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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-says-mexico-will-reimburse-u-s-as-gop-weighs-new-plan-for-wall/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-says-mexico-will-reimburse-u-s-as-gop-weighs-new-plan-for-wall/)
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That's consistent with what he said on the campaign.
I always thought it was a dumb promise, but there are ways he can make it happen, e.g., withholding foreign aid, tariffs, etc.
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That's consistent with what he said on the campaign.
I always thought it was a dumb promise, but there are ways he can make it happen, e.g., withholding foreign aid, tariffs, etc.
not exactly
he said for more than a year that Mexico would pay for it then near the end FLIP FLOPPED and said he'd make the US pay for it and then give Mexico the bill.
Of course we all know Mexico isn't going to pay for shit and Trump knows that too
Another Lie by the Jack Ass in Chief
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That's consistent with what he said on the campaign.
I always thought it was a dumb promise, but there are ways he can make it happen, e.g., withholding foreign aid, tariffs, etc.
Agreed and agreed.
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not exactly
he said for more than a year that Mexico would pay for it then near the end FLIP FLOPPED and said he'd make the US pay for it and then give Mexico the bill.
Of course we all know Mexico isn't going to pay for shit and Trump knows that too
Another Lie by the Jack Ass in Chief
Are you this bitter in real life?
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not exactly
he said for more than a year that Mexico would pay for it then near the end FLIP FLOPPED and said he'd make the US pay for it and then give Mexico the bill.
Of course we all know Mexico isn't going to pay for shit and Trump knows that too
Another Lie by the Jack Ass in Chief
– “We will close the detention camp in Guantanamo Bay.” Still open.
– “If we have not gotten our troops out [of Iraq] by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do.” Didn’t happen.
– “Today I’m pledging to cut the deficit in half by the end of my first term in office.” Instead, the national debt increased $5 trillion on his watch.
– “As soon as we’re out of this recession, we’ve got to get serious about starting to live within our means.” Huh?
– “We agree on reforms that will reduce the costs of health care. Families will save on their premiums.”
– “We’ve got shovel-ready projects all across the country.” Later, Obama admitted his own lie, saying, “There’s no such thing as shovel-ready projects.”
– “We reject the use of national security … to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime.”
– We “will ensure that federal contracts over $25,000 are competitively bid.”
– We “will eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year.”
– “We are going to work with you to lower your [health care] premiums by $2,500,” and we’ll “do it by the end of my first term as president.”
– “I don’t take a dime of their [lobbyists’] money, and when I am president, they won’t find a job in my White House.” In fact, Obama granted waivers at will, and more than a dozen lobbyists got jobs in the Obama administration.
– “I pledge to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution.” But Obama has ignored the constitutional amendment granting powers not enumerated in the Constitution to the states.
– “If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”
– “The sequester is not something that I’ve proposed. It is something that Congress has proposed.” The truth is that the White House proposed an “automatic sequester” on July 12, 2011.
– “I didn’t set a red line [in Syria].” And yet, at a prior news conference, using unscripted language in a statement, he said, “a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around.”
– “It’s here that companies like Solyndra are leading the way toward a brighter and more prosperous future.” After Obama’s administration gave the company $535 million, Solyndra and its solar panels went belly up.
– To Israel, “We have not only made sure that they [Iran] have to stop adding additional centrifuges, we’ve also said that they’ve got to roll back their 20 percent advanced enrichment … down to zero.” In fact, the deal allows Iran uranium enrichment of 5 percent.
– “Eighty percent of Americans support including higher taxes as part of the [debt ceiling] deal.” However, that same week, a poll by Rasmussen showed only 34 percent supported a tax hike as part of the deal.
– In 2006: “America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I, therefore, intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit.” But as president, Obama has led the charge each year to increase America’s debt.
– “If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what. … You can keep your family doctor.”
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– “We will close the detention camp in Guantanamo Bay.” Still open.
– “If we have not gotten our troops out [of Iraq] by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do.” Didn’t happen.
– “Today I’m pledging to cut the deficit in half by the end of my first term in office.” Instead, the national debt increased $5 trillion on his watch.
– “As soon as we’re out of this recession, we’ve got to get serious about starting to live within our means.” Huh?
– “We agree on reforms that will reduce the costs of health care. Families will save on their premiums.”
– “We’ve got shovel-ready projects all across the country.” Later, Obama admitted his own lie, saying, “There’s no such thing as shovel-ready projects.”
