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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: light weight baby on January 28, 2017, 04:06:57 PM
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Case closed
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Great find.
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Jay has become cocky after his retirement.
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I disagree. He is very honest and humble. He admits that Dexter Jackson is greater than him; however, in most head to heads Dex lost to Jay. Regardless, I think his assessment of RC is spot on. Biggest and best conditioned bodybuilder ever. His aesthetics may have something to be desired. Maybe Dorian in 1993 could have stood toe to toe with him, but overall he is the standard. Personally, I think Jay Cutler 2009 could stand next to just about anyone except from the back. He was a beast that year.
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What the hell is wrong with Phil's chest? Horrible, just horrible. Looks like a torn right chest.
(https://s27.postimg.org/fujb28nqb/Phil_Narrow_Cheath.png)
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sorry no contest vs a prime ronnie
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What the hell is wrong with Phil's chest? Horrible, just horrible. Looks like a torn right chest.
(https://s27.postimg.org/fujb28nqb/Phil_Narrow_Cheath.png)
It isn't torn. It's just a very small (width wise) chest - so when he does that pose, the chest is that small that it configures itself differently, doing that pose.
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That 3D shit don't work against Ronnie. He's too dense and too big. Prime Ronnie crushes prime Heath overall.
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Yates 93 still wins on overall balance and conditioning, Both Ronnie and Heath structure wise are inferior to Haney and even Sergio.
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Yates 93 still wins on overall balance and conditioning, Both Ronnie and Heath structure wise are inferior to Haney and even Sergio.
Blah, blah, blah...Ronnie and Haney are better than Yates.
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Blah, blah, blah...Ronnie and Haney are better than Yates.
Peak Dorian shades peak Haney, but Haney is also the greatest Mr Olympia winner ever.
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Yates 93 still wins on overall balance and conditioning, Both Ronnie and Heath structure wise are inferior to Haney and even Sergio.
Peak Ronnie would've destroyed Sergio.
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Not even a contest.
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Peak Ronnie would've destroyed Sergio.
And if Sergio was using the same drugs?
He was mainly using test and winstrol, according to him his favourites.
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And if Sergio was using the same drugs?
He was mainly using test and winstrol, according to him his favourites.
you cant compare pre Dorian era to post Dorian I think because of all the changes in gear.
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Blah, blah, blah...Ronnie and Haney are better than Yates.
93 Yates is really good but overall, never understood the hype of Dorian. Everyone always goes off that u have to see him in person blah blah blah
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If creatine was available back in the day when Sergio competed...
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Here is Phil's opinion the matter
Someone please fix. Thx
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The only conclusion is that bodybuilding is accelerating backwards
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Peak Ronnie would've destroyed Sergio.
Hmmm, is based on if Sergio competed today, or if Ronnie competed during Sergio's time?
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Great! All bodybuilders are liars! I bet you'll try to tell me skinny-ass cyclists use steroids too!
Filt.
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It isn't torn. It's just a very small (width wise) chest - so when he does that pose, the chest is that small that it configures itself differently, doing that pose.
No, it's clearly torn. Zoom in. His right pec is drastically smaller than his left.
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Case closed
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lol the guy has no clue
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Hmmm, is based on if Sergio competed today, or if Ronnie competed during Sergio's time?
Either scenario, Ronnie wins.... based on Sergio weak rear double bicep pose. Also, Ronnie has more cuts & striations
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1971 Sergio vs 1992 Ronnie
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Ronnie coleman 2003 is the greatest combination of size and condition to ever grace a bodybuilding stage and that is what made ronnie the greatest of all time.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=435316.0;attach=479487;image)
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Ronnie coleman 2003 is the greatest combination of size and condition to ever grace a bodybuilding stage and that is what made ronnie the greatest of all time.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=435316.0;attach=479487;image)
Looked sooooooooooooo much better in earlier years, u can't be serious? 03 Ronnie looked like shit.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=230956.0;attach=271184;image)
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Looked sooooooooooooo much better in earlier years, u can't be serious? 03 Ronnie looked like shit.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=230956.0;attach=271184;image)
That Black fellar is owning those other two blacks fellars
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Either scenario, Ronnie wins.... based on Sergio weak rear double bicep pose. Also, Ronnie has more cuts & striations
I think if Sergio was competing during Ronnie's time, his body would reflect the standards of that time---along with his genetics. So, his back would be up to par, with a wasp waist, better conditioning (using a guru and better nutrition). They had the same work ethic in terms of lifting (both Sergio and Ronnie are proponents of half reps on the bench and also heavy weights).
A good match up would he if Bertil Fox was competing in Ronnie's era. How would he fair---would be bring his back up?
