Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure

Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Skorp1o on November 23, 2016, 12:48:00 PM

Title: America will be great again
Post by: Skorp1o on November 23, 2016, 12:48:00 PM
Been watching the drama unfold on the side lines, I reserved my opinion for a while...and finally, despite all the rants and negative media....Trump is a man who appears to have a backbone, and who also appears to have his heart in the right place and will be making decisions based on that. Those two qualities make for a promising leadership IMO and a different direction...unlike Slithery Clinton who will just be another stringed puppet, with Saudi financial backers and conglomerates...etc.

Saying that, I think in an ideal world you should all just have voted for Putin. He is the real leader of the world after all and once America stops rattling his cage and lifts the Sanctions, Russia with its great hardened men and cheap whores will be great again too.
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: Scat Cavier on November 23, 2016, 12:52:36 PM
Trump Trump Trump!
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: mass243 on November 23, 2016, 01:00:03 PM
No doubt.

Btw:
Russia is the only country in the world which - if we believe anglo-saxon media -  has been bankrupt and dying for 1000 years and has still been kicking ass basically all this time  8)
Just imagine What it could do if it actually stopped being bankrupt for 5 years!



(http://www.metamute.org/sites/www.metamute.org/files/u73/Persian_Playfellow.jpg)
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: ratherbebig on November 23, 2016, 01:02:38 PM
do you reckon that means america will climb from its current #13 spot on countries with the happiest people?
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: calfzilla on November 23, 2016, 01:06:47 PM
America needs diversity, multiculturalism is our strength.
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: Erik C on November 23, 2016, 01:18:44 PM
America needs diversity, multiculturalism is our strength.

Eat Shit, And Die!
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: Skorp1o on November 23, 2016, 01:52:27 PM
do you reckon that means america will climb from its current #13 spot on countries with the happiest people?

I don't buy into those "happy polls"

E.g. Denmark scores high all the time....I lived there it's very cold, taxes are extortionate, the people are boring and all talk and dress the same, there's no sense of individuality, and you can't buy a decent car with your own money as they have something called a "luxury tax" which means a BMW 3 series cost double to the UK for example as it has 100% tax on top, and super cars are taxed at 200% god forbids you became successful and wanted to enjoy yourself. They also have a very high rate of anti depressant usage...highest in Europe and everyone I knew there was on some shit including my Danish GF.

One thing about scandinavians in general is they're patriotic and love the smell of their own farts...this a cultural trait which skews polls. On the other hands Anglosaxon are never happy and brits are very unpatriotic, which skews polls.
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: SuperTed on November 23, 2016, 02:18:39 PM
(http://ih0.redbubble.net/image.103304777.6508/flat,1000x1000,075,f.jpg)
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: illuminati on November 23, 2016, 02:44:45 PM
I don't buy into those "happy polls"

E.g. Denmark scores high all the time....I lived there it's very cold, taxes are extortionate, the people are boring and all talk and dress the same, there's no sense of individuality, and you can't buy a decent car with your own money as they have something called a "luxury tax" which means a BMW 3 series cost double to the UK for example as it has 100% tax on top, and super cars are taxed at 200% god forbids you became successful and wanted to enjoy yourself. They also have a very high rate of anti depressant usage...highest in Europe and everyone I knew there was on some shit including my Danish GF.









Very interesting observations from some one who has livid there.
Doesn't sound like the happy utopia it is often portrayed as.

Thanks for the reality.
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 23, 2016, 03:04:33 PM
Since Trump is the President elect the stock market is going crazy.  The value of a dollar is up. Iran has toned down their usual BS.  Putin and Netanyahu are happy.  Merkel and the head of France is pissed off.  That hot spot Turkey is happy Trump is in.  Saudi Arabia is nervous. The NY Times semi apologized for it's pushing of Hillary and giving Trump digs. Good things are already happening. 
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: Hulkotron on November 23, 2016, 03:11:22 PM
including my Danish GF.

PTPS
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: calfzilla on November 23, 2016, 03:18:08 PM
Eat Shit, And Die!


 :D
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: Yamcha on November 23, 2016, 03:27:58 PM
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: ratherbebig on November 23, 2016, 03:41:52 PM
I don't buy into those "happy polls"

E.g. Denmark scores high all the time....I lived there it's very cold, taxes are extortionate, the people are boring and all talk and dress the same, there's no sense of individuality, and you can't buy a decent car with your own money as they have something called a "luxury tax" which means a BMW 3 series cost double to the UK for example as it has 100% tax on top, and super cars are taxed at 200% god forbids you became successful and wanted to enjoy yourself. They also have a very high rate of anti depressant usage...highest in Europe and everyone I knew there was on some shit including my Danish GF.

