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Title: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Stormcloud on February 16, 2017, 08:15:57 PM


Anyone know details as to why Blackstone Labs was supposedly raided by the FDA today?
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: SF1900 on February 16, 2017, 08:17:01 PM
Lets wait for Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HHP, CEO, to confirm this.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Pete Nice on February 16, 2017, 08:45:30 PM
Supposedly additional, never before seen pics of PJ Braun in a thong were confiscated.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Elvishk on February 16, 2017, 09:01:06 PM
Supposedly additional, never before seen pics of PJ Braun in a thong were confiscated.

Aaron Clark is still fine so black stone is fine too!
Btw Pj never wear thongs
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on February 17, 2017, 06:53:26 AM
Yes, Blackstone Labs was raided yesterday.   Long time coming.   It was due to the sales of DMAA and some prohormones.  Needless to say that Blackstone Labs is finished
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: deadz on February 17, 2017, 07:53:25 AM
youre a fat fuck aaron
Your company is a train wreck
Please ask pj why he married a disgusting wrinkled tranny?
;D
LOL @BSL, pure garbage from the beginning. Now Aaron is trying again to fool people with more garbage, Redcon, LOL.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: SF1900 on February 17, 2017, 08:10:28 AM
Yes, Blackstone Labs was raided yesterday.   Long time coming.   It was due to the sales of DMAA and some prohormones.  Needless to say that Blackstone Labs is finished

Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HHP, CEO, where did you hear this from?
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Nether Animal on February 17, 2017, 08:11:33 AM
I tried dust 2 it was like any other pwo.. Nothing illegal in it
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Nails on February 17, 2017, 08:12:46 AM
Yes, Blackstone Labs was raided yesterday.   Long time coming.   It was due to the sales of DMAA and some prohormones.  Needless to say that Blackstone Labs is finished


Does that mean the banks will come to seize the Ferrari , house, and Wife soon?
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: deadz on February 17, 2017, 08:18:21 AM

Does that mean the banks will come to seize the Ferrari , house, and Wife soon?
Means Peewee will go back to dealing percs and roids.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on February 17, 2017, 08:25:05 AM

Does that mean the banks will come to seize the Ferrari , house, and Wife soon?



Once the Feds step in and take action they will drain the coffers.  PJ will be fine as Hi Tech Pharmaceutical will likely buy him out and that will be the end of it. 
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: mass243 on February 17, 2017, 09:30:47 AM

Hope this doesn't affect Jason Genova's sponsorship.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on February 17, 2017, 09:33:29 AM
I tried dust 2 it was like any other pwo.. Nothing illegal in it


DMAA is still technically illegal but what did PJ in is that when he was sent a warning letter in 2015 to remove 1,3-Dimethylbutylamine from Angel Dust, he rubbed it in their faces by replacing it with DMAA.  

Aaron got the message and headed for the hill while PJ kept "tickling the Demon Core".....and this time the flathead screwdriver slipped out and the damn thing went supercritical.   The Feds will now take everything from PJ Braun's personal assets that he ever owned and a lot of it will likely be under civil forfeiture under the pretense of running a criminal enterprise.  

When you get raided, its pretty much a swan song
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Nails on February 17, 2017, 09:33:52 AM
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Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Taffin on February 17, 2017, 09:56:28 AM

It had to happen... their PWO was clearly starting to have some side-effects.... (repost)
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: ilalin on February 17, 2017, 10:07:39 AM
lol
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Kwon on February 17, 2017, 10:08:45 AM
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Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on February 17, 2017, 10:09:00 AM
Almost forgot... ;D


Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Nails on February 17, 2017, 10:10:33 AM

Be right back, about to blow my load


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Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Kwon on February 17, 2017, 10:10:44 AM
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Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Hack Benchers on February 17, 2017, 10:27:12 AM
I keep wondering Why o Why is this BlackBONER Labs relevant and why should I give a fuck?
The only thing that keeps me clicking on these threads is to read the always  brutal "Gene Smackdown" replies LOL.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: ilalin on February 17, 2017, 10:53:30 AM
i luv kwon
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: deadz on February 17, 2017, 01:02:42 PM
Unable to add products to cart on the BSL website! :o
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Hack Benchers on February 17, 2017, 01:22:05 PM
It had to happen... their PWO was clearly starting to have some side-effects.... (repost)

MS Paint for the win!
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Taffin on February 17, 2017, 03:31:45 PM
MS Paint for the win!

