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Title: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: cephissus on July 16, 2017, 01:08:46 AM
why is the fitness industry rotten to the core?

people believe that being in shape will help them relate to others, which is the case, but to a very limited extent.  however, "fitness experts" make a living by selling others the myth that being in shape has a huge effect on their relations with others.  there is only one person for whom this myth is "reality", and that is the fitness expert himself, who receives money and admiration by being a living example and teacher for others.

the student typically has no desire to become a teacher, though, and this is the heart of the scam: the path only works if the student becomes the teacher.  otherwise, even the most successful student fails to impress others, except a small amount.

thus the fitness industry resembles other scam-realms like monastic living, self-help guruism, etc.  note: i am not talking about people like coach, who prepare athletes for competition, but people who sell a "fitness lifestyle," such as ordinary personal trainers and youtube gurus.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: ratherbebig on July 16, 2017, 01:13:42 AM
i love the fitness industry.

a scam it is not.

there's great products being offered and being invented all the time.

its awesome that people can find a work in the industry and that people can be motivated.

and the money that comes in that enables bodybuilders etc to compete fulltime and not need other jobs its just great. and contests being arranged like mr olympia etc

even back in arnolds days when he didnt have any money he sold fitness stuff so he could start his career which lead to him being able to make movies etc instead of being poor and having to go back to austria and drive a truck.

in short I APPLAUD the fitness industry and all the great things it brought with it. without it we wouldnt have arnold we wouldnt have professional bodybuilding we wouldnt have getbig.

Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: falco on July 16, 2017, 04:11:34 AM
Most people find fitness athetes excessively muscular, and nut cases most of the time. I havent met a fitness chick that didnt borderline squizophrenia.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 16, 2017, 04:22:34 AM
In order to sell their products, companies promote them. It's called a free market.  ::)
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: lilhawk1 on July 16, 2017, 04:29:22 AM
It's all about attention for 99.9% of these people.  It's getting worse with the women I see.  They all compete after working out for a month, and suddenly they have a 'coach', and are on a 'team'.  Since when does anyone need to pay someone to be their coach for bodybuilding, fitness, etc?  You're a complete moron if you can't find information on dieting, or working out without paying some idiot who is too lazy to get a real job.  These so called coaches also pay someone to coach them, then give the same diet program, and workout to their clientele.  Unreal.  
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Nether Animal on July 16, 2017, 04:33:18 AM
SUpplements can't survive on their own merits - its all a sham. Show people something they can't have (drug physique) and tell them they can get there with X product. It's all about pilfering the wallets of the ignorant before they wise up (See Animal Pak ads with McGrath aiming at stupid kids, etc.) This extends to people training others, the whole fake natty thing, etc.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Royalty on July 16, 2017, 04:45:26 AM
Remember 2 or 3 summers ago when some of the idiots from "Shredz" were posting here? They were bragging about money, muscle, women, success ect... And they claimed that they basically had a bunch of reinforcers known as the "Goon Squad".

That showed how truly pitiful some people in this industry truly are.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Skeletor on July 16, 2017, 04:49:44 AM
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Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Royalty on July 16, 2017, 04:53:38 AM
HaHa.

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Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Skeletor on July 16, 2017, 05:00:15 AM
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Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: ratherbebig on July 16, 2017, 05:01:14 AM
supplements are great.

and coaches, personal trainers, gurus etc make a lot of sense.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 16, 2017, 05:07:31 AM
Backed by flip flop and robe wearing scienticians.

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and his face says "I'm trying hard not to LMFAO"
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: ratherbebig on July 16, 2017, 05:10:09 AM
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Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 16, 2017, 05:24:56 AM
It's predominantly a scam industry but, as dropping plates said it is the free market and no one is under any compulsion to buy these products, and, if you're dumb enough to do so, it's your fault.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: ratherbebig on July 16, 2017, 05:28:39 AM
a scam industry.

kinda like the watch industry.

perfume industry.

food industry.

electronics industry.

fashion industry.

etc etc

why not make threads about that and whine and bitch a little more?

make sure to follow it up with WELL I AM NOT BUYING INTO IT, IM NOT EASY TO FOOL! NO-WAY!