One thing about scandinavians in general is they're patriotic and love the smell of their own farts...this a cultural trait which skews polls. On the other hands Anglosaxon are never happy and brits are very unpatriotic, which skews polls.

- i reckon its no colder than a lot of places in the us.
- taxes on supercars is a problem, i agree, something should be done.

as far as anti depressants usa tops THAT list.

and i dont have a problem with how they are dressing.

(https://rankly.com/cache/47253815f525d3f68a1bd25c304d7043_w500_h500.jpg)
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 23, 2016, 04:24:23 PM
- i reckon its no colder than a lot of places in the us.
- taxes on supercars is a problem, i agree, something should be done.

as far as anti depressants usa tops THAT list.

and i dont have a problem with how they are dressing.

(https://rankly.com/cache/47253815f525d3f68a1bd25c304d7043_w500_h500.jpg)

In a generation they won't look like that, and if they do, they'll be covered in a hijab.
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: Skorp1o on November 23, 2016, 05:09:23 PM
In a generation they won't look like that, and if they do, they'll be covered in a hijab.

I doubt it will be that quick. The refugees and immigrants there don't integrate as well. Nordics are traditional and like their beer and marinated herring evenings with family and tea candles and they are quite clicky and unlike Mediterranean people not warm and welcoming to strangers in comparison...this combined with new immigrants attitudes Leads to the poorest rate of integration and social mixing, so they all live in different areas and don't mix, integration is much worse than the U.K. and the US...the immigrants inter-marry or bring new wife's from their lands mostly as a general rule.

The women do however like a little bit of difference...I.e a handsome American guy would do well, even mixed race if you're good looking and mild mannered. But bearded Muslim or pitch black off the boat Africano is a hard sell. But beware as it's a feminist society, the women ride a high horse of superiority...Swedish men are forced to piss sitting down.
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 24, 2016, 09:41:34 AM
I doubt it will be that quick. The refugees and immigrants there don't integrate as well. Nordics are traditional and like their beer and marinated herring evenings with family and tea candles and they are quite clicky and unlike Mediterranean people not warm and welcoming to strangers in comparison...this combined with new immigrants attitudes Leads to the poorest rate of integration and social mixing, so they all live in different areas and don't mix, integration is much worse than the U.K. and the US...the immigrants inter-marry or bring new wife's from their lands mostly as a general rule.

The women do however like a little bit of difference...I.e a handsome American guy would do well, even mixed race if you're good looking and mild mannered. But bearded Muslim or pitch black off the boat Africano is a hard sell. But beware as it's a feminist society, the women ride a high horse of superiority...Swedish men are forced to piss sitting down.


Seriously?  And to the bit about not being with really dark dudes, do the feminists just hold their nose and do it just to call themselves tolerant?
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: Skorp1o on November 24, 2016, 01:10:50 PM

Seriously?  And to the bit about not being with really dark dudes, do the feminists just hold their nose and do it just to call themselves tolerant?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/13/sweden-left-party-toilet-stand_n_1590572.html

That's why Kwon fanaticises about big black booties all the time so he can smash the cellulite like a boss then piss all over the toilet stood up like a real man should.
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: Skorp1o on November 24, 2016, 01:15:27 PM

And to the bit about not being with really dark dudes, do the feminists just hold their nose and do it just to call themselves tolerant?

To give them credit they are picky with men and like them suave and well educated...so this goes against most new immigrants who by nature tend to be uneducated and poorer in their own countries. Like you guys, you don't get many middle class highly skilled mexicans coming over....usually it's "rapists and drug dealers with a lot of problems" (source: Donald Trump)
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: denarii on November 24, 2016, 01:36:13 PM
Steve Bannon is in the driving seat and he is an absolute shit. Trump will work for domestic wealthy people. Clinton worked for global platform companies. Things will get much worse.
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: Skorp1o on November 24, 2016, 01:54:15 PM
Steve Bannon is in the driving seat and he is an absolute shit. Trump will work for domestic wealthy people. Clinton worked for global platform companies. Things will get much worse.

I disagree, the only thing Trump will fuck up is diplomatic ties and foreign policy...but the US has fucked up its foreign policy consistently since 9/11. So nothing new here. Lets be honest, everyone needs America not the other way around. Even banking is heavily reliant on the USD. Governments across the globe can't buy or sell shit without USD.
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: denarii on November 24, 2016, 03:16:38 PM
I disagree, the only thing Trump will fuck up is diplomatic ties and foreign policy...but the US has fucked up its foreign policy consistently since 9/11. So nothing new here. Lets be honest, everyone needs America not the other way around. Even banking is heavily reliant on the USD. Governments across the globe can't buy or sell shit without USD.


Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: XFACTOR on November 24, 2016, 07:53:39 PM
Who cares about this shit Skorp. Hows the wrist game keepin up and are you still jacked. Let's get down to what's important here.

Good to see you around here!
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: jude2 on November 24, 2016, 08:09:51 PM
Steve Bannon is in the driving seat and he is an absolute shit. Trump will work for domestic wealthy people. Clinton worked for global platform companies. Things will get much worse.
I disagree, but we shall see.
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: Skorp1o on November 24, 2016, 11:35:41 PM
Who cares about this shit Skorp. Hows the wrist game keepin up and are you still jacked. Let's get down to what's important here.

Good to see you around here!

All better, since being off getbig and looking at buying my dream car very soon. I'm not jacked though, just turned 38 had a nasty infection that held me back and kept me in hospital, but now all good again and back in the gym. So won't be touching any gear for a while. Still got abs and decent pecs though.
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: Rusty Trombone on November 24, 2016, 11:45:36 PM
I don't buy into those "happy polls"

E.g. Denmark scores high all the time....I lived there it's very cold, taxes are extortionate, the people are boring and all talk and dress the same, there's no sense of individuality, and you can't buy a decent car with your own money as they have something called a "luxury tax" which means a BMW 3 series cost double to the UK for example as it has 100% tax on top, and super cars are taxed at 200% god forbids you became successful and wanted to enjoy yourself. They also have a very high rate of anti depressant usage...
Most European Union countries are hell on earth today.
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: denarii on November 25, 2016, 02:20:48 AM


Global Trumpism
Why Trump’s Victory Was 30 Years in the Making and Why It Won’t Stop Here
By Mark Blyth


Trump’s victory was predictable, and was predicted, but not by looking at polls. Polling has taken a beating recently having failed to predict the victory of David Cameron’s Conservative Party in the British general elections, then Brexit, and now the election of Donald Trump. One can argue about what’s wrong with the methods involved, but more fundamentally what polls do is to treat these phenomena as isolated events when they are in fact the product of a common set of causes 30 years in the making. 

There are two issues at play here. The first is known as Galton’s problem, after Sir Francis Galton, the inventor of much of modern statistics. Galton’s problem is that when we treat cases as independent—the British election, Brexit, the U.S. election—they may not actually be independent. There may be links between the cases—think of Brexit’s Nigel Farage showing up at Trump's rallies—and there could be subtler contagion or mimicry effects in play as information from one case “infects” the other, changing the dynamics of the system as a whole. Could there then be a higher set of drivers in the global economy pushing the world in a direction where Trump is really just one part of a more global pattern of events?

Consider that there are many Trumpets blowing around the developed world, on both the right and the left. On the one side, insurgent right-wing parties are bulldozing the vote shares of traditional centrist parties all over Europe. For example, the Finns Party is the second-largest party in the Finnish parliament. In Sweden, the Swedish Democrats are the third-largest party in parliament. In Hungary, Prime Minister Viktor Orban’s political party, Fidesz, runs the country having won two elections. Meanwhile in France, the most popular political party is the National Front, which in all scenarios but one—whatever such exercises are actually worth—is expected to win the first round of voting in the 2017 French presidential election. But when all the other parties in France close ranks to prevent the National Front from winning the second round, it’s hardly a victory for democracy. And even in that bulwark of stability, Germany, the upstart Alternative for Germany beat German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union into second place in her own backyard.

A clash outside the Labor Ministry in Athens, Greece, January 2013.
John Kolesidis / REUTERS

A clash outside the Labor Ministry in Athens, Greece, January 2013.

But there is also a left-wing version of this phenomenon. Consider the Scottish National Party (the clue is in the name), which has annihilated every other political party in Scotland, or Podemos in Spain, which has won 69 out of 350 seats in the Spanish parliament. Left-wing upstart Syriza runs Greece—even if it’s under Troika tutelage—and Die Linke in Germany is yet another drain on the vote share of the once-dominant Social Democrats, whose own vote share has utterly collapsed.

These parties of course have very different policy stances. The new right favors nationals over immigrants and has, at best, a rather casual relationship with the liberal understanding of human rights. The new left, in contrast, favors redistribution from top to bottom and inclusive rather than exclusionary growth policies. But they also have more in common than we think. They are all pro-welfare (for some people, at least), anti-globalization, and most interestingly, pro-state, and although they say it sotto voce on the right, anti-finance. To see why, consider our second issue.

