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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Breakycpk on December 16, 2016, 03:09:57 PM
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Most of local better bodybuilders are abusing them mostly codeine and morphine, is there any real benefit to use them or its ticket to hell?
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When you mask pain before a workout, you won't notice it & you'll work through it & cause further damage, not to mention addiction.
Pain is there to tell you to stop. When you no longer have this warning mechanism, you WILL cause more damage.
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Pain killers in general are a horrible idea to fuck around with
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Would never fuck with it... I was hooked on oxys 5 years ago and I'm still paying for it... I have to take suboxone daily now. Horrible WD
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That sucks man im sorry to hear that
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Would never fuck with it... I was hooked on oxys 5 years ago and I'm still paying for it... I have to take suboxone daily now. Horrible WD
You've been on subs for 5yrs?
I banged 6g h a day for a year n a half and was on subs for 6months. (& 3200 gabapentin)
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You've been on subs for 5yrs?
I banged 6g h a day for a year n a half and was on subs for 6months. (& 3200 gabapentin)
Well I don't know what that is much. Since we don't have a H here... but I was snorting 7 x80mg a day and sometime smoking 3x 100mcg fentanyl patches a day.. but I guess 6gr of H is shit load of heroin... I don't wanna go off subs... I'm afraid I will just fall back in opiates. But it sucks to put your life around some pill.. just to feel normal and not go into severe WD. I recommend for everyone to stay away from painkillers. I thought they were my life solver until I found out I was physical addicted. Regret that shit so much
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Been to rehab 2x & never knew anybody who did more than 2-3g/day.
I couldn't get hold of any blk so I took 2 80mg oxys and shot 22mg diluadid and was still in bad bad wd.
Started at 32mg subs & was still in wd for 2 days... Tapered to 24 then 16 then 8mg for a long time... Then took me from 8mg/day to zero in 4 days. Lol
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Been to rehab 2x & never knew anybody who did more than 2-3g/day.
I couldn't get hold of any blk so I took 2 80mg oxys and shot 22mg diluadid and was still in bad bad wd.
Started at 32mg subs & was still in wd for 2 days... Tapered to 24 then 16 then 8mg for a long time... Then took me from 8mg/day to zero in 4 days. Lol
Shiit how bad were your wd from 8 to 0 ? And how long were they? You remind me of a more fucked up version of me...
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Shiit how bad were your wd from 8 to 0 ? And how long were they? You remind me of a more fucked up version of me...
wasn't so bad... Used phenobarbital for the sub detox (60-280mg 2-3x/day..... Which is garbage. Could be taken a gram and not felt it. Ativan would've been much better).
I did find that a combo of gabapentin/baclofen/clonidine 3x/day had me so "high" I couldn't feel my face. (But not a"I'm fucked up" high, if that makes sense... Plus Drs will had out scripts for those no problem).
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Fuck guys, after i read the whole topic i think i will put tramadol right into trash lol, i thought iam not person who got problems with addictions, i stopped hypnogen after 6 months nonstop from day to day, but now benzos are whole different level, you feel good in general, in the morning no zombie mode everything is perfect as long as you dont try to sleep without them.
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Fuck guys, after i read the whole topic i think i will put tramadol right into trash lol, i thought iam not person who got problems with addictions, i stopped hypnogen after 6 months nonstop from day to day, but now benzos are whole different level, you feel good in general, in the morning no zombie mode everything is perfect as long as you dont try to sleep without them.
Tramadol is what lead me to H. Withdrawal from tramadol was just as bad as nubain.
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Hahahaha tramadol was exactly the start of everything here... I remember first time I would get high from 3x50mg pills.. and after very short time I was eating 20x50mg all are once. Stay away...
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Also did you find gaba help with the wd? I remember one day I ran out of subs and I only had xanax and lyrical so I took 900mg of lyrical and 4mg of xanax I'm starters and I barley found any wd symptoms
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Also did you find gaba help with the wd? I remember one day I ran out of subs and I only had xanax and lyrical so I took 900mg of lyrical and 4mg of xanax I'm starters and I barley found any wd symptoms
that's a high dose lyrics. I tried that one day and was "off" all day.
I have nerve damage in my hand n neck sho that's basically why I stayed the gaba.. Wasn't till I got to 3200mg/day that I noticed it helped with anxiety.
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Hahahaha tramadol was exactly the start of everything here... I remember first time I would get high from 3x50mg pills.. and after very short time I was eating 20x50mg all are once. Stay away...