 ::)
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: ratherbebig on July 16, 2017, 05:31:50 AM
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Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: ratherbebig on July 16, 2017, 05:34:58 AM
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i want to look clean and smart

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and i want to be james bond

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Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Parker on July 16, 2017, 05:35:23 AM
Most people find fitness athetes excessively muscular, and nut cases most of the time. I havent met a fitness chick that didnt borderline squizophrenia.
Don't you talk about Lobstah like that!!!
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: bigbychoices on July 16, 2017, 05:45:20 AM
yes it is sad that something most of us enjoy is nothing but a scam. as a kid i believed all those ads in the magazines about getting muscles and that pros ate this used this machine took these vitamines etc. as an adult i know better. lol. yes its a free market and people can buy what they want but the ads should not be able to be such lies. they should have to tell the truth. there are so many gullable lazy humans out there always looking for the magic pill or machine or anything else that says get in shape in 1 minute a year while eating anything you want. lol. i wish it would all go back to the 60s and 70s ( yes i know they had scams then too but not nearly as many)
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: funk51 on July 16, 2017, 05:53:56 AM
and his face says "I'm trying hard not to LMFAO"
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Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 16, 2017, 06:23:28 AM
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Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 16, 2017, 06:36:19 AM
To be fair, much of the problem stems from the fact that the one supplement that does work, steroids, is illegal. This precludes having an honest discussion about supplementation. We are left with silly debates about things that have marginal, if any, benefits like nutrient timing and micromanaging macros.

If steroids were legal, do you think all these pros would be pushing stupid fart powders? Of course not. They would be pushing steroids.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 16, 2017, 07:54:17 AM
why is the fitness industry rotten to the core?

people believe that being in shape will help them relate to others, which is the case, but to a very limited extent.  however, "fitness experts" make a living by selling others the myth that being in shape has a huge effect on their relations with others.  there is only one person for whom this myth is "reality", and that is the fitness expert himself, who receives money and admiration by being a living example and teacher for others.

the student typically has no desire to become a teacher, though, and this is the heart of the scam: the path only works if the student becomes the teacher.  otherwise, even the most successful student fails to impress others, except a small amount.

thus the fitness industry resembles other scam-realms like monastic living, self-help guruism, etc.  note: i am not talking about people like coach, who prepare athletes for competition, but people who sell a "fitness lifestyle," such as ordinary personal trainers and youtube gurus.




The fitness industry is NOT A SCAM.  It really depends on how you conduct business.  Despite what some of you say, I made a lot of money selling supplements and fitness equipment.  That's why I ran Caliber Fitness Solutions for over 17 years.


Now in terms of fitness experts, its a touchy subject because quite frankly if that person motivates or gets that person to lose weight or build muscle then he's done his fucking job.  It doesn't matter if he has them picking cotton in a field to work their abs, sit in a sweat tent, etc.  Its up to the individual to decide whether the advice is good or bad.  Everyone is an adult so let them decide
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: dj181 on July 16, 2017, 08:05:26 AM
fuck advertisers and the horse they rode in on

also the pharmaceutical industry is evil as hell

Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: ratherbebig on July 16, 2017, 08:09:51 AM
i wonder how many of you would've picked up a dumbbell if it wasnt for those ads.

yeah you didnt end up like arnold, but you did end up working out.

in other words you have the fitness industry to thank.

and a place like this - getbig - wouldnt be here without hte industry either.

so you ungrateful fucking morons should shut the fuck up.

if you hate the industry so much then LOG OFF AND NEVER COME BACK. because this is a fitness industry MSG BOARD

you dumb fucks.



Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: ratherbebig on July 16, 2017, 08:10:50 AM
there's also an underlining msg here

you're against marketing and capitalism

meaning youre a bunch of COMMUNISTS and ANTI AMERICANS

which is even more disgusting.

so not only should you leave getbig. you should LEAVE AMERICA.

Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: dj181 on July 16, 2017, 08:31:44 AM
I started training in order to improve my sport perfrormance

not for gayass faggybuilding
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: hipolito mejia on July 16, 2017, 08:55:37 AM
gonna get a hot chick, just need to get a new scent

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Well.  Everyone woman likes a man that smells good , they often let you know. ( try buying some scent and see for yourself  )

Buying supps to get big arms and great abs is still a scam sadly.  
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 16, 2017, 09:00:08 AM
As far as supplement use goes I think it's at
an all time high. People here say competitors and pros
don't use them, that only the clueless fall for them, but that is false. Everyone uses a shitload of OTC supplements today. The gurus recommend them and believe in them for health and gains.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: hipolito mejia on July 16, 2017, 09:03:31 AM
why is the fitness industry rotten to the core?

people believe that being in shape will help them relate to others, which is the case, but to a very limited extent.  however, "fitness experts" make a living by selling others the myth that being in shape has a huge effect on their relations with others.  there is only one person for whom this myth is "reality", and that is the fitness expert himself, who receives money and admiration by being a living example and teacher for others.

the student typically has no desire to become a teacher, though, and this is the heart of the scam: the path only works if the student becomes the teacher.  otherwise, even the most successful student fails to impress others, except a small amount.

thus the fitness industry resembles other scam-realms like monastic living, self-help guruism, etc.  note: i am not talking about people like coach, who prepare athletes for competition, but people who sell a "fitness lifestyle," such as ordinary personal trainers and youtube gurus.

