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This was the final show for this organization, which folded a month later. With the feds breathing down Vince McMahon's neck about anabolic steroids, the WBF guys were tested for everything but the kitchen sink.
The results were shocking to say the least.
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Man, that's just about the last thing I'd show anybody if I admitted I was into bodybuilding, and that says something.
Aaron Baker and Johnnie Morant looked good at this show though.
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Man, that's just about the last thing I'd show anybody if I admitted I was into bodybuilding, and that says something.
Aaron Baker and Johnnie Morant looked good at this show though.
I thought about this after seeing some links to Tony Pearson's personal training site and YouTube channel.
I paid $15 to see this show, the first bodybuilding show I'd ever seen on the day it actually occurred, not 6-9 months later.
People always rant about testing bodybuilders. Vince McMahon actually did it (albeit not for the purest reasons) and he gets blasted for it.
The two biggest shockers for me were Mike Christian and Mike Quinn. Christian looked as if he was on crack (which turned out to be more accurate than I thought at the time). And Quinn? Dipasquale's diet didn't do him any favors.
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Strydom was off too. He never, ever managed to recapture his '91 look. He tried returning to IFBB at that one NOC show and just didn't have the same pop to his muscles.
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Strydom was off too. He never, ever managed to recapture his '91 look. He tried returning to IFBB at that one NOC show and just didn't have the same pop to his muscles.
Actually, when he came back in 2006, he looked even better than he did as WBF champion. It was just that the competition had surpassed him.
Jim Quinn was smaller but he held on to enough size to place second. Aaron Baker made the most improvement. He's the only one who looked bigger in '92 than he did in '91.
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http://pwchronicle.blogspot.ro/2005/12/history-definitive-history-of-wbf.html
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http://pwchronicle.blogspot.ro/2005/12/history-definitive-history-of-wbf.html
This "history" is quite off. For starters, the picture of "Tom Platz" is actually Dave Draper (who was the WBF's head judge for both contests).
Vince McMahon and Bobby Heenan did commentary on the second show, not the first one. That was Tom Platz and Greg Lewis.
Eddie Robinson didn't place top 5 in the second show. And Padilla's "Jack and the Beanstalk" routine was in the second show, not the first.
And, that's just for starters.
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This is very gay.
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Yeah, I saw the picture with Draper instead of Platz. But others were wrong in renowned journals..
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Pearson got robbed! :o
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strydom.was still good enough to win,was off 'less tight'but still had great bodyparts
demey,was off ,way down for him ,91 was one of his best looks ever like 88 condition with 86/87 size
baker was shredded his costume/hair threw it off
dearth was smaller like his middleweight days but was in shape,,he looked good again 94/96 noc's bigger and lean
padilla ..soft like offseason
eddie robinson condition way off,downsized a bit,but still pretty big.
j Quinn was still large /good condition
zuccollotto downsized/condition
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This is very gay.I
Huh? The 1992 WBBF is what I see when I close my eyes and visualize perfection.
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Actually, when he came back in 2006, he looked even better than he did as WBF champion. It was just that the competition had surpassed him.
For his age, his 2006 comeback was incredible, but I'm sorry no way is that on par with his '91 look.
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For his age, his 2006 comeback was incredible, but I'm sorry no way is that on par with his '91 look.
no not even close esp legs,,,what he had in 2006 due to age and training so long was a more papered skinned look..91 he was huge/thick ..
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For his age, his 2006 comeback was incredible, but I'm sorry no way is that on par with his '91 look.
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Pearson got robbed! :o
I thought he should have placed 5th, as well.
McMahon and Platz were taken aback that "the Jetman" got left out the top 5 as well.
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strydom.was still good enough to win,was off 'less tight'but still had great bodyparts
demey,was off ,way down for him ,91 was one of his best looks ever like 88 condition with 86/87 size
baker was shredded his costume/hair threw it off
dearth was smaller like his middleweight days but was in shape,,he looked good again 94/96 noc's bigger and lean
padilla ..soft like offseason
eddie robinson condition way off,downsized a bit,but still pretty big.
j Quinn was still large /good condition
zuccollotto downsized/condition
I actually thought Strydom was in better condition than he was in '91 but definitely smaller.
