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Trump accuses Obama administration of wiretapping Trump Tower phones
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/04/trump-accuses-obama-administration-wiretapping-trump-tower-phones.html
Obama, Clinton and Soros
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Counter punch of the century!
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Should be quite serious.
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Should be quite serious.
Keyword: "Should"
But just add it to the list:
- Wiretapped AP Journalists/and their families
- Surveillance on Merkel
- Got CIA to meddle in French Elections
- Paid Operatives to try to take down Netanyahu
- Weaponize'd IRS targeted conservatives without consequence
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Trump accuses Obama administration of wiretapping Trump Tower phones
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/04/trump-accuses-obama-administration-wiretapping-trump-tower-phones.html
Obama, Clinton and Soros
LOL - did you even read this article before you posted
I like how you just added Clinton and Soros like some kind of retarded right wing tourettes-like tics
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LOL - did you even read this article before you posted
I like how you just added Clinton and Soros like some kind of retarded right wing tourettes-like tics
Well...that's because you're an idiot minion that don't know right from wrong anyway.
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Sooooo, they even wiretapped but still found no Russian link? Obama knew Hillary was going to lose in October. This is Nixonian at best.
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Well...that's because you're an idiot minion that don't know right from wrong anyway.
you didn't read the article.....did you?
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you didn't read the article.....did you?
Yes...plus three similar articles. Did you read it? No matter, you wouldn't believe it anyway
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Another bait and switch...and you keep falling for it.
CNN
California Rep. Adam Schiff, the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, which is also probing the scope of Russia's influence on the US election, said in a statement Saturday afternoon in reference to one of Trump's tweets: "If there is something bad or sick going on, it is the willingness of the nation's chief executive to make the most outlandish and destructive claims without providing a scintilla of evidence to support them.
"No matter how much we hope and pray that this President will grow into one who respects and understands the Constitution, separation of powers, role of a free press, responsibilities as the leader of the free world, or demonstrates even the most basic regard for the truth, we must now accept that President Trump will never become that man," Schiff said.
You guys cannot be this gullible.
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Another bait and switch...and you keep falling for it.
CNN
California Rep. Adam Schiff, the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, which is also probing the scope of Russia's influence on the US election, said in a statement Saturday afternoon in reference to one of Trump's tweets: "If there is something bad or sick going on, it is the willingness of the nation's chief executive to make the most outlandish and destructive claims without providing a scintilla of evidence to support them.
"No matter how much we hope and pray that this President will grow into one who respects and understands the Constitution, separation of powers, role of a free press, responsibilities as the leader of the free world, or demonstrates even the most basic regard for the truth, we must now accept that President Trump will never become that man," Schiff said.
You guys cannot be this gullible.
No one gives a shit what Democrat pansy Adam Schiff thinks.
He's a fucking liberal representing the 28th district of Hollywood deviants.
Fuck him and the snowflakes he represents
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Obama expanded the sharing of info between nsaand other agencies right before he left. Why? Pretty obvious.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/837987684660412416
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Sessions meeting with Trump tonight in Florida. :o
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Sessions meeting with Trump tonight in Florida. :o
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Funny how this passed under radar...
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Funny how this passed under radar...
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You forgot the word "Renewal" as in OBAMA SIGNS RENEWAL OF WARRANTLESS WIRETAP LAW
Take a look at the last paragraph.
WASHINGTON (AP) — Barack Obama has signed into law a five-year extension of the U.S. government’s authority to monitor the overseas activity of suspected foreign spies and terrorists.
The warrantless intercept program would have expired at the end of 2012 without the president’s approval. The renewal bill won final passage in the Senate on Friday.
Known as the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the law allows the government to monitor overseas phone calls and emails without obtaining a court order for each intercept.
The law does not apply to Americans. When Americans are targeted for surveillance, the government must get a warrant from a special 11-judge court of U.S. district judges appointed by the Supreme Court.
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You forgot the word "Renewal" as in OBAMA SIGNS RENEWAL OF WARRANTLESS WIRETAP LAW
Take a look at the last paragraph.
WASHINGTON (AP) — Barack Obama has signed into law a five-year extension of the U.S. government’s authority to monitor the overseas activity of suspected foreign spies and terrorists.
The warrantless intercept program would have expired at the end of 2012 without the president’s approval. The renewal bill won final passage in the Senate on Friday.
Known as the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the law allows the government to monitor overseas phone calls and emails without obtaining a court order for each intercept.
The law does not apply to Americans. When Americans are targeted for surveillance, the government must get a warrant from a special 11-judge court of U.S. district judges appointed by the Supreme Court.
WTF I love being the world police now!
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Yamcha you're learning well from Trump. When you don't like the answer deflect, deflect, deflect.
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Yamcha you're learning well from Trump. When you don't like the answer deflect, deflect, deflect.
What would you like to discuss? That little excerpt you posted about that article screenshot... "When Americans are targeted for surveillance, the government must get a warrant from a special 11-judge court of U.S. district judges appointed by the Supreme Court."
You know who that special 11-judge court is? The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA)
October: FISA request. The Obama administration submits a new, narrow request to the FISA court, now focused on a computer server in Trump Tower suspected of links to Russian banks. No evidence is found — but the wiretaps continue, ostensibly for national security reasons, Andrew McCarthy at National Review later notes. The Obama administration is now monitoring an opposing presidential campaign using the high-tech surveillance powers of the federal intelligence services.
January: Obama expands NSA sharing. As Michael Walsh later notes, and as the New York Times reports, the outgoing Obama administration “expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections.” The new powers, and reduced protections, could make it easier for intelligence on private citizens to be circulated improperly or leaked.
January: Times report. The New York Times reports, on the eve of Inauguration Day, that several agencies — the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the National Security Agency (NSA) and the Treasury Department are monitoring several associates of the Trump campaign suspected of Russian ties. Other news outlets also report the exisentence of “a multiagency working group to coordinate investigations across the government,” though it is unclear how they found out, since the investigations would have been secret and involved classified information.
February: Times claims extensive Russian contacts. The New York Times cites “four current and former American officials” in reporting that the Trump campaign had “repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials. The Trump campaign denies the claims — and the Times admits that there is “no evidence” of coordination between the campaign and the Russians. The White House and some congressional Republicans begin to raise questions about illegal intelligence leaks.
March: the Washington Post targets Jeff Sessions. The Washington Post reports that Attorney General Jeff Sessions had contact twice with the Russian ambassador during the campaign — once at a Heritage Foundation event and once at a meeting in Sessions’s Senate office. The Post suggests that the two meetings contradict Sessions’s testimony at his confirmation hearings that he had no contacts with the Russians, though in context (not presented by the Post) it was clear he meant in his capacity as a campaign surrogate, and that he was responding to claims in the “dossier” of ongoing contacts. The New York Times, in covering the story, adds that the Obama White House “rushed to preserve” intelligence related to alleged Russian links with the Trump campaign. By “preserve” it really means “disseminate”: officials spread evidence throughout other government agencies “to leave a clear trail of intelligence for government investigators” and perhaps the media as well.
In summary: the Obama administration sought, and eventually obtained, authorization to eavesdrop on the Trump campaign; continued monitoring the Trump team even when no evidence of wrongdoing was found; then relaxed the NSA rules to allow evidence to be shared widely within the government, virtually ensuring that the information, including the conversations of private citizens, would be leaked to the media.
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lol
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...and you post Mark Levin's Breitbart piece.
In a separate Washington Post analysis piece about the controversy, Chris Cillizza wrote:
The problem here, of course, is that what Levin — and Breitbart — use as evidence for these claims are a series of seemingly unconnected events — from FISA court requests to Trump joking about the Russia email hack, to the release of Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails in the fall. The proof that all — or any — of these events are tied together by actual facts as opposed to supposition is not offered.
The idea that Obama’s administration authorized — and was able to get approval for — the wiretapping of the opposition party’s candidate for president is, frankly, far-fetched. And, if someone is making that claim — as Trump is now doing — the burden of proof is on them. If you are going to say there is a grand conspiracy that only you and a handful of others see, you need to offer a step-by-step explanation to the broader public to show why you’re right.
It seems unlikely — given Trump’s past pattern of making baseless claims without proof and then simply insisting he is right and no evidence is needed to prove the point — that any meaningful effort will be made by the Trump administration to connect the dots on this alleged wiretapping conspiracy.
