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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: ratherbebig on December 04, 2016, 01:58:49 PM
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sometimes im on the fence
in seated rows for example
i can either do it with perfect form, but slightly less weight
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i can push it by using maximum weight, but feeling that the form isnt there, im starting to slightly use my legs on last reps etc
which one you reckon is the best strategy?
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?board=2.0
now fuck off with this shit.
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sure as long as you post all your diet comments on the nutrition board ::)
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sure as long as you post all your diet comments on the nutrition board ::)
I respond, I dont initiate.
in answer to your question, keep your legs perfectly straight and use a weight that you can do 1 rep with, lift it in a jerky twisting movement and try and hit 10 reps.
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Going with maximum weights makes the lifting helluva lot funnier.
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sometimes im on the fence
in seated rows for example
i can either do it with perfect form, but slightly less weight
or
i can push it by using maximum weight, but feeling that the form isnt there, im starting to slightly use my legs on last reps etc
which one you reckon is the best strategy?
I thought you were afraid to join the gym?
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im leaning towards perfect form, still i get inpatient sometimes and want to lift more, knowing that i once did before my break.
it's also got a lot do with working with the muscle.
for pressing exercises for example, pressing with your pecs is completely different. most people dont.
same with back. people use their arms.
same with lateral raises, people should let it come from the elbows.
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little bit of both
just dont snap up your shit
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Perfect form always
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Form Follows Function!
Good Form Means Good Function = Positive Results.
Bad Form Means Bad Function = Negative Results.
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You got to feel it working. If not, it's too heavy.
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TUT
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Lee priest making fun of branch warren form.
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Lee priest making fun of branch warren form.
lee priest is a prick
would punch him right in the jaw
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lee priest used good form
other than that its hard to learn from him since he's a midget and that makes you wonder why the training of a midget would work for a non midget
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lee priest is a prick
would punch him right in the jaw
Yes that midget is annoying
Always says he's telling it like it is, a full of shit guy that's trying to stay relevant
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Yes that midget is annoying
Always says he's telling it like it is, a full of shit guy that's trying to stay relevant
besides the fact he is usually lying thru his teeth, what makes "telling it how it is" something admirable
i will tell lee how it is when it comes to manlets in the real world
when he gets upset i'll tell him i'm just telling you how it is lee!!
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lee priest is a prick
would punch him right in the jaw
yeah sure you would
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i only grew with heavy weights and bad form.
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It's all about out-lifting all the other nobodies in the gym to show you're the king nobody.
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Use a full range of motion. You are there to work the muscle and not to impress anyone with the weight used. The gym is full of short rep warriors using big weights. Use the heaviest weight you can use with a full range of motion. You should do the exercise in the hardest fashion and not the easiest. That means not loading the leg press with the weight of a car while barely bending your knees. Grabbing the giant dumbbells and never going all the way down is just ego lifting. Don't do delusional ego lifting. I see young guys doing rack deadlifts from a raised position and I know they could never pull that weight off the floor.
I see even casual lifters doing it. I have a 60 something man in my gym that only uses machines. He puts the pin on the bottom of the stack and does partials for everything thinking he is the strongest guy in the gym. An example of this is the shoulder press. He lowers the seat to the bottom. Now the handles are in the half rep position. He forces the weight up and proceeds to do half to quarter reps. Just delusional.
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i only grew with heavy weights and bad form.
And now he's a cripple
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Kai doing partial reps just how your suppose to do, all you no size fucks don't understand once your
Over 270 pounds partial reps are normal range of motion
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both!
body loves repetition and pattern so it can adapt and stagnate, the lazy bastard.
gotta throw it off, sets of perfect form using max weight for that form, TUT etc.
Mixed with sets or days of lesser form and heavier weight, more explosiveness to overload muscle and add new stress.
Still need to hit target muscle effectively though, but things like turnaround point of rep and force generated are really emphasized with heavier poundage so sacrificing a bit of form to achieve this isn't bad at all.
Poundstone had a good saying, everything can work but nothing can work forever. Need to add new stimulus and stress.