I was prescribed 8/day. I though "no big deal.. These are what I used to come off Nubian back in 02"... Then I was Getting sides so I triedbacking off the dose and I couldn't go below 3 per day...not even 2.5... Without withdrawal.
Then they scheduled it n my Dr would only write the s ript for 3 per day for 20 days...n I was fucked.
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Tramadol sucks because of its mechanism. Every time I tried to take over 200mg I would start to get vertigo and nausea that I later found out was "serotonin syndrome." Synthetic opioids generally have some caveats.
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Anyone messing with opiate drugs without a legit medical reason is a fool in my book.
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On the top of all ive got only 200mg tab of tramadol but never used it before lol, when i read some1 high on 50mg, glad i didnt try 1 tab. :-D
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I was prescribed 8/day. I though "no big deal.. These are what I used to come off Nubian back in 02"... Then I was Getting sides so I triedbacking off the dose and I couldn't go below 3 per day...not even 2.5... Without withdrawal.
Then they scheduled it n my Dr would only write the s ript for 3 per day for 20 days...n I was fucked.
And that's when you relapsed to h?
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And that's when you relapsed to h?
Well about a day after my script ran out a customer called me up and asked me if I knew anybody who wanted to buy any Dilaudid I said I had no idea I'd make some calls... I forgot all about it he called the next day and asked if I found anybody I said no... Then I asked what are you looking for? He asked what they were worth. I said I had no idea.... Give me $20 worth. Which turned out to be from his Gf who stole 1000 2mg tabs from some cancer patient... And $20 worth turned out to be about 60 tabs. Which lasted me about 2 days.
Soooo.... Over the next 2 months I went through about 1000 tabs iv at 6-9tabs per shot.
Went to Mexico on vacation for a cpl weeks... Came back and did my last 15 or so tabs. Next day I find out the girl is out & I'm in withdrawal... So i ended up trying h.
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Well about a day after my script ran out a customer called me up and asked me if I knew anybody who wanted to buy any Dilaudid I said I had no idea I'd make some calls... I forgot all about it he called the next day and asked if I found anybody I said no... Then I asked what are you looking for? He asked what they were worth. I said I had no idea.... Give me $20 worth. Which turned out to be from his Gf who stole 1000 2mg tabs from some cancer patient... And $20 worth turned out to be about 60 tabs. Which lasted me about 2 days.
Soooo.... Over the next 2 months I went through about 1000 tabs iv at 6-9tabs per shot.
Went to Mexico on vacation for a cpl weeks... Came back and did my last 15 or so tabs. Next day I find out the girl is out & I'm in withdrawal... So i ended up trying h.
Are you off all opiates now? I'm still on a meth script at 80ml a day and have been for the last six months. Car wreck led to a smash leg needing metal plates which led to painkillers which led to heroin which led to methadone, etc...
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I'm so glad her๓ํn is not around in my country.. one thing I admit... the 1 year of oxy and morphine sulphate was probably the best year of my life.. but I highly regret taking it in
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Are you off all opiates now? I'm still on a meth script at 80ml a day and have been for the last six months. Car wreck led to a smash leg needing metal plates which led to painkillers which led to heroin which led to methadone, etc...
Fuck methadone. No reason you can't get off opiates but they make it difficult to acquire the essentials to do it because they want you paying out of pocket for subs or methadone indefinitely. All you need is a decent amount of gabapentin or lyrica and it gets rid of 90% of symptoms and makes it bearable.
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Fuck methadone. No reason you can't get off opiates but they make it difficult to acquire the essentials to do it because they want you paying out of pocket for subs or methadone indefinitely. All you need is a decent amount of gabapentin or lyrica and it gets rid of 90% of symptoms and makes it bearable.
Tell me about this Gabapentin stuff. I have heard of it but don't know anything about it or it's suitability for getting off opiates.
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Tell me about this Gabapentin stuff. I have heard of it but don't know anything about it or it's suitability for getting off opiates.
Gabapentin and lyrica do work for the opiates wd symptoms.. u don't know why. But they do... u took lyrica and xanax and I almost didn't have any wd. Was amazing
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Tell me about this Gabapentin stuff. I have heard of it but don't know anything about it or it's suitability for getting off opiates.
It's nerve pain and anticonvulsant medication. So you can just straight-up get off opiates and you don't have to taper with a weaker one, or whatever.
