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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: FitnessFrenzy on December 19, 2016, 09:46:17 AM
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www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/19/russian-ambassador-to-turkey-wounded-in-ankara-shooting-attack
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Can't be good...
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Oof... These terrorists will regret poking the bear...
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Turkey is going to end up like Syria within the upcoming years.
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Turkey is going to end up like Syria within the upcoming years.
After seeing the prison life scenes in Midnight Express, I've never liked Turkey or wanted to visit.
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MICA
Make Istanbul Constantinople Again
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Turkey is on the verge of collapse then terrorism has officially entered Europe.
If Putin feels like he can defend himself without further sanctions thanks to Trump...hierarchy will be restored...the Turks already killed a Russian pilot unnecessarily. The had Obamas backing but now that party is over.
Btw when I lived in Germany where there are a lot of Turks and US army bases...I noticed the Turks had an unbalanced overly hateful approach towards Americans.
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Russia is re-assuming more active role in the world and needs to ramp up the security of its officials accordingly.
It's ridiculous at the moment. Even many high ranking officials toil around like common people.
Time to apply the Soviet doctrine:
Six years later, in October 1985, Alpha Group was dispatched to war-torn Beirut, Lebanon. The Kremlin was informed of the kidnapping of four Soviet diplomats by the militant group, the Islamic Liberation Organization (a radical offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood). It was believed that this was retaliation for the Soviet support of Syrian involvement in the Lebanese Civil War.[19] However, by the time Alpha arrived, one of the hostages had already been killed. Through a network of supporting KGB operatives, members of the task-force identified each of the perpetrators involved in the crisis, and once identified, began to take the relatives of these militants as hostages. Following the standard Soviet policy of no negotiations with terrorists, one of the hostages taken by Alpha Group had his testicles removed and sent to the militants before being killed. The warning was clear: more would follow unless the remaining hostages were released immediately.[20] The show of force worked, and for a period of 20 years no Soviet or Russian officials were taken captive, until the 2006 abduction and murder of four Russian embassy staff in Iraq.
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After seeing the prison life scenes in Midnight Express, I've never liked Turkey or wanted to visit.
I've been twice as I used to date a Turkish girl. It was quite nice when I visited although it helped that I was with someone who knew the language and culture.
It's become very fragmented now. Half the population (including it's President) wants to send the country down a more Islamic route, while the other half wants it to be the secular nation built by Ataturk. Then you've also got the Kurdish grievance on top of that.
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You have to remember the real Turks are from east of the Oxus, basically a load of low IQ hill-billy horsemen. Then you have the Eastern Roman empire types in Istanbul...
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https://twitter.com/esheikh_/status/810909153581473793 (https://twitter.com/esheikh_/status/810909153581473793)
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2016 nearly at an end and people still believe in this "Allah" oh brotherrrrrrrrrrrr
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Illiterate muzzie babled forever until someone put a bullet in his head.
I bet American ambassador in muzzie country don't go public without American security around.
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Killer is identified as a 22 yo riot police from Ankara, Turkey.
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I've been twice as I used to date a Turkish girl. It was quite nice when I visited although it helped that I was with someone who knew the language and culture.
It's become very fragmented now. Half the population (including it's President) wants to send the country down a more Islamic route, while the other half wants it to be the secular nation built by Ataturk. Then you've also got the Kurdish grievance on top of that.
how hairy would you say she was on a scale from 1-10?
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was Karlov saved ?
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security / police took long enough to down that Rouge cop
he could of shot a lot more.
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Ankara, #Turkey - ongoing security incident near US Embassy. All US citizens should avoid area near Embassy compound until further notice.
https://twitter.com/TravelGov/status/810900465336598528
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Killer is identified as a 22 yo riot police from Ankara, Turkey.
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hope he burns in hell
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hope he burns in hell
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72 getbiggers
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No way Stalin would have allowed this to happen.
