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Title: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 04, 2016, 07:48:27 AM
Anyone catch the Ryan Hall / Gray Maynard fight?

Hall is a leg lock expert. His strategy is to pepper his opponent with front leg kicks, and when his opponent closes the distance, Hall tries to roll into a leg lock position.

It's an effective strategy partly because you're not allowed to kick a downed opponent.

So, he can go to the ground intentionally and if he gets his position, attempt to tear up his opponent's knee without having to worry about getting kneed or kicked in the head.

The rule should be that if you intentionally go to the ground, your head is fair game to be kicked.

Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: ratherbebig on December 04, 2016, 07:57:23 AM
i dont think allowing kicking in the head on a grounded fighter would send out a good message.
Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 04, 2016, 07:59:45 AM
i dont think allowing kicking in the head on a grounded fighter would send out a good message.

It would only be if the fighter goes to the ground intentionally.  The crowd was booing the fight because Hall kept flopping to the ground. It's not a fan friendly style.
Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: Simple Simon on December 04, 2016, 10:19:16 AM
It would only be if the fighter goes to the ground intentionally.  The crowd was booing the fight because Hall kept flopping to the ground. It's not a fan friendly style.
lets not let the fans decide whats acceptable, the type of people who go watching UFC are deranged halfwits who love violence.
Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: BB on December 04, 2016, 10:40:44 AM
I wouldn't have a problem with it. The big thing is that it probably wouldn't make it through most state athletic commissions. They'd see it as too violent, more akin to the old Worldstar head stomp, than anything sporting.
Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: Darren Avey on December 04, 2016, 10:47:57 AM
Da cage is where it's at
Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: ratherbebig on December 04, 2016, 10:51:41 AM
how about they start on the ground and you get points if you drag your opponent off the ground
Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: Royalty on December 04, 2016, 11:00:18 AM
i dont think allowing kicking in the head on a grounded fighter would send out a good message.

Purposely falling to the ground doesn't send a good message either
Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: ratherbebig on December 04, 2016, 11:02:33 AM
sure it does. nothing wrong with that.

they should be starting lying down and then moving up
Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on December 04, 2016, 11:16:03 AM
i dont think allowing kicking in the head on a grounded fighter would send out a good message.

Oh, brother  ::)

Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 04, 2016, 11:18:54 AM
I wouldn't have a problem with it. The big thing is that it probably wouldn't make it through most state athletic commissions. They'd see it as too violent, more akin to the old Worldstar head stomp, than anything sporting.

You're probably right. In that case, the smart move would be to ban the heel hook. Why risk guys having their knees torn up?


lets not let the fans decide whats acceptable, the type of people who go watching UFC are deranged halfwits who love violence.

It doesn't mean we're bad guys :)

Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on December 04, 2016, 11:29:42 AM
lets not let the fans decide whats acceptable, the type of people who go watching UFC are deranged halfwits who love violence.

If there is one thing I insist on, it is that UFC maintain its well-known high-brow, deeply intellectual production standards. 
Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: Simple Simon on December 04, 2016, 11:32:35 AM
If there is one thing I insist on, it is that UFC maintain its well-known high-brow, deeply intellectual production standards. 
;D
Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: Griffith on December 04, 2016, 11:40:20 AM
Would probably be a lot more watchable if they got rid of the 'ground game'
Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: ratherbebig on December 04, 2016, 11:42:28 AM
whatabout these rules:

standup: only allowed to grapple

ground: only allowed to kick and punch

 ???
Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: Simple Simon on December 04, 2016, 11:44:09 AM
whatabout these rules:

standup: only allowed to grapple

ground: only allowed to kick and punch

 ???

and biting, nipping and pulling hair...
Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: ratherbebig on December 04, 2016, 11:49:12 AM
they always talk about the evolution of mma

well it would be nice to see who was the best kicker - on the ground.

just calls for a whole different approach to training.
Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: falco on December 04, 2016, 12:11:44 PM
I remember as a teen hearing voices wanting to ban boxing due to its violence. 20 years later, ground and pound is aceptale.
Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: Europe on December 04, 2016, 12:53:54 PM
That's why Pride FC was the best!

Point deduction for stalling, knee and kick on down opponent + fights were judged as a whole, no stupid 10-9 rounds who is better suited for boxing.

Yellow/red cards + great production & all fans/audience were very educated. Grappling exchanges were highly appreciated.

Meanwhile in 'Murica: drunk fans chanting "Jew-SA, Jew-SA" and only want to see blood. yeah a sport  ::)
Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: WalterWhite on December 04, 2016, 02:26:42 PM
Maynard was likely hit by 100 kicks he had no answer for and he didn't even give ground and pound a try.  If your losing you should at least try going to the ground.

Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: Bevo on December 04, 2016, 02:29:54 PM
lets not let the fans decide whats acceptable, the type of people who go watching UFC are deranged halfwits who love violence.

How about those that enjoy going to bbing shows? All schmoes and homos?
Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: ratherbebig on December 04, 2016, 02:50:35 PM
How about those that enjoy going to bbing shows? All schmoes and homos?

bb shows should allow grappling. theyre already oiled up so to have a few rounds of oil wrestling would be a real crowd pleaser.
Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 04, 2016, 03:33:17 PM
Maynard was likely hit by 100 kicks he had no answer for and he didn't even give ground and pound a try.  If your losing you should at least try going to the ground.



This is the game Hall plays on the ground. In a no rules fight, you could try kicking him in the face with your free leg, but that's illegal in the UFC.

Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: ratherbebig on December 04, 2016, 03:49:08 PM
i remember hall now, was he on the ultimate fighter show or something? very annoying fighter

Title: Re: UFC Rule Change Needed?
Post by: cephissus on December 04, 2016, 04:00:32 PM
lets not let the fans decide whats acceptable, the type of people who go watching UFC are deranged halfwits who love violence.

Funny, coming from one whose favorite pastime is to tirelessly pursue verbal sparring with anonymous halfwits on a bodybuilding forum.