And of course, doctors are hesitant to prescribe it in the quantities required, but many people have huge bottles of this stuff in their medicine cabinet without even realizing how useful it can be.
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Tell me about this Gabapentin stuff. I have heard of it but don't know anything about it or it's suitability for getting off opiates.
Don't fuck about with GABA related stuff unless you have a real medical reason. That's not a system you want to play around with. Think about benzodiazepines, GHB, etc... GABA A receptor agonists. GABA B agonists don't cause such massive withdrawals and deleterious side effects, so I'd go this route if you really want to explore with relaxation. Muscle relaxants are shit as they're anticholinergic, make you groggy and just are no bueno. But GABA related drugs like phenibut are really awesome, let you stay sharp and are much less habit forming and addicting than benzos and shit. Gabapentin is prescribed off label for stuff like neuralgic pain, but you'd want a steady dosage and it's just not worth the time to play around with. More people would use it if there were some recreational value, health benefits or cognitive enhancement. I have tons of it sitting in my medicine cabinet that I'll recycle at the pharmacy.
In regards to opiates, just stay away. I used to do the cold water extraction with T3s in high school and it was okay. Tried stronger opiates which really opened my eyes (moreso shock, because of how fucking good it felt). I immediately knew to approach with caution and only really used it once in a very blue moon.
I had random pain pills lying around from surgeries and shit and decided to try a few different ones out of curiosity (expired pills; had a headache; wanted to see if I could hit the gym and get a light pump). You feel like god in the gym. Provided you don't nod off, get nausea or muscle weakness, you feel amazing in the gym. Opiates alone make you feel like God came down from the heavens and tucked you into bed with a bunch of adorable puppies. But it's scary, because that feeling doesn't last long and you'll probably never feel that way again, especially with increased usage. It becomes further and further out of reach and before you realize it, you NEED them just to feel like your normal, shitty self. Very, very dangerous path to go down.
If you can hack it, just smoke some fuckin' weed and hit the gym. I do psychedelics and occasionally drink and have some casual nose beers, but opiates can be some next level shit. Other "hard" drugs can be just as dangerous, but if you're all railed out or traveling through time taking xanax, it becomes pretty apparent that your life is swirling down the shitter. With opiates, your problems compound so quickly that your heads still spinning as your life crumbles around you. I had a ton of different opiates for actual pain management and surgeries, but always stopped taking them a few days after an acute event when I could basically tough it out. You take them and after a few days, the recreational value is gone, you feel "normal" or even shitty taking a steady dosage, and you can feel the physical addiction taking route. I'd always tell my doctor I'm getting pretty concerned and want to find other pain management procedures because pain killers are just a bandaid - they don't fix anything. They just create an infinite amount of problems. I'll only take them now if I'm hospitalized and in agony. Too sketchy.
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Wow, lots of good info here....thank you everyone! This is a good place to shoot the shit because we have quite a few people that have actually experienced this stuff, rolled around in the dirt and know what they are talking about. Like I say I have already gone down the opiate path much to my regret and am learning to live with the repercussions while finding the best way back from the brink. On methadone at the moment but looking at gradually reducing the dose and getting off completely. Anything that can help me achieve that I am naturally very interested in. Definitely going to do some research on Gabapentin and see what else I can find out.
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You guys scared shit out of me after reading all experience, didnt even know that stuff is that serious. But now i know for sure iam not going to give it try :-D
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Wow, lots of good info here....thank you everyone! This is a good place to shoot the shit because we have quite a few people that have actually experienced this stuff, rolled around in the dirt and know what they are talking about. Like I say I have already gone down the opiate path much to my regret and am learning to live with the repercussions while finding the best way back from the brink. On methadone at the moment but looking at gradually reducing the dose and getting off completely. Anything that can help me achieve that I am naturally very interested in. Definitely going to do some research on Gabapentin and see what else I can find out.
If it were me coming off methadone, id switch to suboxone (dose I guess would depend on how much methadone), .1mg clonidine 2x a day and 1mg klonopin 2x/day.
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You guys scared shit out of me after reading all experience, didnt even know that stuff is that serious. But now i know for sure iam not going to give it try :-D
If Tylenol & advil won't make it better, it's a sign to back off or go see a Dr.
Taking painkillers to train through pain will always lead to a much worse injury.
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If it were me coming off methadone, id switch to suboxone (dose I guess would depend on how much methadone), .1mg clonidine 2x a day and 1mg klonopin 2x/day.
