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Title: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on July 08, 2017, 11:48:13 AM
Always amazed by early Michalik pics. Had a great structure. No face bloat. Long limbs...wide shoulders...classic bodybuilding shape. Seems his body went through a ton of fucked up looks in later years...kinda like Gaspari. Looking at these early pics...he looks like he couldve become one of the best. But he never did.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: Tennisballz on July 08, 2017, 11:56:06 AM
Those are pretty much perfect proportions.  Nothing that really can be improved.  I think what I really like about the earlier looks are that they just look healthy.  The physique guys today look like veiny dehydrated corpses with a ton of muscle....a shitty super ripped unhealthy look.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: dj181 on July 08, 2017, 12:02:14 PM
Those are pretty much perfect proportions.  Nothing that really can be improved.  I think what I really like about the earlier looks are that they just look healthy.  The physique guys today look like veiny dehydrated corpses with a ton of muscle....a shitty super ripped unhealthy look.

very good point

what would you say is his bodyfat there?

that's a nice look actually, lean and shapely but not too ripped and dry
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: ratherbebig on July 08, 2017, 12:03:59 PM
chest too small.

up the dosage!!
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: local hero on July 08, 2017, 12:08:55 PM
He didn't gain much after that shot, and he took more drugs than anyone at that time...
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: Nether Animal on July 08, 2017, 01:14:15 PM
That's not Howard

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=441530.0;attach=484976;image)
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: funk51 on July 08, 2017, 01:36:42 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: funk51 on July 08, 2017, 01:37:54 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: Simple Simon on July 08, 2017, 01:57:21 PM
Dint he say he wanted to die onstage right after winning the NOC?

Also he had a car smash and tore his sciatic nerve, fuck me that must have been agony...
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: dr.chimps on July 08, 2017, 02:06:40 PM
Nope. Over-rated, if anything. Did the psycho thingy nicely, tho. 
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: FREAKgeek on July 08, 2017, 02:30:26 PM
That guy was a nut case.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: stuntmovie on July 08, 2017, 04:23:48 PM
BETHERE, Yea, I sorta recall when that accident occurred. I believe that it was shortly after he beat Peter Grymkowski  in one of the major contests which we all hoped Pete would win.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: jwb on July 08, 2017, 04:26:40 PM
Dint he say he wanted to die onstage right after winning the NOC?

Also he had a car smash and tore his sciatic nerve, fuck me that must have been agony...
he never won the night of champions
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: Simple Simon on July 08, 2017, 04:31:24 PM
he never won the night of champions

I didnt say he did.
I said that was his fantasy, winning the show then dying.

He also almost drowned John Defendis

John asked him to train him, he took John down to the beach and waded out waist height and then held John under the water, when he finally let him up he said "Come back and see me when you want to train as hard as you wanted that one last breath of air."
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: jwb on July 08, 2017, 04:46:46 PM
I didnt say he did.
I said that was his fantasy, winning the show then dying.

He also almost drowned John Defendis

John asked him to train him, he took John down to the beach and waded out waist height and then held John under the water, when he finally let him up he said "Come back and see me when you want to train as hard as you wanted that one last breath of air."
he should have picked a better show
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: Disgusted on July 08, 2017, 05:28:39 PM
He got run over by a garbage truck, well his car did and he happen to be in it. So maybe his lack of improvement in later years had something to do with it. For as much drugs as he claimed to take he either had a lot of fake shit or his genetics sucked.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: tommywishbone on July 08, 2017, 05:34:13 PM
Very similar legs to that Arnold guy.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: beakdoctor on July 08, 2017, 06:01:15 PM
He got run over by a garbage truck, well his car did and he happen to be in it. So maybe his lack of improvement in later years had something to do with it. For as much drugs as he claimed to take he either had a lot of fake shit or his genetics sucked.