BREAKING: Erdogan 'makes DESPERATE call to Putin' after Russian ambassador's assassination
RECEP Erdogan has made a panicked phone call to Vladimir Putin after the killing of Russia's ambassador to Turkey, sources claim.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/745315/Andrei-Karlov-Recep-Erdogan-Vladimir-Putin-Ankara-Turkey-Russia
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Shouting in Arabic and Turkish, oh brother. As its already been said in this thread, I'm just reiterating it. Religion of peace.
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72 getbiggers
The average Getbigger is in shape. That looks more like your typical Reddit poster.
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Putin reacts. Very Putinish; calm as fuck, no blinking.
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hope he burns in hell
he will, like all muzzies
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Quite some balls to do it like that. Gunman knew he was going to be killed.
Putin has ruined the Russian economy. USA should increase oil production so their enemies will get less money through much lower oil prices.
High oil price = loads of money for the enemies of the US of A
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Quite some balls to do it like that. Gunman knew he was going to be killed.
Putin has ruined the Russian economy. USA should increase oil production so their enemies will get less money through much lower oil prices.
High oil price = loads of money for the enemies of the US of A
This will happen once the socialist muslim chimp is out of the WH.
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Quite some balls to do it like that. Gunman knew he was going to be killed.
Putin has ruined the Russian economy. USA should increase oil production so their enemies will get less money through much lower oil prices.
High oil price = loads of money for the enemies of the US of A
We're already the highest producing nation.
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By tomorrow, Obama and Merkel will be publicly defending Islam.
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Quite some balls to do it like that. Gunman knew he was going to be killed.
Putin has ruined the Russian economy. USA should increase oil production so their enemies will get less money through much lower oil prices.
High oil price = loads of money for the enemies of the US of A
Putin has ruined nothing.
Gdp has declined less than that of many euro countries during the ongoing recession.
And Russia was kicking ass well before oil was needed anywhere. The current crash of oil price doesn't seem to slow them down much. Quite the opposite.
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Putin has ruined nothing.
Gdp has declined less than that of many euro countries during the ongoing recession.
And Russia was kicking ass well before oil was needed anywhere. The current crash of oil price doesn't seem to slow them down much. Quite the opposite.
Mass, I very much wonder if this is accurate. You got info/stats?
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2016 nearly at an end and people still believe in this "Allah" oh brotherrrrrrrrrrrr
It lets you kill whomever you want
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Putin has ruined nothing.
Gdp has declined less than that of many euro countries during the ongoing recession.
And Russia was kicking ass well before oil was needed anywhere. The current crash of oil price doesn't seem to slow them down much. Quite the opposite.
No shit. People have been saying Russia is dying for centuries. Meanwhile, they're still chugging and the Western European clowns are being overtaken by third worlders.
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Putin should nuke turkey.
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Looks like there was a magazine failure. Probably aftermarket
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Looks like there was a magazine failure. Probably aftermarket
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Or a cz
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fake false flag
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Quite some balls to do it like that. Gunman knew he was going to be killed.
Putin has ruined the Russian economy. USA should increase oil production so their enemies will get less money through much lower oil prices.
High oil price = loads of money for the enemies of the US of A
Of course, most of those people have huge conviction and death is nothing they fear (especially since they believe they will meet 72 Getbiggers in after-life).
For some, after-life may even sound better than their current life.
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And what has Russia done but cause more bloodshed in Syria? Over 400, 000 people have died, fuck has Russia done. Don't tell me stopping ISIS because again fuck all has been done to squash them, instead they are supporting Asad. I could give two fucks about Asad and hope that fucked gets burned alive for fuck sake the civilian casualties are insane.
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And what has Russia done but cause more bloodshed in Syria? Over 400, 000 people have died, fuck has Russia done. Don't tell me stopping ISIS because again fuck all has been done to squash them, instead they are supporting Asad. I could give two fucks about Asad and hope that fucked gets burned alive for fuck sake the civilian casualties are insane.