Clonidine and klonopin have benzo type effects similar to valium?
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Wow, lots of good info here....thank you everyone! This is a good place to shoot the shit because we have quite a few people that have actually experienced this stuff, rolled around in the dirt and know what they are talking about. Like I say I have already gone down the opiate path much to my regret and am learning to live with the repercussions while finding the best way back from the brink. On methadone at the moment but looking at gradually reducing the dose and getting off completely. Anything that can help me achieve that I am naturally very interested in. Definitely going to do some research on Gabapentin and see what else I can find out.
What kind of opiates are u using ?
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I use Suboxone 8mg almost everyday.
they keep your ambition up
bodybuild longer and harder
take away tren sides
that's just me
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I use Suboxone 8mg almost everyday.
they keep your ambition up
bodybuild longer and harder
take away tren sides
that's just me
You know you can disolve it (and filter it through a cotton) and shoot it im/iv, right? Lol
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You know you can disolve it (and filter it through a cotton) and shoot it im/iv, right? Lol
Cold water extraction?
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NALPUPHİNE = MR OLYMPİA FAVORİTE OF TRAİNİNG 6 HOURS A DAY.. Oxycodone is pros favorite for talking with chicks and milf. Pot is their favorite for eating over 6000kcals.. Being tired is not the only reason for training pain. If you take 7grams of gear weekly of course you will have lethargy...
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I have used codein and cortisone for shoulder pain relief, but i must say that the best thing for my rotator cuffs is injectable diclofenac, plus i don't need a prescription for it in my country.
Only side are mouth ulcers if i inject it often than one every two days.
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You know you can disolve it (and filter it through a cotton) and shoot it im/iv, right? Lol
That's the best way to do it
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Cold water extraction?
It doesn't matter the water temp really.. I use warm (room temp) too speed up the meltdown of the sublingual
Suboxone Film is the best one to shoot!
The orals will make veins harder, therefor rotation of injection sites are more frequent.
In the beginning of my bodybuild I was a 212lbs heroin addict.. heroin made the bodybuild more enjoyable, but also I didn't realize until the next day I was just really fucked up. I have pictures to prove I was building a great mass body though.
Suboxone is the best. Keeps you satisfied, its longer lasting, and far more enjoyable bodybuild experience.
my 625/750mg tren sides go completely away... but they sure do come back like hell + suboxone withdrawl... my bed turns into sponge.
once you get to the darkside of bodybuilding drugs like this are needed... I don't care who you are. 300lbs + you know he takes Adderall just to perform other day duties and that's not including BP medication, pain killers, or benzos.
NO DIFFERENT THAN TAKING PRAMI, CABER FOR PROLACTIN ISSUES. SIDE EFFECTS CAN BE DEALT WITH BY TAKING OTHER DRUGS.. IF NOT THEY CAN INTERFERE WITH THE DAY TO DAY DISCIPLINES OF APPETITE, TRAINING, RESTING, COMMUNICATION, JOBS, ECT.
YOU CAN BASH THIS POST AND SAY JUST SUCK IT UP...
BUT PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LIVE THIS LIFE KNOW ITS TRUE..
I love suboxone.. my number #1 steroid that enhances my TEST/TREN/HGH/INSULIN
ONLY SIDE EFFECT from SUBOXONE... IS THAT IT MAKES IT HARD TO CUM
(just blame it on girl so she will become self conscious, and therefor she will perform better)
Case Closed.
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It doesn't matter the water temp really.. I use warm (room temp) too speed up the meltdown of the sublingual
Suboxone Film is the best one to shoot!
The orals will make veins harder, therefor rotation of injection sites are more frequent.
In the beginning of my bodybuild I was a 212lbs heroin addict.. heroin made the bodybuild more enjoyable, but also I didn't realize until the next day I was just really fucked up. I have pictures to prove I was building a great mass body though.
Suboxone is the best. Keeps you satisfied, its longer lasting, and far more enjoyable bodybuild experience.
my 625/750mg tren sides go completely away... but they sure do come back like hell + suboxone withdrawl... my bed turns into sponge.
once you get to the darkside of bodybuilding drugs like this are needed... I don't care who you are. 300lbs + you know he takes Adderall just to perform other day duties and that's not including BP medication, pain killers, or benzos.
