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No stress on liver or kidneys ...but is it too weak ?
Doctor speaks on it
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No. Simply because it is faked so much and you wouldn't be using real primo anyway.
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No. Simply because it is faked so much and you wouldn't be using real primo anyway.
How can you tell or get the real one then ?
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An Amateur bodybuilder from the 70's told me that Arnold himself was running just primoboland during the summer this picture was taken .
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=528496.0;attach=724522;image)
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Real Primo is expensive so when sources are selling it at the same price as test then you know its fake. Same with var. They sell it at the same price as other orals when it's like 10X more expensive. Primo is weak though so to get an effective dose means taking a lot which then becomes toxic like any other drug.
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A 'doctor', LOL
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How can you tell or get the real one then ?
WoooSHHHHHHHHHH
To be honest, you can't tell anymore. Not since the SRSC was shut down years ago, there is no where you can send a sample for testing.
That said, I have posted on here that for the past 6 years all my cycles were nothing more than test and primo. I use the 200mg Primo by Geneza. Since I know Naps on a personal level, I tend to believe (and hope - LOL) that he wouldn't shit me on it.
When I was in Uni in Atlanta a lot of the locals got primo from this guy that would travel to Egypt and purchase a box (2 amps) for less than $1USD and mail it back to the US. (Had to cross over into Jordan to do it though, can't mail shit from Egypt back) Then he was charge $25 for one box.
Real Primo is expensive so when sources are selling it at the same price as test then you know its fake. Same with var. They sell it at the same price as other orals when it's like 10X more expensive. Primo is weak though so to get an effective dose means taking a lot which then becomes toxic like any other drug.
They don't even bother to lower the cost for this exact reason. If it's "too cheap" then it must be fake. So they just price that vial of weak test prop/eq at $90 and up all the newbies think that because it is expensive it must be real. Since they never had real primo before, they don't know the difference.
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To be honest, you can't tell anymore. Not since the SRSC was shut down years ago, there is no where you can send a sample for testing.
That said, I have posted on here that for the past 6 years all my cycles were nothing more than test and primo. I use the 200mg Primo by Geneza. Since I know Naps on a personal level, I tend to believe (and hope - LOL) that he wouldn't shit me on it.
When I was in Uni in Atlanta a lot of the locals got primo from this guy that would travel to Egypt and purchase a box (2 amps) for less than $1USD and mail it back to the US. (Had to cross over into Jordan to do it though, can't mail shit from Egypt back) Then he was charge $25 for one box.
They don't even bother to lower the cost for this exact reason. If it's "too cheap" then it must be fake. So they just price that vial of weak test prop/eq at $90 and up all the newbies think that because it is expensive it must be real. Since they never had real primo before, they don't know the difference.
X2.
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Back in the day I started with Anavar. Graduated to adding D.Bol and deca for shows. Now I would only do TRT with a script.
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(usual old fart warning applies)
Mid '90s I used to be able to get hold of the Schering Redi-ject version. During that period (pre internet) a lot of the stuff we saw came from someone who worked for the UN and used to knock off the stuff destined for starving areas of the world - nice.....
The preloaded rediject came with a pin that I swear was 1/8" across! Used to decant the stuff into my own barrels and use a green pin. Pretty sure it was 100mg/ml so I had to pin a larger amount (cc) than I'd prefer...
My one vaguely useful tip might be that it gave the worst PIP I ever had. I used to prefer quad sites, but this one I just had to stick in the butt... (Then again, I only ever used about 5 or 6 compounds so wtf do I know...)
(so close to posting an old 'Primo' pic before I realised that was the 'old guy taking pictures out of his wallet' thing in real life LOL)
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I don't see a Dr. Huge in my network. Does he take Aetna?
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Primo 50mg tabs were awesome!
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An Amateur bodybuilder from the 70's told me that Arnold himself was running just primoboland during the summer this picture was taken .
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=528496.0;attach=724522;image)
WoooSHHHHHHH
That picture was taken right before the 1975 Mr. Olympia. You can see the "Pumping Iron" camera crew in the background.
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Primo 50mg tabs were awesome!
x10, well worth it.
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Primo 50mg tabs were awesome!
Not available anymore ?
WooShhhhhh
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That picture was taken right before the 1975 Mr. Olympia. You can see the "Pumping Iron" camera crew in the background.
Nice catch!
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Primo 50mg tabs were awesome!
Normally injectables are more anabolic. Are primo tabs an exception?
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All pics taken same day " Primobolan days " anecdote
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Primo acetate tabs 50 mg 30 tabs per bottle, they were very exceptional back in the 90s clean looking muscle with no water bloat.
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... Dianabol days.
Pharmaceutic Primo was a very safe product, mild androgenic, during the seventies / eighties. I will not trust this product now.