Do you not find it convenient how the west all of a sudden is reporting all the casualties and the plight of the poor people of Syria? Now that a polar opposite is doing the work?
WHERE WAS ALL THIS JOURNALISM when Blair and Bush caused 1million casualties in the Iraq war, we never saw children covered in dust and bleeding sitting in ambulances? And someone from the BBC or FOX saying look what Blair and Bush are doing. And daily reports of deaths of the Iraqi civilians post operation Shock n Awe where the US rained bombs on Iraq. You think those bombs were selective in their target somehow they dropped on densely populated civilian cities like Baghdad.
I don't want to rant but you see where I'm going with this. Our own leaders are the most unethical slithering snakes of them all and they don't even give a shit about you. Don't be an easily distracted manipulated sheep.
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I don't want to rant but you see where I'm going with this. Our own leaders are the most unethical slithering snakes of them all and they don't even give a shit about you. Don't be an easily distracted manipulated sheep.
The Politicians and Leaders of State that AREN'T Unethical slitherling snakes are a minority.
Can never trust a politician or the Powers that be.
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And what has Russia done but cause more bloodshed in Syria? Over 400, 000 people have died, fuck has Russia done. Don't tell me stopping ISIS because again fuck all has been done to squash them, instead they are supporting Asad. I could give two fucks about Asad and hope that fucked gets burned alive for fuck sake the civilian casualties are insane.
Are you a moron or what??? You still believe the Media lies in 2016 going on 2017???? Wake the fuck up!!!!
I have spoken with someone from Turkey and they want Assad. It's the globalist elite that financed the mercenaries to go fight Assad and they created ISIS. Putin and Russia were the only sane ones in the whole mess that is Syria.
Let me give you a hint. The globalists created ISIS, created the refugees in Syria, and then turned around and sent those same refugees to Germany and Europe. All by design. And here you are blaming Assad / Russia.
Iraq was better off with Sadam in power (heard this first hand from a person who lived in Iraq prior to USA invasion) and so will Syria be. Don't believe the lies of the Media and the globalists that control them.
The globalists are the enemies of humanity. They should be hunted down one by one, tortured and impaled. Their bloodlines should be wiped out. A jihad should be declared on them all. End goal: extermination. However long it takes. Total extermination!
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Do you not find it convenient how the west all of a sudden is reporting all the casualties and the plight of the poor people of Syria? Now that a polar opposite is doing the work?
WHERE WAS ALL THIS JOURNALISM when Blair and Bush caused 1million casualties in the Iraq war, we never saw children covered in dust and bleeding sitting in ambulances? And someone from the BBC or FOX saying look what Blair and Bush are doing. And daily reports of deaths of the Iraqi civilians post operation Shock n Awe where the US rained bombs on Iraq. You think those bombs were selective in their target somehow they dropped on densely populated civilian cities like Baghdad.
I don't want to rant but you see where I'm going with this. Our own leaders are the most unethical slithering snakes of them all and they don't even give a shit about you. Don't be an easily distracted manipulated sheep.
Exactly. These so called "leaders" of the west are all fucking traitors. And you know what the penalty is for Treason!!!
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Mass, I very much wonder if this is accurate. You got info/stats?
Well, I think it's evident by looking how much they have increased the activity abroad in the past two to three years. It is at post-soviet highs. During The period oil prices have been very low.
No one is denying Russia needs to work its economy. Even Putin admits this.
But it's not like country like that would totally stall due to low oil prices. Remember in 90s government was receiving basically no income and what was left was stolen. They still started campaign in chechnya and even managed to put foot in Serbia, even though failing to prevent US led partition of it.
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False flag by the Bush admin to draw attention away from the failing state of the IFBB and FLEX magazine.
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And what has Russia done but cause more bloodshed in Syria? Over 400, 000 people have died, fuck has Russia done. Don't tell me stopping ISIS because again fuck all has been done to squash them, instead they are supporting Asad. I could give two fucks about Asad and hope that fucked gets burned alive for fuck sake the civilian casualties are insane.
