of you tired of the riff raff in first class on United. Here's the Global 7000 interior. That's what an airplane window should look like.
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About the only plane you'll ACTUALLY find a GetBigger on!!!
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For those of you tired of the riff raff in first class on United. Here's the Global 7000 interior. That's what an airplane window should look like.
Good choice when in a pinch. I like to roll out the falcon for more spacious needs, necessary for solidifying those global changing deals with clients.
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Some nice poverty jets in this thread.
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Does anyone know what it costs to charter a jet? I get these Departures magazines and they have advertisements for time share jets or multi owner leases. Anyways, it's $50k to sign up and then the cost of flights. When I fly with my family, it's five of us. I wonder at what point it is cheaper to just rent a private jet? Serious question for the more affluent getbiggers.
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Legacy 450
(http://corporatejetinvestor.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Embraer-Legacy-450-parked-EBACE-1.jpg)
The Legacy 450 has a range of 2900 nautical miles and a starting price of $16. It fills the gap between the Phenom 300 and the Legacy 600 and will be built in a new facility in Melbourne Florida. Flexjet will be adding both the 450 and 500 to their fleet meaning anyone on Getbig could charter one.
Embraer has rapidly grown its global market share of the business aircraft market from 3% in 2008 to 18% in 2013. The Phenom 300 is currently the best selling business jet in the world. Impressive performance from a Brazilian company.
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Legacy 450 cockpit with fly by wire and Rockwell Collins avionics.
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This video shows how easy the Legacy 450 is to fly and automated flying a modern airplane is.
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The Cessna Denali will compete directly with the Pilatus PC-12. As they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. In this case I would agree with Cessna. Pilatus got it dead on with the PC-12. It's by far the best single engine turbo prop in the world and there's no need to deviate with perfection.
(http://generalaviationnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Denali-v-PC-12.jpg)
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Does anyone know what it costs to charter a jet? I get these Departures magazines and they have advertisements for time share jets or multi owner leases. Anyways, it's $50k to sign up and then the cost of flights. When I fly with my family, it's five of us. I wonder at what point it is cheaper to just rent a private jet? Serious question for the more affluent getbiggers.
http://www.pentastaraviation.com/available-aircraft (http://www.pentastaraviation.com/available-aircraft)
Turbo Prop 6-8 Passengers Up to 1,500 miles $1800-2200 per hour
King Air 200
Light 6-8 Passengers Up To 2,100 miles $2100-2800 per hour
Citation Jet Series
Hawker 400 XP
Learjet 45 / 75
Phenom 300
Mid-Size 7-9 Passengers Up To 2,700 miles $2700-4000 per hour
Citation XL/XLS
Hawker 800XP
Hawker 850XP
Hawker 900XP
Learjet 60 / 60XR
Gulfstream 150
Super Mid-Size 8-9 Passengers Up To 3,600 $3500-4500
Citation Latitude
Challenger 300/350
Citation X / Sovereign
Falcon 50EX
Gulfstream 200 / 280
Legacy 450 / 500
Heavy 9-16 Passengers Up To 4,500 miles $4500-6500 per hour
Challenger 604 / 605
Falcon 2000 EX / LXS
Gulfstream IV / IVSP / 450 / 400
Legacy 600
Ultra Long Range 12-17 Passengers, Up To 7,500 miles, $7000-9000 per hourFalcon 7X
Gulfstream V / 550 / 650
Global 7000
For example, four couples could charter an Embraer Phenom 300 from New York to Miami and back for $6300, or $787 per person. The Legacy 500 would be $1100 per person for six couples. It could be worth it for the unique experience.