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Here ya go:
Deplorable Pamski‏
@T64Pamela
#SallyYates sold her soul for her ideology. I hope she thinks it was worth it after she is prosecuted. #wiretapping
Obama's team tried to get a warrant from a regular, Article III federal court on Trump, and was told no by someone along the way (maybe the FBI), as evidence was that weak or non-existent; second, Obama's team then tried to circumvent the federal judiciary's independent role by trying to mislabel the issue one of "foreign agents," and tried to obtain a warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act "courts", and were again turned down, when the court saw Trump named (an extremely rare act of FISA court refusal of the government, suggesting the evidence was truly non-existent against Trump); and so, third, Obama circumvented both the regular command of the FBI and the regularly appointed federal courts, by placing the entire case as a FISA case (and apparently under Sally Yates at DOJ) as a "foreign" case, and then omitted Trump's name from a surveillance warrant granted, which Obama then misused to spy on Trump and many connected to Trump. Which parts of these stories are true is not yet fully known, but if any part of them then Obama could face serious trouble.
https://twitter.com/T64Pamela/status/838205364361310208
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You forgot the word "Renewal" as in OBAMA SIGNS RENEWAL OF WARRANTLESS WIRETAP LAW
Though we can't forget W voted for Hillary.
Take a look at the last paragraph.
WASHINGTON (AP) — Barack Obama has signed into law a five-year extension of the U.S. government’s authority to monitor the overseas activity of suspected foreign spies and terrorists.
The warrantless intercept program would have expired at the end of 2012 without the president’s approval. The renewal bill won final passage in the Senate on Friday.
Known as the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the law allows the government to monitor overseas phone calls and emails without obtaining a court order for each intercept.
The law does not apply to Americans. When Americans are targeted for surveillance, the government must get a warrant from a special 11-judge court of U.S. district judges appointed by the Supreme Court.
But do they become targeted through the use of analyzing all grabbed data? If so, wouldn't that be the same? Isn't that what Homeland Security is up to these days: operating in busts on Americans for running escort services and for steroid sales and stuff like that?
IDK. Seriously, just asking. Interesting subject.
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...and you post Mark Levin's Breitbart piece.
In a separate Washington Post analysis piece about the controversy, Chris Cillizza wrote:
The idea that Obama’s administration authorized — and was able to get approval for — the wiretapping of the opposition party’s candidate for president is, frankly, far-fetched. And, if someone is making that claim — as Trump is now doing — the burden of proof is on them. If you are going to say there is a grand conspiracy that only you and a handful of others see, you need to offer a step-by-step explanation to the broader public to show why you’re right.
So is this the left's argument??? Trying twist words...
The FISA court, which approves nearly every request, technically has to order or approve the relevant sort of wiretap in this case.
I can see it now:
Politifacts: It wasn't actually Obama that did the wiretapping, it was his administration. Also it wasn't to spy on Trump but to protect the USA.
Rating: Pants on fire.
EDIT: It isn't out of the realm of possibility that this occurred; see example:
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The White House has asked the US Congress to investigate alleged abuse of executive power by the Obama administration as part of the investigation into alleged Russian interference in the presidential election.
The White House request released on Sunday was directed to “congressional intelligence committees” and required them to “exercise their oversight authority to determine whether executive branch investigative powers were abused in 2016.”
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The White House has asked the US Congress to investigate alleged abuse of executive power by the Obama administration as part of the investigation into alleged Russian interference in the presidential election.
The White House request released on Sunday was directed to “congressional intelligence committees” and required them to “exercise their oversight authority to determine whether executive branch investigative powers were abused in 2016.”
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Good/finally. Lets see if the republicans develop a backbone and actually follow through on this. There is a ton more "evidence" for this then the fake Russia stuff, but as usual fake republicans/conservatives will probably do nothing because they are aligned with the other side.
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Good/finally. Lets see if the republicans develop a backbone and actually follow through on this. There is a ton more "evidence" for this then the fake Russia stuff, but as usual fake republicans/conservatives will probably do nothing because they are aligned with the other side.
Yes, the president has the power, via executive order, to see all information regarding these FISA wire taps.
I'm telling you, Trump is playing 4D chess with this entire "Russia" issue. I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't already seen all the information regarding this situation.
Lewandowski claims Obama WH listened in on Sessions, Russian envoy meetings
Former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski said in an interview on “Justice with Judge Jeanine” Saturday that the Obama administration listened in on conversations between then-Sen. Jeff Sessions and Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak.
“What we have seen from the previous administration is they did spend time listening to conversations between then Senator Jeff Sessions and the ambassador to Russia while he was in his U.S. Senate office,” Lewandowski told Fox News’ Jeanine Pirro. “If that were to take place – which supposedly did take place – what other conversations are they listening in on.”
Lewandowski, trying to connect the dots, said the previous administration said they were aware of two conversations Sessions had with Kislyak – one time during the Republican National Convention and another in the U.S. Senate office.
“And they were monitoring who (Sessions) was having a conversation with from what I understand,” Lewandowski said. “If that is the case, that is very concerning. Is it possible that the previous administration was listening to the conversations that took place in Trump Tower from their political opponents? If that is the case, and what Donald Trump alludes to is accurate, then that’s very disturbing.”
The Justice Department said Wednesday that Sessions did meet with Kislyak twice in 2016. The first was an office visit that occurred in Sessions’ capacity as a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee and the second took place in a group setting with other ambassadors following a Heritage Foundation speech, which was sponsored by the Obama State Department.
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...and you post Mark Levin's Breitbart piece.
Is Levin talking out of his ass?
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Senator: Intel panel to look at alleged wiretap
http://archive.is/8LOsX#selection-1109.12-1109.59 (http://archive.is/8LOsX#selection-1109.12-1109.59)
The Latest on President Donald Trump's claim that then-President Barack Obama had Trump's telephones tapped during last year's election (all times EST):
11:10 a.m.
A Republican member of the Senate Intelligence Committee says he believes President Donald Trump's unsubstantiated allegations that his predecessor ordered wiretaps of Trump Tower will become part of the committee's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.
Arkansas Sen. Tom Cotton says, "We're going to follow the facts wherever they lead us. And I'm sure that this matter will be a part of that inquiry."
Trump has provided no evidence of his tweeted accusation that former President Barack Obama wiretapped Trump Tower during the 2016 presidential campaign.
And Cotton said he has not seen any evidence of official wiretapping.
Cotton tells "Fox News Sunday," ''That doesn't mean that none of these things happened. It simply means I haven't seen that yet."
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Is Levin talking out of his ass?
That was brutal
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That was brutal
Look at his sources. Certainly not Brietbart or Conservative talk radio or Alex Jones. It's the New York Times, etc.
"The question isn't if the Obama administration spied on the Trump capaign or transition or certain of it's surrogates, the issue is the extent of it". -Mark Levin
Meanwhile, the mainstream media is making the issue about Donald Trump's fucking Tweets.
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Look at his sources. Certainly not Brietbart or Conservative talk radio or Alex Jones. It's the New York Times, etc.
"The question isn't if the Obama administration spied on the Trump capaign or transition or certain of it's surrogates, the issue is the extent of it". -Mark Levin
Meanwhile, the mainstream media is making the issue about Donald Trump's fucking Tweets.
Obviously I'm not an attorney but if the evidence is this obvious through public information could you imagine what's the evidence that's not public? If this story keeps growing imagine who else will be brought down....besides a former President.
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#DrainTheSwamp
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So is this the left's argument??? Trying twist words...
The FISA court, which approves nearly every request, technically has to order or approve the relevant sort of wiretap in this case.
I can see it now:
Politifacts: It wasn't actually Obama that did the wiretapping, it was his administration. Also it wasn't to spy on Trump but to protect the USA.
Rating: Pants on fire.
EDIT: It isn't out of the realm of possibility that this occurred; see example:
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LOL - Trump says the New York Times is FAKE NEWS
so why are you giving us a source that Trump has said is fake?
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LOL - Trump says the New York Times is FAKE NEWS
so why are you giving us a source that Trump has said is fake?
Sweet shit dude, as much as your camp bitches about Russia which is a legitimate bitch.
Can you really not see the issue with what obama did?
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Sweet shit dude, as much as your camp bitches about Russia which is a legitimate bitch.
Can you really not see the issue with what obama did?
I don't know that Obama did anything
if there is proof then we'll know it soon
If Trump is talking out of this ass (like he does all the time) then we'll know that soon too
I'm only pointing out that Trump says the New York Times is FAKE NEWS
Do you dispute that Trump said this?
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Is Levin talking out of his ass?
