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I don't think it's hard to see, this man is stronger than Coleman, upper body at least...
look no further than the 98 BFTO tape
405 x 6, 455 x 6, 495 x 3 on flat BP 12 days out of the olympia at around 255 lbs.
then 405 x 6 on incline followed with 455 x 4
not to mention full range reps too.
I haven't seen much of it, but didn't levrone somewhere claim a 755 x 10 squat :o
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pushing movements are generally how one defines upper body strength, so yes, could you imagine levrone's strength at 320 like coleman offseason/
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He was not strong on anything but bench. What about back strength? How much did he deadlift? He was on 3000 grams of Test a week so I am not surprised that he was strong before a contest
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495 x 3 12 days out...compared to coleman 495 x 5 half reps full blown offseason...300+ lbs.
I have no idea how much levrone deadlifted, but personally, i would define upper body strength as pushing capabilioty. For back, I would just say back strength. and for legs, lower body strength.
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495 x 3 12 days out...compared to coleman 495 x 5 half reps full blown offseason...300+ lbs.
I have no idea how much levrone deadlifted, but personally, i would define upper body strength as pushing capabilioty. For back, I would just say back strength. and for legs, lower body strength.
What a joke ::) You obviously have the "beach muscles" mentality where bench is all that matters. It is a good thing the weather is getting warmer so you can take your "beach body" to the beach and impress the ladies ::)
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another moronic thread hijack...
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another moronic thread hijack...
Show us pics of your "beach body" ;D
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I don't think it's hard to see, this man is stronger than Coleman, upper body at least...
look no further than the 98 BFTO tape
405 x 6, 455 x 6, 495 x 3 on flat BP 12 days out of the olympia at around 255 lbs.
then 405 x 6 on incline followed with 455 x 4
not to mention full range reps too.
I haven't seen much of it, but didn't levrone somewhere claim a 755 x 10 squat :o
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He grows into a contest though, so it is not really that impressive.
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I also have wondered why he isn't recognized for his brutal strength
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495 x 3 12 days out...compared to coleman 495 x 5 half reps full blown offseason...300+ lbs.
I have no idea how much levrone deadlifted, but personally, i would define upper body strength as pushing capabilioty. For back, I would just say back strength. and for legs, lower body strength.
considering Kevin looks like shit in the offseason...He is one of the only few who gain weight for a show, its easy to see that Kevin would be stronger up to the show then normal....Imagain what this guys joints look like?
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I also have wondered why he isn't recognized for his brutal strength
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I knew you couldn't resist this thread ;D!
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if those bench numbers are true then thats extremely impressive.
ronald has tons of video clips circulating the net of his feats, thats why he is so widely recognized. i have never seen a clip of levrone benching.
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I also have wondered why he isn't recognized for his brutal strength
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*classic*
;D
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he doesnt go wide grip when he benches he goes more of a medium grip
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if those bench numbers are true then thats extremely impressive.
ronald has tons of video clips circulating the net of his feats, thats why he is so widely recognized. i have never seen a clip of levrone benching.
theyre talkin about his BFO i think
wit the red kicks
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if those bench numbers are true then thats extremely impressive.
ronald has tons of video clips circulating the net of his feats, thats why he is so widely recognized. i have never seen a clip of levrone benching.
check out BFTO 98 it is well worth it
I watch his training segment all the time before I hit the weights
it's intense 8)
also overall I think it is the best BFTO
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check out BFTO 98 it is well worth it
I watch his training segment all the time before I hit the weights
it's intense 8)
also overall I think it is the best BFTO
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Earl...it's only a movie and he's an *cough* actor!
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check out BFTO 98 it is well worth it
I watch his training segment all the time before I hit the weights
it's intense 8)
also overall I think it is the best BFTO
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beat ya funny man
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Earl...it's only a movie and he's an *cough* actor!
it's not a movie assclown it's real training >:(
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beat ya funny man
what? ???
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it's not a movie assclown it's real training >:(
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They used fake weights in those. Sorry :-\
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They used fake weights in those. Sorry :-\
hahahahaahaha sure they did ::)
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He was not strong on anything but bench. What about back strength? How much did he deadlift? He was on 3000 grams of Test a week so I am not surprised that he was strong before a contest
because a deadlift is such a great gauge of upper body strength. it's not lower back, glutes, hips, and hamstrings, no. its upper body.
