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Title: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Royalty on December 30, 2016, 06:50:52 AM
I decided to end 2016 the right way. I watched the classic film that parallels GetBig in many ways. Insecurity, jealousy, fitness, obsession with image, drug usage, confusion, materialism, view of women, humor, deception, living in an alternate reality,  pretending to be somebody else, night clubs, obsession with diet, delusions of violent behavior, ect...

all within 2 hours
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Simple Simon on December 30, 2016, 06:52:02 AM
book is 10 times the film ever was....
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Simple Simon on December 30, 2016, 06:52:56 AM
oh, and by the way, Patrick didnt kill anyone, it was all in his mind....
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: SuperTed on December 30, 2016, 06:57:24 AM
Bale was in impressive shape for the role

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Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Taffin on December 30, 2016, 07:12:01 AM
book is 10 times the film ever was....

Agree 100%.  Caught the film by accident the first time at the business card scene and was hooked.  Then bought the book which was incredible and much better (even though the film was great)
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: NelsonMuntz on December 30, 2016, 07:40:13 AM
 :)

I live in a Trailer Park 1 mile west of the Florida Turnpike. My name is Shizzo. I'm 37 years old. I am total slob, with a diet of hot pockets and a lack of rigorous exercise. In the morning, my face is as usual a little puffy from drinking too much and posting the night before, so I'll put on an ice pack while doing my stomach crunches. I can do about five now. After I remove the ice pack, I have a couple of shots of Vodka. In the shower, I use hand soap I stole from a local garage washroom.Then I scrub the nicotine stains off my fingers with the same brush I use to brush my tooth. And then I apply the vagisal to my sore anus. After my shower I log onto GetBig for the first time of many today while I prepare the rest of my routine which will consist of drinking, posting, and pestering Ron to make me a mod.I frown and panic as I notice I only got one response and 8 views to my latest thread complaining about Gimmicks. There is an idea of a Shizzo, as some kind of joke, but there is no real Shizzo. Only an online persona, something illusory, no matter how hard and pathetically I try. And though I can hide my lack of a life beyond GetBig, and you can alter my posts, and  feel pity that I will go to any lengths to get attention even sucking a cock and maybe you can even sense relief our life styles are probably Not comparable, I simply am not all there.
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: wes on December 30, 2016, 07:51:39 AM
:)

I live in a Trailer Park 1 mile west of the Florida Turnpike. My name is Shizzo. I'm 37 years old. I am total slob, with a diet of hot pockets and a lack of rigorous exercise. In the morning, my face is as usual a little puffy from drinking too much and posting the night before, so I'll put on an ice pack while doing my stomach crunches. I can do about five now. After I remove the ice pack, I have a couple of shots of Vodka. In the shower, I use hand soap I stole from a local garage washroom.Then I scrub the nicotine stains off my fingers with the same brush I use to brush my tooth. And then I apply the vagisal to my sore anus. After my shower I log onto GetBig for the first time of many today while I prepare the rest of my routine which will consist of drinking, posting, and pestering Ron to make me a mod.I frown and panic as I notice I only got one response and 8 views to my latest thread complaining about Gimmicks. There is an idea of a Shizzo, as some kind of joke, but there is no real Shizzo. Only an online persona, something illusory, no matter how hard and pathetically I try. And though I can hide my lack of a life beyond GetBig, and you can alter my posts, and  feel pity that I will go to any lengths to get attention even sucking a cock and maybe you can even sense relief our life styles are probably Not comparable, I simply am not all there.
Just laughed until I cried dude!!   LOL  :)
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: heenok on December 30, 2016, 08:07:15 AM
book is 10 times the film ever was....