What in the world happened to Mike Christian? How did he go from 2nd place in '91 to looking like a crackhead in '92?
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I actually thought Strydom was in better condition than he was in '91 but definitely smaller.
What in the world happened to Mike Christian? How did he go from 2nd place in '91 to looking like a crackhead in '92?
maybe he was using crack?
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maybe he was using crack?
Whatever it was, it did a whammy on him.
I know he got popped on a drug test and got fined $25,000 (a month's salary) for it.
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his 2006 build is still stupid awesome.
I watched WWF at the time and they would rep that WBF stuff so hard.
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his 2006 build is still stupid awesome.
I watched WWF at the time and they would rep that WBF stuff so hard.
Indeed. Every week prior to the first championship, WWF SuperStars and Wrestling Challenge would feature the "Bodybuilding Lifestyles" magazine and a shot clip of a WBF superstar training in the gym.
They even had them appear on taped episodes of Prime Time Wrestling.
Here's one of Mike Christian on Prime Time.
They even had Lex Luger, promoting the 1992 show at WrestleMania 8.
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maybe he was using crack?
Yes, I heard from a reliable Getbig source - on par with Vince Goodrum - that Gary did recs. LOTS OF RECS.
That said, I cannot reveal the source, AS HE IS FRIENDS WITH GARY!!!
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Yes, I heard from a reliable Getbig source - on par with Vince Goodrum - that Gary did recs. LOTS OF RECS.
That said, I cannot reveal the source, AS HE IS FRIENDS WITH GARY!!!
no guesses required regarding the identity of that individual
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Here's a promo of Lex on BodyStars.
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Strydom was off too. He never, ever managed to recapture his '91 look. He tried returning to IFBB at that one NOC show and just didn't have the same pop to his muscles.
But he was The Toast of the Town!
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Here's a promo of Lex on BodyStars.
lex was very good but nowhere near there development at least in that time/promo..
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Massive G. met Gary through that organization. He said so on Muscle Mayhem. Gary posted there and if anyone literally misspoke even slightly about Gary - or any pro - Massively Hairy Arms G would lose his mind. :-X
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lex was very good but nowhere near there development at least in that time/promo..
Yeah, hes lucky he never "guest posed" like they had planned. It would have made him look pretty small (even though he wasn't)
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I don't know. I have an episode of BodyStars, where at the end is the "WBF Rules to Lift By". In the segment, Lex Luger asks a girl if he can work in with her on a chest machine. She lets him and he keeps repping and flexing between sets. But, he won't let the girl do another set.
Berry DeMey comes to the rescue and tells Lex to get off the machine and let her do another set. Lex looked a lot bigger than Berry did and Berry's no small guy.
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Here's something I just found. It's from "Major Guns" Eddie Robinson's YouTube channel.
This is from the Coliseum Video tape of the 1992 WBF show.
It's a behind the scenes of Eddie Robinson, rehearsing his routine with the machine gun.
I saw (and taped) the show on PPV the day it happened. So, I obviously didn't see this part.
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Family Feud: WWF vs. WBF.
I think this aired shortly after the 1992 show.
Another BodyStars promo:
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I remember this one too. It's the promo for the first championship in 1991. It aired on WWF SuperStars and Wrestling Challenge every week for at least two months before the show.
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Did any wrestling fans give two shits about wbf back then? Or were they just cringing like "wtf is this?"
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Did any wrestling fans give two shits about wbf back then? Or were they just cringing like "wtf is this?"
I certainly did. I loved wrestling, especially the WWF. And, I'd been seriously into bodybuilding for about two years.
So when the WBF hit, I thought it was AWESOME. One of my best friends, who also loved wrestling (Ultimate Warrior was his favorite) didn't care too much for the WBF.
