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To anyone who has ever used or abused this, what is the draw? One of my best mates is so far addicted (30+ grams a week) but he can afford it so hasn't that financial incentive to quit. I have tried it in the past and didn't get much off it and I'm not a drinker so didn't use it so I could party all weekend like some do. He's really going to do himself some damage as it's gone on almost a year now at that level, sometimes more. Any tips on how to help him, taking into account his lifestyle allows him to take as much of it as he wants every day.
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I was once hooked on creatin too. 5 grams a day.
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Worst drug ever.All it did for me was make me stay up and drink more beers.Pointless loser drug.you can't help him,have had many friends get into coke and heroine.Nothing can be done,he will stop when he doesn't have the funds any more or something bad happens due to the drug use or he dies,hopefully that doesn't happen.People won't listen to reason especially when doing lots of drugs or drinking all the time.
And Howard all rehab does is give addicts a place to meet and get better drug connections for the most part.I brought a friend to over 20 rehabs and he just got worse and met more addicts.I gave up after giving him over 10k to get a new apt away from the people he did drugs with and pay off mounting utilities bills etc...They need to do it on their own that is the only way it will work.
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Wakes you up. Essentially that's it. Like a rush.
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Seems like some guys physiology makes them more likely to enjoy it and get addicted while others couldn't care less. Personally i didn't care for it and didnt see any "fun" in it (only tried it a couple times) if you gave me a gram today i wouldn't even bother with it. Id rather sell it and buy some sushi and put gas in my car. Lol.. Id enjoy that much more than the coke. So long as ur buddy can afford it he'll probably keep doing it. 30g a week is a lot. Thats almost 10 8balls lol could be over 1k a week depending on quality. Maybe point out how much $52k a year could be if he invested it instead. Thinking about all the money i wasted on opiates in a year and a half (more than what ur buddy is spending, unfortunately) still bothers me. I wasted what could've been a 20% downpayment on a $400k house or two $200k houses and rented them out, covered the mortgage on both and netted over $1k on each each every month and covered rent in an apt & bills... If he's addicted, he's likely not thinking about thistuff, ike that. He's thinking about his next re-up first, then covering bills and stuff that week or month and not thinking about 6 months or 2yrs from now. Even if money isnt an issue, 30g of coke a week is gonna fuck with his health. He's gonna fuck with his heart and either have a heartbattack or stroke, coke is toxic to his cardiovascular system, not to mention the hole he's gonna burn in his nose.. Maybe he'll get to the point where snorting the shit isnt enough and he starts shooting it.. Then he'll burn up and destroy his veins very quickly, not to mention the guaranteed abscess's from missed shots that coke produces. If he's lucky, he wont have an instant heart attack/overdose or have an abcess to into sepsis and endocarditis like i had (mine wasnt from coke though and was before i was shooting the black stuff, however).... Sooner he quits the better. Coke and stimulants really fuck up guys brain chemistry. Long term users seem to never be the same.. Always super quick tempered and irrational, paranoid, and high strung. Guess im lucky, all i have is anxiety and insomnia.. Same things i was self-medicating for.
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Nope, just made me feel awake. Not spiritually. Just coffee awake. Tell him drink some coffee instead.
Semi-serious, if sobriety won't take then give him a couple tabs of LSD and drop him off in the forest. He'll spend 8 hours intensely examining his life.
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Its good when your drunk as shit, sober your ass right up
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To anyone who has ever used or abused this, what is the draw? One of my best mates is so far addicted (30+ grams a week) but he can afford it so hasn't that financial incentive to quit. I have tried it in the past and didn't get much off it and I'm not a drinker so didn't use it so I could party all weekend like some do. He's really going to do himself some damage as it's gone on almost a year now at that level, sometimes more. Any tips on how to help him, taking into account his lifestyle allows him to take as much of it as he wants every day.
well from past experienceand observations I can tell you once his nose runs out he will start smoking it and once his lungs run out he will start injecting it or vice versa.
either way no matter how much coin he has or thinks he has it will make him it's bitch sooner than later either by money, crime, health or all 3.
no end game with coke except sobriety, prison, institution/hospital or death
can't help him unless he wants, no matter how much you try/suffer, sorry
if he does want help, detox, rehab, then CA/AA or something similar
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I've done blow several times when I was younger. Used it as an occasional pick-me-up if was going out on the town for drinks. Never did enough to get used to the side effects, which for me, was insomnia that could sometimes last a full day afterwards. I don't do it anymore because just too dangerous because it can be cut with Fentanyl and you can OD on it with small amounts.