WTF are you talking about? Assad is the legitimate ruler of Syria and has support from the majority of Syrians. Under him, Syria is a secular nation in which people of all religions were living together peacefully.
The rebels are just Islamic Sunni extremists who wish to turn Syria into another Sharia state. They hate Assad purely because he is a Shia Alawite. These rebels were propped by the US who also dislike Assad because he isn't an ass kisser to Israel. They would much rather Syria fall into the hands of hardcore Islamists as long as it serves their own interests.
Russia and Assad have done a terrific job fighting the Jihadist scum. Thanks to Putin, IS is nowhere near as strong as they were a few years back. There are no "moderate" rebel groups. All of them are driven by a similar ideology.
Civilian casualties are unfortunate but it's a fucking war. Innocent deaths are unavoidable, especially since cities like Aleppo are densely populated.
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Obama's retaliation for the fake Russian hacking?
Of course not, he doesn't have balls that big, nor the brains to think of such a plan. He's a stupid pussy. Too busy getting high and pardoning criminals.
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Quite some balls to do it like that. Gunman knew he was going to be killed.
Putin has ruined the Russian economy. USA should increase oil production so their enemies will get less money through much lower oil prices.
High oil price = loads of money for the enemies of the US of A
Fukk off you little Scando FAGG0T
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Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
That's what I wanna know.
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And what has Russia done but cause more bloodshed in Syria? Over 400, 000 people have died, fuck has Russia done. Don't tell me stopping ISIS because again fuck all has been done to squash them, instead they are supporting Asad. I could give two fucks about Asad and hope that fucked gets burned alive for fuck sake the civilian casualties are insane.
So you support the American/EU backed, armed, and trained, rebels?
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438605/hillary-clinton-wikileaks-benghazi-scandal-arm-syrian-rebels-al-qaeda-isis-libya-turkey (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438605/hillary-clinton-wikileaks-benghazi-scandal-arm-syrian-rebels-al-qaeda-isis-libya-turkey)
Are you planning an oil pipeline through Syria as well?
And why are you sympathizing with terrorists?
Do have the urge to drive a truck through large crowds?
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And why are you sympathizing with terrorists?
Do have the urge to drive a truck through large crowds?
I have an urge to drive a truck over his body.
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looks like Arce...
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WTF are you talking about? Assad is the legitimate ruler of Syria and has support from the majority of Syrians. Under him, Syria is a secular nation in which people of all religions were living together peacefully.
The rebels are just Islamic Sunni extremists who wish to turn Syria into another Sharia state. They hate Assad purely because he is a Shia Alawite. These rebels were propped by the US who also dislike Assad because he isn't an ass kisser to Israel. They would much rather Syria fall into the hands of hardcore Islamists as long as it serves their own interests.
Russia and Assad have done a terrific job fighting the Jihadist scum. Thanks to Putin, IS is nowhere near as strong as they were a few years back. There are no "moderate" rebel groups. All of them are driven by a similar ideology.
Civilian casualties are unfortunate but it's a fucking war. Innocent deaths are unavoidable, especially since cities like Aleppo are densely populated.
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One just needs to look at this picture of the Syrian capital Damascus taken March 2016, people men and women are free to lead a normal life. You will not see this under Western backed rebel area and definitely not under ISIS controlled areas, just religious oppression and murder on the streets.
If you were in Syria I'm sure it'll be an easy choice who you'd want to live under.
Obama removed Guaddafi, a moderate Muslim and the country is riddled with Isis now. ISIS was created by the west, so when they cross over and murder civilians don't blame Islam, blame your retarded leaders....they are the root cause and directly responsible.
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The Russians are no good. The Japanese are no good. The Americans are no good. Europeans are no good. Chinese are no good. No one is any good except Muslims. They're God's gift.
You'd think God would give us a gift that smelled a little better.