Sessions should never have backed down. Big mistake. They need to stop doing that so easily. Who cares what they or some lunatic liberals think at this point? They are the corrupt party who is trying to derail America completely and have to be stopped.
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I don't know that Obama did anything
if there is proof then we'll know it soon
If Trump is talking out of this ass (like he does all the time) then we'll know that soon too
I'm only pointing out that Trump says the New York Times is FAKE NEWS
Do you dispute that Trump said this?
Trump says a lot of shit like all politicians, do you agree with what the obama admin did per the NYT?
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Trump says a lot of shit like all politicians, do you agree with what the obama admin did per the NYT?
per the NYT?
you mean you don't think the NYT is Fake News?
So you think Trump was wrong when he called the NYT fake news?
Try to keep in mind Trump has a history of believing bullshit that "someone told him" or that "he heard or saw somewhere"
I'm going with the odds that Trump is responding to bullshit in right wing media that has proven to be totally false
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/05/politics/clapper-trump-wiretap/index.html
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per the NYT?
you mean you don't think the NYT is Fake News?
So you think Trump was wrong when he called the NYT fake news?
Try to keep in mind Trump has a history of believing bullshit that "someone told him" or that "he heard or saw somewhere"
I'm going with the odds that Trump is responding to bullshit in right wing media that has proven to be totally false
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/05/politics/clapper-trump-wiretap/index.html
Shut up and listen for once. For eight long years you and your minions thought all the right was talking about were conspiracy theories until you got owned to oblivion with undeniable facts. You clowns NEVER learn your lessons and keep getting deeper and deeper in. The dem party is killing itself and frankly I'm loving every second of it.
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per the NYT?
you mean you don't think the NYT is Fake News?
So you think Trump was wrong when he called the NYT fake news?
Try to keep in mind Trump has a history of believing bullshit that "someone told him" or that "he heard or saw somewhere"
I'm going with the odds that Trump is responding to bullshit in right wing media that has proven to be totally false
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/05/politics/clapper-trump-wiretap/index.html
Didn't Clapper lie to congress under oath? A lie on a Sunday morning news show would be child's play.
On March 12th, 2013, during a United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence hearing, Senator Ron Wyden asked Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper the following question:
"Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?"
Director Clapper responded "No, sir."
Incredulously, Senator Wyden asked "It does not?"
Director Clapper responded "Not wittingly. There are cases where they could inadvertantly perhaps collect, but not wittingly."
So that he would be prepared to answer, Senator Wyden gave these questions to Director Clapper's office a day in advance of the hearing. Upon the hearing's completion, he also gave the Director a chance to amend his answer. He opted not to do so.
On June 6th, 2013, whistleblower Edward Snowden revealed to the world that the NSA was engaged in a secret program to collect tens of millions of Americans' phone call records. Further revelations would unveil NSA programs collecting Americans' web browsing histories, chat logs, email usage and even their physical locations.
The NSA had been collecting data on hundreds of millions of innocent Americans, and continues to do so.
Finally forced to acknowledge his remarks as "erroneous", Director Clapper claimed that he "misunderstood" the question (which he had been sent a day in advance) and that he had simply "forgotten" the relevant section of the Patriot Act covering these programs.
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Fortune
‘No Evidence’: Republican Lawmakers Want Answers About President Trump’s Wiretapping Claim
Mahita Gajanan
7:23 PM Pacific
Republican lawmakers want more information from President Trump following his unsubstantiated allegations that former President Obama had wiretapped Trump Tower during the 2016 election.
Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, a member of the Senate intelligence committee that is currently investigating Trump's team's ties to Russia, said Sunday during a "Meet The Press" interview that he has seen "no evidence" to support Trump's claims that were laid out in a series of tweets early Saturday morning.
"I'd imagine the President and the White House in the days to come will outline further what was behind that accusation," Rubio said. "The President put that out there, and now the White House will have to answer as to exactly what he was referring to."
Remember when Trump had his own secret evidence about Russian interference ? He was going to divulge it on Tuesday...Tuesday never came.
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Fortune
‘No Evidence’: Republican Lawmakers Want Answers About President Trump’s Wiretapping Claim
Mahita Gajanan
7:23 PM Pacific
Republican lawmakers want more information from President Trump following his unsubstantiated allegations that former President Obama had wiretapped Trump Tower during the 2016 election.
Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, a member of the Senate intelligence committee that is currently investigating Trump's team's ties to Russia, said Sunday during a "Meet The Press" interview that he has seen "no evidence" to support Trump's claims that were laid out in a series of tweets early Saturday morning.
"I'd imagine the President and the White House in the days to come will outline further what was behind that accusation," Rubio said. "The President put that out there, and now the White House will have to answer as to exactly what he was referring to."
Remember when Trump had his own secret evidence about Russian interference ? He was going to divulge it on Tuesday...Tuesday never came.
Answer my question about Levin. Do you think he is talking out of his ass? That he provides no evidence in the video above?
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Shut up and listen for once. For eight long years you and your minions thought all the right was talking about were conspiracy theories until you got owned to oblivion with undeniable facts. You clowns NEVER learn your lessons and keep getting deeper and deeper in. The dem party is killing itself and frankly I'm loving every second of it.
FUCK OFF
you're literally the last thing on earth (not even last human being) that I would listen to
you're a certified proven moron
Anything you believe if almost certain to be false
It's amazing that you don't already know this is how I feel about you
then again, you still can't figure out how to post a goddamn YouTube video (proof of just how fucking stupid you are)
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FUCK OFF
you're literally the last thing on earth (not even last human being) that I would listen to
you're a certified proven moron
Anything you believe if almost certain to be false
It's amazing that you don't already know this is how I feel about you
then again, you still can't figure out how to post a goddamn YouTube video (proof of just how fucking stupid you are)
At this point I look like a freaking mensa candidate compared to you. You still haven't addressed Levine's proof. Waiting.
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At this point I look like a freaking mensa candidate compared to you. You still haven't addressed Levine's proof. Waiting.
Levine has no proof
and you still look like the same pumpkin headed, midget moron that you always have
https://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/im-not-nostradamus-here-man-behind-trumps-wiretap-claim-says-he-cant-prove-obama-did-it/
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Levine has no proof
and you still look like the same pumpkin headed, midget moron that you always have
https://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/im-not-nostradamus-here-man-behind-trumps-wiretap-claim-says-he-cant-prove-obama-did-it/
Holy shit you idiot, he just showed it and your rebuttal is an article from "raw story"? Lmao
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Holy shit you idiot, he just showed it and your rebuttal is an article from "raw story"? Lmao
Since you believe Levine has "proof" and since Trump is POTUS we'll soon know for sure
right?
can't possibly have any other outcome
right?
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Since you believe Levine has "proof" and since Trump is POTUS we'll soon know for sure
right?
can't possibly have any other outcome
right?
Sure it can. Despite the overwhelming proof against Clinton, SO FAR she's been let off the hook courtesy of Obama's crooked administration. It's clear and no one in their right minds believes the Russian BS and since there are so many of Obamas left overs still around, they're trying everything in their power to bring him down. Since they can't find anything on him, they'll make up something.....like now.
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Sure it can. Despite the overwhelming proof against Clinton, SO FAR she's been let off the hook courtesy of Obama's crooked administration. It's clear and no one in their right minds believes the Russian BS and since there are so many of Obamas left overs still around, they're trying everything in their power to bring him down. Since they can't find anything on him, they'll make up something.....like now.
LOL
how can a Republican POTUS and and Republican Congress not uncover the truth
already making excuses
just like Levin did this morning
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Black Nixon
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LOL
Steve Bannon looks like a drunk and now it seems he's a day drinker too
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NYT: Comey Asks Justice Dept. to Reject Trump’s Wiretapping Claim
WASHINGTON — The F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, asked the Justice Department this weekend to publicly reject President Trump’s assertion that President Barack Obama ordered the tapping of Mr. Trump’s phones, senior American officials said on Sunday. Mr. Comey has argued that the highly charged claim is false and must be corrected, they said, but the department has not released any such statement.
Mr. Comey made the request on Saturday after Mr. Trump leveled his allegation on Twitter. Mr. Comey has been working to get the Justice Department to knock down Mr. Trump’s claim because there is no evidence to support it and it insinuates that the F.B.I. broke the law, the officials said.
A spokesman for the F.B.I. declined to comment. Sarah Isgur Flores, the spokeswoman for the Justice Department, also declined to comment.
