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Dog owner fatally mauled by Staffordshire bull terrier while he was being 'interviewed for BBC documentary'
A dog owner mauled to death by his Staffordshire bull terrier was allegedly being interviewed by the BBC when the horrific attack took place.
Police say that a 41-year-old man died in Wood Green, North London, after being bitten on the neck by his pet dog.
But it has now been claimed that BBC staff were present during the filming of a documentary when the dog fatally attacked its owner.
In a statement to Sky, the BBC said: ‘We are aware of an incident but we cannot comment any further as it’s an ongoing investigation.’
The man’s cause of death was recorded as hypovolemic shock and damage to the airway – with the injuries said to be consistent with a dog bite.
He was pronounced dead at hospital in the early hours of Tuesday last week, after police were called to a property at 10.25PM on Monday evening.
The dog remains in secure kennels after being seized by police – who have since confirmed that the animal is not prohibited under the Dangerous Dogs Act.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/dog-owner-fatally-mauled-by-staffordshire-bull-terrier-while-he-was-being-interviewed-for-bbc-documentary-074925727.html
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#fake news
if the dog has been identified as "not prohibited under the Dangerous Dogs Act" it's not a staffordshire bull terrier
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#fake news
if the dog has been identified as "not prohibited under the Dangerous Dogs Act" it's not a staffordshire bull terrier
What do you mean? Staffordshire Bull Terriers are not prohibited. They do not come under the 'Pit Bull-type' classification.
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What do you mean? Staffordshire Bull Terriers are not prohibited. They do not come under the 'Pit Bull-type' classification.
Yet, they are pit bull types. And let's not forget that there maybe people who will try to register their pit bulls as Staffys, because the pit can pass as a Staffy. The UK will not prohibit their own dogs.
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Yet, they are pit bull types. And let's not forget that there maybe people who will try to register their pit bulls as Staffys, because the pit can pass as a Staffy. The UK will not prohibit their own dogs.
Whether or not one's individual opinion of them is that they are a 'Pit Bull-type', it is irrelevant to the law. They are not a banned breed and they do not come under the 'Pit Bull-type' category. If it was genetically tested and found to have Pit Bull DNA in its makeup then it would, and it would be put down. These dogs are one of the most common breeds in the UK. Their history is very similar to the Pit Bulls, but they are a different breed. The 'Pit Bull-type' legislation is due to the fact that many individuals own Pit Bulls or Pit Bull crossbreeds and try to register them as Staffordshire Bull Terriers. There has always been a big issue with Pit Bulls being smuggled in from Ireland and crossed with other breeds like the American Bulldog in order to pass them off as legal crossbreeds, but if you can prove that your dog is not one of these then it is perfectly legal to have as a pet.
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What do you mean? Staffordshire Bull Terriers are not prohibited. They do not come under the 'Pit Bull-type' classification.
exactly so it wasn't a Staffordshire Bull terrier as the title claimed.
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Yet, they are pit bull types. And let's not forget that there maybe people who will try to register their pit bulls as Staffys, because the pit can pass as a Staffy. The UK will not prohibit their own dogs.
It's very easy to tell a pedigree Staffordshire Bull terrier for people who know these dogs. So pretty much impossible to pass anything else off as that.
In reality most of the "pit bull types" in UK are generally staffies crossed with bigger dogs like mastiffs or rottweilers even labradors
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exactly so it wasn't a Staffordshire Bull terrier as the title claimed.
Well, no. If it was not prohibited, then it is a Staffordshire Bull Terrier. If it wasn't, then it would be prohibited. I think we are both in agreement that Staffordshires are not a banned breed, though.
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Well, no. If it was not prohibited, then it is a Staffordshire Bull Terrier. If it wasn't, then it would be prohibited. I think we are both in agreement that Staffordshires are not a banned breed, though.
The headline said SBT then at end article said this
"The dog remains in secure kennels after being seized by police – who have since confirmed that the animal is not prohibited under the Dangerous Dogs Act."