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http://www.pentastaraviation.com/available-aircraft (http://www.pentastaraviation.com/available-aircraft)
Turbo Prop 6-8 Passengers Up to 1,500 miles $1800-2200 per hour
King Air 200
Light 6-8 Passengers Up To 2,100 miles $2100-2800 per hour
Citation Jet Series
Hawker 400 XP
Learjet 45 / 75
Phenom 300
Mid-Size 7-9 Passengers Up To 2,700 miles $2700-4000 per hour
Citation XL/XLS
Hawker 800XP
Hawker 850XP
Hawker 900XP
Learjet 60 / 60XR
Gulfstream 150
Super Mid-Size 8-9 Passengers Up To 3,600 $3500-4500
Citation Latitude
Challenger 300/350
Citation X / Sovereign
Falcon 50EX
Gulfstream 200 / 280
Legacy 450 / 500
Heavy 9-16 Passengers Up To 4,500 miles $4500-6500 per hour
Challenger 604 / 605
Falcon 2000 EX / LXS
Gulfstream IV / IVSP / 450 / 400
Legacy 600
Ultra Long Range 12-17 Passengers, Up To 7,500 miles, $7000-9000 per hourFalcon 7X
Gulfstream V / 550 / 650
Global 7000
For example, four couples could charter an Embraer Phenom 300 from New York to Miami and back for $6300, or $787 per person. The Legacy 500 would be $1100 per person for six couples. It could be worth it for the unique experience.
I'm getting ready to head to Europe on Lufthansa. Me and wifey in business class and the kids in economy. It ain't cheap, but the way they cater to you in first/business on transatlantic flights is bad ass. If they did that on the private jets, it may be worth it, as it's not exponentially more to do so according to what information you've provided in your post. Thanks.
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Call me crazy but I've always been obsessed with pc-12, caravans, and twin otters. If I had the money I'd snap up one of those over a gulf stream or falcon.
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Your typical Getbigger traveling to Dubai India for work. ;D
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Call me crazy but I've always been obsessed with pc-12, caravans, and twin otters. If I had the money I'd snap up one of those over a gulf stream or falcon.
Turbo props are more fuel efficient than jets and can fly almost as fast, but they will never be as smooth and quiet. The perception by the general public is that they are cheaper and more outdated.
If you're used to piston powered airplanes then a turbo prop is a huge step up. I've flown in a brand new Piper Meridian turbo prop. It was amazing how smooth and quiet the engine was compared to a piston powered airplane. For reference, the Pratt and Whitney engines in the PC-12 and Caravan run about $800,000 a piece.
I would agree with you, all three turbo props you mentioned are impressive aircraft. The de havilland Twin Otter is still being produced by Viking air. They can literally take of and land from anywhere. They are the jeep of the aerospace industry and very popular with third world airlines around the world. The Caravan is a favorite of Fedex. They have a fleet of 241.
Twin Otter taking off from a beach.
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Good choice when in a pinch. I like to roll out the falcon for more spacious needs, necessary for solidifying those global changing deals with clients.
(http://i65.tinypic.com/9k01sk.jpg)
As long your clients are impressed by such a display then go for it. Personally, I'd have doubts about any company that didn't roll out an A-380.
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Turbo props are more fuel efficient than jets and can fly almost as fast, but they will never be as smooth and quiet. The perception by the general public is that they are cheaper and more outdated.
If you're used to piston powered airplanes then a turbo prop is a huge step up. I've flown in a brand new Piper Meridian turbo prop. It was amazing how smooth and quiet the engine was compared to a piston powered airplane. For reference, the Pratt and Whitney engines in the PC-12 and Caravan run about $800,000 a piece.
I would agree with you, all three turbo props you mentioned are impressive aircraft. The de havilland Twin Otter is still being produced by Viking air. They can literally take of and land from anywhere. They are the jeep of the aerospace industry and very popular with third world airlines around the world. The Caravan is a favorite of Fedex. They have a fleet of 241.
Twin Otter taking off from a beach.
Yeah, I'm aware. I'm an ATP, I flew jets for quite a few years. I considered taking a step down To fly a caravan for one Of The fedex feeders but ultimately decided to leave the industry. I can't recall how to post YouTube videos but my favorite is the otter landing in st Bart's and Saba.
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Yeah, I'm aware. I'm an ATP, I flew jets for quite a few years. I considered taking a step down To fly a caravan for one Of The fedex feeders but ultimately decided to leave the industry. I can't recall how to post YouTube videos but my favorite is the otter landing in st Bart's and Saba.
What models of jets have you flown?