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hahahahaahaha sure they did ::)
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I was in one of the gyms they shoot those in, and in between takes I needed an extra plate, so I grabbed one that they were using and it was fake. Levrone looked at me mean and said, "Keep you mouth shut about that kid." I was shocked. :'(
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it's not a movie assclown it's real training >:(
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Do you think he trains like that without a camera on him? One thing I can say about Bob C. There's no acting, he trains like a puss whether there's a camera on him or not. LOL!
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because a deadlift is such a great gauge of upper body strength. it's not lower back, glutes, hips, and hamstrings, no. its upper body.
Lower back is the most important muscle group in the deadlift and it is upper body ::) Take an anatomy class, Albert Einstein ::) Why don't you teach me about relativity, genius ::)
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I was in one of the gyms they shoot those in, and in between takes I needed an extra plate, so I grabbed one that they were using and it was fake. Levrone looked at me mean and said, "Keep you mouth shut about that kid." I was shocked. :'(
aren't you a woman? if so get back in the kitchen with the dinner plates and leave the weight plates to mr. levorne >:(
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Do you think he trains like that without a camera on him? One thing I can say about Bob C. There's no acting, he trains like a puss whether there's a camera on him or not. LOL!
what the hell are you babbling about?
what difference does it make if he benches 500 for 3 reps only when there is a camera on him?
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aren't you a woman? if so get back in the kitchen with the dinner plates and leave the weight plates to mr. levorne >:(
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Ok, so my story may have been made up, but no, I am not a woman. I am a man.
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what the hell are you babbling about?
what difference does it make if he benches 500 for 3 reps only when their is a camera on him?
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The camera motivated him to do something he couldn't have otherwise.
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Ok, so my story may have been made up, but no, I am not a woman. I am shemale
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That's not what I wrote :-[
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The camera motivated him to do something he couldn't have otherwise.
I saw somewhere that being around a large crowd watching you workout can add 8% to your performance
so instead of doing 500 for 3 he would've done it for 2.5 ::)
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I saw somewhere that being around a large crowd watching you workout can add 8% to your performance
so instead of doing 500 for 3 he would've done it for 2.5 ::)
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No, he would have been buried under the weight, begging you to help him ;D
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because he looks like a bitch, nobody who looks like a bitch: Shawn, Flex, Kevin is remembered for strength. They leave that for the Colemans, Olivia's and the Yate's
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because he looks like a bitch, nobody who looks like a bitch: Shawn, Flex, Kevin is remembered for strength. They leave that for the Colemans, Olivia's and the Yate's
says the 160 pound monster haha oh brother ::)
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yeah I have to be a 250 tub of shit to make that claim. Really Earl think about the point I just made instead of defending your man crush
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ok basically you are saying that they are better looking than coleman, yates, and olivia
now I see your point thanks for your queer input
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aren't you a woman? if so get back in the kitchen with the dinner plates and leave the weight plates to mr. levorne >:(
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Get your b**ch a** back in the kitchen,and make me some PIE!!
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Get your b**ch a** back in the kitchen,and make me some PIE!!
::)...hmmm I think somebody watches just a little too much SOUTHPARK. next he will be yelling Beefcake. ::)
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because in reality he's 5'8" and weighs 175?
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Why is levrone not recognized for his strength? Because no onw remembers second place.....When Ronnie's around.
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Part of it has to be the fact that he gains weight for a show.
This is BB, I don't ever want to see them skinny (NEVER). I want them at max size 24/7/365 with the exception of cutting for a show. We all know that they take "supplements" but seeing someone grow for a show reminds us of the "dark side" of BB.
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he also curled 100lb dumbbells for reps and thats something i dont see too many pros doing, Ronnie included. Thats not to say Ronnie cant lift them, but ive never seen him use them for curls
I saw a pic of Jay in MD yesterday shoulder pressing the 180's with a fake look on his face. He admitted himself he never uses more than the 160's for anything - pressing included. Ive also seen pics of him doing concentration curls with 100lbs but i doubt they were real dumbbells. He doesnt posess anywhere near that strength in his DVDs
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he doesnt have a stronger bench than ronnie...
ronne benched405 for 12
and495 for 5
405 for 12 on incline
405 for 12 on decline...
rlevrone has never benched more than ronnie on video..
so how do some people arrrive at the conclusion that he has a stronger bench
and also not forget 2 weeks out from mr olympia 200
ronne pressed 200lb dumbels 12 reps
on flat and 200 for 8 on incline
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end of discussion
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he doesnt have a stronger bench than ronnie...
ronne benched405 for 12
and495 for 5
405 for 12 on incline
405 for 12 on decline...
rlevrone has never benched more than ronnie on video..
so how do some people arrrive at the conclusion that he has a stronger bench
no he didn't, he benched 405 for 10 on flat, 405 for 8 on inclines and 405 for 10 on decline, i think that Levrone, Cormier and Dennis James are all stronger than Ronnie on pressing movements but Ronnie has them by far on squats, leg press, deads, rows.