Maybe his training system was shit. I've heard on many occasions that he was a first class asshole. I remember some kid on Ironage used to train with him. The routines he talked about were completely Insane. Kid kept posting pics to show his development but he looked more and more like shit. Finally the kid looked like total garbage then Minchalik  scammed him out of money in a business deal. The kid completely idolized Minchalik and He just took advantage of it and ruined the kid physically and financially.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: Dokey111 on July 08, 2017, 06:02:56 PM
Yeah he probably could have been at least "somebody" if you know who hadn't come along...
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: stuntmovie on July 08, 2017, 06:06:25 PM
BETHERE, Interesting drowning story!

I've never heard that one but I have heard even stranger bodybuilding stories while sitting around with some pros and  a pound and a half of marijuana  going up in smoke.

I'd do my best to tell them someday, but I'd only wake up and find myself dead the following morning!

And, "YES! I have been told that!!"

"WARNED" may be more appropriate.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: wes on July 08, 2017, 06:38:44 PM
Supposedly had a 27 inch waist in 1972 at the America.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: beakdoctor on July 08, 2017, 06:47:16 PM
Yeah he probably could have been at least "somebody" if you know who hadn't come along...

That's not really the point.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on July 08, 2017, 08:05:15 PM
Looking pretty fucking impressive here. Nobody looks like this on a beach these days. Puts all current pros to shame for sheer impressive bodybuilder physique.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on July 08, 2017, 08:25:33 PM
This training shot of Steve always brings me back to the 80's...training at John Kempers Diamond Gym in Jersey, Bob Bonhams Strong and Shapely and Tom Minichellos Mid City gym in NYC. The days when the gyms had a sokid bunch of guys and gals who trained fucking hard as shit. Trained long...hit bodyparts twice a week. Trained in thermals and froze in the gym in the winter. Basic cycles and hard bland dieting. No excuses. This pic says it all.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: karasan on July 08, 2017, 11:27:50 PM
He seems like a Ecto-Meso, very wide, nice shape but a bit lanky.
To be honest I always wondered what was all fuss about the guy.
Long arms and legs are hard to fill and it's very evident in his pics.
I'm sure he was very impressive in person with his ultra wide shoulders, miniscule waist and long muscular yet a bit slender looking limbs.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: Skylge on July 09, 2017, 12:50:59 AM
Looking pretty fucking impressive here. Nobody looks like this on a beach these days. Puts all current pros to shame for sheer impressive bodybuilder physique.

Seventies builders looked the best. Great photography back then too

Todays bodybuilding is a complete nightmare
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: Skylge on July 09, 2017, 12:52:53 AM
That guy was a nut case.

Class act   

Blew his brains out while his children were in the next room. One of the biggest mental cases of them all

But early in his career he had a solid physique that still looks awesome now 45 years later
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: jwb on July 09, 2017, 01:13:26 AM
He seems like a Ecto-Meso, very wide, nice shape but a bit lanky.
To be honest I always wondered what was all fuss about the guy.
Long arms and legs are hard to fill and it's very evident in his pics.
I'm sure he was very impressive in person with his ultra wide shoulders, miniscule waist and long muscular yet a bit slender looking limbs.
he was a pure skinny boy. Here he is after his accident in the 70's.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: Taffin on July 09, 2017, 01:50:16 AM
Class act   

Blew his brains out while his children were in the next room. One of the biggest mental cases of them all


Yeah, physique notwithstanding the guy was a c0ck... After several hours of him terrorising them by shouting and waving the gun around, he realised that 10 years of bodyweight-only training along with tuna and ramen 6 times a day just wasn't the sort of lifesyle he was after...

And it's weird, because trying to find an article actually outlining his demise wasn't easy - looks like all the muscle-mags left it pretty vague for some reason....?

Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: jwb on July 09, 2017, 01:55:45 AM
He did a tour in Vietnam maybe he had some demons.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: Slapper on July 09, 2017, 05:34:36 AM
Blew his brains out while his children were in the next room. One of the biggest mental cases of them all

If that's the case, Good Riddance!

