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From the same people who first brought you your FREE credit score:
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Or you could just not pay the illegal and unconstitutional income tax in the first place? There is no physical law written anywhere that says you are required to pay, only that you are able to pay voluntarily if you choose to.
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Or you could just not pay the illegal and unconstitutional income tax in the first place? There is no physical law written anywhere that says you are required to pay, only that you are able to pay voluntarily if you choose to.
I'm dumb. Explain this.
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I'm dumb. Explain this.
the Wesley Snipes argument. he lost.
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the Wesley Snipes argument. he lost.
Yup
(http://www.backtaxeshelp.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/wesley-snipes-jail.jpg)
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I'm dumb. Explain this.
This is a very good documentary that explains it.
Or if you wish to read
http://givemeliberty.org/features/taxes/ad/WtpLitAdColor.pdf
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the Wesley Snipes argument. he lost.
Wesley had the case won though. He never expected the IRS to take the trial to Ocala County (rednecksville).
No one was able to point to the law that states that this man has to pay anyone any taxes for anything.
How the IRS gets away with this shit is surreal.
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Wesley had the case won though. He never expected the IRS to take the trial to Ocala County (rednecksville).
No one was able to point to the law that states that this man has to pay anyone any taxes for anything.
How the IRS gets away with this shit is surreal.
was an interesting argument. but I wouldn't advise going that route.
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Wesley had the case won though.
Hard to say he won when he ended up behind bars. It's a losing battle, a suicide mission. Just pay your darn taxes and stay out of prison.
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From the same people who first brought you your FREE credit score:
Do you work for Credit Karma
Just seems weird that you're posting an advertisement for them
I'm guessing you've never filed a tax return in the US but from your perspective as a non US citizen do you think people in the US would really want the government to file a tax return on their behalf.
As you know, this would require the government to know how much you paid in mortgage interest, property taxes, charitable contributions, unreimbursed employee expenses (if you're paid on a W2) etc... If you own rental property then the government would have to know not only interest and taxes, but fees for repairs, property management, insurance premiums, calculate depreciation, etc.. If you own receive income or have expenses from an estate or trust or ownership in an LLC then you have K-1's. Again, do you think these people would want to depend on a government employee to compile and report all of that correctly
Haven't even mentioned someone who files a Schedule C (you know, all those small business owners all over the country)
Is the government going to know all of their expenses? Do you really think small business owners are going to want the government to take that out of their hands (the business owner) and they will just trust the government to do that correctly?
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Do you work for Credit Karma
Just seems weird that you're posting an advertisement for them
I'm guessing you've never filed a tax return in the US but from your perspective as a non US citizen do you think people in the US would really want the government to file a tax return on their behalf.
As you know, this would require the government to know how much you paid in mortgage interest, property taxes, charitable contributions, unreimbursed employee expenses (if you're paid on a W2) etc... If you own rental property then the government would have to know not only interest and taxes, but fees for repairs, property management, insurance premiums, calculate depreciation, etc.. If you own receive income or have expenses from an estate or trust or ownership in an LLC then you have K-1's. Again, do you think these people would want to depend on a government employee to compile and report all of that correctly
Haven't even mentioned someone who files a Schedule C (you know, all those small business owners all over the country)
Is the government going to know all of their expenses? Do you really think small business owners are going to want the government to take that out of their hands (the business owner) and they will just trust the government to do that correctly?
No, I don't work for Credit Karma.
The video does not say the US government should file taxes on your behalf. They simply mention the UK as an example of a country where people don't pay to get their taxes filed.
I do know Credit Karma was the first to give you your free credit score. Before that, you had to pay to see your credit score. After Credit Karma made credit scores available for free, credit card companies started offering free credit scores too.
Then, Credit Karma made two out of three credit reports available for free on demand. Before, people had to wait a year to see their three credit reports, or pay the agencies to see it more often if they wanted to.
Now, it looks like Credit Karma will offer software to prepare and file your taxes for free. Free tax filing has been around for a while, but only for very simple tax returns. Most working, middle class people don't have a simple tax return.
In my book, these are all great things Credit Karma has done for people.
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No, I don't work for Credit Karma.
The video does not say the US government should file taxes on your behalf. They simply mention the UK as an example of how citizens to pay to get their taxes filed.