But, I was THRILLED. Finally, I could see bodybuilding every week, instead of once every three or four months, at 2:00 am or whenever ESPN felt like airing "American Muscle" (especially when BodyStars aired in '92). Granted, with the WBF, it was the same 13 guys (although they signed Ferrigno for a minute, but he left before BodyStars hit TV). Still, it was great.
Here are some promos by "Macho Man" Randy Savage with "The Giant Killer" Danny Padilla and "The Jetman" Tony Pearson training.
Not to be outdone, here's a promo from the Ultimate Warrior.
They played off their 1991 feud where Warrior beat the "Macho King" in a "Career ending match" at WrestleMania 7.
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One of the few guys who came in shape for both shows: "The Future" Jim Quinn.
1991:
1992:
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"Texas Tornado" promos a WBF fitness event, featuring "Mighty" Mike Quinn.
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If you're referring to the championship video, that's Tony Pearson hitting a vacuum shot.
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If you're referring to the championship video, that's Tony Pearson hitting a vacuum shot.
and vince cracking one
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More promos of the 1991 championship: Jim Quinn, Aaron Baker, and Troy Zuccolotto.
I didn't know Hulk Hogan gave Troy Zuccolotto tips on biceps.
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I found this promo while watching old wrestling highlights. It's Lex Luger (the supposed guest poser, who got sidelined via a motorcycle accident) vs. Berry DeMey, bragging about who would look better at the '92 show. 30:07
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Killer
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I found this promo while watching old wrestling highlights. It's Lex Luger (the supposed guest poser, who got sidelined via a motorcycle accident) vs. Berry DeMey, bragging about who would look better at the '92 show. 30:07
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So, who do you got? Luger or Demey?
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Gary weighed 227 for 1991 where he looked his most shredded. Not sure about WBF he tried to say he was 260. Most guys got ready just on HGH and test for the last 12-18 months and had to lower their levels to beat the test come comp and testing time, some faired better than others, I remember the word was Strydom wasn't getting tested, truth was he was using a lot more HGH more than likely as he had the best paying contract. Christian was 20 lbs heavier and harder 8 weeks out.
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Machine gun bit was pretty cool, even if corny as hell....
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Gary weighed 227 for 1991 where he looked his most shredded. Not sure about WBF he tried to say he was 260. Most guys got ready just on HGH and test for the last 12-18 months and had to lower their levels to beat the test come comp and testing time, some faired better than others, I remember the word was Strydom wasn't getting tested, truth was he was using a lot more HGH more than likely as he had the best paying contract. Christian was 20 lbs heavier and harder 8 weeks out.
Still had no back even at 260. When he turned around he got destroyed by every other pro.
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Gary weighed 227 for 1991 where he looked his most shredded. Not sure about WBF he tried to say he was 260. Most guys got ready just on HGH and test for the last 12-18 months and had to lower their levels to beat the test come comp and testing time, some faired better than others, I remember the word was Strydom wasn't getting tested, truth was he was using a lot more HGH more than likely as he had the best paying contract. Christian was 20 lbs heavier and harder 8 weeks out.
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Still had no back even at 260. When he turned around he got destroyed by every other pro.
Judging by his two WBF titles, I'd say his being "destroyed" is a bit inaccurate..
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Judging by his two WBF titles, I'd say his being "destroyed" is a bit inaccurate..
hahah they werent real contests...
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hahah they werent real contests...
Says who? The judges were all former IFBB pros, including (for the first show, at least, former Mr. Olympia, Chris Dickerson).
The evening show was simply the "entertainment" round, where the bodybuilders could do whatever they liked (and McMahon's money could foot). Besides, Strydom won multiple shows in the IFBB and placed top 5 at the Olympia...BEFORE he went to the WBF.