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The Russians are no good. The Japanese are no good. The Americans are no good. Europeans are no good. Chinese are no good. No one is any good except Muslims. They're God's gift.
You'd think God would give us a gift that smelled a little better.
They sell a purfume for that;
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One just needs to look at this picture of the Syrian capital Damascus taken March 2016, people men and women are free to lead a normal life. You will not see this under Western backed rebel area and definitely not under ISIS controlled areas, just religious oppression and murder on the streets.
If you were in Syria I'm sure it'll be an easy choice who you'd want to live under.
Obama removed Guaddafi, a moderate Muslim and the country is riddled with Isis now. ISIS was created by the west, so when they cross over and murder civilians don't blame Islam, blame your retarded leaders....they are the root cause and directly responsible.
Regarding the Middle East, I'm as non-interventionist as they come, but let's not pretend these countries would be paradises were it not for outsiders.
Syria under Assad is a Socialist shithole with per capita GDP on par with an African country:
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/syria/gdp-per-capita
The Gross Domestic Product per capita in Syria was last recorded at 1700.39 US dollars in 2010. The GDP per Capita in Syria is equivalent to 13 percent of the world's average. GDP per capita in Syria averaged 1147.70 USD from 1960 until 2010, reaching an all time high of 1700.39 USD in 2010 and a record low of 563.07 USD in 1960.
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Regarding the Middle East, I'm as non-interventionist as they come, but let's not pretend these countries would be paradises were it not for outsiders.
Syria under Assad is a Socialist shithole with per capita GDP on par with an African country:
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/syria/gdp-per-capita
The Gross Domestic Product per capita in Syria was last recorded at 1700.39 US dollars in 2010. The GDP per Capita in Syria is equivalent to 13 percent of the world's average. GDP per capita in Syria averaged 1147.70 USD from 1960 until 2010, reaching an all time high of 1700.39 USD in 2010 and a record low of 563.07 USD in 1960.
depends on when you start counting outsiders,
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If Syria falls to the 'rebels', the chaos will spread and most of the region will be in terrorist control.
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So the cameraman was just chilling, doing close ups... panning.. zooming in and out... all the while this supposed mad man just killed someone and is waving around a gun screaming?
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Guy at the podium gets shot and his collar blows up and out, ... no head shots anywhere... barely any blood.....
sorry this smells funny....
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One just needs to look at this picture of the Syrian capital Damascus taken March 2016, people men and women are free to lead a normal life. You will not see this under Western backed rebel area and definitely not under ISIS controlled areas, just religious oppression and murder on the streets.
If you were in Syria I'm sure it'll be an easy choice who you'd want to live under.
Obama removed Guaddafi, a moderate Muslim and the country is riddled with Isis now. ISIS was created by the west, so when they cross over and murder civilians don't blame Islam, blame your retarded leaders....they are the root cause and directly responsible.
Interesting point of view --
Do you really believe There is No Problem with The Muslim religion.?
And that the west is to blame for everything.?
I would be the first to say there are & have long been a lot of very underhand
things go on by western governments - to there own people & the countries of many others.
Though the same can be said for every government.
What they say & what they do -- very different.
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The middle east is a "shithole" and should have never been touched - let these people dance to their own tune. The west should have simply annihilated them or payed a due price for resources and sealed itself off. Lotsa should but I see the "well meaning" intermingling as a phony recipe for disaster.
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Interesting point of view --
Do you really believe There is No Problem with The Muslim religion.?
And that the west is to blame for everything.?
I would be the first to say there are & have long been a lot of very underhand
things go on by western governments - to there own people & the countries of many others.
Though the same can be said for every government.
What they say & what they do -- very different.
I believe if a foreign power invaded america ala Red Dawn, Americans would not act any differently than the Muslims do.
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The middle east is a "shithole" and should have never been touched - let these people dance to their own tune. The west should have simply annihilated them or payed a due price for resources and sealed itself off. Lotsa should but I see the "well meaning" intermingling as a phony recipe for disaster.