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mmm ok ill have to check those numbers again...
ronnie mudered chris on shoulder presses....
they did a shoot in flex.. and chris admitted it..
ronnie had to help him on 315
ronnie did it for 12
and then did 405 for a single
im talkin freeweight as well
not no sissy smith machine.... that tom prince used to load up and claim big numbers on
military pressing free and smith are 2 totally different things
and also
200lb for 12
dumbell presses..
who else has done that...
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mmm ok ill have to check those numbers again...
ronnie mudered chris on shoulder presses....
they did a shoot in flex.. and chris admitted it..
ronnie had to help him on 315
ronnie did it for 12
and then did 405 for a single
im talkin freeweight as well
not no sissy smith machine.... that tom prince used to load up and claim big numbers on
military pressing free and smith are 2 totally different things
and also
200lb for 12
dumbell presses..
who else has done that...
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barbell presses are harder no doubt but pressing 405 on the Smith is no picnic either, the thing that's hard about the Smith is that it doesn't matter how far you lean back or twist your body that bar stays on that track no matter what, on Cost of Redemption Ronnie did 6 reps with the 160's for shoulder presses and 315 for 12 on the Unbelievable i doubt that he could press 405 seated though i'd put his max around 375-380, you have to remember that Ronnie only goes three quarters of the way up on presses, if he locked out each rep the reps would decrease by a few.
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he did press 405...
in a flex issue with him and chris training....
he did for a single...
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not lockin out keeps the tension on the muscle which makes the movement harder...because ur muscle fatigues quicker
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he did press 405...
in a flex issue with him and chris training....
he did for a single...
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not lockin out keeps the tension on the muscle which makes the movement harder...because ur muscle fatigues quicker
you were there and saw him press 405? believe me if he had to do a full range of motion his reps would decrease, realistically Ronnie could shoulder press 315 for 8 for full reps which is amazing in and of itself.
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no...
obviously i wasnt there...
but chis stated... and so does ronnie.. i see nothing unbelievable about him pressin it for a single..
i'll find the issue and state the month
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why are u always trying to fight down peoples numbers..?
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no...
obviously i wasnt there...
but chis stated... and so does ronnie.. i see nothing unbelievable about him pressin it for a single..
i'll find the issue and state the month
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why are u always trying to fight down peoples numbers..?
i do remember that issue Ronnie was training wearing sunglasses indoors and they were doing the presses in the power rack, i'm just realistic about people's poundages, you make it sound as if 315 for 8 is weak or something.
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...for a guy coleman's size....
thats not impressive....
how much do u military?
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...for a guy coleman's size....
thats not impressive....
how much do u military?
225 for 5, 105 lb. db's for 6.
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ok thats a fairly above average lift... for a natural guy..im assuming ur natural
...coleman is waaaay above an average... on waaay above average food.. and drugs...
315 for 12 is a good lift for his size..
not a wow amazing great lift
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ok thats a fairly above average lift... for a natural guy..im assuming ur natural
...coleman is waaaay above an average... on waaay above average food.. and drugs...
315 for 12 is a good lift for his size..
not a wow amazing great lift
i'm natural now, haha, you make it sound as if there are guys out there barbell shoulder pressing 405 plus all the time.
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dont infer
I...didnt say that.....
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i just said coleman..pressing for for a single is believable...
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and whats wrong with being natural???
if u juice and thats ur military...
its still a good lift i guess
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dont infer
I...didnt say that.....
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i just said coleman..pressing for for a single is believable...
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and whats wrong with being natural???
if u juice and thats ur military...
its still a good lift i guess
i didn't say there was anything wrong with being natural, i wish i could say that i was lifetime natural but i haven't used anything in three years, i could push press 295 for 6 juiced standing, what are your lifts on shoulders?
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110 dumbells 8 reps
seated militarys 225 - 10 rep
i military prolly once per month...
i prefer dumbells
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110 dumbells 8 reps
seated militarys 225 - 10 rep
i military prolly once per month...
i prefer dumbells
that's pretty damn good.
