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Title: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: True Sport Supplements on April 05, 2006, 09:23:52 PM
You would think that with the bodybuilding industry moving online, Wayne would set up a website to help draw attention to it. After all, we don't expect to see bodybuilding.com dedicate server space for it. haha
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 05, 2006, 09:26:22 PM
it's on the way.

until then:

www.prodivisionbodybuild ing.com
www.londonisburning.com
www.vgalanti.com
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 05, 2006, 09:33:18 PM
Wayne's trying to come up with the $300!

LMAO
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: True Sport Supplements on April 05, 2006, 09:36:44 PM
Wayne's trying to come up with the $300!

Oh, so they'll be using the same designer as the IFBB for their website then, huh?  ;D
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 05, 2006, 09:59:54 PM
Oh, so they'll be using the same designer as the IFBB for their website then, huh?  ;D

The IFBB paid $300 Canadian $.

That won't buy you a new pair of Jordans here in the US.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: True Sport Supplements on April 05, 2006, 10:03:13 PM
Who needs NEW Jordan's when my '88's still fit just fine.  ;D I think the IFBB website is as old as the internet itself, without a single update!
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: onlyme on April 05, 2006, 10:03:46 PM
The Official Website is www.prodivisioninc.com  it is on it way.  He has made several changes.  A major internet company is designing the site.  If you have seen the IFBB site just about anything will be better.  
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: irejistirred4deena on April 05, 2006, 10:06:38 PM
The IFBB paid $300 Canadian $.

That won't buy you a new pair of Jordans here in the US.

Jordans cost $260 bucks in the U.S.?  You're best of doing your shoe shopping north of the border.

Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 05, 2006, 10:10:38 PM
The Official Website is www.prodivisioninc.com  it is on it way.  He has made several changes.  A major internet company is designing the site.  If you have seen the IFBB site just about anything will be better. 

a major internet company? Why no love for the 240, MBA?
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: kmhphoto on April 05, 2006, 10:15:21 PM
The Official Website is www.prodivisioninc.com  it is on it way.  He has made several changes.  A major internet company is designing the site.  If you have seen the IFBB site just about anything will be better.  

Oh no, 240 is going to have a fit!
After all he's done for the PDI and Wayne personally (he should have swallowed and not spat)you'd think they'd at least give the kid a chance?
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: Lift Studios on April 05, 2006, 10:17:32 PM
240 - interesting that you're pimping your Mesorphosis affiliate link on all your sites and here at getbig. How's that affiliate program structured - per click or per puchase?

A little ironic to see the banner for the Arnold Classic and Jay Cutler's video on a PDI site.

 8)
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 05, 2006, 10:20:21 PM
Oh no, 240 is going to have a fit!
After all he's done for the PDI and Wayne personally (he should have swallowed and not spat)you'd think they'd at least give the kid a chance?


I'm sure 240, MBA is being retained as a consultant, at least. 
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: Lift Studios on April 05, 2006, 10:23:01 PM
I'm sure 240, MBA is being retained as a consultant, at least. 

I think there enough Master Bullshit Artists consulting with the PDI at the present time.

Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: kmhphoto on April 05, 2006, 10:26:18 PM
I think there enough Master Bullshit Artists consulting with the PDI at the present time.



PDI Athletes 2
PDI Sycophant's 3
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 05, 2006, 10:30:58 PM
Man, why d'y'all have to hate like that? 240, MBA is just trying to make a dolla (or 300).

So he stretches the truth a little and leaves (somewhat strange) nudie pics of himself laying around, but its all part of the genius of his promotion machine.

People all over the world right now are thinking that they want to be affiliated with this man (who sees tomorrow) and the organization he believes in.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 05, 2006, 10:31:26 PM
I love building sites, helping businesses grow, and working in promotions/marketing.

I am NOT a company man, by any means.  Honestly, any job at any firm would not be for me, including PDI.  I'm a hired gun.  It's 1:30 AM and I'm about to eat dinner and keep working late into the night.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: Bast175 on April 05, 2006, 10:32:20 PM


I am NOT a company man, by any means.