– “We reject the use of national security … to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime.”
– We “will ensure that federal contracts over $25,000 are competitively bid.”
– We “will eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year.”
– “We are going to work with you to lower your [health care] premiums by $2,500,” and we’ll “do it by the end of my first term as president.”
– “I don’t take a dime of their [lobbyists’] money, and when I am president, they won’t find a job in my White House.” In fact, Obama granted waivers at will, and more than a dozen lobbyists got jobs in the Obama administration.
– “I pledge to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution.” But Obama has ignored the constitutional amendment granting powers not enumerated in the Constitution to the states.
– “If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”
– “The sequester is not something that I’ve proposed. It is something that Congress has proposed.” The truth is that the White House proposed an “automatic sequester” on July 12, 2011.
– “I didn’t set a red line [in Syria].” And yet, at a prior news conference, using unscripted language in a statement, he said, “a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around.”
– “It’s here that companies like Solyndra are leading the way toward a brighter and more prosperous future.” After Obama’s administration gave the company $535 million, Solyndra and its solar panels went belly up.
– To Israel, “We have not only made sure that they [Iran] have to stop adding additional centrifuges, we’ve also said that they’ve got to roll back their 20 percent advanced enrichment … down to zero.” In fact, the deal allows Iran uranium enrichment of 5 percent.
– “Eighty percent of Americans support including higher taxes as part of the [debt ceiling] deal.” However, that same week, a poll by Rasmussen showed only 34 percent supported a tax hike as part of the deal.
– In 2006: “America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I, therefore, intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit.” But as president, Obama has led the charge each year to increase America’s debt.
– “If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what. … You can keep your family doctor.”
Trump hasn't even taken office yet
His list of LIES will eclipse any other POTUS and same goes for his fuck ups.
His incoming administration is already in chaos
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Keep watching MSNBC I guess.
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Trump hasn't even taken office yet
His list of LIES will eclipse any other POTUS and same goes for his fuck ups.
His incoming administration is already in chaos
Come on man, you're smarter than this. Why is it so hard to admit, that maybe these guys have no clue of all of the different bullshit going in, and after drinking from the firehouse after inauguration realize how hard it will be to impliment those campaign promise to a policy. Instead, as we've seen in this board which is a microcosm of the partisan arguments that plague our government, they argue until nothing gets done and no one wants to negotiate. That usually means sides giving up something to get closer to a common goal. Hopefully with Trumps background he can get everyone to that happy place where they agree to quit bitching for the good of the common people who voted their asses in office.
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Are you this bitter in real life?
No, but I would bet just as stupid
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Come on man, you're smarter than this. Why is it so hard to admit, that maybe these guys have no clue of all of the different bullshit going in, and after drinking from the firehouse after inauguration realize how hard it will be to impliment those campaign promise to a policy. Instead, as we've seen in this board which is a microcosm of the partisan arguments that plague our government, they argue until nothing gets done and no one wants to negotiate. That usually means sides giving up something to get closer to a common goal. Hopefully with Trumps background he can get everyone to that happy place where they agree to quit bitching for the good of the common people who voted their asses in office.
good point
what should Americans give up ?
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good point
what should Americans give up ?
Liberalism and your grand delusion that Marxism will happily take over
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Liberalism and your grand delusion that Marxism will happily take over
After Trump is done destroying America, I doubt anyone will give their confidence to the GOP for the next 20 years.
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I suspect a Hillary come back in 4 years..
The Teflon Don is not getting prosecuted... ;D
Will be laughing at all the conspiracy getbiggers as the rumor is she is attending the inauguration ;D
She did win the popular vote..
So there is support there..
All she has to do is spent all her time in the swing states she lost to the Donald..
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good point
what should Americans give up ?
We all have to give up a little. I have no delusions that the strong will at times carry the weak such is the case in our welfare system. I give up more tax money so that others can have things that they may not necessarily be able to afford otherwise. That doesn't mean it is not ready for some policing or change though. It's a bit broken in its current system. We live in a country of 300 million, nobody is going to get everything they want all of the time.
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Can we all agree we need to secure our borders? ???
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After Trump is done destroying America, I doubt anyone will give their confidence to the GOP for the next 20 years.
And how exactly is he going to do that? You see we have 3 branches of government, the POTUS is not the king of America, there are checks and balances.
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Can we all agree we need to secure our borders? ???
A wall won't do it..
