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Title: SARM vs. Steroids
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 31, 2017, 07:46:30 AM
1- Is it hormones?

2- benefits??

3- Can it be used as an alternative for steroids?




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Title: Re: What is SARM?
Post by: Bulgarian_enforcer on May 31, 2017, 08:07:52 AM
i find it useful during the 4 months i am off aas.
Title: Re: What is SARM?
Post by: Grape Ape on May 31, 2017, 08:12:39 AM
1- Is it hormones?

2- benefits??

3- Can it be used as an alternative for steroids?




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Title: Re: What is SARM?
Post by: hipolito mejia on May 31, 2017, 08:53:53 AM
It's an estrogen blocker, with testosterone alike results and Hardly any side effects.

Can't go wrong with it.
Title: Re: What is SARM?
Post by: Waller on May 31, 2017, 09:10:45 AM
It's an estrogen blocker, with testosterone alike results and Hardly any side effects.

Can't go wrong with it.

Replying to your own thread?
Title: Re: What is SARM?
Post by: youandme on May 31, 2017, 09:34:10 AM
I took a variety of SARMs to test em out and gained a shit ton of weight, lots of water, was tired all day. Strength was through the roof though.
Title: Re: What is SARM?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 31, 2017, 09:53:50 AM


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Title: Re: What is SARM?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 31, 2017, 09:55:00 AM
Replying to your own thread?


Huh ?


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Title: Re: What is SARM?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 31, 2017, 11:49:06 AM
This guy seems better than Google





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Title: Re: What is SARM?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 31, 2017, 12:01:31 PM
It's an estrogen blocker, with testosterone alike results and Hardly any side effects.

Can't go wrong with it.

What is this shit?

SARM is basically a politically correct term for anabolic steroids. They will have all the same sides as AAS, there is no complete divorcing of the positive effects from the negative.

Like I've said before, something like trenbolone can be classified as a SARM and was in one paper found on pubmed. Search trenbolone + SARM.
Title: Re: What is SARM?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 31, 2017, 06:33:58 PM
What is this shit?

SARM is basically a politically correct term for anabolic steroids. They will have all the same sides as AAS, there is no complete divorcing of the positive effects from the negative.

Like I've said before, something like trenbolone can be classified as a SARM and was in one paper found on pubmed. Search trenbolone + SARM.

According to DR.Huge, Sarms do not convert to estrogen, they do not cause gyno, hairloss and all the nasty side effects.

 




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Title: Re: SARM vs. Steroids
Post by: Yamcha on May 31, 2017, 06:36:07 PM
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Title: Re: What is SARM?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 31, 2017, 06:41:12 PM
According to DR.Huge, Sarms do not convert to estrogen, they do not cause gyno, hairloss and all the nasty side effects.

 


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I'm not listening to that retard but those claims are bullshit. There are no free rides. Trenbolone and a ton of other steroids
do not convert to estrogen either, so what? Something works like a steroid but with no sides? Ridiculous, as anyone who knows
anything about steroids knows.

Trenbolone is one of harshest feeling steroids you can take. Yet is a SARM and might not cause some of the sides testosterone does.

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Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. 2011 Apr;300(4):E650-60. doi: 10.1152/ajpendo.00440.2010. Epub 2011 Jan 25.
17β-Hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one (trenbolone) exhibits tissue selective anabolic activity: effects on muscle, bone, adiposity, hemoglobin, and prostate.
Yarrow JF1, Conover CF, McCoy SC, Lipinska JA, Santillana CA, Hance JM, Cannady DF, VanPelt TD, Sanchez J, Conrad BP, Pingel JE, Wronski TJ, Borst SE.
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Abstract

Selective androgen receptor modulators (SARMs) now under development can protect against muscle and bone loss without causing prostate growth or polycythemia. 17β-Hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one (trenbolone), a potent testosterone analog, may have SARM-like actions because, unlike testosterone, trenbolone does not undergo tissue-specific 5α-reduction to form more potent androgens. We tested the hypothesis that trenbolone-enanthate (TREN) might prevent orchiectomy-induced losses in muscle and bone and visceral fat accumulation without increasing prostate mass or resulting in adverse hemoglobin elevations. Male F344 rats aged 3 mo underwent orchiectomy or remained intact and were administered graded doses of TREN, supraphysiological testosterone-enanthate, or vehicle for 29 days. In both intact and orchiectomized animals, all TREN doses and supraphysiological testosterone-enanthate augmented androgen-sensitive levator ani/bulbocavernosus muscle mass by 35-40% above shams (P ≤ 0.001) and produced a dose-dependent partial protection against orchiectomy-induced total and trabecular bone mineral density losses (P < 0.05) and visceral fat accumulation (P < 0.05). The lowest doses of TREN successfully maintained prostate mass and hemoglobin concentrations at sham levels in both intact and orchiectomized animals, whereas supraphysiological testosterone-enanthate and high-dose TREN elevated prostate mass by 84 and 68%, respectively (P < 0.01). In summary, low-dose administration of the non-5α-reducible androgen TREN maintains prostate mass and hemoglobin concentrations near the level of shams while producing potent myotrophic actions in skeletal muscle and partial protection against orchiectomy-induced bone loss and visceral fat accumulation. Our findings indicate that TREN has advantages over supraphysiological testosterone and supports the need for future preclinical studies examining the viability of TREN as an option for androgen replacement therapy.
Title: Re: SARM vs. Steroids
Post by: Colossus_1986 on May 31, 2017, 09:44:31 PM
I have tried Ostarine 2x,

Once alone for a 4 to 6 week period. Was like a pro hormone cycle but not quite there...

Second time I did Ostarine for 4 weeks and then jumped onto LGD4033 and that did it for me.
Killed my energy levels and I felt like total shit.

Did my yearly bloodwork and my test levels were never that low ever. Never touching LGD again. Fuck Sarms all together. They don't offer anything crazy and in the end they still produce a noticeable change in your hormone levels. I'd rather take old school anabolics at very conservative doses and know what to expect.

The moral of the story. If it sounds too good to be true it usually is. And this is how most people get into Sarms.

They are told "it's like roids but with little to no sides"...
Title: Re: SARM vs. Steroids
Post by: Bulgarian_enforcer on May 31, 2017, 11:42:16 PM
Cardarine is nice if you are into endurance sports and Ostarine suppression is temporary while you administer it.

Nothing like steroids but still good with hgh while giving your time off. I did pct in dec, did osta and cardarine during jan and feb, and in the end my blood work was perfect except for the low test, which got into middle ranges after stopping osta for 4 weeks.

I did 8 months of primo/test prior to that.
Title: Re: SARM vs. Steroids
Post by: Spike on June 01, 2017, 01:54:44 AM
Just someone who repackaged lab synthesized Anabolics and drops $ on a marketing campaign

Junk science claims from fly by night 'scientists' with shit builds to begin with

No evidence whatsoever your 'product' is effective aside from personal testimonies

Pretty labels with colors and fancy acronyms , maybe some sort of beast or superhero on it