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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Howard on March 14, 2017, 07:38:36 AM
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The Mon deadline has passed and we still have ZERO evidence that Obama had the phones tapped in Trump Tower. His surrogates are doing their best to spin the charge but it looks bad.
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He'll never produce evidence. It's what he does. Makes a major allegation and doesn't provide proof.
On this one he should be held to the fire.
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:o :o :o :o Mods please cross post this to the tinfoil threads!
Judge Nap: Obama 'Went Outside Chain of Command,' Used British Spy Agency to Surveil Trump
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/03/14/judge-napolitano-why-there-may-never-be-proof-even-if-obama-spied-trump (http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/03/14/judge-napolitano-why-there-may-never-be-proof-even-if-obama-spied-trump)
The Justice Department on Monday asked lawmakers for more time to gather evidence related to President Trump's claim that former President Obama ordered wiretaps on Trump Tower's phones during last year's presidential campaign.
The House Intelligence Committee said it would give the Justice Department until March 20 to comply.
Current and former administration officials have been unable to provide any evidence of the Obama administration wiretapping Trump Tower, yet the president's aides have been reluctant to publicly contradict their boss.
On "Fox & Friends" this morning, Judge Andrew Napolitano said that even if the Obama administration did spy on Trump, there may never be a way to prove it.
He explained that the statutes allow the president to order the surveillance of any person in the U.S., without suspicion, probable cause or a warrant, but that would leave "fingerprints."
In this case, the alleged surveillance was reportedly ordered in a way that left no record, he said.
"Three intelligence sources have informed Fox News that President Obama went outside the chain of command," Napolitano said. "He didn't use the NSA, he didn't use the CIA, he didn't use the FBI, and he didn't use the Department of Justice."
Instead, Napolitano said, Obama used GCHQ, a British intelligence and security organization that has 24-7 access to the NSA database.
"There's no American fingerprints on this," Napolitano said. "What happened to the guy who ordered this? Resigned three days after Donald Trump was inaugurated."
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Where is the Russian evidence you were all over, Howard? They've had months and months to produce it and still nothing yet you bought it.
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Where is the Russian evidence you were all over, Howard? They've had months and months to produce it and still nothing yet you bought it.
I don't know if there was any direct involvement but the House Intelligence Committee's hearing is scheduled for March 20th.
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:o :o :o :o Mods please cross post this to the tinfoil threads!
Judge Nap: Obama 'Went Outside Chain of Command,' Used British Spy Agency to Surveil Trump
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/03/14/judge-napolitano-why-there-may-never-be-proof-even-if-obama-spied-trump (http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/03/14/judge-napolitano-why-there-may-never-be-proof-even-if-obama-spied-trump)
The Justice Department on Monday asked lawmakers for more time to gather evidence related to President Trump's claim that former President Obama ordered wiretaps on Trump Tower's phones during last year's presidential campaign.
The House Intelligence Committee said it would give the Justice Department until March 20 to comply.
Current and former administration officials have been unable to provide any evidence of the Obama administration wiretapping Trump Tower, yet the president's aides have been reluctant to publicly contradict their boss.
On "Fox & Friends" this morning, Judge Andrew Napolitano said that even if the Obama administration did spy on Trump, there may never be a way to prove it.
He explained that the statutes allow the president to order the surveillance of any person in the U.S., without suspicion, probable cause or a warrant, but that would leave "fingerprints."
In this case, the alleged surveillance was reportedly ordered in a way that left no record, he said.
"Three intelligence sources have informed Fox News that President Obama went outside the chain of command," Napolitano said. "He didn't use the NSA, he didn't use the CIA, he didn't use the FBI, and he didn't use the Department of Justice."
Instead, Napolitano said, Obama used GCHQ, a British intelligence and security organization that has 24-7 access to the NSA database.
"There's no American fingerprints on this," Napolitano said. "What happened to the guy who ordered this? Resigned three days after Donald Trump was inaugurated."
weird that these so called intelligence sources would go to Fox News rather than to Trumps Justice Department
I guess that is going to be there next stop so I assume the White House will be sharing this with the public very soon.