They need tuffer laws..
The wall will be a waste of money..
A couple of buddies of mine work border patrol sector in McAllen Texas..
And all say the wall won't do shit to deter a Mexican or any person from another country from come in..
What they need is more man power and tuffer laws..
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A wall won't do it..
They need tuffer laws..
The wall will be a waste of money..
A couple of buddies of mine work border patrol sector in McAllen Texas..
And all say the wall won't do shit to deter a Mexican or any person from another country from come in..
What they need is more man power and tuffer laws..
So you've seen the blueprints for the wall/fence that will be implemented?
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So you've seen the blueprints for the wall/fence that will be implemented?
There likely isn't one yet. From what I've read, the wall will be more like a tall fence. The border patrol says that it won't work.
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So you've seen the blueprints for the wall/fence that will be implemented?
Do a search on YouTube ..
There are tons of videos of people @ drugs going over and under the wall..
It won't work....
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Just a few examples why trump wall wont work..
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https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=JAOQ8rNO-iI (https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=JAOQ8rNO-iI)
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https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=waHPeTcIucM (https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=waHPeTcIucM)
Happens everyday...
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My favorite...
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Must see..
https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=Qdc-kv7nzaU (https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=Qdc-kv7nzaU)
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can't wait to get to prove you guys wrong all over again ;D
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can't wait to get to prove you guys wrong all over again ;D
Gluttons for punishment it seems.
They will eventually get something right however and then be super excited/ "I told you so" and think it proves everything they have said is correct/right then continue on with their delusional belief systems.
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Gluttons for punishment it seems.
They will eventually get something right however and then be super excited/ "I told you so" and think it proves everything they have said is correct/right then continue on with their delusional belief systems.
Who are they?
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Who are they?
are you that retarded?
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are you that retarded?
I already admitted to you that I'm stupid. What the fuck more do you want?
BTW, I know who "they" were in your post. I was being snide plus I hate the overuse and application of that word. Technically, "they" is anyone but yourself.
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I already admitted to you that I'm stupid. What the fuck more do you want?
BTW, I know who "they" were in your post. I was being snide plus I hate the overuse and application of that word. Technically, "they" is anyone but yourself.
Seriously, read before you post. He never posted "they" unless we are gimmick accounts.
And nope, "they" does not "technically" mean that when the subjects are easily identified.
You are horrible at being snide as well. Mistake after mistake to cover up that you simply do not read before posting or do not understand what you are reading.
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Seriously, read before you post. He never posted "they" unless we are gimmick accounts.
And nope, "they" does not "technically" mean that when the subjects are easily identified.
You are horrible at being snide as well. Mistake after mistake to cover up that you simply do not read before posting or do not understand what you are reading.
No he didn't post they, you did. He responded with a negative comment. Now who's not paying attention. BTW in the context you used they, my question, although snide, was completely appropriate.
The word you were looking for was no and not nope. "And nope, "they" does not "technically" mean that when the subjects are easily identified". So here you go again. Does not mean what?
Definition of they:
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a : those ones —used as third person pronoun serving as the plural of he, she, or it or referring to a group of two or more individuals not all of the same sex <they dance well>
b : 1 he 2 —often used with an indefinite third person singular antecedent <everyone knew where they stood — E. L. Doctorow> <nobody has to go to school if they don't want to — N. Y. Times>
2: people 2 —used in a generic sense <as lazy as they come>
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Who on here is/was actually stupid enough to believe there would ever be a wall built? No matter who paid for it? Please identify yourself so we can marvel that you possess enough brain cells to actually breath.
There won't be a wall. There won't even be a fence. At the most, all we can hope for is Trumptards lining up at the border and holding hands Red Rover style to catch the illegals from dashing through.
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Who on here is/was actually stupid enough to believe there would ever be a wall built? No matter who paid for it? Please identify yourself so we can marvel that you possess enough brain cells to actually breath.
There won't be a wall. There won't even be a fence. At the most, all we can hope for is Trumptards lining up at the border and holding hands Red Rover style to catch the illegals from dashing through.
Do you want to bet our GetBig accounts over it? Loser gets banned for life?
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Do you want to bet our GetBig accounts over it? Loser gets banned for life?
Sure thing.
Of course, in eight years your GetBig account will be worth the same it is today. Nothing.
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Sure thing.