This.
Sad how people dont realise how most good movies are book adaptation. And most of the time the books are a hundred times better.
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Royalty on December 30, 2016, 08:28:18 AM
:)

I live in a Trailer Park 1 mile west of the Florida Turnpike. My name is Shizzo. I'm 37 years old. I am total slob, with a diet of hot pockets and a lack of rigorous exercise. In the morning, my face is as usual a little puffy from drinking too much and posting the night before, so I'll put on an ice pack while doing my stomach crunches. I can do about five now. After I remove the ice pack, I have a couple of shots of Vodka. In the shower, I use hand soap I stole from a local garage washroom.Then I scrub the nicotine stains off my fingers with the same brush I use to brush my tooth. And then I apply the vagisal to my sore anus. After my shower I log onto GetBig for the first time of many today while I prepare the rest of my routine which will consist of drinking, posting, and pestering Ron to make me a mod.I frown and panic as I notice I only got one response and 8 views to my latest thread complaining about Gimmicks. There is an idea of a Shizzo, as some kind of joke, but there is no real Shizzo. Only an online persona, something illusory, no matter how hard and pathetically I try. And though I can hide my lack of a life beyond GetBig, and you can alter my posts, and  feel pity that I will go to any lengths to get attention even sucking a cock and maybe you can even sense relief our life styles are probably Not comparable, I simply am not all there.

That was great

5 crunches  ;D

"Brush my tooth" LOL
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Macrofitter on December 30, 2016, 08:30:51 AM
book is 10 times the film ever was....

Absolutely.

Still, Christian Bales performance as Bateman was outstanding.
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Macrofitter on December 30, 2016, 08:31:43 AM
The audiobook is pretty good as well

Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: ratherbebig on December 30, 2016, 08:58:32 AM
ive seen the film
ive read the book
book isnt 10 times better. stop talking shit.
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Simple Simon on December 30, 2016, 09:17:07 AM
oh, and by the way, Patrick didnt kill anyone, it was all in his mind....

anyone else have an opinion as to the story?
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: ratherbebig on December 30, 2016, 09:18:59 AM
anyone else have an opinion as to the story?


only that youre wrong, he did kill em all, and then some

lets not forget the movie american psycho 2 or the fact that bateman is related to norman bates and also has a cameo in fight club.
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Royalty on December 30, 2016, 09:41:36 AM
anyone else have an opinion as to the story?


I have not read the book, but I do agree that he didn't kill anyone. He wanted to kill them, but it was only a wishful desire. He didn't actually do it.

I'm not even sure if Patrick Bateman's name was actually Patrick Bateman. I noticed that people were confusing Patrick with other people... calling him by a different name.
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: ratherbebig on December 30, 2016, 10:02:15 AM
I have not read the book, but I do agree that he didn't kill anyone. He wanted to kill them, but it was only a wishful desire. He didn't actually do it.

I'm not even sure if Patrick Bateman's name was actually Patrick Bateman. I noticed that people were confusing Patrick with other people... calling him by a different name.

maybe his name was patrick piana and the killing he did was when he killed it at the gym
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Simple Simon on December 30, 2016, 10:06:17 AM
only that youre wrong, he did kill em all, and then some

lets not forget the movie american psycho 2 or the fact that bateman is related to norman bates and also has a cameo in fight club.

OK what evidence do you have that he killed anyone?

Oh and pat Bateman first appeared in Brets book "Rules of Attraction"
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: _bruce_ on December 30, 2016, 11:45:24 AM
Love the movie. I've never read the book because of a "rat tunnel episode" a friend told me about... but more often than not the written work is vastly superior to the "visualized" material due to making use of our "innate cinema".
I would love to live like Bateman does - despite everything being expensive/exclusive it's nonetheless laughable. The tragedy of existence.


Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: ratherbebig on December 30, 2016, 11:50:19 AM
OK what evidence do you have that he killed anyone?

Oh and pat Bateman first appeared in Brets book "Rules of Attraction"

i assume the writer is smart enough to figure out that there will be full of smart asses that will claim they got it and needs to tell everybody else about it who might not have gotten it, in order to appear smart, and knowing this, he spins it.

kills > doesnt kill > really did kill.

these type of people are the same ones that need to tell everybody how they got inception and every other movie under the sun.

and of course, the same type of tiresome smart asses need to say that the book is 10 times better.
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Azzaro on December 30, 2016, 11:51:40 AM
:)