If you can't make sacrifices for your children, don't bring them into this world. And if you do bring them into this world, make sure you leave them in a better place from where you started. That's the way I see it.

This idiot emotionally crippled his children for the rest of their lives.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: funk51 on July 09, 2017, 07:09:58 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: beakdoctor on July 09, 2017, 09:03:03 AM
he was a pure skinny boy. Here he is after his accident in the 70's.

Still wider than Heath.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: Gym Rat on July 12, 2023, 12:47:37 AM
Thought this thread was going to be about Steve killing himself...
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: BayGBM on July 12, 2023, 02:53:35 AM
Those are pretty much perfect proportions.  Nothing that really can be improved.  I think what I really like about the earlier looks are that they just look healthy.  The physique guys today look like veiny dehydrated corpses with a ton of muscle....a shitty super ripped unhealthy look.

x2.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: BB on July 12, 2023, 02:59:16 AM
Two Steves smittened by Bev Francis -

.

Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 12, 2023, 03:09:07 AM
Thought this thread was going to be about Steve killing himself...
A crazy ending to a crazy man. I would have loved to see Mentzer and Michalik argue over training systems.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 12, 2023, 03:53:06 AM
I don't know if anyone put this up but this is his story of using steroids. http://www.thestacksreader.com/the-power-and-the-gory/
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: IroNat on July 12, 2023, 05:21:57 AM
Michalik looked tremendous for a natty.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: wes on July 12, 2023, 05:24:36 AM
I once asked Bev Francis About Steve and she said he was a total asshole! 
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: ROBOAK on July 12, 2023, 09:07:57 AM
I once asked Bev Francis About Steve and she said he was a total asshole!

did you hit it ?  your cave or hers ?
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: SF1900 on July 12, 2023, 09:45:42 AM
I saw him at a gym in New York. I approached him and we chatted. He took me through a few arm exercises. Seemed like a nice guy. He was still VERY wide.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: njflex on July 12, 2023, 10:11:21 AM
Two Steves smittened by Bev Francis -

.
SCHMOETASTIC....
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: IroNat on July 12, 2023, 11:33:53 AM
His demeanor was good or bad depending on the dose.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: Titus Pullo on July 12, 2023, 11:49:43 AM
Maybe his training system was shit. I've heard on many occasions that he was a first class asshole. I remember some kid on Ironage used to train with him. The routines he talked about were completely Insane. Kid kept posting pics to show his development but he looked more and more like shit. Finally the kid looked like total garbage then Minchalik  scammed him out of money in a business deal. The kid completely idolized Minchalik and He just took advantage of it and ruined the kid physically and financially.

I remember that!

The kid really did idolize Steve.  He posted his routines and, while I can't remember the specifics, they seemed vaguely similar to Mishko's giant set crap with baby weights and mega-volume.

The kid wasn't a bad bodybuilder, but it was obvious he was slowly regressing at best.  He certainly wasn't improving.

He did a show and placed well, but an even thinner, more ripped guy won.  In the video taken from the finals, after the latter won, you could hear Steve screaming, "The most muscular 'stick.'  They gave it to the most muscular stick!"

I knew then that he was a classless clod and royal asshole.

His client eventually grew frustrated with Steve's bullshit training, ditched it and did much better on his own.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 13, 2023, 12:11:25 AM
I once asked Bev Francis About Steve and she said he was a total asshole!
I believe it. He probably would have admitted being one.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: wes on July 13, 2023, 04:31:18 AM
I remember that!

The kid really did idolize Steve.  He posted his routines and, while I can't remember the specifics, they seemed vaguely similar to Mishko's giant set crap with baby weights and mega-volume.

The kid wasn't a bad bodybuilder, but it was obvious he was slowly regressing at best.  He certainly wasn't improving.

He did a show and placed well, but an even thinner, more ripped guy won.  In the video taken from the finals, after the latter won, you could hear Steve screaming, "The most muscular 'stick.'  They gave it to the most muscular stick!"