I do know Credit Karma was the first to give you your free credit score. Before that, you had to pay to see your credit score. After Credit Karma made credit scores available for free, credit card companies started offering free credit scores too.
Then, Credit Karma made two out of three credit reports available for free on demand. Before, people had to wait a year to see their three credit reports, or pay the agencies to see it more often if they wanted to.
Now, it looks like Credit Karma will offer software to prepare and file your taxes for free. Free tax filing has been around for a while, but only for very simple tax returns. Most working, middle class people don't have a simple tax return.
In my book, these are all great things Credit Karma has done for people.
You seem to know a lot about this Credit Karma company.
Are you sure you don't work for them?
Can you tell us how Credit Karma benefits by providing a "free" tax preparation service?
BTW - you know those "scores" they provide are not the actual credit scores but just their ball park estimate and pretty much worthless
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You seem to know a lot about this Credit Karma company.
Are you sure you don't work for them?
Can you tell us how Credit Karma benefits by providing a "free" tax preparation service?
BTW - you know those "scores" they provide are not the actual credit scores but just their ball park estimate and pretty much worthless
Yes, I am sure that I don't work for Credit Karma. Do you have to work for them to know about them? Strange that you'd think that.
I don't know all of the ways in which Credit Karma benefits by providing a "free" tax preparation service. One way they probably do benefit is by looking at your income and then displaying a lot of credit card offers and other ads tailored to your level of income, but that's just a guess.
Credit Karma will show you your free credit scores and your free credit reports from both TransUnion and Equifax. They offer free credit monitoring too. Credit card companies will show you only one credit score, and no credit report. I would not call that worthless.
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Yes, I am sure that I don't work for Credit Karma. Do you have to work for them to know about them? Strange that you'd think that.
I don't know all of the ways in which Credit Karma benefits by providing a "free" tax preparation service. One way they probably do benefit is by looking at your income and then displaying a lot of credit card offers and other ads tailored to your level of income, but that's just a guess.
Credit Karma will show you your free credit scores and your free credit reports from both TransUnion and Equifax. They offer free credit monitoring too. Credit card companies will show you only one credit score, and no credit report. I would not call that worthless.
you sound like a loyal customer and raving fan
how long have you used their service and how have you benefited
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you sound like a loyal customer and raving fan
how long have you used their service and how have you benefited
Not sure you can call someone who uses a free service a loyal customer.
Whether or not I have used their free services, or for how long is on a "need to know" basis.
Anyone who uses their free services would benefit. Do you really have to ask how?
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Not sure you can call someone who uses a free service a loyal customer.
Whether or not I have used their free services, or for how long is on a "need to know" basis.
Anyone who uses their free services would benefit. Do you really have to ask how?
Only schmucks (no offense) would believe they are getting something for free from this company.
Sharing your personal financial information is probably one of the most dangerous things you can do
You seem well informed on this service so I'm sure you aware of all the data breaches
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Only schmucks (no offense) would believe they are getting something for free from this company.
Sharing your personal financial information is probably one of the most dangerous things you can do
You seem well informed on this service so I'm sure you aware of all the data breaches
Free, in this case, means the user pays zero dollars for the service. They get their money from ads. No different than Intuit's Mint and other free budgeting services.
Anyone using TurboTax online, H&R Block, etc. is sharing financial information. Anyone using online banking is too.
Wait...Straw Man, do you prepare taxes for other people for a living? If that's on a "need to know" basis, I understand. :D
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Free, in this case, means the user pays zero dollars for the service. They get their money from ads. No different than Intuit's Mint and other free budgeting services.
Anyone using TurboTax online, H&R Block, etc. is sharing financial information. Anyone using online banking is too.
Wait...Straw Man, do you prepare taxes for other people for a living? If that's on a "need to know" basis, I understand. :D
hell no I don't prepare taxes.....including my own
I've had a CPA do my taxes since ~ 1992
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hell no I don't prepare taxes.....including my own
I've had a CPA do my taxes since ~ 1992
Well if I remember correctly, you've stated before that you own a business. So that makes sense.
I imagine the average, middle class employee can't afford a CPA to prepare and file his/her taxes every year.
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Well if I remember correctly, you've stated before that you own a business. So that makes sense.
I imagine the average, middle class employee can't afford a CPA to prepare and file his/her taxes every year.