LOL - have another...
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Dave D on February 17, 2017, 03:34:47 PM
I wonder if Flex Wheeler is willing to come over and lead his expertise to help this company?
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: rocco-x on February 17, 2017, 03:50:55 PM
Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HHP, CEO, where did you hear this from?
from his briefings at the Pentagon, cia offices, kgb and mossad.
   
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: The Scott on February 17, 2017, 04:42:23 PM
It had to happen... their PWO was clearly starting to have some side-effects.... (repost)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=626319.0;attach=712932;image)

They look like two  dwarf extras from Bored of the Rings.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: ltp102 on February 17, 2017, 04:59:51 PM
How is usplabs still in business? Their website is still up and running and they are still shipping products. According to the criminal indictment, their assets were seized.


http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2016/08/12/dallas-drug-company-charged-selling-unsafe-supplements-accused-using-irs-hide-money

https://www.justice.gov/opa/file/793706/download

Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on February 17, 2017, 05:01:26 PM
Unable to add products to cart on the BSL website! :o
hahahahaha
Is it possible to add intra md to my cart? Hahahaha
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: TheShape. on February 17, 2017, 05:29:02 PM
Yes, Blackstone Labs was raided yesterday.   Long time coming.   It was due to the sales of DMAA and some prohormones.  Needless to say that Blackstone Labs is finished
Top kek
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Taffin on February 17, 2017, 05:57:39 PM

Doesn't appear to be under arrest..?

Video statement from an hour ago here - http://www.instagram.com/p/BQoi5vjFMlI/?taken-by=pjbraunfitness (http://www.instagram.com/p/BQoi5vjFMlI/?taken-by=pjbraunfitness)

Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Elvishk on February 17, 2017, 06:22:44 PM
I'm not sure what happen now but I hear that AC will leave black stone soon!
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Elvishk on February 17, 2017, 07:52:48 PM
Anyway PJ can do g4p afterward....
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: tommywishbone on February 17, 2017, 08:08:17 PM
Hahaha!
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: polychronopolous on February 18, 2017, 03:35:19 AM
These types of endeavors never seem to end well, do they?
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Taffin on February 18, 2017, 04:05:51 AM
(http://)
These types of endeavors never seem to end well, do they?

I dunno man..... our very own Natural Wonder seems pretty happy with the outcome, so there's at least one guy who feels like a winner in this scenario.....  ;D
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: doggler on February 18, 2017, 06:59:21 AM
They read Vince's posts on getbig and decided to bust that place.

Vince was dry snitching.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: littleguns on February 19, 2017, 01:58:33 PM
How is usplabs still in business? Their website is still up and running and they are still shipping products. According to the criminal indictment, their assets were seized.


http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2016/08/12/dallas-drug-company-charged-selling-unsafe-supplements-accused-using-irs-hide-money

https://www.justice.gov/opa/file/793706/download



They are owned by a bigger company with larger pockets.

