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On the short. Big disgrace if it happens
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On the short. Big disgrace if it happens
Would you bottom for him?
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Would you bottom for him?
I'm curious as well.
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Who is he? Peyton and Eli's brother? Any relation to Ray or Jay Cutler?
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On the short. Big disgrace if it happens
More disgraceful than Petraeus walking around free after leaking shit to his Mistress?
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More disgraceful than Petraeus walking around free after leaking shit to his Mistress?
Yes
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On the short. Big disgrace if it happens
why? He's a true patriot.
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isn't he the guy who had a sex reassignment op to avoid men's jail?
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So a whistle-blower releases info on how the US government is abusing their power, killing civilians, first responders, and journalists, and HE'S the bad guy. Vince you're petty. Very petty. Manning is a fucking hero for doing this and should be thanked by US citizens for showing them what the US army is doing with THEIR tax dollars. This becomes murder and the blood is on everyone's hands (who pays US taxes).
I really hope you're trolling with this thread, but I think you might be brainwashed enough to believe government bullshit.
There was a time in US history where whistle-blowers were hailed as heroes. Unfortunately tyranny now runs your country.
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On the short. Big disgrace if it happens
You can add this to your ever growing list of retarded comments.
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So a whistle-blower releases info on how the US government is abusing their power, killing civilians, first responders, and journalists, and HE'S the bad guy. Vince you're petty. Very petty. Manning is a fucking hero for doing this and should be thanked by US citizens for showing them what the US army is doing with THEIR tax dollars. This becomes murder and the blood is on everyone's hands (who pays US taxes).
I really hope you're trolling with this thread, but I think you might be brainwashed enough to believe government bullshit.
There was a time in US history where whistle-blowers were hailed as heroes. Unfortunately tyranny now runs your country.
he's only apathetic because his paltry tax dollars, on a good year, pays for gum
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isn't he the guy who had a sex reassignment op to avoid men's jail?
Yeah, he really avoided jail. Lived like a King, this one:
Private Manning is in solitary confinement at the Marine Corps brig in Quantico, Va. For one hour a day, he is allowed to walk around a room in shackles. He is forced to remove all his clothes every night. And every morning he is required to stand outside his cell, naked, until he passes inspection and is given his clothes back.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE2D6133EF936A25750C0A9679D8B63&scp=2&sq=%22Bradley+Manning%22&st=nyt (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE2D6133EF936A25750C0A9679D8B63&scp=2&sq=%22Bradley+Manning%22&st=nyt)
Juan Mendez has completed a 14-month investigation into the treatment of Manning since the soldier's arrest at a US military base in May 2010. He concludes that the US military was at least culpable of cruel and inhumane treatment in keeping Manning locked up alone for 23 hours a day over an 11-month period in conditions that he also found might have constituted torture.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/mar/12/bradley-manning-cruel-inhuman-treatment-un (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/mar/12/bradley-manning-cruel-inhuman-treatment-un)
This is the USA these days. THIS. If I was American I'd be ashamed of what my country is doing.
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So a whistle-blower releases info on how the US government is abusing their power, killing civilians, first responders, and journalists, and HE'S the bad guy. Vince you're petty. Very petty. Manning is a fucking hero for doing this and should be thanked by US citizens for showing them what the US army is doing with THEIR tax dollars. This becomes murder and the blood is on everyone's hands (who pays US taxes).
I really hope you're trolling with this thread, but I think you might be brainwashed enough to believe government bullshit.
There was a time in US history where whistle-blowers were hailed as heroes. Unfortunately tyranny now runs your country.
He should have contacted an attorney or the Justice Dept instead of some random internet trolls. He took an oath and he broke it. If it happenned during WW2 he would have been on the business end of a rope and long dropped over a bridge.
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He should have contacted an attorney or the Justice Dept instead of some random internet trolls. He took an oath and he broke it. If it happenned during WW2 he would have been on the business end of a rope and long dropped over a bridge.
I agree Vince, he's a disgrace.