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Lex was recovering from the motorcycle accident at the time and had just walked out of the prior federation he was wrestling for (because he was a sorry ass who won the title by beating a sorry ass hand-picked-that-made-no-sense washed up Barry Windham for the belt and he couldn't even do that without cheating) and was snapped up by Vince before he changed his mind and went back. Lex wasn't allowed to wrestle for another federation, but he skirted that by being associated with the WBF and still keeping his name and face on tv each week.
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Says who? The judges were all former IFBB pros, including (for the first show, at least, former Mr. Olympia, Chris Dickerson).
The evening show was simply the "entertainment" round, where the bodybuilders could do whatever they liked (and McMahon's money could foot). Besides, Strydom won multiple shows in the IFBB and placed top 5 at the Olympia...BEFORE he went to the WBF.
they placed in line with the value of their contracts, why do you think people turned up fat... no point dieting if you know the outcome..
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they placed in line with the value of their contracts, why do you think people turned up fat... no point dieting if you know the outcome..
Their contracts had zilch to do with it. Baker and Dearth made the top 5 in the 1992 show. They weren't among the higher paid guys.
Plus, I believe Robinson got more than DeMey. Yet, DeMey beat him in both shows. Zuccolotto's contract was reportedly higher than either Dearth or Baker. Yet, the Zuke never made the top 5.
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hahah they werent real contests...
This.
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Says who?
Logic and reason.
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Logic and reason.
Again, explain Zuccolotto making way more money than Dearth or Baker, despite not making top 5 in either show.
Then there are the judges: Dave Draper (head judge for both shows), Pete Grymkowski, Chris Dickerson, Tina Plakinger, Janice Raigan, Bob Birdsong, just to name a few.
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Again, explain Zuccolotto making way more money than Dearth or Baker, despite not making top 5 in either show.
Then there are the judges: Dave Draper (head judge for both shows), Pete Grymkowski, Chris Dickerson, Tina Plakinger, Janice Raigan, Bob Birdsong, just to name a few.
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And this is supposed to support your claim that because the WBF was run by McMahon, the contests were supposedly rigged (based on the bodybuilders' contracts), despite lower-payed guys placing higher than higher-payed ones?
By that logic, what was the IFBB's excuse, particularly in the 1994 Olympia?
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Great hairpiece on Gary
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ICO-PRO!!!
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Whatever happened to Howard, anyways?
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ICO-PRO!!!
I used their weight gainer (Mega-Gro 10,000) once. That stuff was like wet concrete.
BTW, Shawn Ray stated in a interview that one of the reasons he didn't jump ship to the WBF was that McMahon offered him LESS money than he offered Troy Zuccolotto (Ray's friend and training partner, at the time).
Ray claimed that McMahon offered him 225K a year but offered the Zuke $275K a year.
Ray was coming off a 3rd-place finish at the 1990 Olympia. The Zuke won the NPC Nationals and the overall IFBB World Championship (Mr. Universe) in 1989; but he hadn't competed at all in 1990.
My guess is that, to the Titan suits, a tall, blonde-hair, blue-eyed white dude would sell more than a short black man with a flattop.
I say this to further skewer the claim that the WBF guys' contest placings were due to the monetary value of their contracts (again, Zuke never cracked the top 5 at either of the WBF shows; whereas, lesser-paid guys did).
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I used their weight gainer (Mega-Gro 10,000) once. That stuff was like wet concrete.
BTW, Shawn Ray stated in a interview that one of the reasons he didn't jump ship to the WBF was that McMahon offered him LESS money than he offered Troy Zuccolotto (Ray's friend and training partner, at the time).
Ray claimed that McMahon offered him 225K a year but offered the Zuke $275K a year.
Ray was coming off a 3rd-place finish at the 1990 Olympia. The Zuke won the NPC Nationals and the overall IFBB World Championship (Mr. Universe) in 1989; but he hadn't competed at all in 1990.
My guess is that, to the Titan suits, a tall, blonde-hair, blue-eyed white dude would sell more than a short black man with a flattop.
I say this to further skewer the claim that the WBF guys' contest placings were due to the monetary value of their contracts (again, Zuke never cracked the top 5 at either of the WBF shows; whereas, lesser-paid guys did).