And to this date, DMAA is not illegal which is why Hi Tech is soo forward with their marketing of DMAA products.....I am sure the FDA has been building ongoing files dating back to Sarms. I am sure Aaron is laughing all the way to the bank but he will be brought in to this somehow or another...
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Elvishk on February 19, 2017, 05:14:36 PM
too much rumors here...  Aaron clark still upload photo to instagram and FDA is still running the business.  I heard that it was a general onsite compliance work but many peoples said it was a search warrant operation, why? because they envy aaron, envy pj, envy people who succeed in bodybuilding and the career......
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on February 19, 2017, 05:16:22 PM
too much rumors here...  Aaron clark still upload photo to instagram and FDA is still running the business.  I heard that it was a general onsite compliance work but many peoples said it was a search warrant operation, why? because they envy aaron, envy pj, envy people who succeed in bodybuilding and the career......
your company is on the way out you fat fuck-start looking for a new job cock sucker
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Elvishk on February 19, 2017, 06:12:11 PM
your company is on the way out you fat fuck-start looking for a new job cock sucker

i know many pro bodybuilders go g4p, no shame!  jimmyz, musclehunks connected to Aaron already, so u don't need to care this.  if aaron goes, he must be famous because he has a great body!
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on February 19, 2017, 10:29:33 PM
They are owned by a bigger company with larger pockets.

And to this date, DMAA is not illegal which is why Hi Tech is soo forward with their marketing of DMAA products.....I am sure the FDA has been building ongoing files dating back to Sarms. I am sure Aaron is laughing all the way to the bank but he will be brought in to this somehow or another...


Cigarettes and alcohol are also not illegal.  DMAA is very dangerous not just because its a relative of amphetamines but because its actually very addictive.  That's why it sells so well.  People take the stuff and soon find that they can't live without the high.  Angel Dust Extreme from Blackstone Labs is even worse because there is also a healthy dose of noopept in it making it even more addictive all in a delicious Sour Gummy Bear flavor.  


Anyone who sells DMAA cares more about profits than people....but to add a nootropic to an already addictive product is just wrong on all levels
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 19, 2017, 11:49:04 PM

Cigarettes and alcohol are also not illegal.  DMAA is very dangerous not just because its a relative of amphetamines but because its actually very addictive.  That's why it sells so well.  People take the stuff and soon find that they can't live without the high.  Angel Dust Extreme from Blackstone Labs is even worse because there is also a healthy dose of noopept in it making it even more addictive all in a delicious Sour Gummy Bear flavor.  


Anyone who sells DMAA cares more about profits than people....but to add a nootropic to an already addictive product is just wrong on all levels

It's not very addictive at all. It's pure shit though, there is no high. Maybe a little the first and second time you take it, after that it doesn't feel very good at all. Never heard or read about anyone jonesing for dmaa.

Only a fool will use that shit if he has access to ephedrine.
DMAA is basically not researched at all so we don't know if it fucks up your brain in the long term. Better to stay away... that said, I used quite a bit of it and it's just not very good. Use ephedrine if you need a safe and better stimulant.

And what the fuck are you saying wrt nootropics. Noots do not make dmaa more addictive.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: heenok on February 20, 2017, 04:09:32 AM

Cigarettes and alcohol are also not illegal.  DMAA is very dangerous not just because its a relative of amphetamines but because its actually very addictive.  That's why it sells so well.  People take the stuff and soon find that they can't live without the high.  Angel Dust Extreme from Blackstone Labs is even worse because there is also a healthy dose of noopept in it making it even more addictive all in a delicious Sour Gummy Bear flavor.  


Anyone who sells DMAA cares more about profits than people....but to add a nootropic to an already addictive product is just wrong on all levels

Its not really addictive especially since the "high" you get maybe last a week top, tolerance build very very fast so you end up using more and you still cannot get the effect you had at the first uses.
Its more about cardiac risks and psychiatric issues.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: insider on February 20, 2017, 04:17:06 AM
Braun & Singerman are the two shadiest characters in the industry, only difference is Braun is stupid
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on February 20, 2017, 04:42:41 AM
Braun & Singerman are the two shadiest characters in the industry, only difference is Braun is stupid
he is the stupidest man in the entire supps industry-name me one person dumber, stupider, and more in outer space than him-You can't
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Kwon on February 20, 2017, 05:53:33 AM
he is the stupidest man in the entire supps industry-name me one person dumber, stupider, and more in outer space than him-You can't

What did PJ do that was stupid?
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Tapeworm on February 20, 2017, 06:05:43 AM
What did PJ do that was stupid?