I live in a Trailer Park 1 mile west of the Florida Turnpike. My name is Shizzo. I'm 37 years old. I am total slob, with a diet of hot pockets and a lack of rigorous exercise. In the morning, my face is as usual a little puffy from drinking too much and posting the night before, so I'll put on an ice pack while doing my stomach crunches. I can do about five now. After I remove the ice pack, I have a couple of shots of Vodka. In the shower, I use hand soap I stole from a local garage washroom.Then I scrub the nicotine stains off my fingers with the same brush I use to brush my tooth. And then I apply the vagisal to my sore anus. After my shower I log onto GetBig for the first time of many today while I prepare the rest of my routine which will consist of drinking, posting, and pestering Ron to make me a mod.I frown and panic as I notice I only got one response and 8 views to my latest thread complaining about Gimmicks. There is an idea of a Shizzo, as some kind of joke, but there is no real Shizzo. Only an online persona, something illusory, no matter how hard and pathetically I try. And though I can hide my lack of a life beyond GetBig, and you can alter my posts, and  feel pity that I will go to any lengths to get attention even sucking a cock and maybe you can even sense relief our life styles are probably Not comparable, I simply am not all there.

That's excellent!
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: SF1900 on December 30, 2016, 05:38:56 PM
I watched it last night. Great movie.
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 30, 2016, 06:06:10 PM
book is 10 times the film ever was....

It is but Ellis  nauseates me with his long winded descriptions of shit.
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 30, 2016, 07:26:13 PM
:)

I live in a Trailer Park 1 mile west of the Florida Turnpike. My name is Shizzo. I'm 37 years old. I am total slob, with a diet of hot pockets and a lack of rigorous exercise. In the morning, my face is as usual a little puffy from drinking too much and posting the night before, so I'll put on an ice pack while doing my stomach crunches. I can do about five now. After I remove the ice pack, I have a couple of shots of Vodka. In the shower, I use hand soap I stole from a local garage washroom.Then I scrub the nicotine stains off my fingers with the same brush I use to brush my tooth. And then I apply the vagisal to my sore anus. After my shower I log onto GetBig for the first time of many today while I prepare the rest of my routine which will consist of drinking, posting, and pestering Ron to make me a mod.I frown and panic as I notice I only got one response and 8 views to my latest thread complaining about Gimmicks. There is an idea of a Shizzo, as some kind of joke, but there is no real Shizzo. Only an online persona, something illusory, no matter how hard and pathetically I try. And though I can hide my lack of a life beyond GetBig, and you can alter my posts, and  feel pity that I will go to any lengths to get attention even sucking a cock and maybe you can even sense relief our life styles are probably Not comparable, I simply am not all there.

lolz
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 30, 2016, 07:37:12 PM
Love the movie. I've never read the book because of a "rat tunnel episode" a friend told me about... but more often than not the written work is vastly superior to the "visualized" material due to making use of our "innate cinema".
I would love to live like Bateman does - despite everything being expensive/exclusive it's nonetheless laughable. The tragedy of existence.




America Psycho....Really means The American Dream...
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: rocket on December 30, 2016, 11:17:07 PM
It is but Ellis  nauseates me with his long winded descriptions of shit.

Each to their own but I think the book would be considerably less good if the long winded descriptions of shit were omitted.  They are part of the character that is Patrick Bateman. 

As for anybody who has not read it - it is much more bloodthirsty.  A lot more Jeffrey Dahmer. 




Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Simple Simon on December 31, 2016, 12:18:03 AM
It is but Ellis  nauseates me with his long winded descriptions of shit.

if you dont understand why he did that then you missed the point....
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Simple Simon on December 31, 2016, 12:19:38 AM
i assume the writer is smart enough to figure out that there will be full of smart asses that will claim they got it and needs to tell everybody else about it who might not have gotten it, in order to appear smart, and knowing this, he spins it.

kills > doesnt kill > really did kill.

these type of people are the same ones that need to tell everybody how they got inception and every other movie under the sun.

and of course, the same type of tiresome smart asses need to say that the book is 10 times better.
the book is better than the movie, it allows you to get an understanding of Patricks world through his eyes, the film doesnt give you that.
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: ratherbebig on December 31, 2016, 08:42:21 AM
the book is better than the movie, it allows you to get an understanding of Patricks world through his eyes, the film doesnt give you that.

maybe but not that much better. i dont know, long time since i read it.

i do feel the movie has quite as bit going for it as far as visually the 80's (houses, clothing, club scene, the music etc)


Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: funk51 on December 31, 2016, 01:47:43 PM
:)

I live in a Trailer Park 1 mile west of the Florida Turnpike. My name is Shizzo. I'm 37 years old. I am total slob, with a diet of hot pockets and a lack of rigorous exercise. In the morning, my face is as usual a little puffy from drinking too much and posting the night before, so I'll put on an ice pack while doing my stomach crunches. I can do about five now. After I remove the ice pack, I have a couple of shots of Vodka. In the shower, I use hand soap I stole from a local garage washroom.Then I scrub the nicotine stains off my fingers with the same brush I use to brush my tooth. And then I apply the vagisal to my sore anus. After my shower I log onto GetBig for the first time of many today while I prepare the rest of my routine which will consist of drinking, posting, and pestering Ron to make me a mod.I frown and panic as I notice I only got one response and 8 views to my latest thread complaining about Gimmicks. There is an idea of a Shizzo, as some kind of joke, but there is no real Shizzo. Only an online persona, something illusory, no matter how hard and pathetically I try. And though I can hide my lack of a life beyond GetBig, and you can alter my posts, and  feel pity that I will go to any lengths to get attention even sucking a cock and maybe you can even sense relief our life styles are probably Not comparable, I simply am not all there.
                                                 that's what i'm talking about.
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Taffin on January 01, 2017, 07:31:46 AM
anyone else have an opinion as to the story?


I have not read the book, but I do agree that he didn't kill anyone. He wanted to kill them, but it was only a wishful desire. He didn't actually do it.

I'm not even sure if Patrick Bateman's name was actually Patrick Bateman. I noticed that people were confusing Patrick with other people... calling him by a different name.

The film seems pretty clear that he didn't, but the book had me not so sure at one point.  I was always puzzled as to why the taxi-driver holding him up would mention someone he'd killed?  Unless of course the hold-up (or the accompanying conversation) was imagined??

I think that (from the book) the closest he came to killing someone in reality was when he went to the Hamptons with his girlfriend...

And just to add, apart from a couple of appalling incidents, I found the book really funny - hope I wasn't the only one!  ;D
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Simple Simon on January 01, 2017, 07:34:38 AM
The film seems pretty clear that he didn't, but the book had me not so sure at one point.  I was always puzzled as to why the taxi-driver holding him up would mention someone he'd killed?  Unless of course the hold-up (or the accompanying conversation) was imagined??

I think that (from the book) the closest he came to killing someone in reality was when he went to the Hamptons with his girlfriend...

And just to add, apart from a couple of appalling incidents, I found the book really funny - hope I wasn't the only one!  ;D
the thing I like about the book is the abstinence and his dedication to looking good.
Funniest part for me is the U2 concert when Bono reached out to him from the stage and he waved him away...
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Coffeed on January 01, 2017, 09:16:14 AM
But when you state "The book was magnitudes better than the movie" it sets you apart.

You are different.
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 01, 2017, 09:17:48 AM
book is 10 times the film ever was....


QFT.
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Simple Simon on January 01, 2017, 09:18:22 AM
But when you state "The book was magnitudes better than the movie" it sets you apart.

You are different.
have you read the book, if so what did you think?
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: SF1900 on January 01, 2017, 09:25:53 AM
Heres your answer right from the "horses mouth" regarding the movie version.

Screenplay writer Guinevere Turner fleshed out what they meant to do with the movie:

    “It’s ambiguous in the novel whether or not it’s real, or how much of it is real, and we decided, right off the bat, first conversation about the book, that we hate movies, books, stories that ended and ‘it was all a dream’ or ‘it was all in his head’. Like Boxing Helena, there’s just a lot of stuff like that. And so we really set out, and we failed, and we’ve acknowledged this to each other, we really set out to make it really clear that he was really killing these people, that this was really happening. What’s funny is that I’ve had endless conversations with people who know that I wrote this script saying ‘So, me and my friends were arguing, cause I know it was all a dream’, or ‘I know it really happened’. And I always tell them, in our minds it really happened.”

