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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: musclecenter on May 24, 2017, 04:58:31 AM
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what you say?
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I could see Sergio because of his name,down the road a few years. Would be a cool story for Bodybuilding.
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I could see Sergio because of his name,down the road a few years. Would be a cool story for Bodybuilding.
Hmm toss up, Sergio may turn into a beast, I see shades of 2006 Phil Heath in him. Cedric if conditioned could be a Mr. O. And Aceto the coach/guru for both.
Hard to tell what the future may bring.
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That's a tough question..
Cedric has the better structure & mass, but he's getting older which makes it harder to dial in.
Sergio has def some shades of his father, but not enough. Esp his chest, back & arms are lagging, which are vital body parts.
Sergio has the best cards due his age, but it's prob someone else who takes over the Sandow...
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They both look better than Cheath now, so...
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That's a tough question..
Cedric has the better structure & mass, but he's getting older which makes it harder to dial in.
Sergio has def some shades of his father, but not enough. Esp his chest, back & arms are lagging, which are vital body parts.
Sergio has the best cards due his age, but it's prob someone else who takes over the Sandow...
Does this guy have what it takes to win the Olympia?
(https://www.ncstechconnect.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/shaun-lai.jpg)
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I'm not too impressed with Sergio, at least the comparisons to his father. He absolutely does not have his father's tiny waist and dramatic taper. I expect him to get a strong push because of the name recognition, and there being a potential for lots of marketing through that.
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Don't care for Sergio Jr's arms. They look the exact same flexed as they do relaxed. Like shapeless blobs. Mostly do to the absence of peak in his biceps.
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Don't care for Sergio Jr's arms. They look the exact same flexed as they do relaxed. Like shapeless blobs. Mostly do to the absence of peak in his biceps.
He has the same arms as his father. His biceps insert closer to the elbow. So what will happen is that his arms will get bigger volume wise, but he will not be able to have that impressive peak. A trade off.
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Cedric is maxed out on size where Sergio has a lot of growing to do.
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If he wasn't Sergio Sr's son, would anyone notice this guy or be talked about? Don't think so, his father has everything to do with how relevant he is
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He has the same arms as his father. His biceps insert closer to the elbow. So what will happen is that his arms will get bigger volume wise, but he will not be able to have that impressive peak. A trade off.
Jr's Arms look worse to me than Sr's. Just blobs. Although his Dad never had great peaks to his biceps, they're a bit better in terms of peak than Jr's, imo.
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/1924-npc-national-championships/2015/37857-sergio-oliva-jr/37857-sergio-oliva-jr-41_final.jpg)
(https://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2012/09/vlcsnap00010-1.jpg)
Sergio Jr's torso appears to be a bit longer as well. His Dad had lats that attached lower.
(https://i.gyazo.com/11d015d5d2d8c85af9402230d7d37cb4.png)
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Cedric is vastly overrated. I'll go with Sergio (even though I don't see him winning any Olympia's either) based on his relative youth.
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there are about more than 20 strong structural differences among the similarities, some are 'less is more' which sr. had
left image is ps'd to make jr look more like sr structurally
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Sergio Jr. has all the tools in the tool box. Just needs some more chest and shoulder thickness so that front double doesn't look so stringy. Hard to believe those two pics are from same show. He has arms, forearms, good shape to quads, calves...waist is wider than Sr. but so is everybody elses. Just needs to watch the gut while working on upper body thickness.
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Cedric is vastly overrated. I'll go with Sergio (even though I don't see him winning any Olympia's either) based on his relative youth.
He's in his early 30's already
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I'm not too impressed with Sergio, at least the comparisons to his father. He absolutely does not have his father's tiny waist and dramatic taper. I expect him to get a strong push because of the name recognition, and there being a potential for lots of marketing through that.
Sergio Jr. looks very good, but as you said - he does not have the wasp waist of his father. He has a lot else going for him though - such as long biceps muscle bellies and huge forearms to go with it. He will go straight to the top, IMO. I honestly think he is a future Mr. Olympia competitor, despite not having his father's waist.
He is half Caucasian, hence the larger waist.
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Sergio Jr. already won his first pro show, and a pretty good pro show at that. The Night of Champions was a top three bodybuilding contest - in 2001 for example, only the Arnold and, of course, the Mr. Olympia were bigger. Even today, this remains the case.