That why I said it was fake news. The dog in question was not a SBT.
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The headline said SBT then at end article said this
"The dog remains in secure kennels after being seized by police – who have since confirmed that the animal is not prohibited under the Dangerous Dogs Act."
That why I said it was fake news. The dog in question was not a SBT.
Conker, I'm not meaning to come across as supercilious or argue for the sake of it, but the dog IS a Staffordshire Bull Terrier. Prohibited means banned, so if the police have said that the dog is NOT prohibited, then it means it is not one of the four UK banned breeds and was therefore most likely to be the breed they suspected it to be.
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It's very easy to tell a pedigree Staffordshire Bull terrier for people who know these dogs. So pretty much impossible to pass anything else off as that.
In reality most of the "pit bull types" in UK are generally staffies crossed with bigger dogs like mastiffs or rottweilers even labradors
Where do you think Pit bulls came from? There are a lot of pit bulls that look like Staffies because pit bulls are working dogs, they have no real set phenotype, like Am Staffs do. That is why you have pits that look like Staffies with brick heads, and pits that look more like hounds. And pits that are 35 pounds, and pits that are 135 pounds. They all are molosser dogs. They are were bred for fighting, yet the UK plays this nationalist game, in excluding its own bully breeds.
I've seen pits that look like pure bred English Staffies. They are not hard to find, they are in pounds across America.
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https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public/banned-dogs
the article states the dog was a Staffordshire bull terrier, it also sates it wasn't a banned breed, the dog then in all probability could be a staff.
Its sensationalist reporting like this that gets certain breeds a bad name though.
If it was indeed a confirmed a staff then there is no need at all to mention banned breeds at all.
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The headline said SBT then at end article said this
"The dog remains in secure kennels after being seized by police – who have since confirmed that the animal is not prohibited under the Dangerous Dogs Act."
That why I said it was fake news. The dog in question was not a SBT.
Am I fucking high or does this make no sense?
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Where do you think Pit bulls came from? There are a lot of pit bulls that look like Staffies because pit bulls are working dogs, they have no real set phenotype, like Am Staffs do. That is why you have pits that look like Staffies with brick heads, and pits that look more like hounds. And pits that are 35 pounds, and pits that are 135 pounds. They all are molosser dogs. They are were bred for fighting, yet the UK plays this nationalist game, in excluding its own bully breeds.
I've seen pits that look like pure bred English Staffies. They are not hard to find, they are in pounds across America.
the police will check a dog and then if a judge decides its a pit bull and a potential danger then it can be destroyed, if it is decided it isn't a danger then the dog can be chipped castrated and put on a register, this is normally done if the owner is deemed responsible enough to keep it muzzled in public.
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Am I fucking high or does this make no sense?
it makes sense in the fact he has totally misunderstood the article.
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it makes sense in the fact he has totally misunderstood the article.
I'm not even sure that accounts for it. ??? It seems like he's mostly describing what he read accurately, but his conclusion is just off the mark.
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https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public/banned-dogs
the article states the dog was a Staffordshire bull terrier, it also sates it wasn't a banned breed, the dog then in all probability could be a staff.
Its sensationalist reporting like this that gets certain breeds a bad name though.
If it was indeed a confirmed a staff then there is no need at all to mention banned breeds at all.
The dog had apparently bit the owner before.
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I'm not even sure that accounts for it. ??? It seems like he's mostly describing what he read accurately, but his conclusion is just off the mark.
No, hes totally wrong in his conclusion, the article is correct
The dog is named as a staff and also confirmed as not a dangerous dog under the act.
that is factually correct.
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The dog had apparently bit the owner before.
all dogs can bite people...
its just most dogs tend not to bite hard enough to kill
In before locking jaw comments.... ::)
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I'm not even sure that accounts for it. ??? It seems like he's mostly describing what he read accurately, but his conclusion is just off the mark.