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I think if Sergio was competing during Ronnie's time, his body would reflect the standards of that time---along with his genetics. So, his back would be up to par, with a wasp waist, better conditioning (using a guru and better nutrition). They had the same work ethic in terms of lifting (both Sergio and Ronnie are proponents of half reps on the bench and also heavy weights).
A good match up would be if Bertil Fox was competing in Ronnie's era. How would he fair---would be bring his back up?
I agree on Sergio Parker.
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I agree on Sergio Parker.
Sergio Parker was a beast back in the day!
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Ronnie coleman 2003 is the greatest combination of size and condition to ever grace a bodybuilding stage and that is what made ronnie the greatest of all time.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=435316.0;attach=479487;image)
Ronnie 2000 is what you are thinking of. 03 is freaky but gut too big.
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lol the guy has no clue
Ya the guy who has seen the absolute best version of either guy is clueless. I'm sure a 4x Olympia winner would appreciate your input on the subject
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Different era's
84' Sergio vs 98' Ronnie
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Hard to judge. 03 had terrible lighting
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Different era's
84' Sergio vs 98' Ronnie
Ronnie had freakier biceps, Sergio had fuller lateral and long head of the triceps. But, he was injured in one of them (correct?) hence the one looking kinda shortened.
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Ronnie would leave Phil for dead NO doubts about it , It's not open for discussion. Anyone who says otherwise is a troll or a fucking moron.
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Ronnie would leave Phil for dead NO doubts about it , It's not open for discussion. Anyone who says otherwise is a troll or a fucking moron.
ND where do you think phil would place among 90's greats like flex, shawn, nasser, and Mr. Levrone?
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ND where do you think phil would place among 90's greats like flex, shawn, nasser, and Mr. Levrone?
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He'd beat Shawn , I doubt he would beat Flex or Kevin at their best
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Cutler sucked as a Mr. O and nobody has been ever as good as Ronnie except for maybe Arnold taking the different decades into consideration of course.
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He'd beat Shawn , I doubt he would beat Flex or Kevin at their best
what about nasser?
i have developed a new appreciation for nasser, by himself his physique is far from pretty but when compared against those guys from the 90's his size was very overwhelming
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what about nasser?
i have developed a new appreciation for nasser, by himself his physique is far from pretty but when compared against those guys from the 90's his size was very overwhelming
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He would have trouble with Phil from the back , Phil's back is great not as good as Yates & Ronnie , but his BDB is outstanding
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My main man Parker dropping knowledge in this thread when it comes to Oliva.
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Either scenario, Ronnie wins.... based on Sergio weak rear double bicep pose. Also, Ronnie has more cuts & striations
Sergio is all about the lats to waist ratio, while having the mass to hold his own with Schwarzenegger. Not too many bbers can do that.
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He'd beat Shawn , I doubt he would beat Flex or Kevin at their best
Shawn at his best is hard to beat, he did place 2nd twice to Dorian in a tough era
He would give Phil a hard time and I think he would have beaten Phil at least once through his 6 title runs
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Interesting comparisons
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Blah, blah, blah...Ronnie and Haney are better than Yates.
This.
Dorian was great from the back, but in general blocky and arms flexed or relax were pretty much same ,
I do believe Jay at his prime was way better than Dexter though
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Shawn at his best is hard to beat, he did place 2nd twice to Dorian in a tough era
He would give Phil a hard time and I think he would have beaten Phil at least once through his 6 title runs
Shawn, Flex, Kevin all have better stage presence than Phil. Shawn was classical, yet confident. Flex was cocky ( that episode at the 97 Arnold with Nasser) and used his shape when he was not in condition. And Kevin got the audience pumped. They had better showmanship than Phil does. And that counts for something.
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No one was saying Ronnie wasn't the most muscular human ever, but structure wise he's far from balanced, bodybuilding used to be a combination of structure symmetry overall shape, this is what separates eras, Ronnie had no calves huge quads, too big for his hamstrings, long huge arms a long chest and short abdomen, he overcame all these flaws with outrageous size and pumping truck loads of oil into his calves.
Yates only ever displayed his best once ever and it was 93 post that year, he lost his gut and balance. Heath would beat every version of Wheeler except for Ironman arnold 93, he to never looked that good ever again, Shawn ray was more consistent than anyone else from the era, just wasn't quite good enough.
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Ronnie had freakier biceps, Sergio had fuller lateral and long head of the triceps. But, he was injured in one of them (correct?) hence the one looking kinda shortened.
Tore his left triceps in an accident.
Also had quite bad arthritis in his elbows and knees, which apparently reduced range of motion and why he used half reps for bench. Squatting also became more difficult and that's one reason why his legs were smaller in the 80's. He later had to have several joint replacements.