Why is that 240? 
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 05, 2006, 10:33:45 PM
Why is that 240? 

He has INTEGRITY, bro. He doesn't sell out. it's about getting the info out there to the people. once he does his job, he moves on. like clint eastwood characters, he's a hired gun. wait a minute, i have that backwards. never mind.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: True Sport Supplements on April 05, 2006, 10:34:15 PM
I bet he had fun putting up those scandelous pictures of Shelly. *shudders*
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 05, 2006, 10:35:37 PM
I tried to be.  I worked as a teacher, did the corporate thing at a law firm and a MIS firm.  Was bored and miserable.  Too much beaucracy, too many steps to find success.  When you can outperform your boss in a week, you start to wonder why you are making half of what he is earning.  University work was okay, but only after I started working by the task and stopped working hourly.  

now I'm in my recliner 12 hours a day, busting ass to stay ahead of this line of websites in my box.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: MisterMagoo on April 05, 2006, 10:37:55 PM
make a website the 240 way.

step one: charge client $300.

step two: google for some templates. http://www.google.com/search?q=website+templates

step three: pick one of the links. lets say this one. http://www.hypertemplates.com/

step four: skim through the flash files for something nice. this one looks okay http://www.hypertemplates.com/templates/10559.html. so does this one http://www.hypertemplates.com/templates/10028.html

step five: buy template for $50 or so. cheaper if you look around some more.

step six: spend an hour or so making some shitty graphics and plunking them in the template, or just use the few thousand that come free with the templates.

step seven: remind yourself that your clients will think you're a wizard with the website, so they'll pay three dollars for you to update the site constantly. this helps you get your infrequent meals at mcdonalds, which explains how you're both fat and small.

step eight: jerk off and cry alone in your shitty apartment.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 05, 2006, 10:39:02 PM
step 9 - play on getbig.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 05, 2006, 10:40:02 PM


now I'm in my recliner 12 hours a day, busting ass to stay ahead of this line of websites in my box.

well, 240, MBA, we appreciate your making time to post here regularly. it makes our banal existence slightly more charmed.  You are a veritable lily of the field.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: True Sport Supplements on April 05, 2006, 10:41:11 PM
Quote
step eight: jerk off and cry alone in your shitty apartment.

I thought Bob Chic was the only one who does that.  ???
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 05, 2006, 10:42:30 PM
I thought Bob Chic was the only one who does that.  ???

some people say that they both do it . . . while fantasizing about each other.  It's really a very touching story of attachment and devotion.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: True Sport Supplements on April 05, 2006, 10:46:21 PM
Bob...I can DEFINITLY quit you.

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bobchic7abig.jpg)
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 05, 2006, 10:46:40 PM
some people say that they both do it . . . while fantasizing about each other.  It's really a very touching story of attachment and devotion.

I gave BrokeBack Athlete's Rep 4.3 stars.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: kmhphoto on April 05, 2006, 10:55:51 PM
Why is that 240? 

He can't get hired. The ink on his MBA smeared.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 05, 2006, 10:58:12 PM
He can't get hired. The ink on his MBA smeared.

Did that Weider tattoo hurt?
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: kmhphoto on April 05, 2006, 11:03:38 PM
Did that Weider tattoo hurt?

Nowhere near as much as that anal raping you just recieved from MisterMagoo,
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: Al-Gebra on April 05, 2006, 11:05:52 PM
Nowhere near as much as that anal raping you just recieved from MisterMagoo,

do i detect a hint of anger? a smidgen? Why?
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 05, 2006, 11:06:14 PM
as much as that anal raping
\
You can't go 5 posts without returning to discussions of anal rape.