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A 'doctor', LOL
Dr Huge and Dr Phil. Sounds like a porno.
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LOL all these idiots talking about all this exotic drug/combo yet they all look like shit. how about some real training and diet?
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(usual old fart warning applies)
Mid '90s I used to be able to get hold of the Schering Redi-ject version. During that period (pre internet) a lot of the stuff we saw came from someone who worked for the UN and used to knock off the stuff destined for starving areas of the world - nice.....
The preloaded rediject came with a pin that I swear was 1/8" across! Used to decant the stuff into my own barrels and use a green pin. Pretty sure it was 100mg/ml so I had to pin a larger amount (cc) than I'd prefer...
My one vaguely useful tip might be that it gave the worst PIP I ever had. I used to prefer quad sites, but this one I just had to stick in the butt... (Then again, I only ever used about 5 or 6 compounds so wtf do I know...)
(so close to posting an old 'Primo' pic before I realised that was the 'old guy taking pictures out of his wallet' thing in real life LOL)
I actually experienced the "old guy taking the pictures out of his wallet" in real life in my gym back in the 80s. I vowed never to be like that fellow.
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Primo acetate tabs 50 mg 30 tabs per bottle, they were very exceptional back in the 90s clean looking muscle with no water bloat.
That's it! 30 per and they were in a little glass vial. I only used them once and boy did my physique change. I've haven't seen them in a longtime.
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Pharma s4 tho
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I don't see a Dr. Huge in my network. Does he take Aetna?
that was funny - 2 points
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An Amateur bodybuilder from the 70's told me that Arnold himself was running just primoboland during the summer this picture was taken .
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=528496.0;attach=724522;image)
WoooSHHHHHHH
thanks for the pic -
awesome shit. makes me want to get the encyclopedia of bodybuilding book out
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To be honest, you can't tell anymore. Not since the SRSC was shut down years ago, there is no where you can send a sample for testing.
That said, I have posted on here that for the past 6 years all my cycles were nothing more than test and primo. I use the 200mg Primo by Geneza. Since I know Naps on a personal level, I tend to believe (and hope - LOL) that he wouldn't shit me on it.
When I was in Uni in Atlanta a lot of the locals got primo from this guy that would travel to Egypt and purchase a box (2 amps) for less than $1USD and mail it back to the US. (Had to cross over into Jordan to do it though, can't mail shit from Egypt back) Then he was charge $25 for one box.
They don't even bother to lower the cost for this exact reason. If it's "too cheap" then it must be fake. So they just price that vial of weak test prop/eq at $90 and up all the newbies think that because it is expensive it must be real. Since they never had real primo before, they don't know the difference.
Ive had a primo and it gave me pretty bad PIP at 100mg. Cant imagine 200mg per ml.
Also heard that injectable primo ace is the most painful shit ever.
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They're still primobolan Orals available online that can do the job just as good that the ones in the 80's.
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This site claims to have tested Primo:
https://anaboliclab.com/lab-results/steroid-name/methenolone-enanthate/
If the results are to be believed there's plenty of real methenolone on the market.
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This site claims to have tested Primo:
https://anaboliclab.com/lab-results/steroid-name/methenolone-enanthate/
If the results are to be believed there's plenty of real methenolone on the market.
Saw that site before. By providing these lab results they're even doing a better job than eroids.com
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Ive had a primo and it gave me pretty bad PIP at 100mg. Cant imagine 200mg per ml.
Also heard that injectable primo ace is the most painful shit ever.
Naps uses the MCT oil for his. Very thin and it doesn't have any more pain than mild test prop. Primo is known for PIP a bit no matter what brand. Even legit Schein. Which is why labs substitute test prop for it a lot. Test Prop has some pain too.
They're still primobolan Orals available online that can do the job just as good that the ones in the 80's.
If people really wanted to do oral primo it would be better to order the raw powder and cap it yourself or get a pill press I suppose.
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Saw that site before. By providing these lab results they're even doing a better job than eroids.com
Do you mean that anabolicslab is also a shill fake site?
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My first anabolic was 15 mgs. of CIBA D-Bol..........grew like a weed, and got as strong shit.
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LOL all these idiots talking about all this exotic drug/combo yet they all look like shit. how about some real training and diet?
good point they all do look pretty shitty
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Do you mean that anabolicslab is also a shill fake site?
Whatever nancy..
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They're still primobolan Orals available online that can do the job just as good that the ones in the 80's.
I'll have to look into this. Thanks
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I'll have to look into this. Thanks
Welcome
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This site claims to have tested Primo:
https://anaboliclab.com/lab-results/steroid-name/methenolone-enanthate/
If the results are to be believed there's plenty of real methenolone on the market.
You cannot trust this site. That website owner could be the one making/shilling all these fakes and claiming they are legit. People are so naïve.