Yes, Icopro was awful tasting as well and even the package it came in looked like shit. I think they still tried to sell it for a few years after the WBF went bust.
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shawn mooney , who worked for the wwf for a long time and was there during this time said strydom was getting 400k per year plus whatever he won, winning the wbf show, this easily eclipsed anything any ibf pro was making at the time. the mr olympia first place check was what 100k ? i think
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shawn mooney , who worked for the wwf for a long time and was there during this time said strydom was getting 400k per year plus whatever he won, winning the wbf show, this easily eclipsed anything any ibf pro was making at the time. the mr olympia first place check was what 100k ? i think
Yes, Strydom was their big fish. They offered Lou a big contract as well but Weider got him to stay and compete in the O again.
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Weider convinced Bob Paris to stay with the IFBB, once the WBF folded he dropped Paris like a stone
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Weider convinced Bob Paris to stay with the IFBB, once the WBF folded he dropped Paris like a stone
Paris would have fit in those gay looking WBF contests well.
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Paris would have fit in those gay looking WBF contests well.
he wasnt gay enough... ;D
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he wasnt gay enough... ;D
At the time I thought Vince McMahon was gay.
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At the time I thought Vince McMahon was gay.
whats changed your mind?
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shawn mooney , who worked for the wwf for a long time and was there during this time said strydom was getting 400k per year plus whatever he won, winning the wbf show, this easily eclipsed anything any ibf pro was making at the time. the mr olympia first place check was what 100k ? i think
Haney got 60K for the 1990 Olympia and 80K in 1991. Gary Strydom got $100K for both WBF title wins. It was at the 1992 Olympia where Dorian Yates got $100K. It's been at least that much ever since then. But, Strydom got the first six-figure payday (to the best of my knowledge) for winning a pro bodybuilding show).
Yes, Strydom was their big fish. They offered Lou a big contract as well but Weider got him to stay and compete in the O again.
Not quite. Lou actually joined the WBF first. He bailed in March of 1992, after the WBF started drug-testing, and went back to the IFBB.
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The 1992 show was supposed to be the BIG match between Ferrigno and Strydom. But, it never happened.
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When Ferrigno left, Vince futilely tried to use Lex Luger in his place for "crossover" appeal (i.e. his promo at WrestleMania VIII and his hosting of WBF Bodystars).
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Gary weighed 227 for 1991 where he looked his most shredded. Not sure about WBF he tried to say he was 260. Most guys got ready just on HGH and test for the last 12-18 months and had to lower their levels to beat the test come comp and testing time, some faired better than others, I remember the word was Strydom wasn't getting tested, truth was he was using a lot more HGH more than likely as he had the best paying contract. Christian was 20 lbs heavier and harder 8 weeks out.
Strydom claims in this interview that he indeed was tested, just like the other guys. He even blasts two Hulks (Ferrigno and Hogan).
The only thing I must repute is the fact that Vince let me skip the drug testing? That’s false. I think all of that finger pointing to this was due to how Vince manipulated me in a meeting in a conference room in LA (With all the other athletes present) where he asked me in the meeting if I would do a drug test. I said yes (All the guys thought I knew something and suspected I was using a secret drug including Louie) I only agreed like that because he had threatened me on the phone the week before that I had to do it or forfeit my remaining contract. I called his buff and refused only to find out that he would’ve halted those payments. I thought it would hurt the federation and thought it would hurt the show but in the end I understood why he did it. He had no choice. Actually, he tested me more intensely than any other athlete. He couldn’t afford to keep me around because even off all the gear I still appeared in the “form” that could have been perceived that I was still on the gear. During these FBI investigations and false claims made that he sold steroids to the athletes he had no choice but to clean everyone up around him. It was bullshit he never sold anything and never encourage anyone to do anything but work hard. Hulk Hogan made that shit up and in my mind the famous Hulk Hokkie still remains to be a f#ckin punk in my mind for doing that to Vince. So yea Vince wanted everything related to steroids away from the parent company as it could have taken everything down.”
https://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/gary-strydom-wbf
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Lex was recovering from the motorcycle accident at the time and had just walked out of the prior federation he was wrestling for (because he was a sorry ass who won the title by beating a sorry ass hand-picked-that-made-no-sense washed up Barry Windham for the belt and he couldn't even do that without cheating) and was snapped up by Vince before he changed his mind and went back. Lex wasn't allowed to wrestle for another federation, but he skirted that by being associated with the WBF and still keeping his name and face on tv each week.