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And now he's a cripple
you dont have to squat 700lbs to be lifting heavy
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both!
body loves repetition and pattern so it can adapt and stagnate, the lazy bastard.
gotta throw it off, sets of perfect form using max weight for that form, TUT etc.
Mixed with sets or days of lesser form and heavier weight, more explosiveness to overload muscle and add new stress.
Still need to hit target muscle effectively though, but things like turnaround point of rep and force generated are really emphasized with heavier poundage so sacrificing a bit of form to achieve this isn't bad at all.
Poundstone had a good saying, everything can work but nothing can work forever. Need to add new stimulus and stress.
Are you trying to imply you 'shock' the muscle....
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Are you trying to imply you 'shock' the muscle....
No i'm trying to imply you add a new stress to it....
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Its easy enough getting hurt training correctly, youl gain nothing spending months injured...
I've trained around 20yrs, if I had my time around id train much lighter and emphasise contractions etc after 5 years training properly you are more or less stuck at that size the rest of your training days, it takes years to realise chasing weights makes no difference
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thanks guys.
ill stick to proper form.
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And now he's a cripple
clap for yourself f@ggot
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Its easy enough getting hurt training correctly, youl gain nothing spending months injured...
I've trained around 20yrs, if I had my time around id train much lighter and emphasise contractions etc after 5 years training properly you are more or less stuck at that size the rest of your training days, it takes years to realise chasing weights makes no difference
and the sooner people came to terms with that they would be a lot happier and less likely to destroy their internal organs
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Perfect form, less chance of injury.
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and the sooner people came to terms with that they would be a lot happier and less likely to destroy their internal organs
Its hard to come to terms with... I know blokes older who've trained longer who still dont accept this, its truly mind boggling
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Use a full range of motion. You are there to work the muscle and not to impress anyone with the weight used. The gym is full of short rep warriors using big weights. Use the heaviest weight you can use with a full range of motion. You should do the exercise in the hardest fashion and not the easiest. That means not loading the leg press with the weight of a car while barely bending your knees. Grabbing the giant dumbbells and never going all the way down is just ego lifting. Don't do delusional ego lifting. I see young guys doing rack deadlifts from a raised position and I know they could never pull that weight off the floor.
I see even casual lifters doing it. I have a 60 something man in my gym that only uses machines. He puts the pin on the bottom of the stack and does partials for everything thinking he is the strongest guy in the gym. An example of this is the shoulder press. He lowers the seat to the bottom. Now the handles are in the half rep position. He forces the weight up and proceeds to do half to quarter reps. Just delusional.
For every steaming pile topic of shit, you find an undigested nugget of wisdom.
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Recently had to lighten all weights (well didn't HAVE to but thought it wise to) after getting 3 surgical hernias on my old scars, untill then barely ever went over 5 reps a set, to be honest it's been a massive eye opener switching to higher reps and volume, thought I would lose size but if owt several if not all bodyparts look far better, and am slightly less fat (I hesitate to say leaner haha) from the added volume.
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No one even understands the first thing about form anyway, and if they do, they can't communicate it. Work on improving your sensitivity, don't listen to other people.
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Poundstone had a good saying, everything can work but nothing can work forever. Need to add new stimulus and stress.
So true
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So true
if its true then where is the evidence?
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if its true then where is the evidence?
I don't know what you're asking. You never stagnate from doing the same exercise routine? Is that not evidence enough?
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I don't know what you're asking. You never stagnate from doing the same exercise routine? Is that not evidence enough?
you can only notice you are stagnating, not "stagnating from doing the same exercise routine"
ronnie coleman did the same routine all his career
it's about steroids/insulin/legit kigs
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Kai doing partial reps just how your suppose to do, all you no size fucks don't understand once your
Over 270 pounds partial reps are normal range of motion
Kai and the other pro bb:rs do what they do with experience of 20+ years of training. Most of them have that "mind & muscle" connection which you guys don't even understand, so they feel what stimulates the muscle and what not. 96% of you guys think that you just go and bench, and more is better. Kai knows that weight used has no significance what so ever, but the feeling in the muscle has. You can copy his partials but if you don't have that same mind & muscle connection, you probably waste your time.
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for what Goal ? get bigger muscles, or get as strong as possible.....= 2 different answers