The fact that fat, out of shape people are having a great time at cookouts, lakes ,bars, McDonnalds lol , amusement parks,the beach.  
Makes you wonder if being a muscular stud is really that worthy in the everyday life, As fitness and guru folks make it look on YouTube
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 16, 2017, 09:46:25 AM
The fact that fat, out of shape people are having a great time at cookouts, lakes ,bars, McDonnalds lol , amusement parks,the beach.  
Makes you wonder if being a muscular stud is really that worthy in the everyday life, As fitness and guru folks make it look on YouTube


There is a happy medium where you can work out and eat well most of the time but not be such an obsessive freak that you can't occasionally cut loose.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 16, 2017, 10:23:32 AM
I started training in order to improve my sport perfrormance

not for gayass faggybuilding

Yet you frequently find an excuse to suck Mike Mentzer's dick...
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 16, 2017, 10:29:26 AM
A lot of scams going on.

1. Celebrities and people in general going on steroids but want the credit for a physique they wouldn't have without the assist.

2. Personal fitness trainers with one or two week internet certificates that think that piece of paper makes them an expert on working out.

3.  All the supplements that use steroid guys in their ads that deceive a whole new generation that actually thinks the pill or powder will make a difference on how they look.

4. All the new exercises personal trainers make up as their signature contribution to the fitness field. I'm seeing some strange stuff in the gym these days. It's all good but people new to working out think doing a "Bulgarian one legged squat with a twist" is the secret weapon.

5. Maybe back to one but guys who are juicing advising others how to work out when they them self look like crap off the juice.

On a side note there is a near by run down city about 30 miles from me. Driving by a broken down play ground was a group of black guys working out there. They were doing pull ups, push ups, dips, body weight rows, free squat, burpees and other body weight exercises. They looked amazing, ripped and in shape. No gimmicks, supplements, steroids, personal trainers and expert research to get them there. Just a work ethic and pride.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: dj181 on July 16, 2017, 10:29:40 AM
dyke splentzer
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 16, 2017, 10:31:34 AM
dyke job 181
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: dj181 on July 16, 2017, 10:38:46 AM
dripping piss  :D
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 16, 2017, 10:49:24 AM
dripping piss  :D

no, it's dropping pilates or dropping pants
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: hipolito mejia on July 16, 2017, 11:09:32 AM

There is a happy medium where you can work out and eat well most of the time but not be such an obsessive freak that you can't occasionally cut loose.


Exactly. 
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: dj181 on July 16, 2017, 11:46:17 AM
no, it's dropping pants

so that's what you do for your black masters, huh droopy panties?
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 16, 2017, 12:21:43 PM
so that's what you do for your black masters, huh droopy panties?

Are you impersonating Andreisdachimp?
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: cephissus on July 16, 2017, 12:38:50 PM
i love the fitness industry.

a scam it is not.

there's great products being offered and being invented all the time.

such as?

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its awesome that people can find a work in the industry and that people can be motivated.

Why?  People can be motivated and find work doing anything.  How does the fitness industry relate to other industries?  It's near the bottom, almost completely worthless.

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and the money that comes in that enables bodybuilders etc to compete fulltime and not need other jobs its just great. and contests being arranged like mr olympia etc

bodybuilding contests are actually the lowest point in the "fitness world": the competitors are not healthy, the "competition" has degenerated from athletics to "looks only", they aren't attractive, they utterly alienate everyone except young people who have a healthy drive to improve their strength.  

bodybuilders make a living by bridging this healthy drive to an utterly perverse "ideal".  just look at the ludicrous eulogizing ("going to war", " whatever it takes", etc.) which only makes sense when muscular appearance is placed as one's highest value.  you only have to look at the ordinary purpose of muscle (to move the body) to see that bodybuilding makes no sense, it leads to muscular obesity, posing (i.e. standing still), organ and joint degeneration, horrific stamina, etc.