100% agree.
There was a reason military regimes and dictatorships controlled the region, without them those areas fall into violence and chaos, the leaders understood that.
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So the cameraman was just chilling, doing close ups... panning.. zooming in and out... all the while this supposed mad man just killed someone and is waving around a gun screaming?
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Guy at the podium gets shot and his collar blows up and out, ... no head shots anywhere... barely any blood.....
sorry this smells funny....
What do you think happens when someone gets shot by a handgun? This body explodes?
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Regarding the Middle East, I'm as non-interventionist as they come, but let's not pretend these countries would be paradises were it not for outsiders.
Syria under Assad is a Socialist shithole with per capita GDP on par with an African country:
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/syria/gdp-per-capita
The Gross Domestic Product per capita in Syria was last recorded at 1700.39 US dollars in 2010. The GDP per Capita in Syria is equivalent to 13 percent of the world's average. GDP per capita in Syria averaged 1147.70 USD from 1960 until 2010, reaching an all time high of 1700.39 USD in 2010 and a record low of 563.07 USD in 1960.
I don't think anyone's claiming that Syria is a paradise under Assad. However, it was a country in which people of all religions were treated equally and where Islamic laws were not the laws of the land. The uprising against Assad was led and driven by militant Salafi's yet was supported by the Western nations (who claim to be fighting terrorism at the same time). It seems that things may now change with Trump in power though.
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I don't think anyone's claiming that Syria is a paradise under Assad. However, it was a country in which people of all religions were treated equally and where Islamic laws were not the laws of the land. The uprising against Assad was led and driven by militant Salafi's yet was supported by the Western nations (who claim to be fighting terrorism at the same time). It seems that things may now change with Trump in power though.
I agree, though I cannot understand the West's reasoning or strategy for supporting these 'rebels'.
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I agree, though I cannot understand the West's reasoning or strategy for supporting these 'rebels'.
A naïve mentality that if we overthrow these dictators, Jeffersonian democracies would spring up.
The reality is that they tried turning chicken sh!t into chicken salad with the typical results.
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I agree, though I cannot understand the West's reasoning or strategy for supporting these 'rebels'.
I think it is purely because they wish to see Assad overthrown. Therefore, they are happy to support anyone who is willing to do the dirty work. I'm not sure the exact reason as to why they wish to get rid of Assad. It could be down to him being critical of America's pet, Israel. I've also heard that Assad refuses to allow a pipeline being built across Syria which stems from Saudi.
Assad gave an interesting interview following Trump's victory. He's seems aware of the power held by lobby groups in the US.
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Obama's retaliation for the fake Russian hacking?
Of course not, he doesn't have balls that big, nor the brains to think of such a plan. He's a stupid pussy. Too busy getting high and pardoning criminals.
I think USA wouldn't kill Russian ambassador as retaliation.
That seems to be out of options for "normal" countries. Even for abnormal. Diplomatic missions remain quite well respected and untouched.
For a good reason.
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I think it is purely because they wish to see Assad overthrown. Therefore, they are happy to support anyone who is willing to do the dirty work. I'm not sure the exact reason as to why they wish to get rid of Assad. It could be down to him being critical of America's pet, Israel. I've also heard that Assad refuses to allow a pipeline being built across Syria which stems from Saudi.
Assad gave an interesting interview following Trump's victory. He's seems aware of the power held by lobby groups in the US.
The latter makes more sense. Why else would the Russians give a shit about Assad?
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I think USA wouldn't kill Russian ambassador as retaliation.
That seems to be out of options for "normal" countries. Even for abnormal. Diplomatic missions remain quite well respected and untouched.
For a good reason.
It wasn't a nation that killed him though. It was an individual. Russia's role in assisting Assad will unfortunately, make Russian diplomats (and Russia in general) a target for terrorists.
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The latter makes more sense. Why else would the Russians give a shit about Assad?