90% of the primo on the black market today is NOT primo.
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You cannot trust this site. That website owner could be the one making/shilling all these fakes and claiming they are legit. People are so naïve.
90% of the primo on the black market today is NOT primo.
Their lab reports look pretty legit to me (example (https://anaboliclab.com/community/media/pharmacom-labs-pharma-prim-100-lab-report-november-17-2016.210/)), plus they have a feedback section for users.
When in doubt you can always Google the product and see what other sources have to say. One batch result could not be representative for all their batches, but it's a step in the right direction.
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even the QV primo tabs were good
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You cannot trust this site. That website owner could be the one making/shilling all these fakes and claiming they are legit. People are so naïve.
90% of the primo on the black market today is NOT primo.
You could be right. Though the one sending in the sample must have access to real methenolone and not from Schering either as some product here was 150mg/ml or a methenolone/testosterone mix for example. So real Chinese methenolone powder is available. Unless the lab itself is corrupt. I don't know. Only one of the Primos was off, contained only 4mg/ml.
I know some on this forum claim there's no real tren available anywhere either as it's all testosterone, but that is clearly BS as anyone who has used both knows.
Llewellyn has test kits available but those don't tell the concentration, only detects the presence of a particular steroid.
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Primo costs just over 4x what tren and masteron costs to produce, and 20-25x what test costs to produce.. Typical profit margins is about 25x for test and about 10x for tren/mast/var... So even at 5-6x profit, you're stillnlookinba $155-185/10cc 100mg/cc primo A or E..., most suppliers won't bother selling something they're making just 50% of the profit margin on even the more expensive & higher cost to produce drugs like tren,var,& masteron, and if they sold it at a comparable profit margin, say even 7/8x, you're looking at a bottle of primo costing $200+, more like $220-240. Most people wouldnt pay that for primo.
Only way id supply primo would be as a favor to a regular customer who was getting ready for a show or something., in addition to their regular order (same with halotestin and cheque drops),& even then it's cost about 110-120/bottle if they bought 10-15 bottles worth (say for 10-15 weeks at about a gram a week or more)... Suppliers seling it regular price at 100/bottle? Its either 50% of label claim, or more likely it's gonna be Masteron Diprop. Mostbsuppliers would sell test as primo because then side effects wouldn't be the same. With masteron, you're not getting water retention or aromatization (like with primo) and 30mg master on would give similar results as 100mg primo. And now you're not as likely to get test or we sold as primo because of the "roid tests" on the market (so you may get 10mg primo and 30mg masteron per cc, so at least the test will show there's primo in the bottle). Same goes with masteron. Youll likely get wins from because it doesn't aromatics and you'll get an similar visual result (both are dht derived), you may get a combo of wins from and anavar, or best case you'll get wins from and methyltrienolone. Anavar also you'll get wins from and maybe dbol in a dose low enough to not get much water mention. Compare this all to a supplement company selling whey isolate and concentrate labeled as Hydronwhey or proto-pro.
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My first anabolic was 15 mgs. of CIBA D-Bol..........grew like a weed, and got as strong shit.
The best. I was benching 315 for 10 reps at 192 on 20 mgs.of Ciba D-Bol. Started it just before I started dieting for a show. I was a shit bencher and 315 felt like nothing. I did a single for 350 and a couple forced reps. Will never forget that feeling.
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The best. I was benching 315 for 10 reps at 192 on 20 mgs.of Ciba D-Bol. Started it just before I started dieting for a show. I was a shit bencher and 315 felt like nothing. I did a single for 350 and a couple forced reps. Will never forget that feeling.
Did you keep any of the strength afterwards?
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Ive had a primo and it gave me pretty bad PIP at 100mg. Cant imagine 200mg per ml.
Also heard that injectable primo ace is the most painful shit ever.
^^^ This is exactly what I was saying
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Saw that site before. By providing these lab results they're even doing a better job than eroids.com
You had the totally unsolicited email too then...?
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Primo costs just over 4x what tren and masteron costs to produce, and 20-25x what test costs to produce.. Typical profit margins is about 25x for test and about 10x for tren/mast/var... So even at 5-6x profit, you're stillnlookinba $155-185/10cc 100mg/cc primo A or E..., most suppliers won't bother selling something they're making just 50% of the profit margin on even the more expensive & higher cost to produce drugs like tren,var,& masteron, and if they sold it at a comparable profit margin, say even 7/8x, you're looking at a bottle of primo costing $200+, more like $220-240. Most people wouldnt pay that for primo.