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even back in arnolds days when he didnt have any money he sold fitness stuff so he could start his career which lead to him being able to make movies etc instead of being poor and having to go back to austria and drive a truck.

so arnold got out of the fitness industry as soon as he could.  good for him.  he realized that only mentally ill pursue fitness as a main goal, and chose more sensible ways to reach his original goal, which was "to be remembered for thousands of years".  as such, fitness obviously took a distant back seat to his other aspirations, which is how it starts out for everyone.

only when people get sucked into the fitness world and, with no means of escape, lose track of their original aspirations do you end up with the modern absurdities that are supplements, lifestyle guruism, bodybuilding contests, and the like.

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in short I APPLAUD the fitness industry and all the great things it brought with it. without it we wouldnt have arnold we wouldnt have professional bodybuilding we wouldnt have getbig.

getbig's best characteristic is its disdain for and relentless critique of bodybuilding.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 16, 2017, 01:33:40 PM
Errrr Cep.. one thing, RBB was just trolling like a maniac :D
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: OLKE_TEXAS on July 16, 2017, 02:17:32 PM
RATHERBEBIG is.bringing down the HAMMER in this thread lol :o
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Shizzo on July 16, 2017, 02:29:32 PM
Life is a scam. You are indoctrinated at birth. You can fight it all you want, but you will always fall into someone's pre conceived notion or stereotype. Nobody is an original.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 16, 2017, 04:01:38 PM
I love these "fitness industry is a scam" threads that pop up every once in while. Shows the ignorance and narrow mindedness of 90% of the posters on this site.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 16, 2017, 04:06:37 PM
The one's you see that are on IG posting only themselves and their asses and bodybuilding shots and selfies are the same ones that give the industry a bad name....that IS NOT the fitness industry, that's the scam. 90% of those clowns that are "fitness celebrities" have no clue they just know it makes them money.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 16, 2017, 04:12:46 PM
The one's you see that are on IG posting only themselves and their asses and bodybuilding shots and selfies are the same ones that give the industry a bad name....that IS NOT the fitness industry, that's the scam. 90% of those clowns that are "fitness celebrities" have no clue they just know it makes them money.

How can you blame them for that by calling them 'clowns'? Being relevant on social media is the foundation of their success / income. It's pathetic, but that's how it works.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 16, 2017, 04:13:45 PM
I love these "fitness industry is a scam" threads that pop up every once in while. Shows the ignorance and narrow mindedness of 90% of the posters on this site.


I wouldn't say this but a guy on this board I message with said without suspected steroid use you be nothing but a fat slob with a big bench. He said all the athletes that work out in your gym you are taking credit for their athletic success like they would be nothing without you.  What should I say to him?
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Shizzo on July 16, 2017, 04:19:58 PM

I wouldn't say this but a guy on this board I message with said with suspected steroid use you be nothing but a fat slob with a big bench. He said all the athletes that work out in your gym you are taking credit for their athletic success like they would be nothing without you.  What should I say to him?
Don't go there man. That's low, even by Getbig standards. Coach is providing a good service to young people. Sure he makes money, but he is keeping kids off of the streets, getting them fit, and trying to help them realize a dream.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 16, 2017, 04:21:22 PM
Don't go there man. That's low, even by Getbig standards. Coach is providing a good service to young people. Sure he makes money, but he is keeping kids off of the streets, getting them fit, and trying to help them realize a dream.

Kids off the streets? I didn't know his gym was free to disadvantaged kids. I retract everything. Any rumors I heard are just that. Rumors.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Shizzo on July 16, 2017, 04:23:25 PM
Kids off the streets? I didn't know his gym was free to disadvantaged kids. I retract everything.
Idle time is the Devil's playground. Structure can mean everything.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 16, 2017, 04:24:59 PM
Kids off the streets? I didn't know his gym was free to disadvantaged kids. I retract everything.

LOL, they can't even effort his high rates
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 16, 2017, 04:26:08 PM
LOL, they can't even effort his high rates

Let me stop you right there. He is getting kids off the streets that need structure.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Shizzo on July 16, 2017, 04:27:02 PM
LOL, they can't even effort his high rates
Did you forget the part where Coach said he basically worked for free to coach a high school football team? I love ragging on coach as much as anyone. But to say he isn't passionate about what he does, is flat out wrong.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 16, 2017, 04:27:18 PM

I wouldn't say this but a guy on this board I message with said with suspected steroid use you be nothing but a fat slob with a big bench. He said all the athletes that work out in your gym you are taking credit for their athletic success like they would be nothing without you.  What should I say to him?