At the end of World War II, the United States and its allies decided that sustained mass unemployment was an existential threat to capitalism and had to be avoided at all costs. In response, governments everywhere targeted full employment as the master policy variable—trying to get to, and sustain, an unemployment rate of roughly four percent. The problem with doing so, over time, is that targeting any variable long enough undermines the value of the variable itself—a phenomenon known as Goodhart’s law.

Long before Goodhart, an economist named Michal Kalecki had already worked this out. Back in 1943, he argued that once you target and sustain full employment over time, it basically becomes costless for labor to move from job to job. Wages in such a world will have to continually rise to hold onto labor, and the only way business can accommodate that is to push up prices. This mechanism, cost-push inflation, where wages and prices chase each other up, emerged in the 1970s and coincided with the end of the Bretton Woods regime and the subsequent oil shocks to produce high inflation in the rich countries of the West in the 1970s. In short, the system undermined itself, as both Goodhart and Kalecki predicted. As countries tried harder and harder to target full employment, the more inflation shot up while profits fell. The 1970s became a kind of “debtor’s paradise.” As inflation rose, debts fell in real terms, and labor’s share of national income rose to an all-time high, while corporate profits remained low and were pummeled by inflation. Unions were powerful and inequality plummeted.

    The era of neoliberalism is over. The era of neonationalism has just begun.

But if it was a great time to be a debtor, it was a lousy time to be a creditor. Inflation acts as a tax on the returns on investment and lending. Unsurprisingly in response, employers and creditors mobilized and funded a market-friendly revolution where the goal of full employment was jettisoned for a new target—price stability, aka inflation—to restore the value of debt and discipline labor through unemployment. And it worked. The new order was called neoliberalism.

Over the next thirty years the world was transformed from a debtor’s paradise into a creditor’s paradise where capital’s share of national income rose to an all-time high as labor’s share fell as wages stagnated. Productivity rose, but the returns all went to capital. Unions were crushed while labor’s ability to push up wages collapsed due to the twin shocks of restrictive legislation and the globalization of production. Parliaments in turn were reduced to tweet-generating talking shops as central banks and policy technocrats wrested control of the economy away from those elected to govern.

But Goodhart’s law never went away. Just as targeting full employment undermined itself, so did making inflation the policy target.

Consider that since the 2008 crisis the world’s major central banks have dumped at least $12 trillion dollars into the global economy and there is barely any inflation anywhere. Almost a quarter of all European bonds now have negative yields. Unsurprisingly, interest rates are on the floor, and if it were not for the massive purchasing of assets in the Eurozone by the European Central Bank, deflation would be systemic. In sum, we may have created a world in which deflation, not inflation, is the new normal, and that has serious political consequences, which brings us back to Trump.

Using an ATM during a power outage in San Juan, Puerto Rico, September 2016.
Alvin Baez / REUTERS

Using an ATM during a power outage in San Juan, Puerto Rico, September 2016.

In a world of disinflation, credit became very cheap and the private sector levered up—massively—with post-crisis household debt now standing at $12.25 trillion in the United States. This is a common story. Wage earners now have too much debt in an environment where wages cannot rise fast enough to reduce those debts. Meanwhile, in a deflation, the opposite of what happens in an inflation occurs. The value of debt increases while the ability to pay off those debts decreases.

Seen this way, what we see is a reversal of power between creditors and debtors as the anti-inflationary regime of the past 30 years undermines itself—what we might call “Goodhart’s revenge.” In this world, yields compress and creditors fret about their earnings, demanding repayment of debt at all costs. Macro-economically, this makes the situation worse: the debtors can’t pay—but politically, and this is crucial—it empowers debtors since they can’t pay, won’t pay, and still have the right to vote.

The traditional parties of the center-left and center-right, the builders of this anti-inflationary order, get clobbered in such a world, since they are correctly identified by these debtors as the political backers of those demanding repayment in an already unequal system, and all from those with the least assets. This produces anti-creditor, pro-debtor coalitions-in-waiting that are ripe for the picking by insurgents of the left and the right, which is exactly what has happened.

In short, to understand the election of Donald Trump we need to listen to the trumpets blowing everywhere in the highly indebted developed countries and the people who vote for them.

The global revolt against elites is not just driven by revulsion and loss and racism. It’s also driven by the global economy itself. This is a global phenomenon that marks one thing above all. The era of neoliberalism is over. The era of neonationalism has just begun.
Title: Re: America will be great again
Post by: Weedlejuice on November 30, 2016, 01:39:19 AM
The dollar is inevitably going to implode and america is going to be plunged into a financial crisis trump couldn't turn around in 8 years never mind 4, he's going to be blamed for decades of democratic spending and get thrown out of office before the benefits of his decisions ever materialise, it'll be business as usual until the the new Obama or Hillary sparks a new disastrous world event it can profit from at the behest of everyone else