Only way id supply primo would be as a favor to a regular customer who was getting ready for a show or something., in addition to their regular order (same with halotestin and cheque drops),& even then it's cost about 110-120/bottle if they bought 10-15 bottles worth (say for 10-15 weeks at about a gram a week or more)... Suppliers seling it regular price at 100/bottle? Its either 50% of label claim, or more likely it's gonna be Masteron Diprop. Mostbsuppliers would sell test as primo because then side effects wouldn't be the same. With masteron, you're not getting water retention or aromatization (like with primo) and 30mg master on would give similar results as 100mg primo. And now you're not as likely to get test or we sold as primo because of the "roid tests" on the market (so you may get 10mg primo and 30mg masteron per cc, so at least the test will show there's primo in the bottle). Same goes with masteron. Youll likely get wins from because it doesn't aromatics and you'll get an similar visual result (both are dht derived), you may get a combo of wins from and anavar, or best case you'll get wins from and methyltrienolone. Anavar also you'll get wins from and maybe dbol in a dose low enough to not get much water mention. Compare this all to a supplement company selling whey isolate and concentrate labeled as Hydronwhey or proto-pro.
Would you call bullshit on those tests on anaboliclab? All except one were pretty much spot on.
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You had the totally unsolicited email too then...?
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Would you call bullshit on those tests on anaboliclab? All except one were pretty much spot on.
No clue. I dont pay much attention to what other labs are doing or selling. Just focus on my own stuff. Perhaps their connect or buying power is better than mine, but my connections are top notch and been with them for years.
Far as testing, not saying they or anyone else are doing this, but if i were shady and knew that someone was gonna test my stuff or if i was gonna supply modsnat a board to garner referals, id get them stuff from lot #s that were 100% spot on.
For instance if i were launching a new "brand" & wanted to generate a buzz, id do something like.
Lot 1-3 100-110% dosed
Lots 4-7 80%
Lots 8-12 60%
Lots 13-20 30%
Lots 21- the end sales burned to zero and rumors of bunk shit 5% just to "test pos" for active ingredient.
Then relaunch with another new brand/lab and repeat. Similar with what happened with kigs or balkan.
Or, just alternate between 3 months of 90% accurate and 20% accurate label claims just so when word got aroundbthat shit was spot on and customers start rolling in, switch up to weak shit. Keeping record of initial customers and keeping them with 100%.shit so they stay loyal and them backing the product. And soon as overwelming opinion that stuffnwas bunk, start putting out 100% legitnstuff to generate arguments and have overwelming maj opinion that thenstuff was good, and having 30% customers 100% backing the product with another 70% getting crap.
Just like the kigs gh15 scam.
Personally, im a long term guy. Id rather make 10k a month over 10yrs than 20k a month for 2yrs or whatever and having to relaunch and rebrand. That just sounds like a pain in the ass and you never develope solid businessn elationships because you never know when thenwheelanwill fall off and you need a favor. Ive got guys ive delt with for 5+ years, ex-ifbb guys who trust the stuff 100% & dont even care if product comes with no label.
Look at IP back in the day.. Shipping oils in ketchup bottles and stuff or instructions to chew a tab twice and hold between your gums n cheek. Nobody would trust a fly by night Co with that now, but they did then cuz hed been aroundnfor a long long time.. Since the says of MM2K and Gherkes and SBC. Or redi-cat with paper stuff. Now nobody would trust getting graph paper thinkingbthere was 5mg winstrol per square.
Its like trusting your money with bear-sterns vs. A bucket shop boiler room. Bucket shop will give an initial return of 40% but who knows for how long b4 all your $s gone, where with Bear (now defunct) or goldman, you gotb15% indefinitely.
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All pharma companies get their raws from the same places.. Glaxxo, phizer, merek, etc... As do raw suppliers. Theres always a supply chain.
Raw suppliers A and B get their stuff from the same guy/girl while supplier A may charge 10% more for product 123 and 5% less for priduct 456,& supplier B may charge 7% less for product 123 andn11% more for product 456. Gives the impression that certian suppliers have better connections than others for certian products, but theyreball the same. Onlyndifference may be that a supplier doesnt have as much operating capital or sales volume so their prices may be higher to make up for it.. And as customer bases increase, they may lower costs or they may just think "well, ppl are paying it so we'll keep prices the same.". You can make money2 ways in business... Like a mom n pop store with low volume, high margin or like costco with high volume, low margin. Sell 10 at $10 vs. 20 at $5, profits the same... And business, where its sams club vs costco or it's alpha pharma vs. Balkin, is usually done with a gentlemans agreement on pricing so that there s enough for everybody.
Its a big big market.. A big pie. I dont want the whole pie, or even 2 pieces, i just want a small piece... And that smallnpiece is plenty. If i want more? Ill just launch another ugl and do the same thing and get 2pieces thatbway. Same was some raw suppliers oe peptide companies are owned by the same people.
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All pharma companies get their raws from the same places.. Glaxxo, phizer, merek, etc... As do raw suppliers. Theres always a supply chain.
