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Title: About the CIA, FBI, etc, wiretapping "investigations"
Post by: chaos on March 22, 2017, 06:05:13 PM
If any of these organizations came out and admitted that Trump was under surveillance wouldn't they be implicating themselves in a crime? Could they (FBI, CIA, etc) sluff it all off on Obama? If they did, could that info be used in charging Obama with a crime? What "independent" organization would review this evidence?
Title: Re: About the CIA, FBI, etc, wiretapping "investigations"
Post by: TuHolmes on March 22, 2017, 06:33:28 PM
Honestly, I highly doubt it would go to Obama.

The question will always be how much independence do intelligence agencies have?

My impression is they have a lot of leave way to do whatever they choose to do. Not to mention the question of how the surveillance was processed.

For instance, we have the CIA who does something and gets information about something in a country... Let's call it "Rusghanistan". They happen to notice that this person's name who is involved lives in the US. They then pass that to the FBI or the NSA, (Which would not have happened before The Patriot Act was legalized) who then monitors that person.

That person happens to then at some point, be a part of a person's campaign... Let's say Dillary Truminton... At this point, they, as a part of previous investigation, are now performing surveillance on a campaign.

No crime is occurring at any point and it's just typical intelligence work.
Title: Re: About the CIA, FBI, etc, wiretapping "investigations"
Post by: Yamcha on March 22, 2017, 07:11:42 PM
http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/170321-Final%20Whistleblower%20Letter.pdf (http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/170321-Final%20Whistleblower%20Letter.pdf)

>CIA whistleblower leaks 47 hard drives and 600 million documents
>Obama spied on Trump
>Obama spied on 156 judges
>Obama spied on Supreme Court justices
Title: Re: About the CIA, FBI, etc, wiretapping "investigations"
Post by: Skeletor on March 22, 2017, 07:23:41 PM
Title: Re: About the CIA, FBI, etc, wiretapping "investigations"
Post by: Nick Danger on March 22, 2017, 08:29:46 PM
http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/170321-Final%20Whistleblower%20Letter.pdf (http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/170321-Final%20Whistleblower%20Letter.pdf)

>CIA whistleblower leaks 47 hard drives and 600 million documents
>Obama spied on Trump
>Obama spied on 156 judges
>Obama spied on Supreme Court justices

Please tell me this isn't the same Dennis Montgomery who duped the Bush administration concerning a Christmas terrorist attack...somewhere in the early to mid 2000s.
Title: Re: About the CIA, FBI, etc, wiretapping "investigations"
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 22, 2017, 10:03:09 PM
If any of these organizations came out and admitted that Trump was under surveillance wouldn't they be implicating themselves in a crime? Could they (FBI, CIA, etc) sluff it all off on Obama? If they did, could that info be used in charging Obama with a crime? What "independent" organization would review this evidence?

Yes, but they have no reason to cover for Obama neither....especially since he's no longer in office.  Not only that, he wouldn't have that type of clout....otherwise Hillary would have been elected
Title: Re: About the CIA, FBI, etc, wiretapping "investigations"
Post by: George Whorewell on March 22, 2017, 10:39:07 PM
Yes, but they have no reason to cover for Obama neither....especially since he's no longer in office.  Not only that, he wouldn't have that type of clout....otherwise Hillary would have been elected

Vince Goodrum= Living (barely) proof of how lead paint causes birth defects.
Title: Re: About the CIA, FBI, etc, wiretapping "investigations"
Post by: Slapper on March 23, 2017, 07:27:26 PM
If any of these organizations came out and admitted that Trump was under surveillance wouldn't they be implicating themselves in a crime? Could they (FBI, CIA, etc) sluff it all off on Obama? If they did, could that info be used in charging Obama with a crime? What "independent" organization would review this evidence?

The goal is to get rid of Trump, and anything or anyone that prevents the goal from being reached is waster effort. And blaming it all on Obama is wasted effort.

In fact, if a full-fledged investigation were to be carried out, I highly suspect more people than Obama would be outed/charged, causing a political shit storm that would make The Donald look like Moses parting the waters of the Red Sea.
Title: Re: About the CIA, FBI, etc, wiretapping "investigations"
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 23, 2017, 07:39:07 PM


He was sweating bullets on that question. Couldn't even look him in the eye, rubbing his head nervously. I'm no body language expert but that seemed pretty blatant to me.