That's like saying "an anonymous source said Trump colluded with Russia" it's does't mean anything without a name but to answer your question, I don't take credit for anything except for helping them get ready for their season and even then it depends on who it is. Why are you lumping in general fitness with athlete  development or preparedness? It's not the same.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 16, 2017, 04:30:22 PM
How can you blame them for that by calling them 'clowns'? Being relevant on social media is the foundation of their success / income. It's pathetic, but that's how it works.

They call themselves "fitness experts" or trainers but if you go through their social media it's mostly pics of themselves and little if any of their clientele
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 16, 2017, 04:33:39 PM
That's like saying "an anonymous source said Trump colluded with Russia" it's does't mean anything without a name but to answer your question, I don't take credit for anything except for helping them get ready for their season and even then it depends on who it is. Why are you lumping in general fitness with athlete  development or preparedness? It's not the same.

Just having fun coach.  You have to admit all the guys that take credit for athletes working out in their gyms are huge. One guy in my area opened up a gym in an affluent area where many of the NY Giants and NY Jets lived.  Of course being the only game in town they all worked out there. Then because of all the NFL players that lifted there division I athletes started going there thinking there must be some magic going on.  Now he has a striving business training division I athletes looking to go into the pros. Everyone that gets signed becomes his success story.

Coach we are two of the only conservatives on this board.  






















Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 16, 2017, 04:36:48 PM
I do find it annoying when coaches and trainers use the phrase "my athletes."

It comes across as very self-important.

There's this one chick who has an endurance podcast. She can't go five minutes without saying it. If you had to drink a shot every time she said it. You'd die of alcohol poisoning by the end of the podcast.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 16, 2017, 04:37:43 PM
Let me stop you right there. He is getting kids off the streets that need structure.

Did you forget the part where Coach said he basically worked for free to coach a high school football team? I love ragging on coach as much as anyone. But to say he isn't passionate about what he does, is flat out wrong.

Forget? I can't read EVERY thread. If he really does so, than I take my words back and salute him for that. Yes, sport activities are a great way to work on the inner person.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 16, 2017, 04:41:31 PM
They call themselves "fitness experts" or trainers but if you go through their social media it's mostly pics of themselves and little if any of their clientele

That's a good point. Many competitors start coaching right away after they did their first show. On the other hand, you have to start somewhere, like every coach/trainer once did.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 16, 2017, 04:46:58 PM
Just having fun coach.  You have to admit all the guys that take credit for athletes working out in their gyms are huge. One guy in my area opened up a gym in an affluent area where many of the NY Giants and NY Jets lived.  Of course being the only game in town they all worked out there. Then because of all the NFL players that lifted there division I athletes started going there thinking there must be some magic going on.  Now he has a striving business training division I athletes looking to go into the pros. Everyone that gets signed becomes his success story.

Coach we are two of the only conservatives on this board.  
























I think its fine to market that "so and so" trained with us this off-season, etc I also think it's perfectly fine for a coach to use that athlete for marketing purposes if you helped him prepare for his NFL/Pro days combine because that is something a trainer can take direct credit for, you helped that athlete get ti that next level by preparing him for testing but a trainer shouldn't take credit for the direct success of that players career unless You've worked with him year after year every off season or since at least high school.

At the High School level I'm with my kids for a full year, year after year from the end of the season to the beginning of the next...from Nov to Nov. Incoming freshman to seniors. I have the biggest influence on them as a coach because I'm with them longer and any other coach even the Head coach. 
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 16, 2017, 04:57:09 PM
I think its fine to market that "so and so" trained with us this off-season, etc I also think it's perfectly fine for a coach to use that athlete for marketing purposes if you helped him prepare for his NFL/Pro days combine because that is something a trainer can take direct credit for, you helped that athlete get ti that next level by preparing him for testing but a trainer shouldn't take credit for the direct success of that players career unless You've worked with him year after year every off season or since at least high school.

At the High School level I'm with my kids for a full year, year after year from the end of the season to the beginning of the next...from Nov to Nov. Incoming freshman to seniors. I have the biggest influence on them as a coach because I'm with them longer and any other coach even the Head coach. 

Keep up the good work with the high school kids.  Glad to hear that. Wish you success with the coaching. You are one of the good guys on the board.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: NelsonMuntz on July 16, 2017, 05:55:01 PM
Kids off the streets? I didn't know his gym was free to disadvantaged kids. I retract everything. Any rumors I heard are just that. Rumors.