NO DIFFERENT THAN TAKING PRAMI, CABER FOR PROLACTIN ISSUES. SIDE EFFECTS CAN BE DEALT WITH BY TAKING OTHER DRUGS.. IF NOT THEY CAN INTERFERE WITH THE DAY TO DAY DISCIPLINES OF APPETITE, TRAINING, RESTING, COMMUNICATION, JOBS, ECT.
YOU CAN BASH THIS POST AND SAY JUST SUCK IT UP...
BUT PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LIVE THIS LIFE KNOW ITS TRUE..
I love suboxone.. my number #1 steroid that enhances my TEST/TREN/HGH/INSULIN
ONLY SIDE EFFECT from SUBOXONE... IS THAT IT MAKES IT HARD TO CUM
(just blame it on girl so she will become self conscious, and therefor she will perform better)
Case Closed.
I been on suboxone for many years. I stopped feeling any high long time ago.. miss when I did
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Two face I liked you so much mate. Glad you saved yourself from this shit but men how was you a 212 lb man when a heroin addict ?
Cause even in a 1months withdrawal of codeine I cant eat enough for 5 days at least because of w/d.. I think ıt will depend to person to person. But lots of pros I have heard abuse weak opiods generally.
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Two face I liked you so much mate. Glad you saved yourself from this shit but men how was you a 212 lb man when a heroin addict ?
Cause even in a 1months withdrawal of codeine I cant eat enough for 5 days at least because of w/d.. I think ıt will depend to person to person. But lots of pros I have heard abuse weak opiods generally.
I was 230lbs heavily addicted to cocaine.. I used it also iv along with ritalin. Sp it's possible
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I been on suboxone for many years. I stopped feeling any high long time ago.. miss when I did
Suboxone has a ceiling effect... When you take the doses as required, you're body will become used to it, therefor you wont feel any different...
BUT!! You will certainly will feel withdrawal because you're body is so used to receiving the medication..
Once you feel withdrawal symptoms.. That's when the dopamine receptors are empty.. and even a quarter of suboxone IV'ed will bring back that high feeling..
Its all about emptying the receptors and taking small amounts to enjoy, and repeat
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Two face I liked you so much mate. Glad you saved yourself from this shit but men how was you a 212 lb man when a heroin addict ?
Cause even in a 1months withdrawal of codeine I cant eat enough for 5 days at least because of w/d.. I think ıt will depend to person to person. But lots of pros I have heard abuse weak opiods generally.
The answer is simple.. Whenever, I get that heroin dose (now suboxone dose) that's like my pre-workout..
I become pumped and want to destroy weights..
No difference than Coleman, etc. who were taking painkillers back then
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How do you extract naloxone from bupe tabs. I'm not gonna shoot myself I God to swear
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You dont. The bupe overpowers it.
You can take suboxone in the morning and take painkillers(heroin in my case) in the afternoon and still feel tje painkillers and not get sick.. However do it the opposite and youll have the worst withdrawal youve ever had.
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I should've went the suboxone route....I'm now weenin down on methadone 18mg a day,was on 90 last year.....doctor will only bump it down 1 mg a week for WD reasons.....can't wait till I'm off this shit....steroids is why I stopped my oxy addiction , sounds weird but it did help! Nice to hear others that went or are going through same situations......
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Suboxone (for me) is one of the best drugs for bodybuilding, and living life.
I finally saw my DR the other day, and got my scripts of Subs, Amphetamine Salts 30mg (strongest speed on the market) and clonzopams (kpins)
I am also on the following PED's
TREN 750mg
SUST 750mg
Lantus 50iu AM (TRAINING DAYS ONLY NON TRAINING 20iu)
Humalog Flex Pin 10-20iu with every meal.
HGH 5iu ED
I was feeling sick due to the lack of suboxone in my dopamine receptors.. so I saw the DR, and immediately went to gym the next day.
My appetite came back
no more sweating paranoia trenbolone sides
I decided to make it a "push day" CHEST, DELTOIDS, TRICEPS
Unbelievable strength, and my delts were the biggest they ever have been.. and the workout was simple.. all due to the suboxone it increased my intensity.
2 days ago I was a no appetite 220lbs
now I'm 230lbs
thanks you suboxone!
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Going back on tren next week....been a year and a half since I been on it! Going from test deca.....out with deca and adding tren and mast.....wife fucking hates me on tren so I gonna draw it out put it in deca vial!! I miss that tren look nothing compares!! First time with mast also, only one I haven't tried yet !!