I've said I'm self employed
how about you?
I imagine plenty of average middle class people like me use a CPA to prepare their taxes
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I've said I'm self employed
how about you?
I imagine plenty of average middle class people like me use a CPA to prepare their taxes
Good for you.
That's on a "need to know" basis.
Maybe. I don't know. I thought CPA fees for preparing itemized tax returns were expensive, but maybe they're not.
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Good for you.
That's on a "need to know" basis.
Maybe. I don't know. I thought CPA fees for preparing itemized tax returns were expensive, but maybe they're not.
expensive is relative to the complexity and they also provide support in case of an audit (so far has not been an issue for me)
what's the tax filing system like in your country
Does Credit Karma provide that service in your country and if so have you used it?
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expensive is relative to the complexity and they also provide support in case of an audit (so far has not been an issue for me)
what's the tax filing system like in your country
Does Credit Karma provide that service in your country and if so have you used it?
That's on a "need to know" basis.
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That's on a "need to know" basis.
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hmm, let me guess. You're unemployed and living off a socialist safety net provided by your government so filing a tax return is probably not an issue for you
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hmm, let me guess. You're unemployed and living off a socialist safety net provided by your government so filing a tax return is probably not an issue for you
You are awful at guessing.
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I too use a CPA.
They know all of the loop holes and do their best to make sure my tax burden is as low as possible. Sure it costs more, as there's a keystroke cost associated with it, but it's worth it for sure.
I highly recommend it.
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The information had from these "free" things, is very valuable. That's why all the "free" email and the "free" applications and everything else "free" came out of the woodwork as the internet developed.
They aren't doing it to be nice guys, necessarily.
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You are awful at guessing.
why the fascination with the minutia of day to day life in the US when you don't even live here
just wondering.
there must be some reason
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why the fascination with the minutia of day to day life in the US when you don't even live here
just wondering.
there must be some reason
Why not?
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I too use a CPA.
They know all of the loop holes and do their best to make sure my tax burden is as low as possible. Sure it costs more, as there's a keystroke cost associated with it, but it's worth it for sure.
I highly recommend it.
Ever tried TurboTax online?
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The information had from these "free" things, is very valuable. That's why all the "free" email and the "free" applications and everything else "free" came out of the woodwork as the internet developed.
They aren't doing it to be nice guys, necessarily.
Exactly!
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Ever tried TurboTax online?
I have years ago.
If you're doing basic things and general deductions. Even beyond the standatd 10-40. It's good, but if you want to get the best, you use a specialist.
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Why not?
Why?
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I have years ago.
If you're doing basic things and general deductions. Even beyond the standatd 10-40. It's good, but if you want to get the best, you use a specialist.
exactly
you get what you pay for
and these people who use "free" online tax preparation are really exchanging their personal information for a mediocre service
that may be totally fine for some people but it's not the best choice for everyone
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Why?
Why are you so fascinated by what fascinates me, and why so interested in what interests me?
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exactly
you get what you pay for
and these people who use "free" online tax preparation are really exchanging their personal information for a mediocre service
that may be totally fine for some people but it's not the best choice for everyone
Who said it was? It's available, and that's a good thing.
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Who said it was? It's available, and that's a good thing.
how would you know it's a good thing since you don't even file taxes in the US
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how would you know it's a good thing since you don't even file taxes in the US
How would you know whether or not I've filed taxes in the US?
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How would you know whether or not I've filed taxes in the US?
simple logic
you've already said you don't live here and this company only started offering this tax prep service in December of 2016
are you in the habit of advocating other services and products that you've never used?
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simple logic
you've already said you don't live here and this company only started offering this tax prep service in December of 2016
are you in the habit of advocating other services and products that you've never used?
When did I say I don't live in the US?
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When did I say I don't live in the US?
you said so a long time ago. If I recall it was in a post on the religious board
you also pretty much confirmed it on the recent thread about Obamacare
Now, back to the topic of this thread which you started
Why are you advocating a product which you've never used?
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you said so a long time ago. If I recall it was in a post on the religious board
you also pretty much confirmed it on the recent thread about Obamacare
Now, back to the topic of this thread which you started
Why are you advocating a product which you've never used?
Can you quote me on that?
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Can you quote me on that?
on what?