It's really *that* bad at Camp FLEX, isn't it?
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 05, 2006, 11:07:32 PM
it's on the way.

until then:

www.prodivisionbodybuild ing.com

Isn't that like Cybersquatting?  You hurry and register a domain name that you think will be wanted by the company that hasn't registered it yet and you toss up some trashy graphics and try to sell it for a profit.  With the name, prodivisionbodybuilding. com, if they want it, it's theirs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anticybersquatting_Consumer_Protection_Act
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 05, 2006, 11:11:28 PM
Nope, I cleared it with my lawyer, actually.  You don't think I only operate in the BBing arena, do you?  I still have a vested interest, but it is no longer my property. 

Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 05, 2006, 11:19:38 PM
Nope, I cleared it with my lawyer, actually.  You don't think I only operate in the BBing arena, do you?  I still have a vested interest, but it is no longer my property. 


So I can buy these websites from you like it says at the bottom?
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: kmhphoto on April 05, 2006, 11:19:59 PM
You can't go 5 posts without returning to discussions of anal rape.

First time I've mentioned it. Though it's not the first time you've suffered it :o
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 05, 2006, 11:20:19 PM
So I can buy these websites from you like it says at the bottom?

which site? I no longer manage the content on prodivisionbbing.com
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 05, 2006, 11:21:54 PM
which site? I no longer manage the content on prodivisionbbing.com
http://www.prodivisionbodybuilding.com/ says at the bottom to contact you, that's your e-mail isn't it?
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 05, 2006, 11:22:00 PM
First time I've mentioned it. Though it's not the first time you've suffered it :o

I'd estimate that putting up with Cormier, King's, or Bob Chick's prima donna act while taking close up pics of them in oily thongs would be a tad worse than any anal pounding.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 05, 2006, 11:22:47 PM
http://www.prodivisionbodybuilding.com/ says at the bottom to contact you, that's your e-mail isn't it?

yep.  but i no longer own the site.  it's easier to have me filter information, though.  I have established some decent connections and it works better this way.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 05, 2006, 11:24:12 PM
yep.  but i no longer own the site.  it's easier to have me filter information, though.  I have established some decent connections and it works better this way.
Did the PDI guys buy it? I don't get it.  It's for sale through you but you don't own it.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 05, 2006, 11:28:12 PM
Did the PDI guys buy it?

Can't talk about the party that made the purchase.

but I can say that I maintain a solid professional relationship with Wayne. and wish both the PDI and IFBB guys success. 
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: kmhphoto on April 05, 2006, 11:30:49 PM
but I can say that I maintain a solid professional relationship with Wayne. and wish both the PDI and IFBB guys success. 

Me too.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 05, 2006, 11:32:59 PM
Can't talk about the party that made the purchase.

but I can say that I maintain a solid professional relationship with Wayne. and wish both the PDI and IFBB guys success. 
So what really happened was it was cheaper to pay you 750 than take you to court so they took your bribe being it was small? I mean if you had a domain name registered with their registered trade name in it, then that's cybersquatting unless i'm not getting it.  If PDI doesn't own it, they can come along and take it from whoever you sold it to.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: True Sport Supplements on April 05, 2006, 11:36:56 PM
He sold it to Jim Manion.  ;)
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 05, 2006, 11:41:02 PM
Records show it's still in Rob's name.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: onlyme on April 05, 2006, 11:59:01 PM
Why do people care about if PDI has their website up yet.  The IFBB's website has been up for many years and if you saw it you would email them and tell them to take it down.  It is embarrassing for the organization that is supposed to be the biggest the best and god almighty to have a web presence like they do.  I highly doubt I will get anyone to disagree with me on this fact.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 06, 2006, 12:34:42 AM
Yea, I agree. Problem tho is that a lot of people are duped into thinking they got a good deal. OR, they are duped into thinking they will get a good deal by a slick salesman.

I see it all the time and it frustrates me because I cringe when I hear stories about companies spending thousands on a p.o.s. website that they have to turn right around and get redone through a new web company.

