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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Never1AShow on January 21, 2017, 07:29:16 PM
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For decades I have believed in doing cardio only after I had hit the weights. My bro science reasons for this were 1) it would take energy away from lifting heavy and hard and 2) it would tire me out and sap my intensity.
I am not as focused anymore on size or heavy pound ages so I tried it the other way today with cardio first and I think I like it better. For years I have kinda dreaded the cardio at the end, but today I was inclined to do a few more sets on the weights knowing cardio was over and really feel like I ended with a bang. Also I doubt I'll have any incentive to skip the weights like I sometimes did with the cardio.
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Cardio ALWAYS after weights. Lifting eats up all your glycogen so then when you hop on the treadmill or stationary bike your body will burn fat as fuel. It's the same effect as morning fasted cardio.
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Always after
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Well it matters how old you are and what your goals are. 30 years ago when I had a fast metabolism i would ride my bike to the gym 12 miles. Workout for an hour or so then ride back. This was three times per week. I gained no weight doing this yet i was ripped as fuck and in amazing endurance strength shape. Later I bulked and was able to lift heavy weights naturally, yet even as strong as I became. I still felt more in shape doing the before training.
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After.
Anaerobic activity uses glucose as fuel. Train first and burn as much glucose as possible then hit your cardio and hopefully get to burning fat as fuel as quicklynasnpossible.
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Always after
Anytime cardio is fine. Just do it.
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depends on your goals, if you want to increase your fitness level do it before
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Doesn't a guy with average size store about 300-400 grams of carbs as glycogen - and how much of that do you reallu burn during weights, 10 percent perhaps? I've also often read "glycogen stores are empty post workout!" but that sounds like BS
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Doesn't a guy with average size store about 300-400 grams of carbs as glycogen - and how much of that do you reallu burn during weights, 10 percent perhaps? I've also often read "glycogen stores are empty post workout!" but that sounds like BS
"Empty"? No.. Liver also stores glycogen and produce a glycogen as needed via flyconeogenisis from amino aids.
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Anytime cardio is fine. Just do it.
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Always after... Id like to see the physiques on the before weights mob
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For decades I have believed in doing cardio only after I had hit the weights. My bro science reasons for this were 1) it would take energy away from lifting heavy and hard and 2) it would tire me out and sap my intensity.
I am not as focused anymore on size or heavy pound ages so I tried it the other way today with cardio first and I think I like it better. For years I have kinda dreaded the cardio at the end, but today I was inclined to do a few more sets on the weights knowing cardio was over and really feel like I ended with a bang. Also I doubt I'll have any incentive to skip the weights like I sometimes did with the cardio.
You Never1AShow?
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Always after... Id like to see the physiques on the before weights mob
cross fitters do them both t the same time
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Cardio ALWAYS after weights. Lifting eats up all your glycogen so then when you hop on the treadmill or stationary bike your body will burn fat as fuel. It's the same effect as morning fasted cardio.
Normally it is both morning fasted and after weights (I only have 2 cups of coffee and no breakfast). So I'm already getting the benefit of glycogen depletion, to the extent that's a relevant concern.
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"Empty"? No.. Liver also stores glycogen and produce a glycogen as needed via flyconeogenisis from amino aids.
Good post joon.
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Normally it is both morning fasted and after weights (I only have 2 cups of coffee and no breakfast). So I'm already getting the benefit of glycogen depletion, to the extent that's a relevant concern.
are you ripped yet?
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You Never1AShow?
Nope, never. Came close, but no cigar.
I think the "do it anytime" crowd here is right and the glycogen depletion crowd have a good theory that doesn't pan out as actually true. My guess is whatever helps you the most psychologically to look forward to training is probably the best, especially for non-kids with busy lives who need motivation to get to the gym. Cardio before allows easing into it, but we'll see. I report back in a few months.
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are you ripped yet?
Not any more. Too busy a life, older w no motivation. Lucky if I get to gym 3x a week.
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Good post joon.
I'm not join dude. Pm the modeeators and ask about then ip addresses... Plus theres dudes(&girls) on here who're on my fb.
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OP if you want to do cardio dont go wasting your time walking on the treadmill for an hour if you are looking to burn fat then you need to sprint, sprint as fast as you can for 20 seconds then walk for a bit then sprint again for 20 sec, keeping repeating until you are tired, this is the best way to lose fat and spare muscle for a bodybuilder.
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OP if you want to do cardio dont go wasting your time walking on the treadmill for an hour if you are looking to burn fat then you need to sprint, sprint as fast as you can for 20 seconds then walk for a bit then sprint again for 20 sec, keeping repeating until you are tired, this is the best way to lose fat and spare muscle for a bodybuilder.
thats an especially accurate guide.
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OP if you want to do cardio dont go wasting your time walking on the treadmill for an hour if you are looking to burn fat then you need to sprint, sprint as fast as you can for 20 seconds then walk for a bit then sprint again for 20 sec, keeping repeating until you are tired, this is the best way to lose fat and spare muscle for a bodybuilder.
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sorry man, not trying to be an jerk or anything, but if you aren't trolling and this is the way that you really think and speak then your intelligence is rather low
did you finish high school? and don't tell me your a collage graduate coz I won't believe it
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i do 30 min before and 30 min after
fitness/conditioning is my main goal plus I trains super early so it wakes me up
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sorry man, not trying to be an jerk or anything, but if you aren't trolling and this is the way that you really think and speak then your intelligence is rather low
did you finish high school? and don't tell me your a collage graduate coz I won't believe it
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putting the nail in the coffin?
"Hey you! Yes you laddie! Can't tell a lie!"
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putting the nail in the coffin?
"Hey you! Yes you laddie! Can't tell a lie!"
it means you hit the nail on the head....
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it means you hit the nail on the head....
figured it was that but thanks for clarifying headmaster
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No need for cardio. IF you're a hardcore monster gym addict, all you need is heavy weights with little rest between sets.
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Depends on your goals. If you're a bodybuilder then lifting is the priority. Again most bodybuilders use cardio for cosmetic purposes and not athletic. Most walk fast on an incline. If you are training heavy and looking to increase athletic function then doing cardio on non lifting days works well.
This is what I do. I don't expect anyone to do what I do. Just saying what I do. I lift three days a week and try for three cardio days on non lifting days. I use a three way split with low sets training a set to positive failure. Day one is back and chest. Second day is legs. The last is delt and arms. Do the body parts only get hit one time? No there is a ton of over lap and the body fatigues as a unit and not localized to the body part trained. Speaking of over lap every pulling motion in back training is hitting the bicep hard. Every pushing on chest day is hitting tricep. So arms are getting hit twice a week. On back day it's either included deads or power cleans. Legs are getting hit twice a week. On directly on leg day and once on back day. I could go on.
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AFTER
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"Empty"? No.. Liver also stores glycogen and produce a glycogen as needed via flyconeogenisis from amino aids.
point is your glycogen stores won't be materially different pre vs post workout, all else being equal