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Yeah, he really avoided jail. Lived like a King, this one:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE2D6133EF936A25750C0A9679D8B63&scp=2&sq=%22Bradley+Manning%22&st=nyt (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE2D6133EF936A25750C0A9679D8B63&scp=2&sq=%22Bradley+Manning%22&st=nyt)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/mar/12/bradley-manning-cruel-inhuman-treatment-un (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/mar/12/bradley-manning-cruel-inhuman-treatment-un)
This is the USA these days. THIS. If I was American I'd be ashamed of what my country is doing.
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US justice system IS a joke. Undergoing a sex change OP to avoid men's jail IS a joke too. And the whole story doesn't come as a surprise at all. Btw, tell me in what country you can expect a fair justice? ::)
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So a whistle-blower releases info on how the US government is abusing their power, killing civilians, first responders, and journalists, and HE'S the bad guy. Vince you're petty. Very petty. Manning is a fucking hero for doing this and should be thanked by US citizens for showing them what the US army is doing with THEIR tax dollars. This becomes murder and the blood is on everyone's hands (who pays US taxes).
I really hope you're trolling with this thread, but I think you might be brainwashed enough to believe government bullshit.
There was a time in US history where whistle-blowers were hailed as heroes. Unfortunately tyranny now runs your country.
Agree with this 100%
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He should have contacted an attorney or the Justice Dept instead of some random internet trolls. He took an oath and he broke it. If it happenned during WW2 he would have been on the business end of a rope and long dropped over a bridge.
If you spoke back to white man like you just did during WW2 you would have been on the business end of a rope
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If you spoke back to white man like you just did during WW2 you would have been on the business end of a rope
Wouldn't have had to.....Army was segregated, dipshit. Other than the occasional salute, me and the boys would have been cracking jokes about Mr Charlie...... ;D
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Wouldn't have had to.....Army was segregated, dipshit. Other than the occasional salute, me and the boys would have been cracking jokes about Mr Charlie...... ;D
Cannon fodder
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Who is he? Peyton and Eli's brother? Any relation to Ray or Jay Cutler?
Just another pickle smoocher.
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So a whistle-blower releases info on how the US government is abusing their power, killing civilians, first responders, and journalists, and HE'S the bad guy. Vince you're petty. Very petty. Manning is a fucking hero for doing this and should be thanked by US citizens for showing them what the US army is doing with THEIR tax dollars. This becomes murder and the blood is on everyone's hands (who pays US taxes).
I really hope you're trolling with this thread, but I think you might be brainwashed enough to believe government bullshit.
There was a time in US history where whistle-blowers were hailed as heroes. Unfortunately tyranny now runs your country.
Yeah, he really avoided jail. Lived like a King, this one:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE2D6133EF936A25750C0A9679D8B63&scp=2&sq=%22Bradley+Manning%22&st=nyt (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE2D6133EF936A25750C0A9679D8B63&scp=2&sq=%22Bradley+Manning%22&st=nyt)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/mar/12/bradley-manning-cruel-inhuman-treatment-un (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/mar/12/bradley-manning-cruel-inhuman-treatment-un)
This is the USA these days. THIS. If I was American I'd be ashamed of what my country is doing.
Great posts
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Yes
Why is that?
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On the short. Big disgrace if it happens
If you encountered him, would there be any prolapsing happening?
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He should have contacted an attorney or the Justice Dept instead of some random internet trolls. He took an oath and he broke it. If it happenned during WW2 he would have been on the business end of a rope and long dropped over a bridge.
Since you're reminiscing about the good ole days of WWII, let me remind you that back then you'd have been cannon fodder, if you hadn't already been hung from that same bridge for being a sexual deviant.
Manning's oath, ultimately, was to defend the Constitution. He saw horrific abuse by the US Governmenf and he decided to expose it. He broke a confidentiality agreement that he signed with the government in order to do so.
Petraeus broke the same agreement. He shared far more valuable and highly classified data and for much less admirable reasons - basically to impress a chick and get his dick wet. And you're fine with him receiving no punishment at all. I can't help but feel you're being a bit of a hypocrite.
As for going through appropriate channels, we saw how well that worked for people like Snowden, Binney and Klein.
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Since you're reminiscing about the good ole days of WWII, let me remind you that back then you'd have been cannon fodder, if you hadn't already been hung from that same bridge for being a sexual deviant.
Manning's oath, ultimately, was to defend the Constitution. He saw horrific abuse by the US Governmenf and he decided to expose it. He broke a confidentiality agreement that he signed with the government in order to do so.