There's a Youtube video where Luger claims that it was HIS idea to join the WBF as a means of getting out of his last year of his WCW contract. He told WCW that they could save money by cutting his last year of their contract with him and that he wouldn't wrestle.
WCW didn't know that Luger was going to Titan as a bodybuilder for a year, until that year was up. Then, he'd become a wrestler. Hence, he would show up at the 1992 WBF championship as a "guest poser" (as well as being a pitiful replacement for Lou Ferrigno).
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Paris would have fit in those gay looking WBF contests well.
Paris once stated before (I can't remember if it was in a magazine interview or one of his books), that Vince wanted him for the WBF and the gimmick that Vince had planned for him was that he would be wheeled out onto the stage while standing on a pedestal wearing a bodysuit of fake plaster to look like marble. An "artist/sculptor" would be working with a hammer and chisel on him and sections of the marble/plaster would fall away (arms, torso, face, lower body),... Paris would then get off the pedestal and go through a slow classical posing routine.
That gimmick and character would have been a hell of a lot better than the others alter egos of machine guns, wild childs, batmans, surfers, and whatever the hell Strydom and his 2L2Q gimmick was.
On a side note, I thought that given a fair shake upon returning, that Johnnie Morant would have done some damage in the pro levels. He reminds me of an early version of Ronnie Coleman back when he was barely cracking the top ten. Once Ronnie decided to up the dose, well... the rest is history. Johnnie could have probably blown up almost as big.
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Paris once stated before (I can't remember if it was in a magazine interview or one of his books), that Vince wanted him for the WBF and the gimmick that Vince had planned for him was that he would be wheeled out onto the stage while standing on a pedestal wearing a bodysuit of fake plaster to look like marble. An "artist/sculptor" would be working with a hammer and chisel on him and sections of the marble/plaster would fall away (arms, torso, face, lower body),... Paris would then get off the pedestal and go through a slow classical posing routine.
That gimmick and character would have been a hell of a lot better than the others alter egos of machine guns, wild childs, batmans, surfers, and whatever the hell Strydom and his 2L2Q gimmick was.
On a side note, I thought that given a fair shake upon returning, that Johnnie Morant would have done some damage in the pro levels. He reminds me of an early version of Ronnie Coleman back when he was barely cracking the top ten. Once Ronnie decided to up the dose, well... the rest is history. Johnnie could have probably blown up almost as big.
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whats changed your mind?
He is definitely a schmoe.
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Paris once stated before (I can't remember if it was in a magazine interview or one of his books), that Vince wanted him for the WBF and the gimmick that Vince had planned for him was that he would be wheeled out onto the stage while standing on a pedestal wearing a bodysuit of fake plaster to look like marble. An "artist/sculptor" would be working with a hammer and chisel on him and sections of the marble/plaster would fall away (arms, torso, face, lower body),... Paris would then get off the pedestal and go through a slow classical posing routine.
That sounds just like the old GNC Cybergenics commercial from back in the day.
Plus, they did something similar with Mike Christian in 1992, only they were pouring molten steel into a cast. Two foundry men wheel out the cast and open it to unveil the crackhead version of Mike Christian (already fixed in a most-muscular pose).
That gimmick and character would have been a hell of a lot better than the others alter egos of machine guns, wild childs, batmans, surfers, and whatever the hell Strydom and his 2L2Q gimmick was.