I think he's just confusing 'permitted' with 'prohibited' and not reading the sentence closely. If the dog was not permitted - because of the dangerous dogs act - then it couldn't be a Staffy. If the dog is not prohibited under the dangerous dogs act, then it most likely is a Staffy.
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musclecenter eats SBT's for breakfast
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No, hes totally wrong in his conclusion, the article is correct
The dog is named as a staff and also confirmed as not a dangerous dog under the act.
that is factually correct.
But, but he's a "Staffie" (English) not one of those "pit bulls" (American). That means he's better and not prohibited, therefore not "bad".
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Am I fucking high or does this make no sense?
yes you are probably high!
OK i say this one more time....slooowwwwlllllyy yyyyy
the journalist who wrote this article claimed the dog in question was a staffordshire bull terrier. the police who seized the dog identified it as being a "prohibited" dog meaning it could not have been a SBT as SBTs are not on the list of prohibited dog breeds in the UK.
the journalist made a false claim as to the breed of dog in question.
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hahaha just reread i missed the word "not" from the article ......ok is me that's high on this occasion >:(
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But, but he's a "Staffie" (English) not one of those "pit bulls" (American). That means he's better and not prohibited, therefore not "bad".
staffies and "pitbulls" in general have very similar temperaments. they tend to be naturally dog aggressive but soft as sht with humans. SBTs are actually nicknamed "nanny dogs" in UK because they are notoriously good with children.
the only reason pit bull types are banned in uk is they attract idiot owners that mistreat and mismanage them, end result a powerful,vicious dog they have no control over.
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staffies and "pitbulls" in general have very similar temperaments. they tend to be naturally dog aggressive but soft as sht with humans. SBTs are actually nicknamed "nanny dogs" in UK because they are notoriously good with children.
the only reason pit bull types are banned in uk is they attract idiot owners that mistreat and mismanage them, end result a powerful,vicious dog they have no control over.
What you said doesn't really make sense. It pretty much means that there is nothing stopping a person from buying a Staffie and doing the same thing, since they have similar temperament. A lot of the fighting dogs are about 45 pounds. About the same as a Staffie (35-45 pounds), but less than a standard Bull Terrier. The big monsterous pits are like bodybuilders, non functioning mass, get winded and are poor in the ring. They are more "human intimidating"
There was a documentary on dog fighting in the UK.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ellam_dogfighting-undercover-bbc-documentary_animals (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ellam_dogfighting-undercover-bbc-documentary_animals)
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hahaha just reread i missed the word "not" from the article ......ok is me that's high on this occasion >:(
I was just about to point that out ;D
Its one of those slips when reading, you can read the same piece of text multiple times and still miss a word you are not expecting because your brain has already come to a conclusion.
There is a name for it but i cant remember what...
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I was just about to point that out ;D
Its one of those slips when reading, you can read the same piece of text multiple times and still miss a word you are not expecting because your brain has already come to a conclusion.
There is a name for it but i cant remember what...
i actually read it about half a dozen times without spotting it! was thinking what the fk are these people on about lol
What you said doesn't really make sense. It pretty much means that there is nothing stopping a person from buying a Staffie and doing the same thing, since they have similar temperament. A lot of the fighting dogs are about 45 pounds. About the same as a Staffie (35-45 pounds), but less than a standard Bull Terrier. The big monsterous pits are like bodybuilders, non functioning mass, get winded and are poor in the ring. They are more "human intimidating"
There was a documentary on dog fighting in the UK.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ellam_dogfighting-undercover-bbc-documentary_animals (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ellam_dogfighting-undercover-bbc-documentary_animals)
what bit doesn't make sense?
there is nothing stopping anyone buying a staffie and then crossing it with something else. there's just a very good chance the offspring will then fall into the pitbull type classification and can then be taken away by the authorities and destroyed.
most bull terrier breeds tend to generally have similar temperaments, anyone that's been around a lot of them will testify. they tend to be naturally dog aggressive whilst loving people.
i'd personally love to own an ASBT but they fall into pitbull type in the UK. the law is pretty stupid but unfortunately these types of dogs attract idiots that want a dog as a status symbol.