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I flew mostly for the regionals so my experience with different equipment is limited. CE-550 and CL-65 (200 and 900) are the only jets I've flown. I did get to sit in the Jumpseat of plenty of other airliners but no operating experience myself. One of my old students flew twin otters for a skydive company and I'm still kicking myself for not taking him up in the offer of flying with him. I just really amazed by the performance capabilities of otters, caravans, and pilatus.
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I'll have you know that Clotaire Rapaille, the marketing guru, once said that small plane-flying will be the norm in the future. Once they find a way to park them things in an urban environment, the industry is going to skyrocket.
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http://www.pentastaraviation.com/available-aircraft (http://www.pentastaraviation.com/available-aircraft)
Turbo Prop 6-8 Passengers Up to 1,500 miles $1800-2200 per hour
King Air 200
Light 6-8 Passengers Up To 2,100 miles $2100-2800 per hour
Citation Jet Series
Hawker 400 XP
Learjet 45 / 75
Phenom 300
Mid-Size 7-9 Passengers Up To 2,700 miles $2700-4000 per hour
Citation XL/XLS
Hawker 800XP
Hawker 850XP
Hawker 900XP
Learjet 60 / 60XR
Gulfstream 150
Super Mid-Size 8-9 Passengers Up To 3,600 $3500-4500
Citation Latitude
Challenger 300/350
Citation X / Sovereign
Falcon 50EX
Gulfstream 200 / 280
Legacy 450 / 500
Heavy 9-16 Passengers Up To 4,500 miles $4500-6500 per hour
Challenger 604 / 605
Falcon 2000 EX / LXS
Gulfstream IV / IVSP / 450 / 400
Legacy 600
Ultra Long Range 12-17 Passengers, Up To 7,500 miles, $7000-9000 per hourFalcon 7X
Gulfstream V / 550 / 650
Global 7000
For example, four couples could charter an Embraer Phenom 300 from New York to Miami and back for $6300, or $787 per person. The Legacy 500 would be $1100 per person for six couples. It could be worth it for the unique experience.
I'm in the aviation industry and these numbers are way off. You're typically looking at a minimum $20,000-$25,000 to charter a Phenom 300 for that trip. You're forgetting to figure in the dead head (the plane's flight back to it's origin location) that you're responsible for as well. If you own the plane you can keep it down at the facility but that's going to cost you in the range of $400/day and up. The best bet right now is the Jetsmarter App that let's you book single seats of deadhead flights at a drastic savings. Bodybuilding related b/c I drink my protein shake when flying.
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I'll have you know that...
sounds like a condescending Vince Basile quote :D
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First A350-1000 low speed taxi
To me this is the most impressive airplane launching in the near future.
Range: 7990 nm
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First A350-1000 low speed taxi
To me this is the most impressive airplane launching in the near future.
Range: 7990 nm
Anyone know why they stopped or are stopping 747's flying in Saint Martin? That's was always pretty cool to watch.
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Boeing 737 max, YES!
Boeing's taking a beating in the single isle market.
Max 8 orders: 2435
A320neo orders: 3385
Max 9 orders: 418
A321neo orders: 1375
(https://www.businesstraveller.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/SAS-A320-neo-e1477559123648.jpg)
That's a $190 Billion dollar backlog for Airbus and they've already delivered 32 A320neos. Boeing won't begin delivery of the Max 8 until May 2017.
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The A321neo LR has enough range to cross the Atlantic allowing airlines to fly from the East coast to many cities in Europe.
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Palimboism, do you work in the aeronautics field? You are very well versed in all things plane.
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Palimboism, do you work in the aeronautics field? You are very well versed in all things plane.
Yes, I've worked at two aircraft companies.
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The Cessna Denali will compete directly with the Pilatus PC-12. As they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. In this case I would agree with Cessna. Pilatus got it dead on with the PC-12. It's by far the best single engine turbo prop in the world and there's no need to deviate with perfection.
(http://generalaviationnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Denali-v-PC-12.jpg)
I don't fly in anything with a propeller. I have a hard enough time flying let alone a machine that defies gravity....with a propeller.