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To anyone who has ever used or abused this, what is the draw? One of my best mates is so far addicted (30+ grams a week) but he can afford it so hasn't that financial incentive to quit. I have tried it in the past and didn't get much off it and I'm not a drinker so didn't use it so I could party all weekend like some do. He's really going to do himself some damage as it's gone on almost a year now at that level, sometimes more. Any tips on how to help him, taking into account his lifestyle allows him to take as much of it as he wants every day.
First draw is peer pressure after that it really depends on your predisposition to addiction. After 24 years almost 25 of being clean, it's not worth the experiment
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At least with coke or meth, they don't have to worry about physical withdrawal like with opiates and alcohol. He won't have the 24-7 skin-crawaling, heart-pounding, freezing Cold clammy skin yet pouring sweat, with anxiety and insomnia that lasts for days of not weeks with opiates and alcohol (or months with Nubian and methadone), & deliurium/ auditory hallucinations, uncontrollable shaking and tremors, & seziures (with alcohol, and ghb, I suppose benz's although never had withdrawal from benzos) when 30seconds feel like 2hours... At least his withdrawal is gonna be psychological primarily. .. Of course there's always PAWS. Post Acute Withdrawal Sun from where months after getting clean, you suddenly feel withdrawal that feels like day 1 again. After being clean since apr last year, I had a few days of that a couple months ago a few weeks apart. Yawning, runny nose, sneezing, cold sweats(which i still have.. Sleeping on a bath towel every night and wake up soaked and freezing from the AC and fan), etc... Every morning waking up feels like that huge first drop on a roller-coaster or falling backwards down an elevator-shaft.. And that's after a year clean.
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Tried it twice. Not all that. High for 30 min. Needed more. It's a tarp!
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People saying it's like a cup of coffee might not have done enough to get high? I'm no expert but it does have a feeling of euphoria. Really annoying how it makes you want to talk and talk especially about yourself. Horrible, horrible come down. As toxic as meth is it seems superior to coke in many of it's effects.
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And with coke (and meth or other stims), the "draw" is the dopamine. Coke is a dopamine reuptake inhibitor (makes your brain utilize dopamine more efficiently), whereas meth causes a huge release of dopamine.
Dopamine is a "reward" neurotransmitter. Imagine the feeling you get when you hit "21" playing blackjack, ofnthenfeeling afternsex, or the feeling you had when you finnished your homework in high school, or the feeling you get when you got a bonus check at work, or opening presents on Xmas morning as a kid (before you grew up and it became fucking stressfull), or biting into that first bite of some delicious sushi after you've been craving it for 3 days.... All those things cause a release of dopamine, imagine having the ability to snort some white powder and feel that feeling on demand, & multiply that by 10.
That's the "draw".
Like i said above, I never got that feeling from any stimulants.. However i did to a small degree when shooting opiates. Even when i was out of my stuff and couldn't get ahold of my supplier, just doing a shot drawn up from soaked, used heroin filters provided relief.... Even though the water in shot looked like 10iu coca cola diluted in 60iu water and contained maybe 10mg heroin, whereas my usual shots looked like used motor oil and contained 900mg heroin, just the act of the injection gave that dopamine release (dopamine is only a very small part of heroin addiction/high.. It has other actions)... Now I crave eating sushi more than I crave injecting something. BTW, Part of that feeling is the instant-gratification of injecting, snorting, smoking, or drinking something. You don't get that with pills, generally.