A statement by the Justice Department or Mr. Comey refuting Mr. Trump’s allegations would be a remarkable rebuke of a sitting president, putting the nation’s top law enforcement officials in the position of questioning the truthfulness of the government’s top leader. The situation underscores the high stakes of what the president and his aides have set out by accusing the former president of a conspiracy to undermine Mr. Trump’s young administration.
EDIT: Wtf are "senior American officials"?
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Fortune
‘No Evidence’: Republican Lawmakers Want Answers About President Trump’s Wiretapping Claim
Mahita Gajanan
7:23 PM Pacific
Republican lawmakers want more information from President Trump following his unsubstantiated allegations that former President Obama had wiretapped Trump Tower during the 2016 election.
Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, a member of the Senate intelligence committee that is currently investigating Trump's team's ties to Russia, said Sunday during a "Meet The Press" interview that he has seen "no evidence" to support Trump's claims that were laid out in a series of tweets early Saturday morning.
"I'd imagine the President and the White House in the days to come will outline further what was behind that accusation," Rubio said. "The President put that out there, and now the White House will have to answer as to exactly what he was referring to."
Remember when Trump had his own secret evidence about Russian interference ? He was going to divulge it on Tuesday...Tuesday never came.
Ah, Marco.....This is one of the spineless ones I was referring to.
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If it's found that, say, physical wires were tapped (since electronic data, including cell communication, could be snatched without having to answer for it imo, since it would be unlikely to be found-out in the first place) then it'll force a question asking whether ANY info was used in a way to hurt Trump's campaign.
That would be a punch to end all.
But it may be a long way between here and there, I'll admit.
If they were (at least) trying to have actual wires tapped, though, it should go without saying that every word Trump wrote or spoke digitally to anyone, was surreptitiously collected for "some" reason. And it follows to say it may have been used against him in some way.
Unbelievable that more people didn't see this coming from way back in W's days.
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I keep thinking back to something Trump once advised, about using sealed papers and a courier as the safest way to communicate.
Anyone remember that?
Did he know something, then, and was he taking a shot at someone?
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The former DNI went on MTP and said there were no wire taps by the Obama admin on Trump Tower.
The credible evidence is Trump made it up and based on the briefings he got, knew it was bullshit.
I'm gonna say that the head of our national intelligence is more credible then Alex Jones or Mark Levine.
The head of our national intelligence that knowingly lied to congress about the NSA spying?
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The former DNI went on MTP and said there were no wire taps by the Obama admin on Trump Tower.
The credible evidence is Trump made it up and based on the briefings he got, knew it was bullshit.
I'm gonna say that the head of our national intelligence is more credible then Alex Jones or Mark Levine.
Sure....and ex-AG Loretta Lynch was believable too.
Sure Gump, whatever you say.
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THIS
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LOL
Steve Bannon looks like a drunk and now it seems he's a day drinker too
He looks like that one guy in all the zombie movies that gets bitten and infected and hides it from the rest of the survivors until he turns on them.
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This master plan of Obama's was truly diabolical. He spent years planning it apparently.
1- Wire tap Trump Towers
2- Gather damaging info
3- Say nothing
4- Let him win
5- Ride off into the sunset to the sound of Trumptards whining and crying
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This master plan of Obama's was truly diabolical. He spent years planning it apparently.
1- Wire tap Trump Towers
2- Gather damaging info
3- Say nothing
4- Let him win
5- Ride off into the sunset to the sound of Trumptards whining and crying
it's all part of his 12 year plan to "collapse the nation"
remember Obama is playing chess while the rest of us are playing checkers.
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??? We know that those wiretaps were of the Russian officials that people on Trump's campaign stayed in contact with. It's how we know that so many of them lie under oath.
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??? We know that those wiretaps were of the Russian officials that people on Trump's campaign stayed in contact with. It's how we know that so many of them lie under oath.
But they are getting leaked to the press? ???
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But they are getting leaked to the press? ???
Weren't you one of the posters making the argument that Trump firing staff who lie to him is a good sign and proves how ethical he is? That firing would never have happened if not for the press leaks, so isn't that a good thing?
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The New York Times Told Us Trump Was Wiretapped in January
RUSH: Before proceeding here on the investigatory efforts of the Obama Regime against Trump, I want to take just a brief diversion back to the New York Times story on January 20th, 2017. Remember, this is the story — and we could get the actual cutout of the front page that day and put it at RushLimbaugh.com. But the headline: “Wiretapped Data Used in Inquiry of Trump Aides.”
Folks, I mean, the idea that Trump’s allegation here is absurd, I’m telling you, there is far, far more substance to what Trump is alleging than the entire thing that the Democrats and the media are alleging. There is no evidence that the Russians had anything to do with the outcome of our election, none, and there won’t be any, because the Russians didn’t.
But there’s all kinds of evidence, circumstantial and suspicious and common sense that this is what the Obama administration did. We’ve got countless examples of them wiretapping. We’ve got their “house organ” admitting that wiretap data was used in the inquiry of Trump aides. But one of the names on this story, one of the reporters is named Michael S. Schmidt.
Now, I want to share something with you about the actual story accompanying this headline, “Wiretapped Data Used in Inquiry of Trump Aides.” And this comes from a blog called Yid With Lid. “In January Michael S. Schmidt perpetuated the rumor that team Trump had Russian connections, and to support his point he said that Trump’s people were wiretapped –” Michael S. Schmidt in the New York Times perpetuating the rumor that Trump had Russian connections and maybe affected the election, “and to support his point he said that Trump’s people were wiretapped.”
Well, how does he know? Somebody in the Regime, in the outgoing Regime, somebody had to share with him the data on the wiretaps, somebody had to tell him there were wiretaps, somebody had to tell him what the wiretaps had produced, ’cause he’s writing about it in the New York Times. But yet when Trump over the weekend claims they were wiretapped, this same guy, Michael S. Schmidt who wrote the piece in January, said there was no evidence that Trump had been wiretapped.
Now, folks, January 20th, New York Times, Michael Schmidt wrote that team Trump had Russia connections, and to support his point, said that Trump’s people were wiretapped, and that’s in the New York Times in January. So Trump tweets over the weekend that Obama’s wiretapping him, and how low that is and what Trump thinks of it and so forth. This same reporter comes back and says there’s no evidence of that. Trump’s a lunatic. There’s no evidence that. Trump’s insane.
Well, now how can this be? The New York Times has the word “wiretapped” in a headline. The writer, one of three on the piece, claims that Trump had Russian connections and to support the point, he said that Trump’s people were wiretapped. So Trump comes along, “Yeah, I was wiretapped.” Same reporter: “There’s no evidence of that.” Now, what’s going on at the New York Times? How in the world — do they know what they’re doing or did they just forget what they did? Are they so obsessed with hatred — and that’s what the Democrat Party and the left has become, folks.
If you’ve ever wondered what hate in politics looks like, if you’ve ever wondered what a hate group is, don’t listen to that Looney Toon at the Southern Poverty Law Center. Just listen to the people on the left, because this is pure, undiluted, raw hatred, and it is for Donald Trump and everybody who voted for him. Raw hatred does not build a movement. Raw hatred does not build success. Raw hatred destroys. Raw hatred is destructive.
These people at the New York Times write in January that Trump was wiretapped and that’s why we know he was working with the Russians. A month and a half later, Trump claims Obama wiretapped him, and the New York Times writer says, “There’s no evidence of that.” Well, was there no evidence when you wrote about it in January or did you forget what you wrote in January? Is it your raw hatred for Trump, your raw resentment at having lost, is that what’s causing you to lose every ounce of credibility, morality, authority, and credibility that you’ve got?
It’s not Trump who has some explaining to do. It’s not you who voted for Trump who have some explaining to do. You don’t need to justify yourselves, nor does Trump. But the people running this silent coup, the people in the media trying to unseat, trying to damage, trying to sabotage Trump, they have a lot of explaining to do.
And it’s only going to get worse because it is obvious that there’s nothing factual or very little that’s factual that is backing up everything these people are using to try to destroy Trump. It’s nothing but pure, raw hatred, and it’s on display for everybody to see.
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/03/06/the-new-york-times-told-us-trump-was-wiretapped-in-january/
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::) Dum Dum strikes again.
After Michael Flynn’s Resignation, Surveillance Defenders Suddenly Care About Wiretap Abuse
excerpted:
The fact that communications from the Russian delegation in Washington are closely monitored should surprise no one. The FBI routinely uses the NSA’s eavesdropping techniques to monitor the delegation — for obvious intelligence and counterintelligence reasons — and as a former top intelligence official in the Obama administration, Flynn must have known that his conversation would be intercepted.