I'm going from memory on the religious board statement which was years ago
the Obamacare thread was last week and you can read it yourself
If I was guessing I'd say you live in South America, maybe Venezuela which maybe you find embarrassing for some reason
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on what?
I'm going from memory on the religious board statement which was years ago
the Obamacare thread was last week and you can read it yourself
If I was guessing I'd say you live in South America, maybe Venezuela which maybe you find embarrassing for some reason
Guessing, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe...LOL
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Guessing, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe...LOL
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=241246.0
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=241246.0
That's a long thread. I'm not reading all that. What exactly is your point?
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That's a long thread. What exactly is your point?
LOL are you channeling Donald Trump now
There are 8 posts in the entire thread
read all 8 and see if you can figure it out
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LOL are you channeling Donald Trump now
There are 8 posts in the entire thread
read all 8 and see if you can figure it out
I'm not reading all that. Where did I say I don't live in the US?
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I'm not reading all that. Where did I say I don't live in the US?
LOL at "all that"
it's your thread and there are only 8 total posts...4 from you and 4 from Hugo (who seems to think you live in Venezuela as well)
I'm not really sure why you're ashamed of where you live but I guess you have your reasons
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LOL at "all that"
it's your thread and there are only 8 total posts...4 from you and 4 from Hugo (who seems to think you live in Venezuela as well)
I'm not really sure why you're ashamed of where you live but I guess you have your reasons
And I'm not really sure whether I should be flattered or creeped out that you are spending this much time and energy on me. This is the second thread I start that you derail to discuss me.
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And I'm not really sure whether I should be flattered or creeped out that you are spending this much time and energy on me. This is the second thread I start that you derail to discuss me.
took almost no time at all
I told you I recalled it from your prior posts
why do you always dodge the question when I ask you why you care about things like healthcare and tax preparation in a country where you don't live
I couldn't give a rats ass about healthcare or tax preparation in Venezuela
This thread ( which you started) is especially odd
It's basically an advertisement for CreditKarma tax prep
I'm curious why you care and the only thing you can say is "why not"?
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took almost no time at all
I told you I recalled it from your prior posts
why do you always dodge the question when I ask you why you care about things like healthcare and tax preparation in a country where you don't live
I couldn't give a rats ass about healthcare or tax preparation in Venezuela
This thread ( which you started) is especially odd
It's basically an advertisement for CreditKarma tax prep
I'm curious why you care and the only thing you can say is "why not"?
When did I say I don't live in the US? If I said it in that thread you linked, then why aren't you able to quote me on it out of such thread? And even if I had said it on a thread from nine years ago, which I didn't, what does that have do with who I am or where I am today?
Credit Karma is free. What's the harm in letting people know it's out there? Why are you so butthurt about me posting about it?
You're starting to act like a creepy stalker.
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I think Grasping just found someone he is more obsessed with then Trump....
Odd fellow that guy.
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Strange Credit Karma Thread is Strange
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When did I say I don't live in the US? If I said it in that thread you linked, then why aren't you able to quote me on it out of such thread? And even if I had said it on a thread from nine years ago, which I didn't, what does that have do with who I am or where I am today?
Credit Karma is free. What's the harm in letting people know it's out there? Why are you so butthurt about me posting about it?
You're starting to act like a creepy stalker.
have you used Credit Karma Tax Prep Service?
pretty simple question and completely reasonable since you're the person who started this thread promoting this service
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have you used Credit Karma Tax Prep Service?
pretty simple question and completely reasonable since you're the person who started this thread promoting this service
Maybe I have. Maybe I haven't. The purpose of this thread wasn't to promote any service, but to discuss why Americans pay to get their taxes prepared and filed.
But you don't care about that. All you do is follow me around and ask me personal questions, in this and other threads.
Why so nosy? You creepy stalker :D
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Maybe I have. Maybe I haven't. The purpose of this thread wasn't to promote any service, but to discuss why Americans pay to get their taxes prepared and filed.
But you don't care about that. All you do is follow me around and ask me personal questions, in this and other threads.
Why so nosy? You creepy stalker :D
you've been given an explanation of why people pay to have their tax returns prepared
why are you promoting a service that you won't even admit to using?
is there some political angle to your post or is it just about promoting this service?