I see no reason why Sergio can't be top 10 in the Arnold and top 15 in the Mr. Olympia already. So if we can say he is currently the 15th best in the world right now, I see no reason why he can't be Mr. Olympia by the time he is 35-40.
Sergio Jr. stated in the Generation Iron interview that Sergio Sr. lied about his age on his birth certificate when he defected to the USA. So he was born around 1935, making him 50 when he came into the1985 Mr. Olympia looking amazing.
That means that Sergio Jr. can probably be competitive for another 20 years.
Do not write Sergio Jr. off just yet...I believe his mother, from Dave Palumbo's recent New York Pro win interview with Sergio Jr. when she said that he will go all the way to the top. Wait and see. Yes, his Caucasian genetics have given him a bit of a larger waist than his old man, but he still looks extremely good.
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Jr's Arms look worse to me than Sr's. Just blobs. Although his Dad never had great peaks to his biceps, they're a bit better in terms of peak than Jr's, imo.
Sergio Sr. was never known for peaked biceps...but rather massive football biceps with ridiculous full muscle bellies. Just huge arms from top to bottom. Sergio Jr. has this characteristic as well - amazing huge arms with full muscle bellies.
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I dunno... Im just not seeing it. Jr's missing something thatnstands out. Everything is cookie-cutter. He's not just up against cedric, who's way older, but theres also roelly, nathan de ashe, brandon curry, compton, ramy, mccarver, all of whom have something that stands out.
Jr just seems average.
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I dunno... Im just not seeing it. Jr's missing something thatnstands out. Everything is cookie-cutter. He's not just up against cedric, who's way older, but theres also roelly, nathan de ashe, brandon curry, compton, ramy, mccarver, all of whom have something that stands out.
Jr just seems average.
i hear what your saying not having something that really stands out....THAT just might be a good thing if he consistently nails his conditioning...the only concern I have is that back of his and his shallow chest...those areas SELDOM improve a lot once you hit your 30s if they are already a blantly weak points, he good but he is...missing the WHAO factor ATM
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Sergio has no shape to be Olympia -- Olympia -- champion.
No way.
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Sergio Jr. already won his first pro show, and a pretty good pro show at that. The Night of Champions was a top three bodybuilding contest - in 2001 for example, only the Arnold and, of course, the Mr. Olympia were bigger. Even today, this remains the case.
I see no reason why Sergio can't be top 10 in the Arnold and top 15 in the Mr. Olympia already. So if we can say he is currently the 15th best in the world right now, I see no reason why he can't be Mr. Olympia by the time he is 35-40.
Sergio Jr. stated in the Generation Iron interview that Sergio Sr. lied about his age on his birth certificate when he defected to the USA. So he was born around 1935, making him 50 when he came into the1985 Mr. Olympia looking amazing.
That means that Sergio Jr. can probably be competitive for another 20 years.
Do not write Sergio Jr. off just yet...I believe his mother, from Dave Palumbo's recent New York Pro win interview with Sergio Jr. when she said that he will go all the way to the top. Wait and see. Yes, his Caucasian genetics have given him a bit of a larger waist than his old man, but he still looks extremely good.
Being competitive in this era for another 20 years ::)
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i hear what your saying not having something that really stands out....THAT just might be a good thing if he consistently nails his conditioning...the only concern I have is that back of his and his shallow chest...those areas SELDOM improve a lot once you hit your 30s if they are already a blantly weak points, he good but he is...missing the WHAO factor ATM
His back looked good. Chest is shallow. Delarosa and Akim could have had him. Akim is a beast, but he needs lower back detail and conditioning, possibly needs to come in lighter. Whereas Sergio will get better with time, although, I see his waist will probably be a weak point.
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Jr has made good improvements though the years just how much more he can do and wether he can get that back and chest up more is the question
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Jr has made good improvements though the years just how much more he can do and wether he can get that back and chest up more is the question
Middle one looks like young Phil Heath.
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Waistline is concerning me.
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Waistline is concerning me.
Legs & back got better through the years, so it's all relative..
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Legs & back got better through the years, so it's all relative..
Said Dallas McCarver................ .....not