Actually in Coache's defense he posted in that charity thread that he also volunteers alot of his gym time and training to local kids, not just for $$$
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Kahn.N.Singh on July 16, 2017, 06:18:07 PM
Did you forget the part where Coach said he basically worked for free to coach a high school football team?

Pro boner, with no posterior motives?
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 16, 2017, 06:43:00 PM
That's a good point. Many competitors start coaching right away after the did their first show. On the other hand, you have to start somewhere, like every coach/trainer once did.

Agree 100% just need have a little more than basic knowledge and knowledge of the actual REAL fitness industry and at least 3+ years of solid hands on training with proven results with their clients.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Shizzo on July 16, 2017, 06:45:11 PM
Pro boner, with no posterior motives?
I thought about it, but I wasn't going to go there  ;D
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 16, 2017, 07:25:45 PM
Pro boner, with no posterior motives?

In prison you'd be killed for thoughts like that. Is there something you wish to discuss regarding your nefarious thoughts about kids....who are mostly bigger than you?
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Shizzo on July 16, 2017, 07:29:25 PM
In prison you'd be killed for thoughts like that. Is there something you wish to discuss regarding your nefarious thoughts about kids....who are mostly bigger than you?
Coach getting his buttons pushed in this thread.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 16, 2017, 07:35:36 PM
Coach getting his buttons pushed in this thread.

Nope, not that hard to see the ones that make comments like that who they really are. That's two so far.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Kahn.N.Singh on July 16, 2017, 08:48:01 PM
In prison you'd be killed for thoughts like that. Is there something you wish to discuss regarding your nefarious thoughts about kids....who are mostly bigger than you?

Coach, forgive me for saying this, because I'm a big fan, but you'd be seated on the short bus wearing a bib for drawing that disgusting implication.

Rather, the sentence used a play on words to question whether your altruistic actions were motivated from hidden self-interest (e.g., if it drew gainful attention to your company).

That's all. Yuck.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 16, 2017, 10:47:58 PM
Coach, forgive me for saying this, because I'm a big fan, but you'd be seated on the short bus wearing a bib for drawing that disgusting implication.

Rather, the sentence used a play on words to question whether your altruistic actions were motivated from hidden self-interest (e.g., if it drew gainful attention to your company).

That's all. Yuck.


Your own words not mine..

"Pro boner, with no posterior motives?"
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 16, 2017, 11:46:01 PM
Agree 100% just need have a little more than basic knowledge and knowledge of the actual REAL fitness industry and at least 3+ years of solid hands on training with proven results with their clients.

Yeah, I've seen some weird acrobats & cats over the years, who thought they knew it all. Well, you see this in every industry...
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: falco on July 17, 2017, 01:49:23 AM
Remember 2 or 3 summers ago when some of the idiots from "Shredz" were posting here? They were bragging about money, muscle, women, success ect... And they claimed that they basically had a bunch of reinforcers known as the "Goon Squad".

That showed how truly pitiful some people in this industry truly are.


Life was so great, they had to GAY FOR PAY.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Griffith on July 17, 2017, 01:58:01 AM
If you're lean and look 'toned' with a narrow waist, that's all that's needed really to look good in real life.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: falco on July 17, 2017, 02:13:27 AM
there's also an underlining msg here

you're against marketing and capitalism

meaning youre a bunch of COMMUNISTS and ANTI AMERICANS

which is even more disgusting.

so not only should you leave getbig. you should LEAVE AMERICA.



I am not in America, and the fitness industry is still a SCAM.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: MORTALCOIL on July 17, 2017, 03:31:28 AM
If the fitness industry wasn't a scam, it wouldn't be an industry to start with. C'mon, as everyone here probably, I tried to find out as much as possible about nutrition, training, etc.....How much do yo really need to know to get satisfying results? I had a good coach (who trained professional athletes). Himself agreed that after a 10-hour course, you knew 90% of what you needed to know and the rest was debatable. Same with nutrition. Some supplements might be useful....if you're not eating according to your training. It come in handy if you're lazy (and we all are at one point). As someone said, the only "supplement" that drastically changes the picture are steroids (I'm a natty). So if they were legal, it would be marketed as the only real game-changing supplement and clients would have to make up their mind if they want to go that road or not. As simple as that. Training and "growing" doesn't need much of a financial investment in fact.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on July 17, 2017, 03:43:08 AM
Just having fun coach.  You have to admit all the guys that take credit for athletes working out in their gyms are huge. One guy in my area opened up a gym in an affluent area where many of the NY Giants and NY Jets lived.  Of course being the only game in town they all worked out there. Then because of all the NFL players that lifted there division I athletes started going there thinking there must be some magic going on.  Now he has a striving business training division I athletes looking to go into the pros. Everyone that gets signed becomes his success story.