You all rag on 240 because he charges $300-$400 a site and you think he puts out crap. Couple things:
--do some research and figure out pricing for websites
--you try and put something together better (do it on geocities and show us all)
--$300 = about 5 hours at $60 an hour, or 10 hours at $30/hour. Very modest hourly rate.
--his sites do not crash, are complete, are done in a very timely manner, and according to client specs

The others who are in the know, rag on him because he's taking their clients...and they're pissed. I don't care because I don't use GetBig or the BBing world as a source of clients (wpse & boom7 are hobbies, not real income)...so he's not stealing my clients...I'm the guy behind the scenes that the web companies come to when they can't figure something out.
His pages are worth about 50 bucks and that's being nice.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: Spicy Shushi on April 06, 2006, 12:57:06 AM
Still waiting on the trademark for Professional Dipshits, Inc.

Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: LuciusFox on April 06, 2006, 05:18:40 AM
make a website the 240 way.

step one: charge client $300.

step two: google for some templates. http://www.google.com/search?q=website+templates

step three: pick one of the links. lets say this one. http://www.hypertemplates.com/

step four: skim through the flash files for something nice. this one looks okay http://www.hypertemplates.com/templates/10559.html. so does this one http://www.hypertemplates.com/templates/10028.html

step five: buy template for $50 or so. cheaper if you look around some more.

step six: spend an hour or so making some shitty graphics and plunking them in the template, or just use the few thousand that come free with the templates.

step seven: remind yourself that your clients will think you're a wizard with the website, so they'll pay three dollars for you to update the site constantly. this helps you get your infrequent meals at mcdonalds, which explains how you're both fat and small.

step eight: jerk off and cry alone in your shitty apartment.

 Vicious brutality! 240 is married though.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: bigdumbbell on April 06, 2006, 05:27:24 AM
well, 240, MBA, we appreciate your making time to post here regularly. it makes our banal existence slightly more charmed.  You are a veritable lily of the field.

MBA  Master Baiters of America
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: kmhphoto on April 06, 2006, 06:00:17 AM
Vicious brutality! 240 is married though.

So was Rock Hudson
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: LifterChick on April 06, 2006, 06:13:47 AM
Why do people care about if PDI has their website up yet.  The IFBB's website has been up for many years and if you saw it you would email them and tell them to take it down.  It is embarrassing for the organization that is supposed to be the biggest the best and god almighty to have a web presence like they do.  I highly doubt I will get anyone to disagree with me on this fact.

I care big time.  I want a place that I can go and learn what exactly PDI really means.  Not alot of gossip or biased hatred.  I do agree with you about the IFBB website, but at least I can stilll go there and get information as opposed to what I have to do to get PDI info.  I figure about 10% of what I read on the internet is true in regards to PDI. It sucks!
Wayne might have the athletes in mind but he is sure doing his best to keep the fans on the outside.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: bigdumbbell on April 06, 2006, 06:17:02 AM
So was Rock Hudson

isnt sir elton john?
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: LuciusFox on April 06, 2006, 06:19:20 AM
So was Rock Hudson

  What are you implying?  ;D
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: Palpatine Q on April 06, 2006, 06:46:46 AM
Nope, I cleared it with my lawyer, actually.  You don't think I only operate in the BBing arena, do you?  I still have a vested interest, but it is no longer my property. 


 

Here's what I think is funny. If  you didn't know what we were talking about and read 240's posts you would think he's the owner of a multi-million dollar corportion. He talks about this crap like it's big business.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 06, 2006, 06:49:39 AM
 

Here's what I think is funny. If  you didn't know what we were talking about and read 240's posts you would think he's the owner of a multi-million dollar corportion. He talks about this crap like it's big business.