Yet after the news of Flynn’s resignation, several traditional surveillance defenders rushed to the defense of his privacy rights as an “American citizen.”
Posted:February 15, 2017
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::) Dum Dum strikes again.
After Michael Flynn’s Resignation, Surveillance Defenders Suddenly Care About Wiretap Abuse
excerpted:
The fact that communications from the Russian delegation in Washington are closely monitored should surprise no one. The FBI routinely uses the NSA’s eavesdropping techniques to monitor the delegation — for obvious intelligence and counterintelligence reasons — and as a former top intelligence official in the Obama administration, Flynn must have known that his conversation would be intercepted.
Yet after the news of Flynn’s resignation, several traditional surveillance defenders rushed to the defense of his privacy rights as an “American citizen.”
Posted:February 15, 2017
Even after the last election where you lost EVERYTHING, you'll never learn. I cant wait until 2018 when the dem party is all but abolished. I've been saying for years....some of the dumbest mother f**kers on the planet. Not even joking here.
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Even after the last election where you lost EVERYTHING, you'll never learn. I cant wait until 2018 when the dem party is all but abolished. I've been saying for years....some of the dumbest mother f**kers on the planet. Not even joking here.
says the moron who is too stupid to understand the very simple thing that Al is trying to explain to you.
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Love it how some folks talk about the FBI or the CIA or the NSA would NEVER wiretap anyone.
AS FUCKING IF!
The CIA has overthrown governments, assassinated US presidents, et cetera.
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Even after the last election where you lost EVERYTHING, you'll never learn. I cant wait until 2018 when the dem party is all but abolished. I've been saying for years....some of the dumbest mother f**kers on the planet. Not even joking here.
For what it's worth... you have a lock on dumbest mother fukker on the planet. No competition for you. Your legacy is safe.
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Love it how some folks talk about the FBI or the CIA or the NSA would NEVER wiretap anyone.
AS FUCKING IF!
The CIA has overthrown governments, assassinated US presidents, et cetera.
no one here said that
it's virtually a certainty that we were monitoring calls from Russia and it's seems feasible that Trump or some/many of his surrogates were caught on tape
that's completely different than wire tapping Trump or his campaign
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I'm not up on all the details of any news, mostly because we know it can't be trusted. Right? Seems like a waste of time, unless trying to figure-out something else by way of it.
So, what's the meaning of this: "Flynn must have known that his conversation would be intercepted."
???
If that's true, then what might it say about Flynn? That's where I'm lost.
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no one here said that
it's virtually a certainty that we were monitoring calls from Russia and it's seems feasible that Trump or some/many of his surrogates were caught on tape
that's completely different than wire tapping Trump or his campaign
Yeah, man. So that's what it will come down to, maybe.
But what a steep and slippery slope. I'm glad this is being brought-up, and it's going to be interesting. Because we know our fair elections trump all else, and it's ass-kicking time at the slightest false move. Funny how he is bringing the fight right away.
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So exactly what was the denial about?
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Yeah, man. So that's what it will come down to, maybe.
But what a steep and slippery slope. I'm glad this is being brought-up, and it's going to be interesting. Because we know our fair elections trump all else, and it's ass-kicking time at the slightest false move. Funny how he is bringing the fight right away.
It's always been his MO, he needs to deflect the mounting questions regarding the Russian ties.
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It's always been his MO, he needs to deflect the mounting questions regarding the Russian ties.
Give it up, son. There is no proof of "Russian ties" but rather overwhelming and mounting proof that shit head obama and his cohorts are in this ass deep.
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Give it up, son. There is no proof of "Russian ties" but rather overwhelming and mounting proof that shit head obama and his cohorts are in this ass deep.
Sort of like Clinton's "treason" crimes that you cried over for 3 years?
Or Obama's "birther" conspiracy that you swallowed cock over for 8 years?
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Give it up, son. There is no proof of "Russian ties" but rather overwhelming and mounting proof that shit head obama and his cohorts are in this ass deep.
There is proof that high ranking republicans lied about contact.
There is proof that Flynn talked sanctions with the Russian Ambassador.
There is proof that Trump wont release his tax returns.
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There is proof that high ranking republicans lied about contact.
There is proof that Flynn talked sanctions with the Russian Ambassador.
There is proof that Trump wont release his tax returns.
Dude... give up. Facts, logic and common sense just do not penetrate the La La Land bubble that Coach lives in. Reality doesn't exist for him.
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Give it up, son. There is no proof of "Russian ties" but rather overwhelming and mounting proof that shit head obama and his cohorts are in this ass deep.
Mounting and overwhelming proof: a tweet from a sundowning buffoon that administration officials refuse to discuss or elaborate on.
Meanwhile, how many members of Trump's cabinet have lied under oath about contact with Russian officials? ::)
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Can't wait until all this comes out so i can watch you clowns bail off this site with nothing to say. Hell, even 240 and Fogerty are still awol....well, at least Fogerty is.
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Can't wait until all this comes out so i can watch you clowns bail off this site with nothing to say. Hell, even 240 and Fogerty are still awol....well, at least Fogerty is.
this is going to end in tears for someone
you seem to be oblivious it might be you
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@ failing NY Times!
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Can't wait until all this comes out so i can watch you clowns bail off this site with nothing to say. Hell, even 240 and Fogerty are still awol....well, at least Fogerty is.
240 is probably posting as a gimmick. I wonder what had to have happened in his life to ever support Hillary the way he did. Shame!
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EXCLUSIVE: FBI ‘Granted FISA Warrant’ Covering Trump Camp’s Ties To Russia
By Louise Mensch | 10:18 pm, November 7, 2016
https://heatst.com/world/exclusive-fbi-granted-fisa-warrant-covering-trump-camps-ties-to-russia/ (https://heatst.com/world/exclusive-fbi-granted-fisa-warrant-covering-trump-camps-ties-to-russia/)
Two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street that the FBI sought, and was granted, a FISA court warrant in October, giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of ‘U.S. persons’ in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia.
Contrary to earlier reporting in the New York Times, which cited FBI sources as saying that the agency did not believe that the private server in Donald Trump’s Trump Tower which was connected to a Russian bank had any nefarious purpose, the FBI’s counter-intelligence arm, sources say, re-drew an earlier FISA court request around possible financial and banking offenses related to the server. The first request, which, sources say, named Trump, was denied back in June, but the second was drawn more narrowly and was granted in October after evidence was presented of a server, possibly related to the Trump campaign, and its alleged links to two banks; SVB Bank and Russia’s Alfa Bank. While the Times story speaks of metadata, sources suggest that a FISA warrant was granted to look at the full content of emails and other related documents that may concern US persons.
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@ failing NY Times!
I'm sorry, but is this the article that is circled?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html (http://www.getbig.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html)
If so it doesn't claim that Trump tower was wire tapped, nor that Obama ordered anything, but that the investigation is a result of intercepted Russian communications.
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Can't wait until all this comes out so i can watch you clowns bail off this site with nothing to say. Hell, even 240 and Fogerty are still awol....well, at least Fogerty is.
You have been waiting for various things to conclude the way they are assembled in that defective noggin of yours for over 8 years now.
I guess you will just have to keep waiting.
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It's always been his MO, he needs to deflect the mounting questions regarding the Russian ties.
If that's the case, then he couldn't have chosen a better way to do it. These questions needed to be asked sooner rather than later, since later will be too late.
Maybe it's all meant to be.
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no one here said that
it's virtually a certainty that we were monitoring calls from Russia and it's seems feasible that Trump or some/many of his surrogates were caught on tape
that's completely different than wire tapping Trump or his campaign
Look, if you choose to believe an intelligence community that has a PROVEN track record of 1) killing Americans, 2) work for an outside entity when the job required, 3) start civil wars, 4) start coup d'états against the governments of sovereign nations, et cetera; be my guest, but please, don't insult people's intelligence by insinuating that the American intelligence community will not spy on Americans.
Whenever the CIA or the FBI or the NSA are involved in some sort of speculative episode, suspecting the worse will get you the truth.
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How exactly do the same people that believe Wikileaks Vault 7 not believe Trump on wiretapping? Been seeing this a lot today. I don't get it. You believe that the .gov spies on everyone but you don't think it happened to Trump for political purposes?
People's brains have been put in a blender over the last 90 days.
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How exactly do the same people that believe Wikileaks Vault 7 not believe Trump on wiretapping? Been seeing this a lot today. I don't get it. You believe that the .gov spies on everyone but you don't think it happened to Trump for political purposes?
People's brains have been put in a blender over the last 90 days.