I knew then that he was a classless clod and royal asshole.

His client eventually grew frustrated with Steve's bullshit training, ditched it and did much better on his own.
That kids training was horrific.....I beat him at the New Englands.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: IroNat on July 13, 2023, 08:34:52 AM
Need pics.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: Titus Pullo on July 13, 2023, 12:08:00 PM
That kids training was horrific.....I beat him at the New Englands.

I don't doubt it.

Do you remember what Michalik had him doing, Tim?

Like I said, I vaguely recall the kid talking about mega giant sets.  I liked a lot of the blokes at Ironage, but their "nothing negative!" policy resulted in tons of ass-kissing, often to the detriment of playing pretend lest you be censured.  In a sense, it was the anti-Getbig of the day...over there, everything and everybody were gum drops and strawberry shortcake; here, it was utter chaos, what with the likes of Dave Mirza and the "squad" stinking up the joint with juvenile humour, thread after thread.

We still have some of that but now it IS in good fun, and the posters who typically deserve lampooning are rightly targeted (*cough*Wankins*cough*).

Eh, I digress.  Semper Fi, carry on.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: wes on July 13, 2023, 01:11:41 PM
I don't doubt it.

Do you remember what Michalik had him doing, Tim?

Like I said, I vaguely recall the kid talking about mega giant sets.  I liked a lot of the blokes at Ironage, but their "nothing negative!" policy resulted in tons of ass-kissing, often to the detriment of playing pretend lest you be censured.  In a sense, it was the anti-Getbig of the day...over there, everything and everybody were gum drops and strawberry shortcake; here, it was utter chaos, what with the likes of Dave Mirza and the "squad" stinking up the joint with juvenile humour, thread after thread.

We still have some of that but now it IS in good fun, and the posters who typically deserve lampooning are rightly targeted (*cough*Wankins*cough*).

Eh, I digress.  Semper Fi, carry on.
Great summation!!  :D

All I remember is that he was using baby weight going from exercise to exercise with horrendous form.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: Sandrock on July 13, 2023, 01:48:50 PM
he was a pure skinny boy. Here he is after his accident in the 70's.

It's insane how narrow he is there vs. when he's bulked up.  Like his clavicles themselves gained 2 inches on each side when on da juice.  Just bizarre.

I think Michalik's bullshit training system was "Intensity or Insanity" and was supposedly something like 100 sets for a muscle group early in the week, 75 sets for it in the middle of the week, and 50 sets for it at the end of the week.  Just total horse shit he pulled out of his ass.  I even remember reading somewhere he'd "rope off a portion of the gym" for him and his training partner and tell the guy "Welcome to Hell".  Just cringeworthy shit.  This is inspiring me to go start a new thread.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: beakdoctor on July 13, 2023, 03:06:35 PM
It's insane how narrow he is there vs. when he's bulked up.  Like his clavicles themselves gained 2 inches on each side when on da juice.  Just bizarre.

I think Michalik's bullshit training system was "Intensity or Insanity" and was supposedly something like 100 sets for a muscle group early in the week, 75 sets for it in the middle of the week, and 50 sets for it at the end of the week.  Just total horse shit he pulled out of his ass.  I even remember reading somewhere he'd "rope off a portion of the gym" for him and his training partner and tell the guy "Welcome to Hell".  Just cringeworthy shit.  This is inspiring me to go start a new thread.

Someone said the pen that was at the front desk to sign members up was made out of a syringe.

Guy sounded like a total asshole. But in retrospect he may have suffered a brain injury during his accident.  Because it seems like he was more reasonable prior to the accident.

But he definitely competed after the accident he just didn't do very well.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: Sandrock on July 13, 2023, 07:13:29 PM
Someone said the pen that was at the front desk to sign members up was made out of a syringe.

Guy sounded like a total asshole. But in retrospect he may have suffered a brain injury during his accident.  Because it seems like he was more reasonable prior to the accident.