Petraeus broke the same agreement. He shared far more valuable and highly classified data and for much less admirable reasons - basically to impress a chick and get his dick wet. And you're fine with him receiving no punishment at all. I can't help but feel you're being a bit of a hypocrite.
As for going through appropriate channels, we saw how well that worked for people like Snowden, Binney and Klein.
I wouldn't have been stupid enough to pound a man's ass on base....even if I was, I would have ended up with a blue discharge and likely would have moved to San Francisco to wait tables or shine shoes. No matter what in life, I always have a game plan.
Yes, Manning had a right to defend the Constitution but he was also a military soldier and he was trusted with sensitive information. Rather than going through the proper channels...even contacting an attorney, he gave all the information to internet trolls. That material was used to recruit more people to ISIS.
As far as his sentence is concerned, it was harsh but he pleaded guilty to 10 of the charges because he knew he fucked up. His treatment in prison has been unreasonable and can be considered torture but he is still in the right place. His accommodations should be upgraded to a regular military prisoner but it doesn't disqualify his incarceration.
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I wouldn't have been stupid enough to pound a man's ass on base....even if I was, I would have ended up with a blue discharge and likely would have moved to San Francisco to wait tables or shine shoes. No matter what in life, I always have a game plan.
Yes, Manning had a right to defend the Constitution but he was also a military soldier and he was trusted with sensitive information. Rather than going through the proper channels...even contacting an attorney, he gave all the information to internet trolls. That material was used to recruit more people to ISIS.
As far as his sentence is concerned, it was harsh but he pleaded guilty to 10 of the charges because he knew he fucked up. His treatment in prison has been unreasonable and can be considered torture but he is still in the right place. His accommodations should be upgraded to a regular military prisoner but it doesn't disqualify his incarceration.
I don't have access to everything Manning leaked, but from what I've seen, his material documents extraordinary abuse and misconduct by the United States and its agents. Yes, such material may be damaging but that does not mean it ought to be hidden. Perhaps he leaked more, and that material was extraordinarily sensitive and damaging, but I doubt it.
Again, the material Petraeus wrote down in notebooks during his time in Iraq (dates of operations, places, results of meetings and long-term strategic goals) and which he kept at his home (not a facility authorized for the storage of classified documents) appear to me far more sensitive. He made all that and more available to a woman who was writing his biography and sucking his dick.
Motive matters: Manning was, apparently, motivated by a desire to expose misconduct. Petraeus was, apparently, motivated by a desire to have his ego and his dick stroked.
And, as is typical, Petraeus got away practically scot-free because he's important and licked the rectum of every politicians and Administration official he could get his tongue on. Washington folks are into that kind of thing. And so, a Judge deemed Petraeus being exposed and having articles written about him was punishment enough, gave him probation, a token fine and told him to go on his merry way. He wasn't even reduced one step in rank!
Manning, who knew nobody and pled guilty, received no leniency but, instead a sentence enhancement.
When Petraeus plays golf or talks with his politician buddies, Manning is in isolation, eating prison food.
The world is Petraeus' oyster. What will he do next? Be a politician? A private analyst? A public speaker? Who knows... but things are looking good.
A cell is Manning's world. He knows what he'll do next: spend more time in isolation, being treated like a subhuman, until the times comes for another suicide attempt.
So, given all this, you will forgive me if I see absolutely nothing wrong with granting Manning clemency.
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Since you're reminiscing about the good ole days of WWII, let me remind you that back then you'd have been cannon fodder, if you hadn't already been hung from that same bridge for being a sexual deviant.
Manning's oath, ultimately, was to defend the Constitution. He saw horrific abuse by the US Governmenf and he decided to expose it. He broke a confidentiality agreement that he signed with the government in order to do so.
Petraeus broke the same agreement. He shared far more valuable and highly classified data and for much less admirable reasons - basically to impress a chick and get his dick wet. And you're fine with him receiving no punishment at all. I can't help but feel you're being a bit of a hypocrite.
As for going through appropriate channels, we saw how well that worked for people like Snowden, Binney and Klein.
You make it sound like you've never done such things for sex. Give up the charade already.
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You make it sound like you've never done such things for sex. Give up the charade already.