He liked test and winstrol, which probably contributed to this as they would dry out his joints.
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Ronnie coleman 2003 is the greatest combination of size and condition to ever grace a bodybuilding stage and that is what made ronnie the greatest of all time.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=435316.0;attach=479487;image)
2000 is better. Waist was still relatively tight, especially compared to '03.
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2003 ronnie was an abomination
that was when i finally thought to myself for the first time the sport as i always loved it is now gone
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2003 ronnie was an abomination
that was when i finally thought to myself for the first time the sport as i always loved it is now gone
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fuck off bob paris twink lover
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fuck off bob paris twink lover
fuck off bloated blob lover
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2000 is better. Waist was still relatively tight, especially compared to '03.
2000 ronnie was awesome, underrated
03 absolutely sucked
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fuck off bloated blob lover
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why the fuck do you sign your posts with
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when you already have a signature saying
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and what is the need for it even when your username is right next to your post
you must have some sort of epic megalomania
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why the fuck do you sign your posts with
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when you already have a signature saying
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and what is the need for it even when your username is right next to your post
you must have some sort of epic megalomania
because i want to
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because i want to
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well obviously you stupid cock sucker
the question remains, why would a person want that?
complete loser with severe delusions of importance, that's also why you moan about "how ronnie destroyed the sport YOU loved"
you are nothing
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well obviously you stupid cock sucker
the question remains, why would a person want that?
complete loser with severe delusions of importance, that's also why you moan about "how ronnie destroyed the sport YOU loved"
you are nothing
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Jay has become cocky after his retirement.
Really? He just said that he considers Dex one of the top TWO bbers of all time and that he (Jay) isn't one of them.
That's a far cry from him saying previously that he was the greatest ever.
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And if Sergio was using the same drugs?
He was mainly using test and winstrol, according to him his favourites.
Oh brother, here we go.
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Oh brother, here we go.
There were some comparison pictures posted earlier.
I still think Sergio had better structure and balance, especially with his very narrow waist.
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Either scenario, Ronnie wins.... based on Sergio weak rear double bicep pose. Also, Ronnie has more cuts & striations
No a fair comparison.... that was 45 damn years ago !! Sergio was eating 3 times a day (not watching carbs) playing pool, domino, pocker, drinking beer and salsa dancing at night lol !!!!!!!
Ronnie would have had 13 inch calves, a beer gut and not a single striation under Sergio's drugs and food regimen .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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No a fair comparison.... that was 45 damn years ago !! Sergio was eating 3 times a day (not watching carbs) playing pool, domino, pocker, drinking beer and salsa dancing at night lol !!!!!!!
Ronnie would have had 13 inch calves, a beer gut and not a single striation under Sergio's drugs and food regimen .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
how would this version Sergio have done against haney
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how would this version Sergio have done against haney
Haney would crush Sergio.... because Sergio was soft. Haney got pretty damn ripped. But Colemen was leaner than both.
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Haney would DID crush Sergio.... because Sergio was soft. Haney got pretty damn ripped. But Colemen was leaner than both.
However Sergio by that time really wasn't Sergio
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However Sergio by that time really wasn't Sergio
OF COURSE SERGIO 80'S COMEBACK WAS EASY ,I'M TALKING THE BW PICS HERE,,I KNOW HANEY REAR DB POSE ARMS ASIDE WAS BETTER ,BUT CHEST /DELTS,WAIST WAS SIMILAR,,AND SERGIOS LEGS WERE FULLER
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When did Jay become so honest?
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When did Jay become so honest?
he has been for a few yrs already as far as i know
like that video where he makes fun of his own t shirt slogan
TO BE A LEGEND YOU HAVE TO TRAIN LIKE ONE
Then he says
TO BE A LEGEND YOU HAVE TO TAKE WHAT A LEGEND TAKES
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What the hell is wrong with Phil's chest? Horrible, just horrible. Looks like a torn right chest.
(https://s27.postimg.org/fujb28nqb/Phil_Narrow_Cheath.png)
Looks like a torn right and left pec and don't get me started on those abs (or lack there of). :-X
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Case closed
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All bodybuilders lie about their heights also, but as honest as Jay is, I don't think he would admit to that seeing he's also guilty of it.
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No a fair comparison.... that was 45 damn years ago !! Sergio was eating 3 times a day (not watching carbs) playing pool, domino, pocker, drinking beer and salsa dancing at night lol !!!!!!!
Ronnie would have had 13 inch calves, a beer gut and not a single striation under Sergio's drugs and food regimen .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I don't know if that's believable, like jay said all bbers lie....