On a side note, I thought that given a fair shake upon returning, that Johnnie Morant would have done some damage in the pro levels. He reminds me of an early version of Ronnie Coleman back when he was barely cracking the top ten. Once Ronnie decided to up the dose, well... the rest is history. Johnnie could have probably blown up almost as big.
I thought he got a fair shake. Morant's problem in the IFBB was the same as that in the WBF: Conditioning. As Platz said in the 1992 show, "Shape, symmetry, style, density.....If he gets harder, he'll take over!"
McMahon's take: "Unbelievable potential, Johnnie Morant. And, if he ever puts it all together, WOW! LOOK OUT!!
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Wonder what Morant is up to nowdays.
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That gimmick and character would have been a hell of a lot better than the others alter egos of machine guns, wild childs, batmans, surfers, and whatever the hell Strydom and his 2L2Q gimmick was.
I'm not sure about that. The 1991 presentations were much better. Here's the recap that aired one week after the WBF Championship on WWF Superstars and Wrestling Challenge on whichever local UHF channel aired wrestling (and 9 days later on Prime Time Wrestling on USA Network). Keep in mind that this was back when you had to wait MONTHS for results, either from the magazines or from American Muscle on ESPN.
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That sounds just like the old GNC Cybergenics commercial from back in the day.
Leave it to Vince to rip off some other idea that wasn't his own.
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Leave it to Vince to rip off some other idea that wasn't his own.
Maybe he modified it, ala Aaron Baker's "Dark Angel" gimmick, to replace Baker's affinity with Batman.
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I'm not sure about that. The 1991 presentations were much better. Here's the recap that aired one week after the WBF Championship on WWF Superstars and Wrestling Challenge on whichever local UHF channel aired wrestling (and 9 days later on Prime Time Wrestling on USA Network). Keep in mind that this was back when you had to wait MONTHS for results, either from the magazines or from American Muscle on ESPN.
I read somewhere years ago, that Gary used to let schmoes jerk him off back in Capetown.
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Look what I found. The guy who was SUPPOSED to be part of the 1992 WBF Championship.
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I'm not sure about that. The 1991 presentations were much better. Here's the recap that aired one week after the WBF Championship on WWF Superstars and Wrestling Challenge on whichever local UHF channel aired wrestling (and 9 days later on Prime Time Wrestling on USA Network). Keep in mind that this was back when you had to wait MONTHS for results, either from the magazines or from American Muscle on ESPN.
Love the music back in the day :D
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Look what I found. The guy who was SUPPOSED to be part of the 1992 WBF Championship.
Lou was huge there.
Compare with the interviewer!
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Love the music back in the day :D
It was mostly Strydom's posing music. When it goes to the top 5, that's from Eddie Robinson's routine.
Compare that to his rookie year in the IFBB where he placed 10th at his lone Olympia appearance (1990)
And, of course, there's 1992:
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Rumor has it that mcmahon signed lou to a two million dollar contract i dont know how many years that was over, but when lou found out they were going to be drug tested , he left , and signed with weider. the plan for 1992 was haney vs ferrigno but haney retired, the first flex magazine i ever bought had ferrigno on the cover. lou besides arnold was the most well known bodybuilder in the world
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Cover looks like a re-take on an article in the 70’s ( perhaps 74 ) titled “Bring Me the Head of Schwarzenegger”. It had Lou with hands over head and Arnold’s head in his hands.
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Cover looks like a re-take on an article in the 70’s ( perhaps 74 ) titled “Bring Me the Head of Schwarzenegger”. It had Lou with hands over head and Arnold’s head in his hands.
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correct, they featured it in pumping iron
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Rumor has it that mcmahon signed lou to a two million dollar contract i dont know how many years that was over, but when lou found out they were going to be drug tested , he left , and signed with weider. the plan for 1992 was haney vs ferrigno but haney retired, the first flex magazine i ever bought had ferrigno on the cover. lou besides arnold was the most well known bodybuilder in the world
As I recall, the numbers were more modest, $900K for two years. Ferrigno did bounce shortly after the WBF started drug testing.