Coach we are two of the only conservatives on this board.  
























Are you talking about Joe Defranco?
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Rimstinger on July 17, 2017, 05:39:55 AM
The biggest scam the fitness industry relates to the fact they use their image which was 100% achieved via drug abuse to sell "natural supplements" as the secret to achieving that body.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 17, 2017, 05:44:52 AM
The biggest scam the fitness industry relates to the fact they use their image which was 100% achieved via drug abuse to sell "natural supplements" as the secret to achieving that body.

Another is promoting various workout machines as weight loss tools when in reality exercise is an extremely inefficient way to lose weight as compared to limiting calories.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: MORTALCOIL on July 17, 2017, 05:51:33 AM
Another is promoting various workout machines as weight loss tools when in reality exercise is an extremely inefficient way to lose weight as compared to limiting calories.

Same for coaches pushing long session of mid-intensity cardio, circuit training, etc....Remember that less than 10 years ago, the industry was pushing the Power Plate.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 17, 2017, 06:07:12 AM
Same for coaches pushing long session of mid-intensity cardio, circuit training, etc....Remember that less than 10 years ago, the industry was pushing the Power Plate.

Why do dips using a chair when you can do them on a piece of exercise equipment that costs thousands?

(http://www.power-plate.fr/files/dips-3x7IO0G.jpg)
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: MORTALCOIL on July 17, 2017, 06:09:09 AM
Why do dips using a chair when you can do them on a piece of exercise equipment that costs thousands?

(http://www.power-plate.fr/files/dips-3x7IO0G.jpg)

Back then, my first thought was: if being on a vibrating device makes you fit, daily users of the subway should be fuckin' jacked, no exception.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 17, 2017, 06:19:56 AM
Back then, my first thought was: if being on a vibrating device makes you fit, daily users of the subway should be fuckin' jacked, no exception.

Yet, another is the implying that the machine was the primary reason for the weight loss and leaving out the fact that the person was on a restrictive diet during the time:


(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a8/29/cc/a829cc3866de0430eb966ce3381fa76a--size--weight-loss.jpg)
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: njflex on July 17, 2017, 09:48:51 AM
RICH PIANA back yrs ago did an ad for total gym with crowd of people and Brinkley/Norris got on looked like a horse sitting on a lounge chair and said'wow this thing works'i can see it /feel it..lol..
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Shizzo on July 17, 2017, 09:54:12 AM
RICH PIANA back yrs ago did an ad for total gym with crowd of people and Brinkley/Norris got on looked like a horse sitting on a lounge chair and said'wow this thing works'i can see it /feel it..lol..
It does work. The Total Gym helped me get into the best shape of my life. It is a fantastic machine.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 17, 2017, 10:02:24 AM
No doubt some of this new equipment that some companies are peddling are scams.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 17, 2017, 10:43:32 AM
No doubt some of this new equipment that some companies are peddling are scams.

Most equipment made for non-professional use is total crap. In case people really want to train at home, I always advice them to start with a decent power rack and an adjustable bench from a respectable brand like Rogue or whatever.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Powerlift66 on July 17, 2017, 10:54:00 AM
You mean "The Frogger" and freeze dried duck eggs are not the "real deal"??
How about dibencozide, russian mumie, "HMB feels like deca", etc...
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Notomorrow on July 17, 2017, 11:39:29 AM
You should use the fitness industry as a form of paying dues before using gear. Proper diet, training and supplementation should build a DAMN impressive physique..if not...you're either not ready for gear or don't have the genetics for gear.

Way back before the internet you would train your ass off and make enough gains to approach an oldtimer about taking it to the next level. If you were some newbie, fat skinny guy asking about steroids, youd be told to fuck off and go train and eat before asking.

Now everybody just starts on steroids..justifying it by calling bullshit on the industry.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 17, 2017, 11:41:07 AM
You should use the fitness industry as a form of paying dues before using gear. Proper diet, training and supplementation should build a DAMN impressive physique..if not...you're either not ready for gear or don't have the genetics for gear.

Way back before the internet you would train your ass off and make enough gains to approach an oldtimer about taking it to the next level. If you were some newbie, fat skinny guy asking about steroids, youd be told to fuck off and go train and eat before asking.

Now everybody just starts on steroids..justifying it by calling bullshit on the industry.