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its o...k...
ive never been really strong on shoulders... persay..
but then again as i always say strength is relative...
what ive been doin lately at the end of my shoulder session ..
is snatch presses... they really hit the delt and shoulders hard...
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Snatch presses? mmmmmmmmmmm.
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;D ;D
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he doesnt have a stronger bench than ronnie...
ronne benched405 for 12
and495 for 5
405 for 12 on incline
405 for 12 on decline...
rlevrone has never benched more than ronnie on video..
so how do some people arrrive at the conclusion that he has a stronger bench
and also not forget 2 weeks out from mr olympia 200
ronne pressed 200lb dumbels 12 reps
on flat and 200 for 8 on incline
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end of discussion
on BFTO 2002 kevin flat benched 405 for 12 easy reps with a full range of motion about 7 days out from the O
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no he didn't, he benched 405 for 10 on flat, 405 for 8 on inclines and 405 for 10 on decline, i think that Levrone, Cormier and Dennis James are all stronger than Ronnie on pressing movements but Ronnie has them by far on squats, leg press, deads, rows.
Don't forget, there are pictures of Dennis James doing 595 for 3 on the incline press.
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i just saw Dennis's video and he inclines 500 for 3 reps with a spotters one hand on the bar pulling, he couldn't have been taking any more than 20-30 pouinds off the bar, he also did 405 for 8.
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He's a beast.
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I didn't read all of the tread, but i was somewhat surprised to learn that levrone did 3000 grams of test a week......Thats 3 kilos.......6.6pounds... .....every week? thats alot......No wonder he was strong...
Are u sure your info is right LuciusFox?
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I didn't read all of the tread, but i was somewhat surprised to learn that levrone did 3000 grams of test a week......Thats 3 kilos.......6.6pounds... .....every week? thats alot......No wonder he was strong...
Are u sure your info is right LuciusFox?
i think it's safe to say he meant 3,000mg. or 3 grams which is a lot but not unheard of for a pro bb'er.
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Where did Kevin mentioned that?
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I didn't read all of the tread, but i was somewhat surprised to learn that levrone did 3000 grams of test a week......Thats 3 kilos.......6.6pounds... .....every week? thats alot......No wonder he was strong...
Are u sure your info is right LuciusFox?
That was a silly joke on my part. Yes 3000 mg would make much more sense. ;D
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GENTLEMEN, LET ME CLEAR THIS THREAD UP !!!!! I USED TO TRAIN WITH BIG KEV AT HIS GYM IN SEVERNA PARK MD. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, LOOK AT ROAD TO OLYMPIA 2000. KEVIN WAS STRONG AS HELL. IVE SEEN THE MAN BENCH OVER 500 FOR REPS, SQUAT OVER 600 FOR REPS AND MILITARY PRESS OVER 350. AND NO THE WEIGHTS WEREN'T FAKE. W8LFTR, IF YOU'RE OUT THERE, YOU CAN JUMP IN AT ANY TIME
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Because he was a bodybuilder not a power lifter.
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I don't see why everyone drools over Ronnie all the time. In every video I've seen, he does partial reps on upper body exercises. His 800 lb squat wasn't even close to parallel. Take either of these idiots off their gigantic drug stacks and they're pretty average.
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It's because all the focus is on his band, Full Blown (AIDS)
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I don't see why everyone drools over Ronnie all the time. In every video I've seen, he does partial reps on upper body exercises. His 800 lb squat wasn't even close to parallel. Take either of these idiots off their gigantic drug stacks and they're pretty average.
Ronnie could beat you up >:(
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Here I uploaded the part of Kevin benching in m3.
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Here I uploaded the part of Kevin benching in m3.
forwarding link to mitsuru okabe :o
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Here I uploaded the part of Kevin benching in m3.
he makes it look so easy.
his triceps were insane, best triceps ever no doubt.
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forwarding link to mitsuru okabe :o
do whatever rows your boat ::)
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do whatever rows your boat ::)
take a joke man ;)
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Interesting how the bar didn't bend ::)
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Interesting how the bar didn't bend ::)
make sure your eyes dont get stuck in the back of your head ;)
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What was he rubbing on his face and hands
alcohol?
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What was he rubbing on his face and hands
alcohol?
HFR.
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man juice.
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What was he rubbing on his face and hands
alcohol?
yes
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make sure your eyes dont get stuck in the back of your head ;)
;D
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Interesting how the bar didn't bend ::)
A good quality olympic bar won't bend with that sort of weight.