But he definitely competed after the accident he just didn't do very well.

That's a really good point.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 14, 2023, 12:26:18 AM
I'm glad he pronounced his name in that video as "Mihalik." I've heard his name pronounced several different ways so now I know.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: Virgil on July 14, 2023, 06:40:39 AM
I remember seeing Steve Michalik at the George Snyder Best in the World Show in suburban philly in around 77or 78.  He was walking with a cane and I remember he was huge but in baggy clothes. It was also the first and only time I saw Arnold, he was sitting at a table signing autographs for a dollar.  I'd never heard of anyone charging for an autograph at the time. I remember meeting Robby and Bill Grant who were both cool with the fans.  Other posters have mentioned on this thread the former Iron age site, i used to post there under the same name as here. I quit the site after getting into a keyboard argument over the so called  Colorado Experiment...I couldn't believe people actually bought into that bullshit marketing ploy.  But I guess Art Jones had the last laugh as it helped him sell alot of nautilus equipment

Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 14, 2023, 05:50:05 PM
I remember seeing Steve Michalik at the George Snyder Best in the World Show in suburban philly in around 77or 78.  He was walking with a cane and I remember he was huge but in baggy clothes. It was also the first and only time I saw Arnold, he was sitting at a table signing autographs for a dollar.  I'd never heard of anyone charging for an autograph at the time. I remember meeting Robby and Bill Grant who were both cool with the fans.  Other posters have mentioned on this thread the former Iron age site, i used to post there under the same name as here. I quit the site after getting into a keyboard argument over the so called  Colorado Experiment...I couldn't believe people actually bought into that bullshit marketing ploy.  But I guess Art Jones had the last laugh as it helped him sell alot of nautilus equipment

I agree with you about the Colorado experiment. I suspect steroids and extra conventional workouts were the reason. If you remember Arthur Jones was part of that experiment too but dropped out claiming illness. I suspect he wasn't advancing fast enough to make people impressed with the machines.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: beakdoctor on July 14, 2023, 08:07:27 PM
I agree with you about the Colorado experiment. I suspect steroids and extra conventional workouts were the reason. If you remember Arthur Jones was part of that experiment too but dropped out claiming illness. I suspect he wasn't advancing fast enough to make people impressed with the machines.

He had Mike and Ray filming Boyer going through the workouts. Boyer showed up clean. Of course he was in shape but man he was skinny. He was about as clean as a bodybuilder can be. The videos were awkward.  Mike following Boyer around, with a clip board, making small talk between sets. They only made it through 3 or 4 workouts before ditching the whole idea of filming Boyers progress. 

I mean this was supposed to be the proof. On film. But of course it didn't workout (no pun intended) Boyer made no progress at all. What did Casey supposedly do in Colorado? 6 workouts?

All those people he had at Nautilus,  Sergio, Casey, Boyer Coe, Mike and Ray. And not once could they repeat the results of the famous experiment.  Just excuse after excuse.  FFS he was paying them to workout and eat!  The worlds best bodybuilders and nada.
Title: Re: Early Steve Michalik shot...underated
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 15, 2023, 12:52:40 AM
He had Mike and Ray filming Boyer going through the workouts. Boyer showed up clean. Of course he was in shape but man he was skinny. He was about as clean as a bodybuilder can be. The videos were awkward.  Mike following Boyer around, with a clip board, making small talk between sets. They only made it through 3 or 4 workouts before ditching the whole idea of filming Boyers progress. 

I mean this was supposed to be the proof. On film. But of course it didn't workout (no pun intended) Boyer made no progress at all. What did Casey supposedly do in Colorado? 6 workouts?

All those people he had at Nautilus,  Sergio, Casey, Boyer Coe, Mike and Ray. And not once could they repeat the results of the famous experiment.  Just excuse after excuse.  FFS he was paying them to workout and eat!  The worlds best bodybuilders and nada.
That is how you prove your "scientific" hypertrophy theory. Just delete the results that don't match your expected results.