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I don't support dog fighting in any way, but I do support the APBT. This is an old documentary about dog fighting. To your point about Pit bulls being animal aggressive, but not human aggressive. Baker Davis talks about grand champion Boomerang 10:40-11:50.
exactly, even when trained to fight other dogs their over riding natural instinct is still people friendly. there are stories (may just be myth) back in the day when dog fighting was legal in the UK that an injured staffy would often be taken home in same pram with the baby after a fight lol as their temperament with people was so reliable.
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I don't support dog fighting in any way, but I do support the APBT. This is an old documentary about dog fighting. To your point about Pit bulls being animal aggressive, but not human aggressive. Baker Davis talks about grand champion Boomerang 10:40-11:50.
unfortunately the pits have a strong prey drive and a very strong bite, they also have a tendency to shake whatever they grab a hold of, that combination isn't great if they bite an adult and worse still a child.
many other breeds even larger dogs dont have those three combined traits hence why pitbulls are so feared by the general public.
I used to own a french mastiff American bulldog mix, he wasnt aggressive to other dogs unless challenged or attacked, he then flipped and simply wouldnt have stopped until he killed the other dog unless I got him off, he used to flip dogs over and grab their groin area.
I had to keep him on the lead at all times unless I was miles from anywhere.
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Bad owners fuck it up for everyone else
Dogs are largely awesome
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I thought this was a sex video shoot between Vince and Adonis that went wrong.....
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i actually read it about half a dozen times without spotting it! was thinking what the fk are these people on about lol
I had to read it about the same amount of times as well. I thought you were trolling me! I've looked after two Staffordshire Bull Terriers before - great dogs but I will always be a mastiff owner. My Dogue De Bordeaux is the love of my life.
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I had to read it about the same amount of times as well. I thought you were trolling me! I've looked after two Staffordshire Bull Terriers before - great dogs but I will always be a mastiff owner. My Dogue De Bordeaux is the love of my life.
hahaha
i have a 10 year staffy is as loyal an animal as you could ever get. even when i take a sht he sits outside the bathroom door waiting lol. my mate has a fkin huge 2 or 3yr old brindle mastiff , not sure of the exact breed but is a beautiful dog
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No, hes totally wrong in his conclusion, the article is correct
The dog is named as a staff and also confirmed as not a dangerous dog under the act.
that is factually correct.
Right. But in this case the act was wrong. Therefore it's the owner who should have been banned, which he was, by act of dog. QED.
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Dog owner fatally mauled by Staffordshire bull terrier while he was being 'interviewed for BBC documentary'
A dog owner mauled to death by his Staffordshire bull terrier was allegedly being interviewed by the BBC when the horrific attack took place.
Police say that a 41-year-old man died in Wood Green, North London, after being bitten on the neck by his pet dog.
But it has now been claimed that BBC staff were present during the filming of a documentary when the dog fatally attacked its owner.
In a statement to Sky, the BBC said: ‘We are aware of an incident but we cannot comment any further as it’s an ongoing investigation.’
The man’s cause of death was recorded as hypovolemic shock and damage to the airway – with the injuries said to be consistent with a dog bite.
He was pronounced dead at hospital in the early hours of Tuesday last week, after police were called to a property at 10.25PM on Monday evening.
The dog remains in secure kennels after being seized by police – who have since confirmed that the animal is not prohibited under the Dangerous Dogs Act.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/dog-owner-fatally-mauled-by-staffordshire-bull-terrier-while-he-was-being-interviewed-for-bbc-documentary-074925727.html
And the dog's owner was telling in that interview how harmless and sweet these dog's are, and how their bad reputation is only bullshit spread by dog haters.. ;D
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UkJeffery would suffer the same fate, except he'd die ceying and trying to call the police on the dog.
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UkJeffery would suffer the same fate, except he'd die ceying and trying to call the police on the dog.
If dogs could talk they wouldn't speak to you...