I recall Llewellyn saying the steroid raws for UG labs are not coming from legitimate API suppliers
which the big pharmas use, they were made in UG labs unofficially since even China cracked down on steroids and GH (for example Jintropin) after
pressure from the US and WADA etc. What do you think?
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Did you keep any of the strength afterwards?
I started dieting for a show right after. I didn't train as heavy, did more reps, and sets. Got great pumps and started losing fat quickly. Sure if I wasn't dieting, would have gotten bigger and stronger.
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I started dieting for a show right after. I didn't train as heavy, did more reps, and sets. Got great pumps and started losing fat quickly. Sure if I wasn't dieting, would have gotten bigger and stronger.
These are the shots from that show.
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I recall Llewellyn saying the steroid raws for UG labs are not coming from legitimate API suppliers
which the big pharmas use, they were made in UG labs unofficially since even China cracked down on steroids and GH (for example Jintropin) after
pressure from the US and WADA etc. What do you think?
I seriously doubt it. Takes a lot of raw ingredients to produce the amount of raw pharma drugs, not to mention the equipment. The equipment alone would require a huge Initial investment. I just don't see a small non legit lab being able to supply consiatant kilos upon kilos of all the different products. I think the Chinese crackdown was just a flaah in the pan and just for show.
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Primo costs just over 4x what tren and masteron costs to produce, and 20-25x what test costs to produce.. Typical profit margins is about 25x for test and about 10x for tren/mast/var... So even at 5-6x profit, you're stillnlookinba $155-185/10cc 100mg/cc primo A or E..., most suppliers won't bother selling something they're making just 50% of the profit margin on even the more expensive & higher cost to produce drugs like tren,var,& masteron, and if they sold it at a comparable profit margin, say even 7/8x, you're looking at a bottle of primo costing $200+, more like $220-240. Most people wouldnt pay that for primo.
Only way id supply primo would be as a favor to a regular customer who was getting ready for a show or something., in addition to their regular order (same with halotestin and cheque drops),& even then it's cost about 110-120/bottle if they bought 10-15 bottles worth (say for 10-15 weeks at about a gram a week or more)... Suppliers seling it regular price at 100/bottle? Its either 50% of label claim, or more likely it's gonna be Masteron Diprop. Mostbsuppliers would sell test as primo because then side effects wouldn't be the same. With masteron, you're not getting water retention or aromatization (like with primo) and 30mg master on would give similar results as 100mg primo. And now you're not as likely to get test or we sold as primo because of the "roid tests" on the market (so you may get 10mg primo and 30mg masteron per cc, so at least the test will show there's primo in the bottle). Same goes with masteron. Youll likely get wins from because it doesn't aromatics and you'll get an similar visual result (both are dht derived), you may get a combo of wins from and anavar, or best case you'll get wins from and methyltrienolone. Anavar also you'll get wins from and maybe dbol in a dose low enough to not get much water mention. Compare this all to a supplement company selling whey isolate and concentrate labeled as Hydronwhey or proto-pro.
Pharmacom Primo = legit, but pricier.
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I seriously doubt it. Takes a lot of raw ingredients to produce the amount of raw pharma drugs, not to mention the equipment. The equipment alone would require a huge Initial investment. I just don't see a small non legit lab being able to supply consiatant kilos upon kilos of all the different products. I think the Chinese crackdown was just a flaah in the pan and just for show.
Well you now have Chinese "UG" labs producing gh of uneven quality. They have the the equipment but you can't trust the generics coming from China now. From what I know peptides are much harder to produce than steroids. Legit labs like Jintropin (forgot the brand name) were forced to stop large scale exports for the black market so gh black market production is now underground.
I suspect steroid manufacturing is the same as there are no legit/legal buyers for the stuff. At the very least, if the manufacturers are legit labs, the production is off-the-record. But I'd bet the labs are illegal. I mean China is shutting down UG labs producing ketamine and all sorts of rec and designer drugs all the time... so why couldn't UG labs produce hormones too?
But I have no real personal insight so I don't really know. I just remembered Llewellyn saying the black market hormones do not come from large legit API producers. They were made by "chemical houses" as he worded it. I also know even the legal "pro-steroids" used in supplements were and are often the wrong compound or contaminated with other hormones. If the producer was a legit large pharmaceutical manufacturer they would always be 100% on spec pretty much.
Edit. Found a Llewellyn quote:
"Underground labs are illegal unlicensed operations. It is not possible for these labs to directly purchase bulk pharmaceutical quality steroids to package for the public. Very few, if any, have the resources to obtain true USP (99+% tested pure) materials. Fewer still would spend the money on these materials even if they could obtain them, as they are very expensive.
Instead, underground labs obtain their drugs (99%) from unlicensed Chinese brokers. The thing you need to understand about China is that it has a strong regulated drug market. The U.S. buys a lot of real drugs from China. HOWEVER - The steroids we are talking about are very very rarely produced at pharmaceutical facilities.