Russia generally appear to be quite friendly with the Shia Muslim nations and groups. Assad, Iran and Hezbollah are all on good terms with Putin. It's also worth noting that when the uprising began in Syria, many Chechen Islamists travelled to Syria to fight with the rebellion (or join IS). Russia may have so it as an opportunity to get rid of their own terrorists by assisting the Syrian government.
Putin is much admired by Shia Muslims.
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It wasn't a nation that killed him though. It was an individual. Russia's role in assisting Assad will unfortunately, make Russian diplomats (and Russia in general) a target for terrorists.
Yes, that's correct.
One can't do what Russia is doing and walk around like being Iceland.
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A naïve mentality that if we overthrow these dictators, Jeffersonian democracies would spring up.
The reality is that they tried turning chicken sh!t into chicken salad with the typical results.
You nailed it. The US has to get out the regime changing business. When we supported the over throw in Egypt they got the Muslim Brotherhood in and they promptly when on a killing spree of Christians. When we gave 500 million in arms to the resistance rebels in Syria look at the result. ISIS has those arms and Syria's cities are destroyed. Libya is another country that is in chaos because of American intervention. Muslims don't want western democracies. They need dictators to keep the savages in line.
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After seeing the prison life scenes in Midnight Express, I've never liked Turkey or wanted to visit.
Midnight Express movie was made by Armenian, even the actors were from Armenia...purpose was to show Turkey as bad as possible
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A naïve mentality that if we overthrow these dictators, Jeffersonian democracies would spring up.
The reality is that they tried turning chicken sh!t into chicken salad with the typical results.
has any of these regime changes ever panned out? panama i guess?
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Meeting of Iranian, Turkish and Russian foreign ministers went on today in Moscow as planned. Syria was on agenda.
RUSSIA, IRAN AND TURKEY PUSH FOR SYRIA PEACE PLAN WITHOUT US OR UN
http://www.euronews.com/2016/12/20/russia-iran-and-turkey-push-for-syria-peace-plan-without-us-or-un
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Americans react:
McFaul: 'Not a Good Thing' for U.S. to Be Left Out of Russia-Iran-Turkey Peace Talks
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/mcfaul-not-good-thing-us-be-left-out-russia-iran-turkey-peace-talks
Former U.S. Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul described Tuesday's meeting in Moscow as a "very strange combination to be talking about peace in Syria."
The fact that the United States was not there "is not a good thing, in my view," McFaul told MSNBC's "Morning Joe" on Tuesday.
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I believe if a foreign power invaded america ala Red Dawn, Americans would not act any differently than the Muslims do.
Hmmm - you would hope not.
Though it's very likely they would.
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Hmmm - you would hope not.
Though it's very likely they would.
LOL
Like any American or European would want to live in the Middle East.
Conversely, if you held a green card lottery in the Middle East, even in the absence of war, there would be tens of millions of applicants.
The Middle East is a shithole. Outside interventions just stir the shit:
The couple of big numbers are in oil rich countries with tiny populations:
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Regarding the Middle East, I'm as non-interventionist as they come, but let's not pretend these countries would be paradises were it not for outsiders.
Syria under Assad is a Socialist shithole with per capita GDP on par with an African country:
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/syria/gdp-per-capita
The Gross Domestic Product per capita in Syria was last recorded at 1700.39 US dollars in 2010. The GDP per Capita in Syria is equivalent to 13 percent of the world's average. GDP per capita in Syria averaged 1147.70 USD from 1960 until 2010, reaching an all time high of 1700.39 USD in 2010 and a record low of 563.07 USD in 1960.
No they're not. Arabs are a difficult and volatile breed...and that's between each other. Islam spread through wars anyway, so all this jihad is just muslims doing what they always did. Add to it western meddling and fuck ups and the problem is made worse.
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No they're not. Arabs are a difficult and volatile breed...and that's between each other. Islam spread through wars anyway, so all this jihad is just muslims doing what they always did. Add to it western meddling and fuck ups and the problem is made worse.
you think Christianity was spread through flowers and hugs?