I'm so glad Trump got in office; even if it does turn out to be a failure, which I don't believe it will.
If Hillary got in, chances are it would be "business as usual" and we'd be in pointless wars to make others rich. The Conspiracy theorists would still be guessing what the CIA/IC does because Hillary would have extradited/assassinated Assange in a heartbeat.
We really are in a "cold civil war" at the moment, and it is getting heated!
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I'm so glad Trump got in office; even if it does turn out to be a failure, which I don't believe it will.
I honestly HATED Trump. But seeing how he's getting it from everyone makes me believe he is the real deal.
Kuddos to him.
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I honestly HATED Trump. But seeing how he's getting it from everyone makes me believe he is the real deal.
Kuddos to him.
I didn't like him either, but he has surprised me. I still don't like the childish stuff he does, but overall he is doing a job. It's early though . . . .
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How exactly do the same people that believe Wikileaks Vault 7 not believe Trump on wiretapping?
*Because just yesterday, sympathetic house members declined to pursue his last twitter "bombshell" due to lack of evidence.
*Because he refuses to elaborate on his claims and has limited media access (even further) since making the claims
*Because his administration officials have said they won't be discussing the rather serious allegations any further, they've been actively avoiding confirming them and have been attempting to reframe the allegations from "hardcore proof" to "well,, maybe an investigation will turn something up. Ya never know."
*Because a major piece of "evidence" that people who believe these allegations cite is a NY Times headline which they are aggressively misinterpreting
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Nolte: MSM Always Knew Trump Camp Was Wiretapped — They Just Lied About It
by JOHN NOLTE
19 Sep 2017
President Trump’s total vindication over his wiretap claim reminds me of one of the most important things I have discovered over the past couple of years: If the national media loses its ever-loving mind and launches a campaign to brand Trump a liar, that can mean only one thing — that Trump is not only telling the truth, he is telling a Big Truth, an inconvenient truth, a truth the MSM does not want the American people to hear.
Almost exactly two years ago this sick pattern developed over then-candidate Trump’s assertion that he had seen “thousands” of American Muslims celebrate the September 11 terror attacks. For weeks after, every media outlet in America trashed Trump as a racist and liar. What we eventually learned, though, is that Trump was 100% correct; that at the time, local media reported on “swarms” of American Muslims celebrating 9/11, and that for more than a decade our media had bent over backwards to cover this disturbing truth up.
Which brings me to Trump’s March 4 tweet-storm claiming the Obama administration wiretapped his campaign.
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Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!
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Ever since, despite the fact that the MSM knew Trump told the truth, despite the fact that the MSM itself had previously reported on the Obama administration’s wiretaps and surveillance of Team Trump, the media has coordinated another campaign to brand Trump a liar.
In fact, to the surprise of absolutely no one, the MSM is STILL lying about this. For example, here is CNN’s Chris Cillizza today using about a million words to try to write around his own network’s report from yesterday about the Obama administration’s wiretaps — before and after the election — on no less than Trump’s campaign chairman(!), Paul Manafort – including a renewed FISA warrant (despite no evidence from the 2014 one) that extended into early this year — you know, when Trump was a sitting president.
Regardless, the news of Obama’s abuse of surveillance power was all over the MSM early this year, in The New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, McClatchy, NBC News, ABC News, the BBC, CBS News, the Associated Press. Prior to Trump’s March 4 tweets, each of these news outlets informed the American people that the Obama administration had in some way used the mighty powers of the federal government to spy on Team Trump, including outright “wiretaps.”
Nevertheless, despite their own reporting, we have had six months of the MSM saying, “Elephant? What elephant?” — six months of the MSM pretending its own reporting never existed, six months of straight-up, bald-faces lies.
On February 14, 2017 — just three weeks prior to Trump’s tweet-storm — CNN celebrated the fact that a wiretap (as reported in the New York Times) helped to take down Trump’s national security adviser Mike Flynn. CNN even reported on the fact that “transcripts” of Flynn’s calls had been key in his firing.
In other words, CNN not only knew Trump had been surveilled by the Obama administration, CNN had gleefully shouted the news of that surveillance from the rooftops.
But because CNN is currently the most dishonest (and dangerous) propaganda outlet operating in the free world, as though their own reporting never happened, CNN gave us six months of flat-out lies, hours and hours devoted to spreading deliberate falsehoods like these:
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White House sextuples down on false wiretap claims http://cnn.it/2nXrTJs - @jeffzeleny reports #TheLead
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Scum @brianstelter, remember when you said Trump's wiretap claim is a conspiracy theory?
Apologize! Liar! #Manafort
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Chris Cillizza: “Donald Trump just flat-out lied about Trump Tower wiretapping”
Tapper again: “It Was and Continues to Be a Lie”
Because CNN is completely amoral, the leftwing cable news network also used the wiretapping story as a weapon to attack those media outlets that told the truth about Obama’s abuse of power, including Breitbart News.
But all across the media spectrum, and again despite their very own reporting (as detailed here), the rest of the national media eagerly joined the howling mob, united in what they all knew was a dishonest crusade to intentionally lie to the American people:
The AP: “Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phones, cites no evidence”
NBC’s Chuck Todd, Mark Murray and Carrie Dann: “President Trump’s assertion — without evidence — that Barack Obama wire-tapped Trump Tower during the 2016 election started as a ‘conspiratorial rant’ on conservative talk radio[.]”
ABC News: “A timeline of President Trump’s unsubstantiated wiretapping claims”
New York Times: “Fact Check: Trump Misleads About The Times’s Reporting on Surveillance”
Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler, the most dishonest man in the media not named Jake Tapper: “Trump earns [the full-boat of] Four Pinocchios.”
Need I go on?
In a coordinated campaign, almost every media outlet in the country, almost every Big Shot reporter in America, purposely and with the intent to deceive, looked you dead in the eye and LIED to you; repeatedly gaslighted, swindled, conned, and hustled you.
Oh, and so did the media’s chief bootlickers — those pathetic, cowardly, lying liars in the #NeverTrump crowd. Many of those among the GOP establishment were well-aware of the indisputable evidence proving otherwise, but driven only by their hatred of Trump and desperation to stay in the MSM’s good graces, they as well willingly and knowingly joined the media mob in lying to you.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/09/19/nolte-msm-always-knew-trump-camp-was-wiretapped-they-just-lied-about-it/
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I wondered which Trumptard would be the first to spin this
Trump "camp" wasn't wired tapped
FBI started wiretapping Manafort in 2014 which was a year before there was even a Trump candidacy much less a "Trump Camp"
Trumptards gonna Trumptard
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Vindicated.
It looks like Obama did spy on Trump, just as he apparently did to me
BY SHARYL ATTKISSON, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR — 09/20/17
TheHill.com
Many in the media are diving deeply into minutiae in order to discredit any notion that President Trump might have been onto something in March when he fired off a series of tweets claiming President Obama had “tapped” “wires” in Trump Tower just before the election.
According to media reports this week, the FBI did indeed “wiretap” the former head of Trump’s campaign, Paul Manafort, both before and after Trump was elected. If Trump officials — or Trump himself — communicated with Manafort during the wiretaps, they would have been recorded, too.
But we’re missing the bigger story.
If these reports are accurate, it means U.S. intelligence agencies secretly surveilled at least a half dozen Trump associates. And those are just the ones we know about.
Besides Manafort, the officials include former Trump advisers Carter Page and Michael Flynn. Last week, we discovered multiple Trump “transition officials” were “incidentally” captured during government surveillance of a foreign official. We know this because former Obama adviser Susan Rice reportedly admitted “unmasking,” or asking to know the identities of, the officials. Spying on U.S. citizens is considered so sensitive, their names are supposed to be hidden or “masked,” even inside the government, to protect their privacy.
In May, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and former Acting Attorney General Sally Yates acknowledged they, too, reviewed communications of political figures, secretly collected under President Obama.
Weaponization of intel agencies?
Nobody wants our intel agencies to be used like the Stasi in East Germany; the secret police spying on its own citizens for political purposes. The prospect of our own NSA, CIA and FBI becoming politically weaponized has been shrouded by untruths, accusations and justifications.
You’ll recall DNI Clapper falsely assured Congress in 2013 that the NSA was not collecting “any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans.”
Intel agencies secretly monitored conversations of members of Congress while the Obama administration negotiated the Iran nuclear deal.
In 2014, the CIA got caught spying on Senate Intelligence Committee staffers, though CIA Director John Brennan had explicitly denied that.