The VAST MAJORITY of bulk steroids coming from China are produced in chemical companies. Imagine if you will a company that makes pesticides, synthetic dyes, or other manufacturing-level chemicals, and one day said, "You know what, we can make steroids in here if we want". These chemical companies are not licensed to produce drugs, and do not have to comply with even the minimal of GMP guidelines. They are not inspected. Rarely do they have the capacity to produce very pure products. Still, they very often do produce drugs. In fact, it is estimated that HALF of all drugs sold in China come from this illegal chemical market. This number is significantly higher with anabolic steroids."
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I dunno... But where I get my stuff also produces a shitton of other stuff, not just anabolics, and all my stuff has tested as what its supposed to be. Never had a single problem with anything ever. If I did ever have an issue I'd switch suppliers. Everything has melted at proper temps with nothing melting or burning b4 or after the melt point, despite me using hot plates and i
IR thermometers.(had discussions with pat Arnold regarding this not being accurate and himbsuggestingbi pick up the appropriate stuff and sending me the links and pics of what it is and where to get it. But I haven't had a need for it yet.)if the stuff was dirty in any way is have had somebody get an infection by now for sure, after all these years and customers doing what must be thousands ofninjections (myself included).
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What is the REAL problem is most "sites" are only in USA or Europe, there is NOTHING inside CANADA!!!
Nobody wants to get in trouble with the customs authorities, or attract the attention of the police but shit why not have inside shipping in CANADA??
What about us Canadian BB's???????
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For some reason this thread has me asking, whatever happened to that french canadian guy BLP?
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For some reason this thread has me asking, whatever happened to that french canadian guy BLP?
He's working as a PT with posture correction techniques as a specialization.
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What is the REAL problem is most "sites" are only in USA or Europe, there is NOTHING inside CANADA!!!
Nobody wants to get in trouble with the customs authorities, or attract the attention of the police but shit why not have inside shipping in CANADA??
What about us Canadian BB's???????
That's because Canada treats anyone from outside the country with even the smallest legal offense as a felon... So you can't enter Canada... Fuck that shithole!!!! Canada can suck my nuts!!!
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He's working as a PT with posture correction techniques as a specialization.
His fb post got weirder and weirder about those postural bro science stuff, i just unfollowed him
Hes a good guy but im afraid he has a few loose screws
I remember him trying to bulk on a keto diet or doing cardio with high rep deadlift lol
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His fb post got weirder and weirder about those postural bro science stuff, i just unfollowed him
Hes a good guy but im afraid he has a few loose screws
I remember him trying to bulk on a keto diet or doing cardio with high rep deadlift lol
Started to remind me of meth ramblings.one Jeff McFarlands in 04/05 after he met Scott in Canoga park and had mike Morris stay with him when mike visited l.a.
Kinda ironic that antionne valiant has been in and out of rehab the past 1? 2 years?
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His fb post got weirder and weirder about those postural bro science stuff, i just unfollowed him
Hes a good guy but im afraid he has a few loose screws
I remember him trying to bulk on a keto diet or doing cardio with high rep deadlift lol
Life seems like a giant lab to him, a place where you can run all kinds of tests with training, nutrition, chemistry, etc..
He's def a good guy, but also a nutty freethinker.
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Life seems like a giant lab to him, a place where you can run all kinds of tests with training, nutrition, chemistry, etc..
He's def a good guy, but also a nutty freethinker.
theres a saying that goes something like tthis
to be a leader you must 1st turn your back on the crowd
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His fb post got weirder and weirder about those postural bro science stuff, i just unfollowed him
Hes a good guy but im afraid he has a few loose screws
I remember him trying to bulk on a keto diet or doing cardio with high rep deadlift lol
He's been weird for as long as I've seen him on the net. Posts were always rambling word salads. There's no science in the therapies he's doing. I have nothing against him but he is insane.
Remember this Lol
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theres a saying that goes something like tthis
to be a leader you must 1st turn your back on the crowd
Did it worked for you? No
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Did it worked for you? No
i don't do Iit to be a leader
i do it to be an individual and I've often been told that I'm one of a kind
check my sig
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I don't know how you guys inject something from the black market? Back it the day they came right out of the pharmacy from legit pharmaceutical labs. It's ridiculous hearing guys say their illegal black market stuff is tested. Who is testing that crap? Most of this stuff is coming out of China. Could be mixed with the broom they used to clean the shop at the end of the day. A lot of these vials are straight testosterone with impurities making it different colors. No one is getting real anavar, dianabol, winstrol, equipose, Anadrol 50, Deca and all the rest. Remember back in the day guys would take one Anadrol 50. Insane guys would take 2 and it worked miracles. Now guys are popping 4 with a boat load of other stuff and the results are crap and bloat. They are just packaged to counterfeit. How hard is it for a Chinese factory to counterfeit a box and an insert paper work? Something is going on with these drugs. Bodybuilders look like crap today.