We know the US spies on it's allies but I'm sure our allies would never surveil us and certainly would have no reason or cause to surveil a bat shit crazy candidate with a penchant for picking fights with US allies
they would never do that on their own
btw - did anyone catch Trumps spokesliar on TV the last few days offering all kind of crazy CT's and then saying she's "not in the job of having evidence"
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weird that these so called intelligence sources would go to Fox News rather than to Trumps Justice Department
I guess that is going to be there next stop so I assume the White House will be sharing this with the public very soon.
We know the US spies on it's allies but I'm sure our allies would never surveil us and certainly would have no reason or cause to surveil a bat shit crazy candidate with a penchant for picking fights with US allies
they would never do that on their own
btw - did anyone catch Trumps spokesliar on TV the last few days offering all kind of crazy CT's and then saying she's "not in the job of having evidence"
That was entertaining as fuck. It was a rough couple days without getbig to make fun of her.
(https://thetab.com/blogs.dir/91/files/2017/03/obamamamaa-600x284.jpg)
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Maybe she got the idea from something like this:
At a 2012 conference held by In-Q-Tel CIA Director David Patraeus declared that the rapidly-developing “internet of things” and “smart home” will provide the CIA with the ability to spy on any US citizen should they become a “person of interest’ to the spy community,” Wired magazine reports. “‘Transformational’ is an overused word, but I do believe it properly applies to these technologies,’ Patraeus enthused, ‘particularly to their effect on clandestine tradecraft’ … ‘Items of interest will be located, identified, monitored, and remotely controlled through technologies such as radio-frequency identification, sensor networks, tiny embedded servers, and energy harvesters — all connected to the next-generation internet using abundant, low-cost, and high-power computing,” Patraeus said, “the latter now going to cloud computing, in many areas greater and greater supercomputing, and, ultimately, heading to quantum computing.” Spencer Ackerman, “CIA Chief: We’ll Spy on You Through Your Dishwasher,” Wired, March 15, 2012.
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Maybe she got the idea from something like this:
What they can do and what they did do are two different issues. Where is the evidence that Obama had Trump's office wiretapped?
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And btw, the "items of interest will be located" part shouldn't be taken lightly, even if you aren't Donald Trump.
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What they can do and what they did do are two different issues. Where is the evidence that Obama had Trump's office wiretapped?
I'll be the first to admit there's no way for me to recognize atm whether that's true.
Maybe you can tell me how you know.
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I'll be the first to admit there's no way for me to recognize atm whether that's true.
Maybe you can tell me how you know.
I mean it's possible, but I don't believe it. This is very typical of Trump's behaviour to make allegations like this with no evidence, and then when called out just say 'meh' and move on. His birther beliefs are a prime example of this. Difference is that he's president now and his words should carry a lot more weight.
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I mean it's possible, but I don't believe it. This is very typical of Trump's behaviour to make allegations like this with no evidence, and then when called out just say 'meh' and move on. His birther beliefs are a prime example of this. Difference is that he's president now and his words should carry a lot more weight.
I agree that it seems he isn't handling it as he should, and also agree that it's a pattern in his behavior.
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weird that these so called intelligence sources would go to Fox News rather than to Trumps Justice Department
I guess that is going to be there next stop so I assume the White House will be sharing this with the public very soon.
We know the US spies on it's allies but I'm sure our allies would never surveil us and certainly would have no reason or cause to surveil a bat shit crazy candidate with a penchant for picking fights with US allies
they would never do that on their own
btw - did anyone catch Trumps spokesliar on TV the last few days offering all kind of crazy CT's and then saying she's "not in the job of having evidence"
She was destroyed on tv yesterday. At this point, it will probably get to the point where networks won't even allow Kellyanne to have any more airtime.
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He'll never produce evidence. It's what he does. Makes a major allegation and doesn't provide proof.
On this one he should be held to the fire.
What fire? At this point no one cares what he says. Once a fool always fool....that is Trump.
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Let's face it Obama probably did spy on Trump. And his birth certificate is a fraud. Hope that helps!
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I agree that it seems he isn't handling it as he should, and also agree that it's a pattern in his behavior.
BTW he's in a most difficult spot so I shouldn't judge him so quickly. Considering what he's doing (or says he wants to do) then maybe he has his reasons.
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some of you guys need to watch some H. S. Goodman videos.
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Let's face it Obama probably did spy on Trump. And his birth certificate is a fraud. Hope that helps!
Oh really? Well good to know. The evidence shouldn't be hard to come by then. ::)