    “What starts to happen as the movie progresses is that what you’re seeing is what’s going on in his head. So when he shoots a car and it explodes, even he for a second is like ‘Huh?’ because even he is starting to believe that his perception of reality cannot be right. As he goes more crazy, what you actually see becomes more distorted and harder to figure out, but it’s meant to be that he is really killing all these people, it’s just that he’s probably not as nicely dressed, it probably didn’t go as smoothly as he is perceiving it to go, the hookers probably weren’t as hot etc etc etc It’s just Bateman’s fantasy world. And I’ve turned to Mary many times and said ;We’ve failed, we didn’t write the script that we intended to write.'”
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Simple Simon on January 01, 2017, 09:30:28 AM
Heres your answer right from the "horses mouth" regarding the movie version.

Screenplay writer Guinevere Turner fleshed out what they meant to do with the movie:

    “It’s ambiguous in the novel whether or not it’s real, or how much of it is real, and we decided, right off the bat, first conversation about the book, that we hate movies, books, stories that ended and ‘it was all a dream’ or ‘it was all in his head’. Like Boxing Helena, there’s just a lot of stuff like that. And so we really set out, and we failed, and we’ve acknowledged this to each other, we really set out to make it really clear that he was really killing these people, that this was really happening. What’s funny is that I’ve had endless conversations with people who know that I wrote this script saying ‘So, me and my friends were arguing, cause I know it was all a dream’, or ‘I know it really happened’. And I always tell them, in our minds it really happened.”

    “What starts to happen as the movie progresses is that what you’re seeing is what’s going on in his head. So when he shoots a car and it explodes, even he for a second is like ‘Huh?’ because even he is starting to believe that his perception of reality cannot be right. As he goes more crazy, what you actually see becomes more distorted and harder to figure out, but it’s meant to be that he is really killing all these people, it’s just that he’s probably not as nicely dressed, it probably didn’t go as smoothly as he is perceiving it to go, the hookers probably weren’t as hot etc etc etc It’s just Bateman’s fantasy world. And I’ve turned to Mary many times and said ;We’ve failed, we didn’t write the script that we intended to write.'”

Not one other person in the movie or the book could corroborate or confirm anything you saw through his eyes.

Hence none of it really happened.
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: SF1900 on January 01, 2017, 09:35:52 AM
Not one other person in the movie or the book could corroborate or confirm anything you saw through his eyes.

Hence none of it really happened.

That may be the case, unfortunately, its not what the screen writer and director intended. I guess a major gaff on their part.
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: NordicNerd on January 01, 2017, 09:46:38 AM
:)

I live in a Trailer Park 1 mile west of the Florida Turnpike. My name is Shizzo. I'm 37 years old. I am total slob, with a diet of hot pockets and a lack of rigorous exercise. In the morning, my face is as usual a little puffy from drinking too much and posting the night before, so I'll put on an ice pack while doing my stomach crunches. I can do about five now. After I remove the ice pack, I have a couple of shots of Vodka. In the shower, I use hand soap I stole from a local garage washroom.Then I scrub the nicotine stains off my fingers with the same brush I use to brush my tooth. And then I apply the vagisal to my sore anus. After my shower I log onto GetBig for the first time of many today while I prepare the rest of my routine which will consist of drinking, posting, and pestering Ron to make me a mod.I frown and panic as I notice I only got one response and 8 views to my latest thread complaining about Gimmicks. There is an idea of a Shizzo, as some kind of joke, but there is no real Shizzo. Only an online persona, something illusory, no matter how hard and pathetically I try. And though I can hide my lack of a life beyond GetBig, and you can alter my posts, and  feel pity that I will go to any lengths to get attention even sucking a cock and maybe you can even sense relief our life styles are probably Not comparable, I simply am not all there.

Pure art! The mystery of Getbig- morons and artists interacting...

NN
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: NordicNerd on January 01, 2017, 09:48:35 AM
the book is better than the movie, it allows you to get an understanding of Patricks world through his eyes, the film doesnt give you that.

Indeed- the book is great- the film is mediocre. The use of a narrative voice is always a last resort in almost any movie and in this case it doesn't even come close to the book.

NN
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Kahn.N.Singh on January 01, 2017, 10:03:02 AM
Heres your answer right from the "horses mouth" regarding the movie version.