I work in academia. Bitches and hoes are all over me to read pre-publication versions of my papers about protein folding. The ivory tower is a kinky place.
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I don't have access to everything Manning leaked, but from what I've seen, his material documents extraordinary abuse and misconduct by the United States and its agents. Yes, such material may be damaging but that does not mean it ought to be hidden. Perhaps he leaked more, and that material was extraordinarily sensitive and damaging, but I doubt it.
Again, the material Petraeus wrote down in notebooks during his time in Iraq (dates of operations, places, results of meetings and long-term strategic goals) and which he kept at his home (not a facility authorized for the storage of classified documents) appear to me far more sensitive. He made all that and more available to a woman who was writing his biography and sucking his dick.
Motive matters: Manning was, apparently, motivated by a desire to expose misconduct. Petraeus was, apparently, motivated by a desire to have his ego and his dick stroked.
And, as is typical, Petraeus got away practically scot-free because he's important and licked the rectum of every politicians and Administration official he could get his tongue on. Washington folks are into that kind of thing. And so, a Judge deemed Petraeus being exposed and having articles written about him was punishment enough, gave him probation, a token fine and told him to go on his merry way. He wasn't even reduced one step in rank!
Manning, who knew nobody and pled guilty, received no leniency but, instead a sentence enhancement.
When Petraeus plays golf or talks with his politician buddies, Manning is in isolation, eating prison food.
The world is Petraeus' oyster. What will he do next? Be a politician? A private analyst? A public speaker? Who knows... but things are looking good.
A cell is Manning's world. He knows what he'll do next: spend more time in isolation, being treated like a subhuman, until the times comes for another suicide attempt.
So, given all this, you will forgive me if I see absolutely nothing wrong with granting Manning clemency.
Petraeus was an officer in the military. The rules are much different than an enlisted person. Yes, he should be in jail along with a lot of other people but they are not because they are above the law. They are not going to throw a general in prison....sorry but that shit will never happen. I'm not sure why you brought that up with me as if I was endorsing him not getting any jail time.
For enlisted people, you're basically the ni ggers of the military.
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Petraeus was an officer in the military. The rules are much different than an enlisted person. Yes, he should be in jail along with a lot of other people but they are not because they are above the law. They are not going to throw a general in prison....sorry but that shit will never happen. I'm not sure why you brought that up with me as if I was endorsing him not getting any jail time.
I'm bringing it up because it's terribly unjust - and doubly so because Manning's leaks were based on principle, whereas Petraeus were based on a need to feed his ego and get his dick sucked. As for Petraeus' rank and his connections giving him cover, well there's no surprise there: the powerful always get better treatment. That only makes Manning's punishment even more unjust. Now, perhaps you're just so used to injustice that you find this situation not only tolerable but acceptable. As for me, I can't tolerate injustice.
Yes, leaking information is bad; I think those who do ought to be punished. But, with everything considered, I personally find Manning's punishment to be be unfair and cruel, especially in light of Petraeus sentence for the same thing. I support clemency for Manning.
For enlisted people, you're basically the ni ggers of the military.
You see everything through race-colored glasses don't you? As for enlisted men and women, those brave dindus, who signed up in exchange for a burrito and College money, are the tip of our Military's proverbial spear. I salute them!
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For enlisted people, you're basically the ni ggers of the military.
Did you actually serve, or are one of these guys who "has a lot of friends who were Rangers and Special Forces" ? ::)
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It just happened.
Fucking Obama.
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The president-elect just chimed in.
Donald J. Trump @eealDonaldTrump · 6 minutes ago
@AP Obama, the Criminal in Chief. What a disaster! We will UPHOLD the law, not promote lawlessness like LIGHTWIEGHT Obama!
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Are the American taxpayers still going to be forced to pay for this freak's sex change? ???
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Look at this. Its parents must be so proud. ::)
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I'm glad they will let him go but that is because I am not American and would like to see you guys tone down with the war crimes a bit.
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Did you actually serve, or are one of these guys who "has a lot of friends who were Rangers and Special Forces" ? ::)
Yes, I was in the Army. PFC in fact...same as Manning
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On the short. Big disgrace if it happens
I agree 100% on this one .
I voted for Obama , but, this action is real bitch slap to the US military.