I remember that Flex cover. But, it made no sense. Haney already announced his retirement after winning the 1991 Olympia, during the press conference. He broke Arnold's record and had nothing else to prove.
Just as well, had Haney competed, Ferrigno would have placed 13th, instead of 12th, at the 1992 Olympia. BTW, he got a special invite for that show, despite all the flap about guys who jumped ship to the WBF being banned for life from the IFBB.
Had he stayed in the WBF, I don't think he would have beaten Strydom (or even Jim Quinn), anyway.
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As I recall, the numbers were more modest, $900K for two years. Ferrigno did bounce shortly after the WBF started drug testing.
I remember that Flex cover. But, it made no sense. Haney already announced his retirement after winning the 1991 Olympia, during the press conference. He broke Arnold's record and had nothing else to prove.
Just as well, had Haney competed, Ferrigno would have placed 13th, instead of 12th, at the 1992 Olympia. BTW, he got a special invite for that show, despite all the flap about guys who jumped ship to the WBF being banned for life from the IFBB.
Had he stayed in the WBF, I don't think he would have beaten Strydom (or even Jim Quinn), anyway.
he was better off with weider ,better promotion,mr o was still monster draw,he would have acted as a cartoon imbecile for mcmahon.
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he was better off with weider ,better promotion,mr o was still monster draw,he would have acted as a cartoon imbecile for mcmahon.
With Haney leaving? I'm not so sure. The bidding war for Ferrigno was tense. And McMahon got him. What doomed him (and the WBF) was the feds' hounding him on anabolic use and distribution within the WWF.
A WBF show with Ferrigno (2nd biggest name in bodybuilding) on PPV, with McMahon's promotion, could have launched the WBF ahead of the IFBB (with more guys defecting, in the process), especially with BodyStars on TV every week.
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With Haney leaving? I'm not so sure. The bidding war for Ferrigno was tense. And McMahon got him. What doomed him (and the WBF) was the feds' hounding him on anabolic use and distribution within the WWF.
A WBF show with Ferrigno (2nd biggest name in bodybuilding) on PPV, with McMahon's promotion, could have launched the WBF ahead of the IFBB (with more guys defecting, in the process), especially with BodyStars on TV every week.
YEAH..but still ifbb got stronger even so when wbf failed.
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YEAH..but still ifbb got stronger even so when wbf failed.
That's because the feds were breathing down McMahon's neck. Had they'd been coming for the Weiders, it would have been a whole different story. Taking down McMahon is a far bigger story than destroying Weider.
Without the government's investigation and no testing policy, Ferrigno stays with the WBF; the second WBF championship is far better than it was (maybe even better than the first one); and likely, more IFBB guys defect and the NPC Nationals/USA winners join Team Titan.
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With Haney leaving? I'm not so sure. The bidding war for Ferrigno was tense. And McMahon got him. What doomed him (and the WBF) was the feds' hounding him on anabolic use and distribution within the WWF.
A WBF show with Ferrigno (2nd biggest name in bodybuilding) on PPV, with McMahon's promotion, could have launched the WBF ahead of the IFBB (with more guys defecting, in the process), especially with BodyStars on TV every week.
not to mention the wbf guys were getting paid way better strydom was getting 400k per year plus his contest winnings, haney only made 70k from the olympia that year.
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I read somewhere years ago, that Gary used to let schmoes jerk him off back in Capetown.
That rings a (dusty) bell. Was that the thing about them having to stand/sit parallel to him, both looking forward - eye contact forbidden...? Or there was a blindfold or something..? Or have I got the wrong guy altogether LOL
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That rings a (dusty) bell. Was that the thing about them having to stand/sit parallel to him, both looking forward - eye contact forbidden...? Or there was a blindfold or something..? Or have I got the wrong guy altogether LOL
I think you are on the right track. He was good buddies with Dearth. He was notorious for some creepy endeavors too.