Treated Natural Wonder pretty rough.  On here, no less.  Gene is loved by all and PJ wouldn't give him a fair shake when it came to things that were supposed to taste like pumpkin but didn't.  At all.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on February 20, 2017, 06:40:44 AM
It's not very addictive at all. It's pure shit though, there is no high. Maybe a little the first and second time you take it, after that it doesn't feel very good at all. Never heard or read about anyone jonesing for dmaa.

Only a fool will use that shit if he has access to ephedrine.
DMAA is basically not researched at all so we don't know if it fucks up your brain in the long term. Better to stay away... that said, I used quite a bit of it and it's just not very good. Use ephedrine if you need a safe and better stimulant.

And what the fuck are you saying wrt nootropics. Noots do not make dmaa more addictive.


Nootropics can cause a psychological dependence because it does affect the brain function but DMAA can be addictive.  It may not be for everyone but there are lots of people out there that are using it  4-5 times a day.....well beyond its intended use.  Its not heroin but the formulation in Angel Dust Extreme was obviously geared towards it. 
 
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: CalvinH on February 20, 2017, 07:44:40 AM
Treated Natural Wonder pretty rough.  On here, no less.  Gene is loved by all and PJ wouldn't give him a fair shake when it came to things that were supposed to taste like pumpkin but didn't.  At all.


Nat has a big fan base here on the East Coast.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: ESFitness on February 20, 2017, 10:08:20 AM

Nootropics can cause a psychological dependence because it does affect the brain function but DMAA can be addictive.  It may not be for everyone but there are lots of people out there that are using it  4-5 times a day.....well beyond its intended use.  Its not heroin but the formulation in Angel Dust Extreme was obviously geared towards it. 
 

angel dust is geared towards heroin? They could not be further apart.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Victor Venice Beach on February 20, 2017, 10:40:57 AM
Treated Natural Wonder pretty rough.  On here, no less.  Gene is loved by all and PJ wouldn't give him a fair shake when it came to things that were supposed to taste like pumpkin but didn't.  At all.

Lesson:  Cross Gene and be DOOMED
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Yanin on February 20, 2017, 02:32:34 PM
So now would be a good time to sell the spy pics of the 1 nighter with the wife?
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Simple Simon on February 20, 2017, 02:33:31 PM
angel dust is geared towards heroin? They could not be further apart.

pablo esfitnobar to the rescue..
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on February 20, 2017, 03:25:32 PM
angel dust is geared towards heroin? They could not be further apart.


Only in principle of getting people hooked on it to buy more
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Hypertrophy on February 20, 2017, 04:27:22 PM
I love all these amateur biochemists on here who talk as if they actually have actual research experience...
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: ESFitness on February 20, 2017, 04:33:58 PM

Only in principle of getting people hooked on it to buy more

Stimulants like 1,3 (& white & clear) dont cause anywhere near the cravings opiates do ( or alcohol, or for some ppl benzos). Stims are a mental thing.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: TheGrinch on February 20, 2017, 04:41:17 PM
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on February 20, 2017, 04:47:29 PM

Nootropics can cause a psychological dependence because it does affect the brain function but DMAA can be addictive.  It may not be for everyone but there are lots of people out there that are using it  4-5 times a day.....well beyond its intended use.  Its not heroin but the formulation in Angel Dust Extreme was obviously geared towards it. 
 

they offer a product called angel dust extreme? LOL ! WTF  ??? Isnt that asking for trouble

when i hear i think of 2 things

1. the rock band - faith no more
2. the guy who cut his face off while on the durg and fed it to his dog

Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Elvishk on February 20, 2017, 06:39:05 PM
The video has to much editing, so can't fully trust!  anyway pj will get trouble, but aaron is still training hard at gym!
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: Coffeed on February 20, 2017, 11:48:22 PM
they offer a product called angel dust extreme? LOL ! WTF  ??? Isnt that asking for trouble

when i hear i think of 2 things

1. the rock band - faith no more
2. the guy who cut his face off while on the durg and fed it to his dog


It's the kind of name cops and politicians love to bring down! Great publicity to take down a company selling "Angel Dust Extreme". Would any parent want that sold over the counter, regardless of what's in it?
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: heenok on February 21, 2017, 01:51:28 AM
he is the stupidest man in the entire supps industry-name me one person dumber, stupider, and more in outer space than him-You can't

Did he fuck your wife or something ? He might well be a scumbag but at the end of the day hes a millionaire while you probably are broke as a joke, so he isnt that dumb and certainly smarter than you are.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on February 21, 2017, 02:27:53 AM
Did he fuck your wife or something ? He might well be a scumbag but at the end of the day hes a millionaire while you probably are broke as a joke, so he isnt that dumb and certainly smarter than you are.
my life is quite happy thank u very much-and I didn't have to resort to peddling drugs and backstabbing friends and participating in g4p pics-don't speak to me again cock sucker
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: insider on February 21, 2017, 04:16:50 AM
he is the stupidest man in the entire supps industry-name me one person dumber, stupider, and more in outer space than him-You can't

Can't name anyone dumber, his business decisions are terrible, his marketing terrible, just not smart. He is a meathead
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on February 21, 2017, 04:38:49 AM
Can't name anyone dumber, his business decisions are terrible, his marketing terrible, just not smart. He is a meathead
but heenok says he's the greatest thing since sliced bread?
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: rocco-x on February 21, 2017, 05:39:29 AM
Did he fuck your wife or something ? He might well be a scumbag but at the end of the day hes a millionaire while you probably are broke as a joke, so he isnt that dumb and certainly smarter than you are.
hi PJ...!
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: TheShape. on February 21, 2017, 03:56:40 PM
he is the stupidest man in the entire supps industry-name me one person dumber, stupider, and more in outer space than him-You can't
This is most definitely President Trumps getbig shitposting account.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: oldschoolfan on February 21, 2017, 04:53:24 PM
Did he fuck your wife or something ? He might well be a scumbag but at the end of the day hes a millionaire while you probably are broke as a joke, so he isnt that dumb and certainly smarter than you are.


natural wonder is an ok guy , hell his supplement, recomedations are great, love m1 by tlm research.  that shit is strong

Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on February 21, 2017, 05:31:07 PM

natural wonder is an ok guy , hell his supplement, recomedations are great, love m1 by tlm research.  that shit is strong


stronger than dust extreme-hell almost everything is stronger than that worthless shit
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: oldschoolfan on February 21, 2017, 05:48:55 PM
stronger than dust extreme-hell almost everything is stronger than that worthless shit

hey natural wouldnt that be funny if the fda busted black stone for selling shitty supplements, i would laugh my ass off if they stormed in there and were like your shit is over prices and and didnt give us a buzz.  and pj is standing there in his thong. posing for his gay ass you tube videos.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: polychronopolous on February 21, 2017, 05:55:04 PM
hey natural wouldnt that be funny if the fda busted black stone for selling shitty supplements, i would laugh my ass off if they stormed in there and were like your shit is over prices and and didnt give us a buzz.  and pj is standing there in his thong. posing for his gay ass you tube videos.

Sometimes the difference between The Forbes 500 or leaving the premises in handcuffs is whether or not gene gets his free sample.
Title: Re: Blackstone Labs raided by the FDA today?
Post by: TuHolmes on February 21, 2017, 05:55:54 PM
Sometimes the difference between The Forbes 500 or leaving the premises in handcuffs is whether or not gene gets his free sample.

This may have more truth than people care to admit.