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I agree 100% on this one .
I voted for Obama , but, this action is real bitch slap to the US military.
Without the protection of prison suicide watch, she will likely succeed in killing herself once released.
Some folks praise Julian Assange and Wikileaks for informing the public. Why do you not feel the same way about Chelsea?
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Some folks praise Julian Assange and Wikileaks for informing the public. Why do you not feel the same way about Chelsea?
Simple.
Assange is not a member of the United States military.
He isn't even an American citizen.
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Simple.
Assange is not a member of the United States military.
He isn't even an American citizen.
True, but he's still exploiting stolen classified information by publishing it, which compromises our security.
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Without the protection of prison suicide watch, she will likely succeed in killing herself once released.
Some folks praise Julian Assange and Wikileaks for informing the public. Why do you not feel the same way about Chelsea?
I'm totally against releasing classified military info just because you can hack in .
Assange, Snowden and Manning , etc should all be in jail.
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I'm totally against releasing classified military info just because you can hack in .
Do you believe the government should be able to classify evidence of its (and its agents') misconduct so that it never sees the light of day?
True, but he's still exploiting stolen classified information by publishing it, which compromises our security.
How trite. Can you explain how any of the Manning leaks actually compromised our security? Be specific - cite the leak and explain how the leak compromised our security. Don't just give us some hand-wavey abstract shit.
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The only reason Obama is letting it out of prision, is because of the transgender shit. This political world gets craizer by the minute.
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Do you believe the government should be able to classify evidence of its (and its agents') misconduct so that it never sees the light of day?
How trite. Can you explain how any of the Manning leaks actually compromised our security? Be specific - cite the leak and explain how the leak compromised our security. Don't just give us some hand-wavey abstract shit.
You are right Manning did nothing to compromise security. The U.S. government just locked him her up for the heck of it.
I'm not your student, don't be giving me this stupid homework.
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The only reason Obama is letting it out of prision, is because of the transgender shit. This political world gets craizer by the minute.
What does hormone therapy and gender reassignment surgery for an incarcerated person cost taxpayers? I'll answer this for you. It can run upwards of $100,000. Manning spent time in solitary (protective watch) which also isn't cheap. It costs $78,000 a year to house someone in the federal prison system in solitary. Manning was in solitary because of two attempted suicides. Pardoning her sentence likely saves the government a lot of money.
About one thing, you are right on. The political world gets crazier by the minute.
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This fucking freak show should be hung for treason.
Plain and simple.
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with access to better drugs, I see no reason for her to obtain this level
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I agree 100% on this one .
I voted for Obama , but, this action is real bitch slap to the US military.
Well, actually its a somewhat good thing as Obama commuted the sentence up to when he would have been released on good behavior leaving in all the penalties and sanctions including that dishonorable discharge. While I'm sure he'll make millions from books and etc, he cannot do things such as travel outside the country or own a firearm.
His treatment in prison was appalling and if Obama didn't do it, he would have left the facility in a bodybag with Trump around
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Aside from removing your clothes at night, being locked down 23hrs a day is normal "administrative segregation/ad-seg" policy.
Except in a regular prison, they'll give you seroquel or trazadone to sleep at 9pm roughly and "wake u up" at 3am when you're dead asleep and ask if you want your "rec time" (your 1hr out of the cell and only chance to shower)... Usually you're so out of it you refuse or just don't wake up and it'll be 4,5,6 days before you get out of your cell.... Also, the lights are on bright 24-7 so you have no idea what time or day it is. Ask a guard he'll say "nighttime"... Or "its a week day".
Clearly, you are expert on this subject. You do know that Manning was in solitary precisely because she attempted suicide?
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I'm totally against releasing classified military info just because you can hack in .
Assange, Snowden and Manning , etc should all be in jail.
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Can't believe it...
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I'm totally against releasing classified military info just because you can hack in .
Assange, Snowden and Manning , etc should all be in jail.
I agree with you.
From what I heard on the news today, Manning's 35 year sentence was excessive. The time she served is consistent with what most people who commit these offenses serve. After being charged and convicted of violating the Espionage Act, stealing government property, violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, multiple counts of disobeying orders. All this apparently falls short of actual treason.
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I agree with you.