Screenplay writer Guinevere Turner fleshed out what they meant to do with the movie:

    “It’s ambiguous in the novel whether or not it’s real, or how much of it is real, and we decided, right off the bat, first conversation about the book, that we hate movies, books, stories that ended and ‘it was all a dream’ or ‘it was all in his head’. Like Boxing Helena, there’s just a lot of stuff like that. And so we really set out, and we failed, and we’ve acknowledged this to each other, we really set out to make it really clear that he was really killing these people, that this was really happening. What’s funny is that I’ve had endless conversations with people who know that I wrote this script saying ‘So, me and my friends were arguing, cause I know it was all a dream’, or ‘I know it really happened’. And I always tell them, in our minds it really happened.”

    “What starts to happen as the movie progresses is that what you’re seeing is what’s going on in his head. So when he shoots a car and it explodes, even he for a second is like ‘Huh?’ because even he is starting to believe that his perception of reality cannot be right. As he goes more crazy, what you actually see becomes more distorted and harder to figure out, but it’s meant to be that he is really killing all these people, it’s just that he’s probably not as nicely dressed, it probably didn’t go as smoothly as he is perceiving it to go, the hookers probably weren’t as hot etc etc etc It’s just Bateman’s fantasy world. And I’ve turned to Mary many times and said ;We’ve failed, we didn’t write the script that we intended to write.'”

It's a testament to the book/film that it's still being discussed.

Ellis, Bale, Herron -- here: "He goes from psychopath to psychotic,” brilliant insight from Bale (approx.: @10:34). Herron’s follow-up of the above soon follows: “[the film] makes it look like it was all in his head, but as far as I’m concerned it’s not."



Also ;D,

As _bruce_ suggests above with regard to its "cult" status among shallow, self-absorbed, neurotically scorekeeping professionals, yeah, it pretty much increases douchebag serotonin levels.

For others, the violence, narcissism, and psychosis of its charming and witty protagonist is alluring and amusing.

And for more literary types, it's a postmodern critique of consumer and corporate culture wherein you cannot trust any sort of identity and narrative; especially, as the novel's "end"* implies, self-identity and self-narrative** (of course, there are other interpretations).

* The novel ends, "THIS IS NOT AN EXIT."
** The film ends with Bateman reflecting that his "confession has meant nothing."

thats cause he never killed any one its all in his head  ;)

That's one interpretation. Another is that he did kill people (and Paul Allen), but there's so much mistaken identity going on that few people actually know who is who. For example, note how some of his colleagues mistake who he (Patrick Bateman) is in the office "show me your card" scene. And also how Paul Allen has lunch with Bateman thinking he is Halberstram. The novel is set up this way. It's supposed to be ambiguous.  

Happy New Year, guys!

Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Simple Simon on January 01, 2017, 11:55:48 AM
It's a testament to the book/film that it's still being discussed.

Ellis, Bale, Herron -- here: "He goes from psychopath to psychotic,” brilliant insight from Bale (approx.: @10:34). Herron’s follow-up of the above soon follows: “[the film] makes it look like it was all in his head, but as far as I’m concerned it’s not."



Also ;D,

Happy New Year, guys!



and we should listen to his opinion because...?
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Spike on January 01, 2017, 12:01:05 PM
The thread that dealt with this 5years ago, here

Handled this in a much better fashion as well as more intelligently

I don't have time to go archive
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Simple Simon on January 01, 2017, 12:09:34 PM
The thread that dealt with this 5years ago, here

Handled this in a much better fashion as well as more intelligently

I don't have time to go archive

getbig has come a long way in 5 years, fuck you and your intelligent rationality.
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: SF1900 on January 01, 2017, 12:16:09 PM
Be There is one of the more intelligent, bigger guys on this forum.
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Kahn.N.Singh on January 01, 2017, 12:21:26 PM
and we should listen to his opinion because...?

Hey, Be There,

Herron's the director of the film. But, even here, you don't have to take her word for it. That's the thing about experiencing an artwork, your own response (e.g., reader-response criticism) is what matters because, ultimately, that's what will make the experience meaningful.