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A good quality olympic bar won't bend with that sort of weight.
Ah ok.
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humm why dont people belive levrone benched that much he actually gets stronger pre contest
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humm why dont people belive levrone benched that much he actually gets stronger pre contest
I keep trying to tell them this and they don't get it for some reason. ::)
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Levrone had great legs in the beginning of his career and big on squats, wasn't it some kind of disc injury that prevented him from squatting?
IMO, Levrone had bigger strength potential than Coleman. On all lifts.
Coleman's bodybuilding focus seems to be second to none though.
YIP
Zack
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I haven't seen much of it, but didn't levrone somewhere claim a 755 x 10 squat :o
i actually saw this happen...back at his gym..when he had one...the girl working the front desk ws a babe also..we used to chitchat online...i had a gf so never got to pork her though :(
o yeah..but the 755 squat..yep..saw that one happen...now i didn't go count the weights...sure looked like over 675 (7 plates/side)
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He was on 3000 grams of Test a week so I am not surprised that he was strong before a contest
how do you know this? ..Kev usually grew into a contest...
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i actually saw this happen...back at his gym..when he had one...the girl working the front desk ws a babe also..we used to chitchat online...i had a gf so never got to pork her though :(
o yeah..but the 755 squat..yep..saw that one happen...
755 lbs * 10 reps... What kind of equipment?
How low did he go on the reps?
YIP
Zack
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755 lbs * 10 reps... What kind of equipment?
How low did he go on the reps?
YIP
Zack
he went low to parallel...i modified my original post though
...now i didn't go count the weights...sure looked like over 675 (7 plates/side)
he went to parallel...i wasn't very close by..there were bunch of biggish guys around him and i ws just plain intimidated..
equipment..well he had loose clothes on so if he ws wearing a squat suit under i dunno...
didn't papose train with him there also (help me out guys) or now am i thinking of Dong longs gym in VA ???
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but personally, i would define upper body strength as pushing capabilioty.
Just to give you a point of reference; the back muscles absolutely overwhelm the front in terms of mass, different muscles and importance.
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Levrone had great legs in the beginning of his career and big on squats, wasn't it some kind of disc injury that prevented him from squatting?
IMO, Levrone had bigger strength potential than Coleman. On all lifts.
Coleman's bodybuilding focus seems to be second to none though.
YIP
Zack
agree on everything.
Levrone seemed to had genetic and structural potential to be even stronger than Ronnie if he wanted to (or if he trained equal or more than ronnie)
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he went low to parallel...i modified my original post though
he went to parallel...i wasn't very close by..there were bunch of biggish guys around him and i ws just plain intimidated..
equipment..well he had loose clothes on so if he ws wearing a squat suit under i dunno...
didn't papose train with him there also (help me out guys) or now am i thinking of Dong longs gym in VA ???
If it was with a belt only...
doubt even Goggins would get 10 reps with a weight like that.
And that's not disrespecting Goggins..
Hopefully we'll get the insight from a former correctional officer out of Ohio on this matter. 8)
YIP
Zack
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how do you know this? ..Kev usually grew into a contest...
He grew into a contest because he was on 10 grams a week. Who the hell wouldn't grow with 10 grams?
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If it was with a belt only...
doubt even Goggins would get 10 reps with a weight like that.
And that's not disrespecting Goggins..
Hopefully we'll get the insight from a former correctional officer out of Ohio on this matter. 8)
YIP
Zack
oo yeah it ws belt only...i never saw lev train with wraps .....i remember seeing him with wristwraps but they seemed to be there more for show than anything else...
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He grew into a contest because he was on 10 grams a week. Who the hell wouldn't grow with 10 grams?
how do you know it ws 10 grams / week...? i mean how did you get them #s?
btw its true...i think it ws the 98 O or something where he didn't even start training till like `16 weeks out...i'm serious...or so the story goes..
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I don't understand this thread at all. Levrone was known for his strength. As a matter of fact it is common knowledge he was one of the strongest BB's ever. ???
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I don't understand this thread at all. Levrone was known for his strength. As a matter of fact it is common knowledge he was one of the strongest BB's ever. ???
true but he still doesn't get the credit he deserves
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how do you know it ws 10 grams / week...? i mean how did you get them #s?
he pulled them out of his ass ignore him
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how do you know it ws 10 grams / week...? i mean how did you get them #s?
btw its true...i think it ws the 98 O or something where he didn't even start training till like `16 weeks out...i'm serious...or so the story goes..
I just make them up.