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you've been given an explanation of why people pay to have their tax returns prepared
Yeah, but only after I created this thread, not before. However, I was given an explanation of why SOME, not all, people have to pay to have their tax returns prepared.
Neither I nor the video I posted suggested the US government should prepare tax returns. Only you suggested that.
As you know, this would require the government to know how much you paid in mortgage interest, property taxes, charitable contributions, unreimbursed employee expenses (if you're paid on a W2) etc... If you own rental property then the government would have to know not only interest and taxes, but fees for repairs, property management, insurance premiums, calculate depreciation, etc.. If you own receive income or have expenses from an estate or trust or ownership in an LLC then you have K-1's. Again, do you think these people would want to depend on a government employee to compile and report all of that correctly
Haven't even mentioned someone who files a Schedule C (you know, all those small business owners all over the country)
Is the government going to know all of their expenses? Do you really think small business owners are going to want the government to take that out of their hands (the business owner) and they will just trust the government to do that correctly?
However, yours may not be such a bad idea. Doesn't the IRS already receive these forms from the various financial institutions for each tax payer, where applicable?
1098 -- For most homeowners, mortgage interest is tax-deductible, and this document will tell you how much you paid last year. Your lender is required to send you one of these forms if you paid at least $600 interest. Actually, your mortgage company probably won't send you an official IRS form, but a document of its own design that contains the same data. In addition to the mortgage interest, other information often found on this statement includes amounts paid toward points to get the loan and escrow disbursements for real estate taxes (also deductible) and property insurance (not deductible).
1098-E -- Are you paying back a student loan? The interest on your educational debt is reported on this form; your lender must send you one if the interest tally is at least $600. You may be able to deduct your student loan interest and possibly other loan-related amounts, such as origination fees and capitalized interest. To figure the deductible portion of the interest amount found here, use the work sheet in your Form 1040 or Form 1040A instructions.
1099-INT -- If you earned more than $10 in interest on a bank account or a certificate of deposit, you'll get one of these forms for each account. Don't dismiss this statement if you reinvested the interest. Tax law says you received the income even if you didn't actually have it in your hand, and reinvested earnings are still taxable income. 1099-INT statements also are issued to people who cashed in savings bonds.
1099-DIV -- Earnings from individual stocks and mutual funds are reported on Form 1099-DIV. This will show dividends and capital gains distributed over $10. As with reinvested interest, if you used the dividends or distributions to buy additional shares of the stock or mutual fund, you still have to pay taxes. However, the distributions and certain, qualified dividends are taxed at the lower capital gains rates.
1099-B -- If you sold stocks, bonds or mutual funds, you will receive a 1099-B from your broker or mutual fund company. This will tell you the number of shares sold, when they sold and the amount you got for the sale. You'll need this information, along with the date you bought the shares and the amount you paid for them, to figure your taxes. Since 2011, brokers have been providing information on the basis (the cost of an asset plus some adjustments) of sold stock.
1099-G -- Taxpayers who got a refund of state or local taxes last year will get this form. If you used those taxes as a deduction on your previous year's federal income tax return, you'll need to report the 1099-G amount on this year's return. You don't have to worry about reporting this refund as income, however, if you took the standard federal deduction instead of itemizing.
1099-K -- If you received payments via credit or debit cards or from third-party payment processors, such as PayPal, Amazon and eBay, you might receive a 1099-K reporting those amounts. There are triggers for amounts ($20,000) and number of transactions (200), so not every person who receives such payments will get a 1099-K. This income, however, is taxable and should be reported even without issuance of a 1099-K. The new statement is an attempt to get more information on such payments to the IRS.
1099-R -- If you received a pension or a distribution from an individual retirement account or retirement plan, the 1099-R provides the details of these transactions. The form is issued by your broker, pension plan manager or mutual fund company. You'll also get a 1099-R if you rolled over money in a retirement plan, usually a 401(k) to an IRA, or if you converted a traditional IRA to a Roth IRA. A rollover usually is not a taxable event, but a pension payout may be.
1099-MISC -- Self-employed individuals who earned $600 or more should get a 1099-MISC from each company with which they did business. You should get a separate 1099-MISC for each independent job you had during the previous tax year.
http://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/your-tax-documents-are-in-the-mail-1.aspx
Sure, changes will have to be made to the system to cover all the gaps. But again, yours maybe not be such a bad idea.