Of course, in eight years your GetBig account will be worth the same it is today. Nothing.
just like your opinion above
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just like your opinion above
True. Just like yours. Then again we don't need eight years to reach that conclusion about you.
So what are the terms of this bet? Four year time limit? Eight years if reelected? Wall has to be a physical standing structure that separates the entire US/Messyco border?
Lay out the terms for this bet.
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True. Just like yours. Then again we don't need eight years to reach that conclusion about you.
So what are the terms of this bet? Four year time limit? Eight years if reelected? Wall has to be a physical standing structure that separates the entire US/Messyco border?
Lay out the terms for this bet.
Let's keep it simple. 4 years is plenty time.
You said there won't be a wall. I say there will.
Winner can keep posting.
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Let's keep it simple. 4 years is plenty time.
You said there won't be a wall. I say there will.
Winner can keep posting.
Ok that is great.
4 years.
Physical standing structure separating the entire US/Mexico border.
No real issue about height requirement or who will pay for it.
Deal?
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Ok that is great.
4 years.
Physical standing structure separating the entire US/Mexico border.
No real issue about height requirement or who will pay for it.
Deal?
Weasel words...
Already stated that mountainous terrain won't need a wall. I'd be foolish to accept those terms without agreeing that mountainous terrain is considered to be a "physical standing structure".
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Weasel words...
Already stated that mountainous terrain won't need a wall. I'd be foolish to accept those terms without agreeing that mountainous terrain is considered to be a "physical standing structure".
Dude, you can't build mountains. We are talking about a man made construct. That should have been obvious that natural boundaries were included and exempted. ::)
Second guessing your own bet now I see.
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Dude, you can't build mountains. We are talking about a man made construct. That should have been obvious that natural boundaries were included and exempted. ::)
Second guessing your own bet now I see.
no. just going by what's already been officially stated.
BET'S OFF!!!! I probably won't even be posting here in 4 years. (God willing)
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Whatever dude, it was your bet. ::)
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Let's keep it simple. 4 years is plenty time.
You said there won't be a wall. I say there will.
Winner can keep posting.
If every elected official was held to that standard, we'd see a run on resignations. :D
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Let's keep it simple. 4 years is plenty time.
You said there won't be a wall. I say there will.
Winner can keep posting.
Some folks believe this administration won't last four years. Unless someone cuts off Trump's tiny fingers so he can no longer tweet, there is a real possibility he will be history in short order.
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Some folks believe this administration won't last four years. Unless someone cuts off Trump's tiny fingers so he can no longer tweet, there is a real possibility he will be history in short order.
Who?
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Who?
Skeptical people, hopeful people, disenchanted people and hateful people to name a few.
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Skeptical people, hopeful people, disenchanted people and hateful people to name a few.
wow... specific... is this your opinion? feel free to post some sources.
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No he didn't post they, you did. He responded with a negative comment. Now who's not paying attention. BTW in the context you used they, my question, although snide, was completely appropriate.
The word you were looking for was no and not nope. "And nope, "they" does not "technically" mean that when the subjects are easily identified". So here you go again. Does not mean what?
Definition of they:
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a : those ones —used as third person pronoun serving as the plural of he, she, or it or referring to a group of two or more individuals not all of the same sex <they dance well>
b : 1 he 2 —often used with an indefinite third person singular antecedent <everyone knew where they stood — E. L. Doctorow> <nobody has to go to school if they don't want to — N. Y. Times>
2: people 2 —used in a generic sense <as lazy as they come>
Oxford dictionary:
PRONOUN
1Used to refer to two or more people or things previously mentioned or easily identified:
Your definitions are in there as well but cherrypicking is the norm for those like you.
You are a complete fool and this has been shown over and over again.
Sorry, Mr. Fool, but you quoted him and posted that he used the word "they". Don't backtrack and read before posting. Further evidence is that you posted that you had already admitted that you are dumb to him. That reply was in another thread to ME. Wrong again, Mr. Fool.
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Oxford dictionary:
PRONOUN
1Used to refer to two or more people or things previously mentioned or easily identified:
Your definitions are in there as well but cherrypicking is the norm for those like you.
You are a complete fool and this has been shown over and over again.
Sorry, Mr. Fool, but you quoted him and posted that he used the word "they". Don't backtrack and read before posting. Further evidence is that you posted that you had already admitted that you are dumb to him. That reply was in another thread to ME. Wrong again, Mr. Fool.
What would I do without you? Better still, what would you do without "people like me". ;)
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