From what I heard on the news today, Manning's 35 year sentence was excessive. The time she served is consistent with what most people who commit these offenses serve. After being charged and convicted of violating the Espionage Act, stealing government property, violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, multiple counts of disobeying orders. All this apparently falls short of actual treason.
Really? Were you against Assange when they released info and emails against Bush and Palin?
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You are right Manning did nothing to compromise security. The U.S. government just locked him her up for the heck of it.
Yeah, because Government is a paragon of virtue, and they'd never do such a thing... Look, based on the statute, whether Manning compromised security or not plays no part in the decision calculus. It comes down to whether Manning leaked classified documents or not. Leaking the classified NSA cafeteria menu would be just as illegal - and I hardly doubt that knowing whether they're serving pasta or beef would harm the security of the United States. Unless you think that we're at risk of catabolism.
I'm not your student, don't be giving me this stupid homework.
You asserted Manning's leaks hurt national security. Asking you to support that assertion is homework?
You could have said: "but Manning didn't just leak details about abuse; there were also a lot of diplomatic cables containing sensitive information which shouldn't have been exposed." And you could have used that to make a plausible argument that there was some damage to U.S. national security although, in my opinion, I'd probably consider this more "embarassment" than anything else. That's my assessment and someone else may consider the cables to be a lot more damaging.
But instead of supporting your position you chose to act like the ornery fool you are.
The bottom line, and my point along with it, is, ultimately, rather simple: I agree that Manning broke the law and should be punished. But I think that the punishment should be fair and justice should be served.
Sentencing Manning to 35 years seems to be to be both unfair and unjust, especially considering that the information was leaked to the American public to document abuses done in our name by the United States Government..
It's doubly unjust when you consider that General Petraeus, who filled notebook after notebook full of classified information during his time in the Army, which he then stored at his home, and gave access to those notebooks along with other documents from his tenure at the CIA, to his Mistress who was also writing his autobigraphy.
Manning leaked his data on principle and leaked it to the press and the American people. He gets 35 years.
Petraeus leaked his data because his cock and ego needed stroking and leaked it to the first woman willing to take care of both his problems. He gets two years probation and teaching positions at Universities, and private investment firms.
And, as if the Petraeus case wasn't enough, Manning's punishment is, in my opinion, triply unjust when Hillary Clinton, whose own e-mail asks an aide to remove classification markings from a classified document so that it can be sent over unsecure fax to name just one example, escapes with just "well, she was careless."
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Obama releasing Oscar Lopez.
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I don't care what she or whatever it wasn't solitaire by the way it's not really cold solitary is called administrative segregation by the way... And usually people who attempt suicide are given what's called Barney suit to where they don't make them sleep naked usually... Because it's fucking freezing cold and no cells usually... Barney suit looks just like something Barney Rubble from The Flintstones but where except it's made of heavy thick quilted material usually blue and damn near impossible to tie in a knot or make a noose out of it
I am learning many things about prison life from you which I otherwise would not know. Thanks for sharing your extensive knowledge on this subject.
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It looks like this dishonorably discharged fag is not going to be able to get the government to pay to turn him into an ugly he/she.
Good.
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It looks like this dishonorably discharged fag is not going to be able to get the government to pay to turn him into an ugly he/she.
Good.
Sadly, legions of get-biggers won't get full service treatment now from Ms Manning.
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It looks like this dishonorably discharged fag is not going to be able to get the government to pay to turn him into an ugly he/she.
Good.
He going to make millions off book deals, etc.
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I don't care what she or whatever it wasn't solitaire by the way it's not really cold solitary is called administrative segregation by the way... And usually people who attempt suicide are given what's called Barney suit to where they don't make them sleep naked usually... Because it's fucking freezing cold and no cells usually... Barney suit looks just like something Barney Rubble from The Flintstones but where except it's made of heavy thick quilted material usually blue and damn near impossible to tie in a knot or make a noose out of it
In Manning's case, wouldn't it be more of a "Betty suit" ?
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He going to make millions off book deals, etc.
I'd say there is a better chance it will now succeed in killing itself.
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I'd say there is a better chance it will now succeed in killing itself.
His suicide attempts were due to his treatment. A few meds and a taste of freedom and he'll be fine