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At least with coke or meth, they don't have to worry about physical withdrawal like with opiates and alcohol. He won't have the 24-7 skin-crawaling, heart-pounding, freezing Cold clammy skin yet pouring sweat, with anxiety and insomnia that lasts for days of not weeks with opiates and alcohol (or months with Nubian and methadone), & deliurium/ auditory hallucinations, uncontrollable shaking and tremors, & seziures (with alcohol, and ghb, I suppose benz's although never had withdrawal from benzos) when 30seconds feel like 2hours... At least his withdrawal is gonna be psychological primarily. .. Of course there's always PAWS. Post Acute Withdrawal Sun from where months after getting clean, you suddenly feel withdrawal that feels like day 1 again. After being clean since apr last year, I had a few days of that a couple months ago a few weeks apart. Yawning, runny nose, sneezing, cold sweats(which i still have.. Sleeping on a bath towel every night and wake up soaked and freezing from the AC and fan), etc... Every morning waking up feels like that huge first drop on a roller-coaster or falling backwards down an elevator-shaft.. And that's after a year clean.
true, but every time he gets a paycheck or 3 beers in him the craving will return
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People saying it's like a cup of coffee might not have done enough to get high? I'm no expert but it does have a feeling of euphoria. Really annoying how it makes you want to talk and talk especially about yourself. Horrible, horrible come down. As toxic as meth is it seems superior to coke in many of it's effects.
First time doing it i shot 300mg I.v. which was "ok"? But I sure wouldn't pay money for it
.. After that (months later) snorted about 1/2g and was asleep in 15mins. Wasn't bunk shit, other guy was using the same batch for days and high constantly. Many months after that put 1/2 of up each nostril one morning in Mexico and felt my heart flutter a bit and a lil numbing in my sinus, but zero "euphoria"... Like i said, some peoples body chemistry responds differently to certain things. Like some ppl take 2 Vicodin (10mg) and fall asleep, and I could take 900mg dicetylmorphine if and be wide awake and stimulated. Everybody's different.
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true, but every time he gets a paycheck or 3 beers in him the craving will return
That's true for a lot of things. When I got of of the first rehab last year, I made quite a few thousand pretty quick.. Thinking "well, I've got my bills taken care of for an few months, I could probably afford 6grams right now and its probably last me 2 months because I'd only do 2 shots a day and never 3 days in a row... This time"..... The good thing was/is I had no way to get hold of anything, & is get sick from Tylenol before I felt anything from Vicodin or Percocet (I've taken 30 each before and felt nothing).
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That's true for a lot of things. When I got of of the first rehab last year, I made quite a few thousand pretty quick.. Thinking "well, I've got my bills taken care of for an few months, I could probably afford 6grams right now and its probably last me 2 months because I'd only do 2 shots a day and never 3 days in a row... This time"..... The good thing was/is I had no way to get hold of anything, & is get sick from Tylenol before I felt anything from Vicodin or Percocet (I've taken 30 each before and felt nothing).
My biggest problem being a binger was getting paid once every 2 weeks and later once a month because I had $2500/2weeks or $5000/month clear to play with all at once, I would play that tape in my head the days before how I will pay this and that bill(say 75%of the take) then I would get paid and have one beer and by the next 5-15 days everything would be gone on booze, coke and crack
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To anyone who has ever used or abused this, what is the draw? One of my best mates is so far addicted (30+ grams a week) but he can afford it so hasn't that financial incentive to quit. I have tried it in the past and didn't get much off it and I'm not a drinker so didn't use it so I could party all weekend like some do. He's really going to do himself some damage as it's gone on almost a year now at that level, sometimes more. Any tips on how to help him, taking into account his lifestyle allows him to take as much of it as he wants every day.
Keeps you awake and mentally alert....a powerful stimulant. The crash afterwards sucks.
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havent had any in years but fukn love it, makes me feel invincible
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If coffee and cocaine seem like the same thing to you then you didn't do good coke and frankly it's retarded to even suggest all it does is wake you up.
anyone who's done great cocaine, knows this.
It's euphoric. it's gives the user a feeling of added confidence and a sense of super well being. a sexual hightness.