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So you support the American/EU backed, armed, and trained, rebels?
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438605/hillary-clinton-wikileaks-benghazi-scandal-arm-syrian-rebels-al-qaeda-isis-libya-turkey (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438605/hillary-clinton-wikileaks-benghazi-scandal-arm-syrian-rebels-al-qaeda-isis-libya-turkey)
Are you planning an oil pipeline through Syria as well?
And why are you sympathizing with terrorists?
Do have the urge to drive a truck through large crowds?
Who the fuck said I support the US' efforts, it's all bullshit smoke and mirrors. Assad an Putin have both done fuck all at stopping ISIS. Who pays? Civilians, many of whom are children, that is the bottom line. All these so called leaders are lying scum who do nothing unless it bets them something
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Who the fuck said I support the US' efforts, it's all bullshit smoke and mirrors. Assad an Putin have both done fuck all at stopping ISIS. Who pays? Civilians, many of whom are children, that is the bottom line. All these so called leaders are lying scum who do nothing unless it bets them something
You're wrong. IS have suffered heavy losses over the past few years because of Putin and Assad. They are now barely clinging onto the territory they hold and struggle to make advancements. Civilians are bound to get killed in a warzone. You seem to talk as though such things can be easily avoided. They can't.
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you think Christianity was spread through flowers and hugs?
That's a good point...
The only difference is as a species/ global society We are Supposed to have Advanced.
Emphasis on 'Supposed' -- In so many areas we clearly Have Not.
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you think Christianity was spread through flowers and hugs?
bullshit statement
That's a good point...
The only difference is as a species/ global society We are Supposed to have Advanced.
Emphasis on 'Supposed' -- In so many areas we clearly Have Not.
equally dimwitted response
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by by category 8+ earthquake.
And this is the height of your intellect..... ::)
Just give up posting.
HTH.
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And this is the height of your intellect..... ::)
Just give up posting.
HTH.
don't you think it's time you left home and got a job?
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Who the fuck said I support the US' efforts, it's all bullshit smoke and mirrors. Assad an Putin have both done fuck all at stopping ISIS. Who pays? Civilians, many of whom are children, that is the bottom line. All these so called leaders are lying scum who do nothing unless it bets them something
You're right... Leaderless anarchy would be much better. Surely no kids would be harmed by a self-governing people. ::)
سبحان الله
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You're right... Leaderless anarchy would be much better. Surely no kids would be harmed by a self-governing people. ::)
سبحان الله
Exactly what I was going after, you are so incredibly brilliant ::)
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That's a good point...
The only difference is as a species/ global society We are Supposed to have Advanced.
Emphasis on 'Supposed' -- In so many areas we clearly Have Not.
not really advanced, just become less observant. christians and jews have just invented bullshit rules to not follow the bible to a T, Islam hasn't just yet.
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Body of ambassador arrived in Moscow.
Met by Russian and Turkish foreign ministers at airport.
Meanwhile Pushkov says USA is basically out of Syria.
‘Obama administration lost its game in Syria’ – Russian senator Pushkov
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LOL, where is this pussy originating?
His name Cuntzman indicates might well be from place Russia has once (or twice) rolled over. Understanding the butthurt if your grandfather was sent to Siberia to eat grass and make tank parts for glorious Red Army which ran over your village.
But I don't think Russian ambassador was scared. Unlike many others, Russians are not known for being scared.
Look at this Dagestani policeman - posthumously given order of Hero of Russia - facing his end in hands of muzzie scum. No fear in his eyes.
Muzzies tried to make him denounce his allegiances. He refused till the end.
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Cup of special tea - the polonium label - coming to Mr. Cuntzman ?
Justifying terrorism must be treated as actual attacks – Russian senators
https://www.rt.com/politics/371411-justifying-terrorism-must-be-treated/
Nah, don't worry Cuntman. You are far from being that important.