240 is a thousandaire! :)
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: MisterMagoo on April 06, 2006, 08:43:35 AM
i don't have clients for him to be taking away, nor do i give a shit that he's making websites for people. its the fact that he's charging $300 for a website that should cost $50 tops and take an hour to put together. a middle schooler could do what he does and he's acting like he's some big wheeler in the web design business. the graphics are either words made with some random font or a picture he whipped through a few filters, all put into a template anyone could find, buy, and use in a free afternoon.

i also wonder if the makers of these templates know you're charging money for clients to use them, robby. most of these companies have terms and conditions with a clause like "UNAUTHORIZED USE
You may not place any of our products, modified or unmodified, on a diskette, CD, website or any other medium and offer them for redistribution or resale of any kind without prior written consent from our company."

since its pretty obvious you aren't hardcoding these sites yourself, i sure hope you've gotten permission from all the companies first. provided you didn't get incredibly lazy and search for free templates, which would just be pathetic.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: weedoutheweak on April 06, 2006, 08:50:04 AM
i don't have clients for him to be taking away, nor do i give a shit that he's making websites for people. its the fact that he's charging $300 for a website that should cost $50 tops and take an hour to put together. a middle schooler could do what he does and he's acting like he's some big wheeler in the web design business. the graphics are either words made with some random font or a picture he whipped through a few filters, all put into a template anyone could find, buy, and use in a free afternoon.

i also wonder if the makers of these templates know you're charging money for clients to use them, robby. most of these companies have terms and conditions with a clause like "UNAUTHORIZED USE
You may not place any of our products, modified or unmodified, on a diskette, CD, website or any other medium and offer them for redistribution or resale of any kind without prior written consent from our company."

since its pretty obvious you aren't hardcoding these sites yourself, i sure hope you've gotten permission from all the companies first. provided you didn't get incredibly lazy and search for free templates, which would just be pathetic.

where's 240's response
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: rocket on April 06, 2006, 09:02:47 AM
Hmm.. cya later absent (you're on your way to timeout for that indisgression :))

And cya later thread.

FYI, being involved with web design myself I personally do not believe that 240 buys templates as his layouts are so simple they are not worth buying.  All of his stuff has the same "lack of subtlety that you might expect from someone who doesn't obsess over things like layer effects and general minor details. 

I agree he needs to work on his graphical prowess but ask yourself this question.  If he's got clients who are prepared to pay him at his pricepoint and are happy with the sites why the hell would he want to waste time learning better skills.

You have to realise he's not a graphic artist, he's simply someone who uses web design for cash.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: kiwiol on April 06, 2006, 09:19:02 AM
STFU you assholes  >:(. No one else deserves to voice their opinion (every 2 secs) like our very own 240 - After all, its obvious the man spends as much time perfecting his websites as he does his physique  ;D ;D ;D

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=62725.0;attach=72514;image)
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: jaejonna on April 06, 2006, 09:21:57 AM
Im sooo sick of that picture..

I wonder if anyone has ever seen 240 in person ??
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: LuciusFox on April 06, 2006, 09:55:29 AM
STFU you assholes  >:(. No one else deserves to voice their opinion (every 2 secs) like our very own 240 - After all, its obvious the man spends as much time perfecting his websites as he does his physique  ;D ;D ;D

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=62725.0;attach=72514;image)

 I hope 240's wife never comes to this site :-\
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 06, 2006, 09:58:10 AM
I do use some flash components for sites, and I have been learning actionscript to animate.  I am very upfront about the options clients have- they can get an HTML site, or a flash/HTML combination site.  In addition to the site, they also get features like member areas, online stores, SEO, marketing/promotions, photo galleries, training, and overall business competition/strategy assistance.  All for a very sexy $300.

The bottom line is, I deliver a solid, complete website, at a terrific price and fast delivery time.  And I'm busting my ass 12-14 hours a day to do it.

Also, your statement was incorrect.  When I use any kind of package for resale to my clients, I have purchased the licenses for all products sold, and provide that documentation to my clients.  With as many haters as I have, I just gotta follow the rules. If I do my job correctly, much of it *looks* like a template, when what you're really seeing is a series of integrated flash pieces to create a unique site viewing experience.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: LuciusFox on April 06, 2006, 10:01:07 AM
I do use some flash components for sites, and I have been learning actionscript to animate.  I am very upfront about the options clients have- they can get an HTML site, or a flash/HTML combination site.  In addition to the site, they also get features like member areas, online stores, SEO, marketing/promotions, photo galleries, training, and overall business competition/strategy assistance.  All for a very sexy $300.