Well said!
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: cephissus on July 17, 2017, 01:42:26 PM
Errrr Cep.. one thing, RBB was just trolling like a maniac :D

Undoubtedly DP, but mustnt we ask, upon whom falls the duty to troll the troll men ???
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 17, 2017, 02:12:19 PM
Undoubtedly DP, but mustnt we ask, upon whom falls the duty to troll the troll men ???

I believe it's best to excommunicate that annoying twat or simply troll him back.
And yes, I know, sometimes it takes time to find out someone's intentions.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Simple Simon on July 17, 2017, 02:49:17 PM
No doubt some of this new equipment that some companies are peddling are scams.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WOLVERSON-SQUAT-BOX-/282558483908?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MX0AAOSwjRpZXPKS/s-l1600.jpg)

£100 for a box FFS
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 17, 2017, 07:29:35 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WOLVERSON-SQUAT-BOX-/282558483908?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MX0AAOSwjRpZXPKS/s-l1600.jpg)

£100 for a box FFS

Thanks but these boxes work just fine.....

https://instagram.com/p/BWjVdsihByu/
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: falco on July 18, 2017, 08:54:31 AM
This one is pretty real to me:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=585231.0;attach=654793)
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: ratherbebig on July 18, 2017, 09:11:54 AM
let's take a closer look at the stuff that isnt suppose to work, a scam etc according to getbig experts.

(http://www.tptherapy.com/images/TriggerPoint/images/products/rollers/grid_stk_roller/stk_matrix3.png)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71IBp1X3ClL._SL1278_.jpg)

(http://www.ironmind-store.com/images/1254-11_f.jpg)

(http://www.home-gym-bodybuilding.com/images/spud-farmers-handles-2.jpeg)

(https://d11cowbotyg2d6.cloudfront.net/media/catalog/product/c/a/calfblk_1.jpg)

(http://www.fatgripz.com/images/fatgripz-packaging-1_april.png)

(http://pure2improve.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/j/u/jumprope-medium.png)

Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: ratherbebig on July 18, 2017, 09:14:03 AM
(https://cdn2.omidoo.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/full_width/images/bydate/20140128/abmatcopy.jpg)

(http://www.top.me/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/img_54fc2d1b875ce.png)

Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: ratherbebig on July 18, 2017, 09:16:12 AM
so much scams going on!!

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71OcA5ctssL._SL1500_.jpg)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/14/bb/21/14bb21c39d8d0bb0c975737bb63970a7.jpg)
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: ratherbebig on July 18, 2017, 09:17:57 AM
(https://www.athleteshop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/56/image/860x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/p/u/pushupbars.jpg)

(https://scdn.onnit.com/images/product-page/primal-bells-new/360-view-gorilla-01.jpg)

look at all that stuff! scams scams scams!!
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 18, 2017, 09:48:20 AM
Ratherbebig, those are all excellent tools
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 18, 2017, 12:14:56 PM
I got an 8 pack from this thing.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 18, 2017, 12:16:21 PM
I got an incredible peak on my bicep with this thing. Rumor has it was made by an Australian who won Mr. Canada.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Simple Simon on July 18, 2017, 12:58:00 PM
I got an incredible peak on my bicep with this thing. Rumor has it was made by an Australian who won Mr. Canada, a show which he organised and picked the judges.

fixed
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 18, 2017, 01:08:14 PM
This might be the only piece of fitness equipment in the history of the industry that actually is worth the money:

(https://sep.yimg.com/ay/fitnessgiant/york-cast-iron-dumbbell-barbell-set-110lbs-total-weight-13.png)
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 18, 2017, 01:25:29 PM
This might be the only piece of fitness equipment in the history of the industry that actually is worth the money:

(https://sep.yimg.com/ay/fitnessgiant/york-cast-iron-dumbbell-barbell-set-110lbs-total-weight-13.png)

Adjustable dumbbells suck, esp those with this type of locks
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 18, 2017, 01:48:36 PM
Adjustable dumbbells suck, esp those with this type of locks


Yeah, you have to get good locks, and adjustables leave a lot to be desired but just to have something in the house it serves its purpose.
Title: Re: why the fitness industry is a scam
Post by: ratherbebig on July 18, 2017, 03:47:22 PM
thats and a 100 other stuff worth the money.

and then there's of course a shitload of supplements that is worth the money.

but we all know that, and those who dont are just morons who thought they would look like arnold once they picked up a dumbbell and took a protein shake and theres nothing to be said about idiots like that other than they're idiots.