Train natural and f$%k this stupid activity called bodybuilding based on drug use.
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i don't do Iit to be a leader
i do it to be an individual and I've often been told that I'm one of a kind
check my sig
Oh wow, you're so special
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Primo is ok, just stay away from creatine. That stuff will give roid rage.
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I don't know how you guys inject something from the black market? Back it the day they came right out of the pharmacy from legit pharmaceutical labs. It's ridiculous hearing guys say their illegal black market stuff is tested. Who is testing that crap? Most of this stuff is coming out of China. Could be mixed with the broom they used to clean the shop at the end of the day. A lot of these vials are straight testosterone with impurities making it different colors. No one is getting real anavar, dianabol, winstrol, equipose, Anadrol 50, Deca and all the rest. Remember back in the day guys would take one Anadrol 50. Insane guys would take 2 and it worked miracles. Now guys are popping 4 with a boat load of other stuff and the results are crap and bloat. They are just packaged to counterfeit. How hard is it for a Chinese factory to counterfeit a box and an insert paper work? Something is going on with these drugs. Bodybuilders look like crap today.
Train natural and f$%k this stupid activity called bodybuilding based on drug use.
Saying there's no real steroids being made is utter bullshit.
The guy I quoted, and who said he recommends NOT using black market drugs, nevertheless has tested tons of drugs himself, for active steroids and bacterial and moisture content, found a lot of accurately labeled drugs.
So there's a ton of steroids available. It's just that you don't have the assurances you get with Western prescription drugs and there might be contaminants. Look at the pros today, you think that's just test? Lol.
Please post pics of guys from back in the day on one anadrol a day. Then compare to Rami or Heath or Roelly. Most 80's guys are smaller than the "natural" fitness guys today. Look at Pumping Iron, those guys wouldn't even place in physique Olympia. Smooth as fuck with not much size either.
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Saying there's no real steroids being made is utter bullshit.
The guy I quoted, and who said he recommends NOT using black market drugs, nevertheless has tested tons of drugs himself, for active steroids and bacterial and moisture content, found a lot of accurately labeled drugs.
So there's a ton of steroids available. It's just that you don't have the assurances you get with Western prescription drugs and there might be contaminants. Look at the pros today, you think that's just test? Lol.
Please post pics of guys from back in the day on one anadrol a day. Then compare to Rami or Heath or Roelly. Most 80's guys are smaller than the "natural" fitness guys today. Look at Pumping Iron, those guys wouldn't even place in physique Olympia. Smooth as fuck with not much size either.
the females nowadays got much better asses than even in the 90s
do you attribute that to drug usage/science?
I'd say it's more due to ass training emphasis and focus, as a lot of the ass goddesses appear to be completely natty
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I don't know how you guys inject something from the black market? Back it the day they came right out of the pharmacy from legit pharmaceutical labs. It's ridiculous hearing guys say their illegal black market stuff is tested. Who is testing that crap? Most of this stuff is coming out of China. Could be mixed with the broom they used to clean the shop at the end of the day. A lot of these vials are straight testosterone with impurities making it different colors. No one is getting real anavar, dianabol, winstrol, equipose, Anadrol 50, Deca and all the rest. Remember back in the day guys would take one Anadrol 50. Insane guys would take 2 and it worked miracles. Now guys are popping 4 with a boat load of other stuff and the results are crap and bloat. They are just packaged to counterfeit. How hard is it for a Chinese factory to counterfeit a box and an insert paper work? Something is going on with these drugs. Bodybuilders look like crap today.
Train natural and f$%k this stupid activity called bodybuilding based on drug use.
Absolutely incorrect.
There is absolutely real anabolics available. Ive had clients/customers that include ex-ifbb pros who've been using stuff since the 80s and have lived in europe and yhe middle east where legit stuff is easily obtained and I'll take the pepsi-challenge any day... And usually my stuff doesnt have a fancy $.06 label with a $.02 hollogram and never with a $.04 box or $.09 flip-top (i use the same pre-sealed, pre-sterilized 10cc RLS vials that the compounding pharmacy down the road uses). The ONLY people who have issues with are the mexicans/pisas who buy Viagra/sildenafil for whatever reason. Must be because they're around people who scam people often so they assume everybody scams people. Just like tweaker/meth-addicts are always quick to accuse people they see on tv of being on meth while the thought never crosses the mind of normal people.
Companies stay in business because of word of mouth. The market will always weed out and eliminate the companies with underdosed, bunk, or dirty products. You'll learn that during the first week of 'intro to economics' at community college.