The bottom line is, I deliver a solid, complete website, at a terrific price and fast delivery time.  And I'm busting my ass 12-14 hours a day to do it.

Also, your statement was incorrect.  When I use any kind of package for resale to my clients, I have purchased the licenses for all products sold, and provide that documentation to my clients.  With as many haters as I have, I just gotta follow the rules. If I do my job correctly, much of it *looks* like a template, when what you're really seeing is a series of integrated flash pieces to create a unique site viewing experience.

 SEO? You sell site-enhancement oil? Are you a synthol dealer?
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 06, 2006, 10:01:57 AM
SEO? You sell site-enhancement oil? Are you a synthol dealer?

I prefer to call it liquid confidence!
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 06, 2006, 10:15:22 AM
One more thing- As my sites are designed, there is a series of "back-and-forths" between the client and myself.  Each site has probably 8 to 15 revisions, which takes days of back-and-forth as the site is developed to meet their creative vision.  I have a very efficient design process, but I tell ya, I still work 7 days a week and I spend most of every day building sites and doing marketing.  It's hard work, honestly.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 06, 2006, 12:43:29 PM
I have a very efficient design process,
Speaking of that design process, you might attract more clients if you didn't spell it, “Grapihics deisgn" on your sites. I'm not a board grammer Nazi because things get posted in hast and mistakes made but those are your webpages man.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: LuciusFox on April 06, 2006, 12:45:10 PM
One more thing- As my sites are designed, there is a series of "back-and-forths" between the client and myself.  Each site has probably 8 to 15 revisions, which takes days of back-and-forth as the site is developed to meet their creative vision.  I have a very efficient design process, but I tell ya, I still work 7 days a week and I spend most of every day building sites and doing marketing.  It's hard work, honestly.

 Your websites are definitely worth the money.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 06, 2006, 06:58:48 PM
thanks.  yeah, my own site is newly cleaned up, but definitely small in comparison with some of the sites I build.  Time is such a resource I don't have :(
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: rocket on April 06, 2006, 08:20:26 PM
I think you at times rely a little too much on "token" flash 240.. you are getting better but if I were you I would focus on initially getting more from photoshop.

However token flash gives the client a feeling that they have received a "flashy" (pardon the use of it) website though.

Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: MisterMagoo on April 06, 2006, 08:47:42 PM
allow me to be serious for a moment.

robby, definitely quit relying on flash. very few pro sites (pro meaning professional, not ifbb pros) use flash any more because efficiency and ease of navigation are the biggest keys. look at google, for example. incredibly simple, easy to navigate, and packed with features that work well. any site that takes longer than 4-5 seconds to load on a decent connection will turn off most.

go through a day of web surfing and see how many are built with flash. if you get more than 2 without purposefully searching, id be surprised. macromedia dreamweaver and photoshop are your best friends. work on small, simple graphics and clean navigation. make sure the colors and the font are easy to read.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: 240 is Back on April 06, 2006, 08:53:25 PM
thanks for the feedback guys.
 
I am, admittedly, a terrible artist.  I just have no sense of beauty.  I'm a very tacky dresser too.   In a field like BBing where appearances is everything, I've had to learn fast.

Luckily, my clients have pretty clear visions of what they want.  Most people want flash sites with HTML usability and editability.  I'm starting to chunk things up a lot more, starting to employ a lot of degraded background images to convey some depth.  I've come miles from where I was 3 months ago.   My own site uses plain ol' html and like 2 graphics.  But for fitness/bbing clients, I try to deliver something that is just plain sexy to the eye.  Most of the stuff I do for University and local firms is clean, cold and professional anyway.  BBing sites are a lot more fun.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: MisterMagoo on April 06, 2006, 09:00:49 PM
well try to get across that sometimes their sites come across as busy. vinnies especially is a bit of an eyesore, there's just way too much going on.
Title: Re: Does the PDI have a website?
Post by: bigdumbbell on April 07, 2006, 03:55:24 AM
flash is so 2002