There are audiences that, whether for books or films, want some sort of closure or concrete view of what an artwork means (e.g., the authorial intent). Also, some works have to make sense and understanding requires completeness (e.g., as in a detective story, where the audience gets in on the whodunit at the end, which satisfies the mystery). However, there are artists and theorists who try to complicate this desire or requirement by leaving certain plot elements open-ended, which requires the reader/viewer to "complete" the work for themselves.

Examples of this mindset are found in Henry James's idea about skillful writers designing their works to entice their readers into taking part on the task of its completion, and Roland Barthes's notion that the birth of the reader comes at the expense of the death of the author. The idea of the Intentional Fallacy is also at play.

There is no question that Ellis and Herron are employing these (and other) post-modern tropes.

However, as far as having a last word on the subject, you can take it or leave it.

Be Well, Be There.  
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: funk51 on January 01, 2017, 03:10:40 PM
both were good. book was just a little more descriptive and strange.
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: smoothasf on January 01, 2017, 03:58:21 PM
:)

I live in a Trailer Park 1 mile west of the Florida Turnpike. My name is Shizzo. I'm 37 years old. I am total slob, with a diet of hot pockets and a lack of rigorous exercise. In the morning, my face is as usual a little puffy from drinking too much and posting the night before, so I'll put on an ice pack while doing my stomach crunches. I can do about five now. After I remove the ice pack, I have a couple of shots of Vodka. In the shower, I use hand soap I stole from a local garage washroom.Then I scrub the nicotine stains off my fingers with the same brush I use to brush my tooth. And then I apply the vagisal to my sore anus. After my shower I log onto GetBig for the first time of many today while I prepare the rest of my routine which will consist of drinking, posting, and pestering Ron to make me a mod.I frown and panic as I notice I only got one response and 8 views to my latest thread complaining about Gimmicks. There is an idea of a Shizzo, as some kind of joke, but there is no real Shizzo. Only an online persona, something illusory, no matter how hard and pathetically I try. And though I can hide my lack of a life beyond GetBig, and you can alter my posts, and  feel pity that I will go to any lengths to get attention even sucking a cock and maybe you can even sense relief our life styles are probably Not comparable, I simply am not all there.

That's so good I read it to my wife in bed, she loved it too.
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: hardgainerj on January 01, 2017, 04:15:13 PM
I decided to end 2016 the right way. I watched the classic film that parallels GetBig in many ways. Insecurity, jealousy, fitness, obsession with image, drug usage, confusion, materialism, view of women, humor, deception, living in an alternate reality,  pretending to be somebody else, night clubs, obsession with diet, delusions of violent behavior, ect...

all within 2 hours
audio book>

Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: smoothasf on January 01, 2017, 04:24:24 PM
I've read the book but that audio book would have saved me so much time.
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: ESFitness on January 01, 2017, 04:39:21 PM
Still have 👎 idea what I just read.
Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: rocket on January 01, 2017, 04:53:52 PM
One of the better things I have mentally conditioned myself to do, is to not waste any time pontificating on a divergent section of fiction that could be interpreted two completely different ways.

It is often a fools errand.

The real truth is that you cannot trust a writer to be clear cut enough to offer a true, solution to the puzzle.  To be ambiguous is tremendously artistic.  These days, it also goes by another name - it is also a straight up troll.

..Which means you are wasting precious life, even bothering to contemplate it too much

You've only to read that quote, above from the screenplay writer to understand why it is better to not dwell - an admission that they fucked it up and blurred the lines.

The same thing is in effect with Bladerunner.  From memory, they asked several people involved in the production and there were conflicting answers as to whether Deckard was a Replicant.  For most of the movie, it is implied, yet never so much that it would be clear whether it was true or not.  You are simply left wondering. 

(Though I am fairly sure that the next Bladerunner movie will make a definitive statement that he is a replicant)

Who can forget that last scene in the Sopranos?  Enraged many.  Didn't bother me.  No information.  No possible solution.  Therefore, believe what you want to believe and move on.

Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: Spike on January 01, 2017, 06:18:59 PM
and we should listen to his opinion because...?

Cause it's a lot better than your whinny fat asses


Fuck you and your weak forearm rationale


Title: Re: Re-discovering the awesomeness of American Psycho
Post by: NelsonMuntz on January 01, 2017, 06:34:01 PM
That's so good I read it to my wife in bed, she loved it too.

lol, thanks