And btw, far as Anadrol is concerned, the recommended dose for an 80lb CHILD with anemia (i.e. ILL in POOR health & compromised immune system) is 300-450mg/day for a MINIMUM of 6-9months... And a 200lb adult bodybuilder (in GOOD health overall) freaks out at using 150-200mg for 6 weeks.
Ignorance, bro-science, & people just repeating shit they've read on the interwebs without experience or any effort to fact-check.
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These are the shots from that show.
Should have done some porn.
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Primo is ok, just stay away from creatine. That stuff will give roid rage.
LOL wooshhhhhhh
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Absolutely incorrect.
There is absolutely real anabolics available. Ive had clients/customers that include ex-ifbb pros who've been using stuff since the 80s and have lived in europe and yhe middle east where legit stuff is easily obtained and I'll take the pepsi-challenge any day... And usually my stuff doesnt have a fancy $.06 label with a $.02 hollogram and never with a $.04 box or $.09 flip-top (i use the same pre-sealed, pre-sterilized 10cc RLS vials that the compounding pharmacy down the road uses). The ONLY people who have issues with are the mexicans/pisas who buy Viagra/sildenafil for whatever reason. Must be because they're around people who scam people often so they assume everybody scams people. Just like tweaker/meth-addicts are always quick to accuse people they see on tv of being on meth while the thought never crosses the mind of normal people.
Companies stay in business because of word of mouth. The market will always weed out and eliminate the companies with underdosed, bunk, or dirty products. You'll learn that during the first week of 'intro to economics' at community college.
And btw, far as Anadrol is concerned, the recommended dose for an 80lb CHILD with anemia (i.e. ILL in POOR health & compromised immune system) is 300-450mg/day for a MINIMUM of 6-9months... And a 200lb adult bodybuilder (in GOOD health overall) freaks out at using 150-200mg for 6 weeks.
Ignorance, bro-science, & people just repeating shit they've read on the interwebs without experience or any effort to fact-check.
Actually MOST of the stuff on the UGL market is fine. People know quick if a lab is bunk.
What happens a lot is a good lab starts putting out bunk shit, scam people and disapear then same people make another lab...
Sometimes anavar get swaped with winstrol, primo with masteron or eq...
But its actually pretty rare to have an oil that has nothing in it. From the lab test i see a lot of times stuff is actually overdosed, especially cheap compounds like test.
The reputation of an UGL is everything. People are willing to pay more for a good brand (pharmacom anyone ?)
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Should have done some porn.
Because of the pornstache?
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Because of the pornstache?
:)
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Should have done some porn.
Have my own private collection.
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These are the shots from that show.
Now that is a f**king excellent and desirable physique (sorry if that sounds creepy LOL - you know what I mean!)
Respect to Ronnie Rep 8)
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Now that is a f**king excellent and desirable physique (sorry if that sounds creepy LOL - you know what I mean!)
Respect to Ronnie Rep 8)
Thanks brother.
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Absolutely incorrect.
There is absolutely real anabolics available. Ive had clients/customers that include ex-ifbb pros who've been using stuff since the 80s and have lived in europe and yhe middle east where legit stuff is easily obtained and I'll take the pepsi-challenge any day... And usually my stuff doesnt have a fancy $.06 label with a $.02 hollogram and never with a $.04 box or $.09 flip-top (i use the same pre-sealed, pre-sterilized 10cc RLS vials that the compounding pharmacy down the road uses). The ONLY people who have issues with are the mexicans/pisas who buy Viagra/sildenafil for whatever reason. Must be because they're around people who scam people often so they assume everybody scams people. Just like tweaker/meth-addicts are always quick to accuse people they see on tv of being on meth while the thought never crosses the mind of normal people.
Companies stay in business because of word of mouth. The market will always weed out and eliminate the companies with underdosed, bunk, or dirty products. You'll learn that during the first week of 'intro to economics' at community college.
And btw, far as Anadrol is concerned, the recommended dose for an 80lb CHILD with anemia (i.e. ILL in POOR health & compromised immune system) is 300-450mg/day for a MINIMUM of 6-9months... And a 200lb adult bodybuilder (in GOOD health overall) freaks out at using 150-200mg for 6 weeks.
Ignorance, bro-science, & people just repeating shit they've read on the interwebs without experience or any effort to fact-check.
hahahaha admitting selling steroids on an open board where everyone knows who you are and have had your photos posted.
fucking loon.
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hahahaha admitting selling steroids on an open board where everyone knows who you are and have had your photos posted.
fucking loon.
Grasping at straws. Your obsession with me is pathetic
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hahahaha admitting selling steroids on an open board where everyone knows who you are and have had your photos posted.
fucking loon.
Grasping at straws. Your obsession with me is pathetic
;D
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Grasping at straws. Your obsession with me is pathetic
agree with you anadrol point, even tho ive never used