That's how it starts anyway, then when youbstart hitting abuse levels, you're dick shrivels into a raisin, you could wind up shitting and pissing every 5 minutes sometimes. Occasional gut rot feeling.
If you've really binged alot then it's the heart racing and shortness of breath that can be frightening. Having trouble.focusing on.items and the feeling like you're going to have a frigging seizure. it's the worst feeling and one that ultimately made me never touch it again.
Im thankful my experience made me not have to endure even worse scenerios like others struggle with.
It's a terrible drug and I know too many people that have at one point or continue to ruin their Iives binging on this shit.
I wish I could explain why some people just can't say no even when they have lost their relationship, job, family trust and part of themselves to it.
and the next idiot that says it's because they are weak people, don't understand the power of addiction. It's a sad thing to witness an individual that would sell.off anything they own for more of that shit powder.
Stay away from it. nothing good will come of it.
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esfitness on a roll in this thread....
and the stories go on and on and on...
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havent had any in years but fukn love it, makes me feel invincible
no its just like having a coffee. ::)
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I used to supply Tony Montana
esfitness approved
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no its just like having a coffee. ::)
If coffee and cocaine seem like the same thing to you then you didn't do good coke and frankly it's retarded to even suggest all it does is wake you up.
anyone who's done great cocaine, knows this.
It's euphoric. it's gives the user a feeling of added confidence and a sense of super well being. a sexual hightness.
That's how it starts anyway, then when youbstart hitting abuse levels, you're dick shrivels into a raisin, you could wind up shitting and pissing every 5 minutes sometimes. Occasional gut rot feeling.
If you've really binged alot then it's the heart racing and shortness of breath that can be frightening. Having trouble.focusing on.items and the feeling like you're going to have a frigging seizure. it's the worst feeling and one that ultimately made me never touch it again.
Im thankful my experience made me not have to endure even worse scenerios like others struggle with.
It's a terrible drug and I know too many people that have at one point or continue to ruin their Iives binging on this shit.
I wish I could explain why some people just can't say no even when they have lost their relationship, job, family trust and part of themselves to it.
and the next idiot that says it's because they are weak people, don't understand the power of addiction. It's a sad thing to witness an individual that would sell.off anything they own for more of that shit powder.
Stay away from it. nothing good will come of it.
Binthurr knows whats up, spot on
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I'm so over cryin, waitin and hopin playin the blame game
Your match is made, now stutter and quake, like you did cocaine
First off congratulations on the win
Sniffin cocaine like sarah palin
Whores, cocaine laws and sirens
I'm with your girlfriend eating chips
Doing cocaine, pretty dry on a church day
Young peyton don't huddle, still run my play
Got hu women frostburg women
"instead, sniff some of this cocaine, it's fun;
I was broken almost took cocaine
Can't control the box, you are no mills lane
So you should move away, or join the dude 'n play
Doing cocaine, pretty dry on a church day
I'm babe ruth in this game, beige coupe in the lane
But now i'm thinkin ima buy cocaine
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Best feeling in the world until you crash off of it. Sex on coke is at a different level. Massive peer pressure as people on coke want to share while high. Like everything else, you need to find clean ways to feel good or your life is fucked.
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;D
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Binthurr knows whats up, spot on
Maybe we just had powdered caffeine. It was kind of like this thread tho. Everyone saying GREAT HUH? I was like ... yeah...
I'm not really a euphoria guy.
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That's true for a lot of things. When I got of of the first rehab last year, I made quite a few thousand pretty quick.. Thinking "well, I've got my bills taken care of for an few months, I could probably afford 6grams right now and its probably last me 2 months because I'd only do 2 shots a day and never 3 days in a row... This time"..... The good thing was/is I had no way to get hold of anything, & is get sick from Tylenol before I felt anything from Vicodin or Percocet (I've taken 30 each before and felt nothing).
You are a 6 gram person i see.
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If he isn't having to get it on tick or borrow for it he can really only help himself. It's near impossible to help things like that from the outside when they have all the necessary means.
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Rivers of money have a way of not flowing forever. Dude's going to want to shoot himself in the head one day when he adds up how much cheddar he blew on it.