There were also wiretaps on then-Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) in 2011 under Obama. The same happened under President George W. Bush to former Congresswoman Jane Harman (D-Calif.).
Journalists have been targeted, too. This internal email, exposed by WikiLeaks, should give everyone chills. It did me.
Dated Sept. 21, 2010, the “global intelligence” firm Stratfor wrote:
[John] Brennan [then an Obama Homeland Security adviser] is behind the witch hunts of investigative journalists learning information from inside the beltway sources.
Note -- There is specific tasker from the WH to go after anyone printing materials negative to the Obama agenda (oh my.) Even the FBI is shocked. The Wonder Boys must be in meltdown mode...
The government subsequently got caught monitoring journalists at Fox News, The Associated Press, and, as I allege in a federal lawsuit, my computers while I worked as an investigative correspondent at CBS News. On Aug. 7, 2013, CBS News publicly announced:
… correspondent Sharyl Attkisson’s computer was hacked by ‘an unauthorized, external, unknown party on multiple occasions,’ confirming Attkisson’s previous revelation of the hacking.
Then, as now, instead of getting the bigger story, some in the news media and quasi-news media published false and misleading narratives pushed by government interests. They implied the computer intrusions were the stuff of vivid imagination, conveniently dismissed forensic evidence from three independent examinations that they didn’t review. All seemed happy enough to let news of the government’s alleged unlawful behavior fade away, rather than get to the bottom of it.
I have spent more than two years litigating against the Department of Justice for the computer intrusions. Forensics have revealed dates, times and methods of some of the illegal activities. The software used was proprietary to a federal intel agency. The intruders deployed a keystroke monitoring program, accessed the CBS News corporate computer system, listened in on my conversations by activating the computer’s microphone and used Skype to exfiltrate files.
We survived the government’s latest attempt to dismiss my lawsuit. There’s another hearing Friday. To date, the Trump Department of Justice — like the Obama Department of Justice — is fighting me in court and working to keep hidden the identities of those who accessed a government internet protocol address found in my computers.
Evidence continues to build. I recently filed new information unearthed through forensic exams. As one expert told the court, it was “not a mistake; it is not a random event; and it is not technically possible for these IP addresses to simply appear on her computer systems without activity by someone using them as part of the cyber-attack.”
Patterns
It’s difficult not to see patterns in the government’s behavior, unless you’re wearing blinders.
The intelligence community secretly expanded its authority in 2011 so it can monitor innocent U.S. citizens like you and me for doing nothing more than mentioning a target’s name a single time.
In January 2016, a top secret inspector general report found the NSA violated the very laws designed to prevent abuse.
In 2016, Obama officials searched through intelligence on U.S. citizens a record 30,000 times, up from 9,500 in 2013.
Two weeks before the election, at a secret hearing before the FISA court overseeing government surveillance, NSA officials confessed they’d violated privacy safeguards “with much greater frequency” than they’d admitted. The judge accused them of “institutional lack of candor” and said, “this is a very serious Fourth Amendment issue.”
Officials involved in the surveillance and unmasking of U.S. citizens have said their actions were legal and not politically motivated. And there are certainly legitimate areas of inquiry to be made by law enforcement and intelligence agencies. But look at the patterns. It seems that government monitoring of journalists, members of Congress and political enemies — under multiple administrations — has become more common than anyone would have imagined two decades ago. So has the unmasking of sensitive and highly protected names by political officials.
Those deflecting with minutiae are missing the point. To me, they sound like the ones who aren’t thinking.
Sharyl Attkisson (@SharylAttkisson) is an Emmy-award winning investigative journalist, author of The New York Times bestsellers “The Smear” and “Stonewalled,” and host of Sinclair’s Sunday TV program “Full Measure.”
http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/351495-it-looks-like-obama-did-spy-on-trump-just-as-he-did-to-me
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I wondered which Trumptard would be the first to spin this
Trump "camp" wasn't wired tapped
FBI started wiretapping Manafort in 2014 which was a year before there was even a Trump candidacy much less a "Trump Camp"
Trumptards gonna Trumptard
You have much more intestinal fortitude than myself when it comes to trying to engage the retards of getbig.
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You have much more intestinal fortitude than myself when it comes to trying to engage the retards of getbig.
I'm a bit slow at work at the moment and posting here keeps me from overtrading due to boredom
Notice how the fact that Manafort was being wire tapped a year before there was even a Trump candidacy doesn't in any way change the beliefs of the Trumptards in this board that Trump himself was wired tapped
I'm wondering why Trump continued to talk to Manafort all the way into 2017 after having fired and disavowed him in 2016.
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I'm a bit slow at work at the moment and posting here keeps me from overtrading due to boredom
Notice how the fact that Manafort was being wire tapped a year before there was even a Trump candidacy doesn't in any way change the beliefs of the Trumptards in this board that Trump himself was wired tapped
I'm wondering why Trump continued to talk to Manafort all the way into 2017 after having fired and disavowed him in 2016.
I'm honestly (politically) exhausted. LOL.
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I think it's hysterical that everytime time Trump is called out he winds up proving all the haters wrong....lol.
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I think it's hysterical that everytime time Trump is called out he winds up proving all the haters wrong....lol.
if you had called Manafort on the phone you would have been caught on his wire tap
is your pea sized brain does that mean that the government is wiretapping you?
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if you had called Manafort on the phone you would have been caught on his wire tap
is your pea sized brain does that mean that the government is wiretapping you?
Ssshhhh, quiet little man. All of this winning is giving you a nervous breakdown
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Ssshhhh, quiet little man. All of this winning is giving you a nervous breakdown
so you're unwilling or unable to answer a very simple question Tubby?
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Did we forget about the whole "unmasking of names" thing?
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Did we forget about the whole "unmasking of names" thing?
No.
Samantha Power sought to unmask Americans on almost daily basis, sources say
Bret Baier By Bret Baier, Catherine Herridge
Fox News
Samantha Power, the former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, was 'unmasking' at such a rapid pace in the final months of the Obama administration that she averaged more than one request for every working day in 2016 – and even sought information in the days leading up to President Trump’s inauguration, multiple sources close to the matter told Fox News.
Two sources, who were not authorized to speak on the record, said the requests to identify Americans whose names surfaced in foreign intelligence reporting, known as unmasking, exceeded 260 last year. One source indicated this occurred in the final days of the Obama White House.
The details emerged ahead of an expected appearance by Power next month on Capitol Hill. She is one of several Obama administration officials facing congressional scrutiny for their role in seeking the identities of Trump associates in intelligence reports – but the interest in her actions is particularly high.
OBAMA OFFICIAL MADE 'HUNDREDS OF UNMASKING REQUESTS,' GOP CHAIRMAN SAYS
In a July 27 letter to Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., said the committee had learned "that one official, whose position had no apparent intelligence-related function, made hundreds of unmasking requests during the final year of the Obama Administration."
The "official" is widely reported to be Power.
During a public congressional hearing earlier this year, Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy of South Carolina pressed former CIA director John Brennan on unmasking, without mentioning Power by name.
Gowdy: Do you recall any U.S. ambassadors asking that names be unmasked?
Brennan: I don't know. Maybe it's ringing a vague bell but I'm not -- I could not answer with any confidence.
Gowdy continued, asking: On either January 19 or up till noon on January 20, did you make any unmasking requests?
Brennan: I do not believe I did.
Gowdy: So you did not make any requests on the last day that you were employed?
Brennan: No, I was not in the agency on the last day I was employed.
Brennan later corrected the record, confirming he was at CIA headquarters on January 20. "I went there to collect some final personal materials as well as to pay my last respects to a memorial wall. But I was there for a brief period of time and just to take care of some final -- final things that were important to me," Brennan said.
Three of the nation's intelligence agencies received subpoenas in May explicitly naming three top Obama administration officials: Former national security adviser Susan Rice, Brennan and Power. Records were requested for Ben Rhodes, then-President Barack Obama's adviser, but the documents were not the subject of a subpoena.
A spokesperson for Power had no comment on the number or timing of her requests. But in a previous statement, her lawyer David Pressman emphasized that, "While serving as our Permanent Representative to the United Nations, Ambassador Power was also a member of the National Security Council responsible for advising the President on the full-range of threats confronting the United States. Any insinuation that Ambassador Power was involved in leaking classified information is absolutely false."
During congressional testimony since the unmasking controversy began, National Security Agency Director Adm. Mike Rogers has explained that unmasking is handled by the intelligence community in an independent review.
