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Title: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 09, 2017, 05:00:09 PM
A year before the bottom dropped out  ;D shit would never be the same
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: Slik on July 09, 2017, 05:04:45 PM
Jesus. Pointing even back then.
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: Tha Grim Lifter on July 09, 2017, 06:14:09 PM
He was right. Mike does have a big belly.
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 09, 2017, 06:22:27 PM
He was right. Mike does have a big belly.

 ;D I was waiting for someone else to notice it
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: Natural_O on July 09, 2017, 09:20:01 PM
Great pic, that looks like it was from the 1979 Mr. Olympia.
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: tommywishbone on July 09, 2017, 09:59:00 PM
WTH? A GH belly before HGH was actually really available. Genentech's Protropin received FDA approval in October of 1985.
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: Eric2 on July 09, 2017, 10:11:17 PM
A year before the bottom dropped out  ;D shit would never be the same

Notice how trained Arnold is for the camera shot. He always knows where it is so he can smile and look like a million bucks.
Mike is either looking at another camera or unaware.
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: dj181 on July 10, 2017, 01:28:52 AM
2 fine fellas of outstanding GERMANIC ANCESTRY  8)
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: ratherbebig on July 10, 2017, 01:35:27 AM
arnold getting the upper hand in that hand shake
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: bigbychoices on July 14, 2017, 10:46:36 AM
they used cadavaer  growth hormone.  got it from dead people. thats all they had. so if the person had a disease or something there was a good chance you got it too. i still think mike used insulin. you really get the gut from insulin not from gh. but if you combine the 2 your gut gets even bigger.
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: dj181 on July 14, 2017, 11:17:41 AM
they used cadavaer  growth hormone.  got it from dead people. thats all they had. so if the person had a disease or something there was a good chance you got it too. i still think mike used insulin. you really get the gut from insulin not from gh. but if you combine the 2 your gut gets even bigger.

what was the most that dyke weighed on stage?

210 or so

in 76-77 he weighed like 200 on stage and looked his best

so it seems that the slin just put 10 or more pounds on his belly, coz he pecs were actually smaller in 79-80 than they were in 76-77
 
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: Megalodon on July 14, 2017, 11:49:57 AM
Mentzer arnoldized. The original mentzer starts looking like a bad posture photoshop.
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: Hypertrophy on July 14, 2017, 07:44:33 PM
they used cadavaer  growth hormone.  got it from dead people. thats all they had. so if the person had a disease or something there was a good chance you got it too. i still think mike used insulin. you really get the gut from insulin not from gh. but if you combine the 2 your gut gets even bigger.

bigbychoices- you really know your stuff! I found this medical paper from 1987 (!) already showing the problems with growth hormone taken from human cadavers!

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3474545 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3474545)

As for insulin, bodybuilder Tim Belknap used it because he was a diabetic and was actually huge for the time. Dave Palumbo wrote an interesting article about this. Since Belknap was around the same time as Mentzer I wouldn't be surprised if he started experimenting with insulin as well.

www.davepalumbo.com/members-dpdotcom/MuscularArchives2003/INSULIN%20ARTICLE.pdf (http://www.davepalumbo.com/members-dpdotcom/MuscularArchives2003/INSULIN%20ARTICLE.pdf)



Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: Hypertrophy on July 14, 2017, 07:56:04 PM
Mentzer arnoldized. The original mentzer starts looking like a bad posture photoshop.

Really good Photoshop- and that is exactly why Mentzer never looked as imposing as Arnold, proportion wise.
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: BSN on July 15, 2017, 11:08:49 AM
A year later..
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: The Scott on July 16, 2017, 10:41:19 AM
Jesus. Pointing even back then.

He was most likely thinking along the lines of popular T-shirt of the day, "I'm With Stupid". 

Both look good and I can only wish that Mike had taken his frustration out preparing for the next Olympia instead of whining about the '80.

Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: tommywishbone on July 16, 2017, 11:49:55 AM
they used cadavaer  growth hormone.  got it from dead people. thats all they had. so if the person had a disease or something there was a good chance you got it too. i still think mike used insulin. you really get the gut from insulin not from gh. but if you combine the 2 your gut gets even bigger.

I'm aware of the talk of cadaver based HGH, also the use of Rhesus monkey "HGH" Evidently the Rhesus monkey is our closest DNA-based relative. I was competing in AAU bodybuilding and powerlifting in 1978... been involved in both sports ever since... I've never, not even one time, seen either one of those products in real life. Could bodybuilders get them? Probably. Would they have been incredibly expensive and extremely rare? Hell yes.
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: Schnauzer on July 16, 2017, 11:54:49 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=633524.0;attach=734562;image)  (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/08/1412802137119_Image_galleryImage_EXCLUSIVE_COLEMAN_RAYNER_.JPG)
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: PJim on July 16, 2017, 11:54:55 AM
A year later..


Bar chest, Mike is considerably thicker and more conditioned.
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: Eric2 on July 16, 2017, 12:03:01 PM
Bar chest, Mike is considerably thicker and more conditioned.

Yep, bigger legs, bigger forearms, upper arms look bigger, calves are bigger than Arnold's as well. Better conditioning all around, this shot makes Arnold look like he is soft and small when contrasted with Mike.
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: bigbychoices on July 17, 2017, 06:01:38 AM
yes they had access to them both. the rhesus monkey hormone was used actually more often than the cadeavar  stuff because they assumed it was safer ( you might get whatever the human died from when you used the human stuff) dont really know how well the rhesus stuff worked if at all. seen some athletes who used it in other sports and it did make their hands and face change alot. ( and no not from dieting) if you had access to a university where they did studies you could get both kinds. and like anything else the black market was widely available back then as well.
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: Rmj11 on April 03, 2023, 01:35:51 AM
Yep, bigger legs, bigger forearms, upper arms look bigger, calves are bigger than Arnold's as well. Better conditioning all around, this shot makes Arnold look like he is soft and small when contrasted with Mike.

Wrong. When seen from a side view you can clearly see Arnold was way bigger and better than the manlet mentzer. It's not even a debate,
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: Royalty on April 03, 2023, 02:33:25 AM
I bet that Mike Mentzer would’ve been fine if he had placed 2nd. Placing 5th was the real problem for him.


Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: Rambone on April 03, 2023, 02:44:04 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=633524.0;attach=734562;image)

Did Mentzer invent this pose? Combined with the GH gut, dude was way ahead of his time
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: Royalty on April 03, 2023, 02:51:02 AM
Did Mentzer invent this pose? Combined with the GH gut, dude was way ahead of his time

It would be funny to know that Arnold, while smiling, was actually trying to crush Mentzer’s hand during that handshake moment
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: robcguns on April 03, 2023, 03:28:02 AM
Wrong. When seen from a side view you can clearly see Arnold was way bigger and better than the manlet mentzer. It's not even a debate,

This.
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: Royalty on April 03, 2023, 05:06:14 AM
If Arnold won the front poses and the side poses, and Dickerson won the back poses...

Mentzer really should’ve just focused on building up his back, and set his sights on beating Dickerson the following year.
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mike Mentzer in 1979
Post by: Rmj11 on April 03, 2023, 08:36:51 AM
If Arnold won the front poses and the side poses, and Dickerson won the back poses...

Mentzer really should’ve just focused on building up his back, and set his sights on beating Dickerson the following year.

Nah. That would mean mentzer would have to actually work on his body. He didn't like that hence why he quit.