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Maybe we just had powdered caffeine. It was kind of like this thread tho. Everyone saying GREAT HUH? I was like ... yeah...
I'm not really a euphoria guy.
If we racked up a few lines of Columbia's finest on a couple of Perth beach-honey's arseholes you'd change your tune BigTape..Let me know when you're ready, I'll come out of retirement.
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If coffee and cocaine seem like the same thing to you then you didn't do good coke and frankly it's retarded to even suggest all it does is wake you up.
anyone who's done great cocaine, knows this.
It's euphoric. it's gives the user a feeling of added confidence and a sense of super well being. a sexual hightness.
That's how it starts anyway, then when youbstart hitting abuse levels, you're dick shrivels into a raisin, you could wind up shitting and pissing every 5 minutes sometimes. Occasional gut rot feeling.
If you've really binged alot then it's the heart racing and shortness of breath that can be frightening. Having trouble.focusing on.items and the feeling like you're going to have a frigging seizure. it's the worst feeling and one that ultimately made me never touch it again.
Im thankful my experience made me not have to endure even worse scenerios like others struggle with.
It's a terrible drug and I know too many people that have at one point or continue to ruin their Iives binging on this shit.
I wish I could explain why some people just can't say no even when they have lost their relationship, job, family trust and part of themselves to it.
and the next idiot that says it's because they are weak people, don't understand the power of addiction. It's a sad thing to witness an individual that would sell.off anything they own for more of that shit powder.
Stay away from it. nothing good will come of it.
Simply not good coke isnt true. Not all ppl respond to it the same way. I could say the same thing about somebody saying they nod off and get sick off 200mg heroin.. I could say "ahh that stuf mustve been cut with fentanyl" because id shoot 800-900mg IV or 1200-1500mg IM and be wide awake and nobody would know i was on it. Coke i got was from a cartel boss and was the same coke he was doing and the same stuff others were doing and they were high as fuck. Luckily i never had the same reaction to it.. No way id ever consider paying 180-280/day for it like i did with black.
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If we racked up a few lines of Columbia's finest on a couple of Perth beach-honey's arseholes you'd change your tune BigTape..Let me know when you're ready, I'll come out of retirement.
Got it in writing!
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Simply not good coke isnt true. Not all ppl respond to it the same way. I could say the same thing about somebody saying they nod off and get sick off 200mg heroin.. I could say "ahh that stuf mustve been cut with fentanyl" because id shoot 800-900mg IV or 1200-1500mg IM and be wide awake and nobody would know i was on it. Coke i got was from a cartel boss and was the same coke he was doing and the same stuff others were doing and they were high as fuck. Luckily i never had the same reaction to it.. No way id ever consider paying 180-280/day for it like i did with black.
ok you're the drugs superman. you win.
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To anyone who has ever used or abused this, what is the draw? One of my best mates is so far addicted (30+ grams a week) but he can afford it so hasn't that financial incentive to quit. I have tried it in the past and didn't get much off it and I'm not a drinker so didn't use it so I could party all weekend like some do. He's really going to do himself some damage as it's gone on almost a year now at that level, sometimes more. Any tips on how to help him, taking into account his lifestyle allows him to take as much of it as he wants every day.
He will stop when circumstances, personal desire or ruin force him to and not before :-\
You are not powerless in that you could force something in that list, but you might not make things better.
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Had to stop drinking cause after 3 or 4 drinks I would grab some and nothing would get in my way!! Sucks cause I miss drinking!!
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ok you're the drugs superman. you win.
he wins at everything, there isnt a single thing on this earth that he hasnt done better than anyone else.
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At first it was The House of Whores then it became The House of Horrors.
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All shits and giggles until the sun barges in.
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Trust me,I`ve injected it,smoked it,and snorted up Peru...........the shit will ruin your life.
Anyone here that is even the least bit health conscience should steer clear of this poison.
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Base it.
Snorting is total waste of $$$.
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Trust me,I`ve injected it,smoked it,and snorted up Peru...........the shit will ruin your life.
Anyone here that is even the least bit health conscience should steer clear of this poison.
All true.