"We [the NSA] apply two criteria in response to their request: number one, you must make the request in writing. Number two, the request must be made on the basis of your official duties, not the fact that you just find this report really interesting and you're just curious,” he said in June. “It has to tie to your job and finally, I said two but there's a third criteria, and is the basis of the request must be that you need this identity to understand the intelligence you're reading."
Previous U.N. ambassadors have made unmasking requests, but Fox News was told they number in the low double digits.
Power has agreed to meet with the Senate and House intelligence committees as part of the Russia probe. She is expected before the House committee in a private, classified session in October.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/20/samantha-power-sought-to-unmask-americans-on-almost-daily-basis-sources-say.html
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No.
Samantha Power sought to unmask Americans on almost daily basis, sources say
Bret Baier By Bret Baier, Catherine Herridge
Fox News
Samantha Power, the former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, was 'unmasking' at such a rapid pace in the final months of the Obama administration that she averaged more than one request for every working day in 2016 – and even sought information in the days leading up to President Trump’s inauguration, multiple sources close to the matter told Fox News.
Two sources, who were not authorized to speak on the record, said the requests to identify Americans whose names surfaced in foreign intelligence reporting, known as unmasking, exceeded 260 last year. One source indicated this occurred in the final days of the Obama White House.
The details emerged ahead of an expected appearance by Power next month on Capitol Hill. She is one of several Obama administration officials facing congressional scrutiny for their role in seeking the identities of Trump associates in intelligence reports – but the interest in her actions is particularly high.
OBAMA OFFICIAL MADE 'HUNDREDS OF UNMASKING REQUESTS,' GOP CHAIRMAN SAYS
In a July 27 letter to Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., said the committee had learned "that one official, whose position had no apparent intelligence-related function, made hundreds of unmasking requests during the final year of the Obama Administration."
The "official" is widely reported to be Power.
During a public congressional hearing earlier this year, Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy of South Carolina pressed former CIA director John Brennan on unmasking, without mentioning Power by name.
Gowdy: Do you recall any U.S. ambassadors asking that names be unmasked?
Brennan: I don't know. Maybe it's ringing a vague bell but I'm not -- I could not answer with any confidence.
Gowdy continued, asking: On either January 19 or up till noon on January 20, did you make any unmasking requests?
Brennan: I do not believe I did.
Gowdy: So you did not make any requests on the last day that you were employed?
Brennan: No, I was not in the agency on the last day I was employed.
Brennan later corrected the record, confirming he was at CIA headquarters on January 20. "I went there to collect some final personal materials as well as to pay my last respects to a memorial wall. But I was there for a brief period of time and just to take care of some final -- final things that were important to me," Brennan said.
Three of the nation's intelligence agencies received subpoenas in May explicitly naming three top Obama administration officials: Former national security adviser Susan Rice, Brennan and Power. Records were requested for Ben Rhodes, then-President Barack Obama's adviser, but the documents were not the subject of a subpoena.
A spokesperson for Power had no comment on the number or timing of her requests. But in a previous statement, her lawyer David Pressman emphasized that, "While serving as our Permanent Representative to the United Nations, Ambassador Power was also a member of the National Security Council responsible for advising the President on the full-range of threats confronting the United States. Any insinuation that Ambassador Power was involved in leaking classified information is absolutely false."
During congressional testimony since the unmasking controversy began, National Security Agency Director Adm. Mike Rogers has explained that unmasking is handled by the intelligence community in an independent review.
"We [the NSA] apply two criteria in response to their request: number one, you must make the request in writing. Number two, the request must be made on the basis of your official duties, not the fact that you just find this report really interesting and you're just curious,” he said in June. “It has to tie to your job and finally, I said two but there's a third criteria, and is the basis of the request must be that you need this identity to understand the intelligence you're reading."
Previous U.N. ambassadors have made unmasking requests, but Fox News was told they number in the low double digits.
Power has agreed to meet with the Senate and House intelligence committees as part of the Russia probe. She is expected before the House committee in a private, classified session in October.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/20/samantha-power-sought-to-unmask-americans-on-almost-daily-basis-sources-say.html
:o
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Still haven't seen a shred of evidence that any "unmasking" was improper
Just add it to the long list of bullshit that Repubs get upset about that never amounts to anything
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Fuck off you commie bastard
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Still haven't seen a shred of evidence that any "unmasking" was improper
Just add it to the long list of bullshit that Repubs get upset about that never amounts to anything
I know you're used to seeing classified material in the press, but be patient with this one...
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I know you're used to seeing classified material in the press, but be patient with this one...
Same goes for Investigations on Trump by House/Senate and of course Mueller
They are even more recent than the "unmasking" claims so remind yourself and fellow Trumptards to be patient on that as well
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Same goes for Investigations on Trump by House/Senate and of course Mueller
They are even more recent than the "unmasking" claims so remind yourself and fellow Trumptards to be patient on that as well
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if you had called Manafort on the phone you would have been caught on his wire tap
is your pea sized brain does that mean that the government is wiretapping you?
Well, I'm sure if you were part of a wire tap in any way you would refer to yourself in that way and so would your lawyer. The left can try but can't win using gotcha tactics and semantics.
Apparently Obama did it and it was not legal. He did it to the press as well but not a peep about that which is pretty interesting. It goes to show the natural independence and curiosity that has always been a part of journalism has been traded in for a steady paycheck to be part of a politically affiliated ad machine.
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Well, I'm sure if you were part of a wire tap in any way you would refer to yourself in that way and so would your lawyer. The left can try but can't win using gotcha tactics and semantics.
Apparently Obama did it and it was not legal. He did it to the press as well but not a peep about that which is pretty interesting. It goes to show the natural independence and curiosity that has always been a part of journalism has been traded in for a steady paycheck to be part of a politically affiliated ad machine.
Obama didn't do it and it was perfectly legal
Here are the actual facts
A secret order authorized by the court that handles the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) began after Manafort became the subject of an FBI investigation that began in 2014. It centered on work done by a group of Washington consulting firms for Ukraine's former ruling party,
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html
This was of course a year before Trumptard even announced his candidacy
If you called your drug dealer and unbeknownst to you he was being wire tapped I would laugh my ass off if your lawyer tried to argue in court that YOU were being illegally wired tapped
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Fuck off you commie bastard
LOL - you're sure are a butt hurt fat queen
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I know you're used to seeing classified material in the press, but be patient with this one...
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Obama didn't do it and it was perfectly legal
Here are the actual facts
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html
This was of course a year before Trumptard even announced his candidacy
If you called your drug dealer and unbeknownst to you he was being wire tapped I would laugh my ass off if your lawyer tried to argue in court that YOU were being illegally wired tapped
CNN has never brought an actual fact. Try again sister.
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CNN has never brought an actual fact. Try again sister.
brought an actual fact
WTF are you talking about?
Can you use that in a sentence with a subject
for example
CNN has never brought an actual fact about>......fill in the subject
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brought an actual fact
WTF are you talking about?
Can you use that in a sentence with a subject
for example
CNN has never brought an actual fact about>......fill in the subject
Anything political regarding Trump
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(https://i.redd.it/ltkgq6qdvcnz.jpg)
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The facts are that Manafort was wiretapped and that he had a residence at Trump Tower.
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Libtards ::)
Still crying over the lost election.
:D
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Anything political regarding Trump
making such a claim literally proves you're a certified moron
If the entirety of their reporting on Trump regarding "anything political" was false they wouldn't exist as a news organization
If even 25% was false they wouldn't exist
For example, here's a story that is true so that alone destroys your premise
I could fill this board with other undeniable accurate reports but it wouldn't matter because you are truly immune to facts
It's official: Clinton swamps Trump in popular vote
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/21/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-popular-vote-final-count/index.html
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making such a claim literally proves you're a certified moron
If the entirety of their reporting on Trump regarding "anything political" was false they wouldn't exist as a news organization
If even 25% was false they wouldn't exist
For example, here's a story that is true so that alone destroys your premise
I could fill this board with other undeniable accurate reports but it wouldn't matter because you are truly immune to facts
It's official: Clinton swamps Trump in popular vote
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/21/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-popular-vote-final-count/index.html
Keep quoting CNN, it even makes you look fake. Then you wonder why no one takes you seriously
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Keep quoting CNN, it even makes you look fake. Then you wonder why no one takes you seriously
He will never be the poster 240 was
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Keep quoting CNN, it even makes you look fake. Then you wonder why no one takes you seriously
Is that a false story Tubby?
How about this one
Also fake?
Special counsel asks WH for documents pertaining to Trump presidency
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/20/politics/mueller-white-house-documents/index.html