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Title: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 02:52:18 AM
there's a new stage, a new arena, and its the only place that matters - INSTAGRAM.

here are the top-5 bodybuilders:

#1 kai greene 3m followers - miles ahead of the rest, the true uncrowned mr olympia right there, king of social media!
#2 phil heath 2.2m followers - hated by getbiggers, loved and followed by millions around the world.
#3 jay cutler 2.1m!!!
#4 ronnie coleman 2m followers - hasnt competed in 10 years, yet keeps him so relevant that he's closing in on current mr olympia, how's that for "stupid" ?
(#5 rich piana 1.2m followers)
#5 big rami 1m followers

just outside the top-5 we have names like KEVIN LEVRONE and DORIAN YATES 15-20 years after their career! now thats marketing power and genius!
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 03:14:39 AM
for comparison

jon jones, the ufc superstar has 2.2 million followers.

so whoever says that bodybuilding is dead is talking out of their ass. it's never been more popular.
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: Royalty on July 28, 2017, 03:39:54 AM
Bodybuilding is dying... that's why the IFBB had to invent new divisions for the men. Because the bodybuilding division has been experiencing a slow death.
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: Royalty on July 28, 2017, 03:45:42 AM
More proof that bodybuilding is dying: at least 3 of the top 5 bodybuilders in the world are over 40 years of age: Rhoden, Dexter, and Kai. Cedric will turn 40 next month.
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 03:54:12 AM
what part of kai having 3 million followers on instagram dont you understand? that's 800k more than superstar of ufc jon jones!

the interest in bodybuilding and muscle is at an ALL TIME HIGH!

Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 03:59:39 AM
last year mr olympia was BIGGER THAN EVER

1,100 booths covering over 500,000 square feet!

amazon is now the biggest sponsor!


Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: Royalty on July 28, 2017, 04:03:00 AM
what part of kai having 3 million followers on instagram dont you understand? that's 800k more than superstar of ufc jon jones!

the interest in bodybuilding and muscle is at an ALL TIME HIGH!



There is very little new talent entering professional bodybuilding. The sports is getting choked out. Top 5 is a bunch of 40 year olds.


The true test is not Instagram. The true test is PPV buys. People PAY MONEY to watch Jon Jones on PPV. NOBODY would pay a dime to watch bodybuilding on PPV.
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: Royalty on July 28, 2017, 04:05:34 AM
last year mr olympia was BIGGER THAN EVER

1,100 booths covering over 500,000 square feet!

amazon is now the biggest sponsor!




And the show is shown in the internet for FREE.... Because there is NO DEMAND to watch it on PAY PER VIEW
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 04:09:47 AM
so what?

thats now where bodybuilding gets its money!

if lack of money was an issue why is the payout AN ALL TIME HIGH? 400 000 us dollars to phil heath ALONE!!  why is mr olympia expo BIGGER THAN EVER?

it's NEVER been about ppv's, this aint boxing!

Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: Royalty on July 28, 2017, 04:15:04 AM
so what?

thats now where bodybuilding gets its money!

if lack of money was an issue why is the payout AN ALL TIME HIGH? 400 000 us dollars to phil heath ALONE!!  why is mr olympia expo BIGGER THAN EVER?

it's NEVER been about ppv's, this aint boxing!



I think that your are referring more towards supplement sales rather that the bodybuilding competion. The expo is all about supplements. And Jon Jones has the longest line at the Arnold/Olympia expo.
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 04:19:47 AM
I think that your are referring more towards supplement sales rather that the bodybuilding competion. The expo is all about supplements. And Jon Jones has the longest line at the Arnold/Olympia expo.

let's see here...

1. there's no shortage of money when it comes to bodybuilding. if there were they wouldnt be paying an all time high of us 400 000 dollars to phil heath.

2. there's no shortage of people wanting to see phil heath and the rest compete - otherwise there wouldnt be that kinda prize money.

3. there's more people than ever attending the show and the expo.

4. there's a bigger expo and more booths than ever.

5. there's a bigger general interest for muscle and bodybuilding than ever before, as proven by millions upon millions who follow the bodybuilders on social media, dorian yates coming onto one of the biggest podcasts in the world, documentaries etc, kai greene and others breaking new ground in india and other countries.

if youre denying that bodybuilding is at an all time high, you belong to the earth is flat-camp.



Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 04:21:25 AM
as far as age goes, bodybuilding isnt a young man sport, although there's plenty of talent outside of mr olympia, most peak in their 30's which is where we find bodybuilders like big rami and flex lewis who are among the best and the best in their respective weight division and are likely to compete for another decade.

so that argument too is shot down.
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 04:25:52 AM
and lets not forget bodybuilding classic physique:

sadic hadzovic, age 30. 1.7 million instagram followers.

(http://www.trimmedandtoned.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/sadikhadzovic-1.jpg)

Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 04:27:18 AM
arash rahbar

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Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: Royalty on July 28, 2017, 04:32:20 AM
let's see here...

1. there's no shortage of money when it comes to bodybuilding. if there were they wouldnt be paying an all time high of us 400 000 dollars to phil heath.

2. there's no shortage of people wanting to see phil heath and the rest compete - otherwise there wouldnt be that kinda prize money.

3. there's more people than ever attending the show and the expo.

4. there's a bigger expo and more booths than ever.

5. there's a bigger general interest for muscle and bodybuilding than ever before, as proven by millions upon millions who follow the bodybuilders on social media, dorian yates coming onto one of the biggest podcasts in the world, documentaries etc, kai greene and others breaking new ground in india and other countries.

if youre denying that bodybuilding is at an all time high, you belong to the earth is flat-camp.





Nobody would pay to see this bodybuilding  competion on PPV. So that's enough proof that bodybuilding can't compete with Jon Jones and the UFC.
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 04:35:12 AM
nobody said it would compete against ufc.

Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: MORTALCOIL on July 28, 2017, 04:39:51 AM
Considering that the O' is the biggest contest in Bbing and that you only have a handful of competitors out of I don't know how many IFBB Pros, the prize money is still ridiculously low. Bbers might not be athletes but they're a part of the fitness industry which is a multi-billion dollar business. And the N°1 gets less than half a mill for winning the most important contest?
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 04:42:02 AM
thats why bodybuilders needs to find other ways to support themselves.

and they do.

because bodybuilders dont only have the best bodies, they have the best brains.

they're just VERY VERY SMART people.

thats why kai greene, who doesnt even compete, is making a shitload of money and travels the world doing BUSINESS and have 3 million followers.

THREE MILLION FOLLOWERS!!!


Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 04:45:39 AM
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boom!

population in india? 1.3 BILLION

can you imagine the potential for doing business there?

Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: MORTALCOIL on July 28, 2017, 04:50:58 AM
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boom!

population in india? 1.3 BILLION

can you imagine the potential for doing business there?



Cell-Tech Chicken Tikka Masala-flavored fart powder soon at your nearest store.
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 04:52:53 AM
dorian yates, dude hasnt competed for 20 (!) years.

goes on joe rogans podcasts (ranked #12 on itunes) half a million views.

launches SUPER LEAGUE at the same time and the week before he launched his new supplement product NOXPUMP on instagram.

how is that not brilliant marketing? this is free marketing. FREE!

i say it again.

he has a new supplement and launches super league events and he goes on one of the biggest podcasts in the universe and gets free publicity and has a following of half a million on instagram! and it's all FREE OF CHARGE!

if thats not smarts then what is?
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 04:58:38 AM
boom!

i forgot jay cutler. dude has a 2.1 million following on instagram (!!!)

when was the last time he competed? nobody knows!

yet worldwide people tune in to watch what he's doing on a daily bases! over 2 million of them! why? because they love bodybuilding and they love jay cutler and the interest for bodybuilding IS AT AN ALL TIME HIGH !!!

Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: Twaddle on July 28, 2017, 04:59:00 AM
The Produce Predator

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Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: Parker on July 28, 2017, 05:32:19 AM
dorian yates, dude hasnt competed for 20 (!) years.

goes on joe rogans podcasts (ranked #12 on itunes) half a million views.

launches SUPER LEAGUE at the same time and the week before he launched his new supplement product NOXPUMP on instagram.

how is that not brilliant marketing? this is free marketing. FREE!

i say it again.

he has a new supplement and launches super league events and he goes on one of the biggest podcasts in the universe and gets free publicity and has a following of half a million on instagram! and it's all FREE OF CHARGE!

if thats not smarts then what is?

Flex needs to do a collab with those Ninjas. That will help him. Martial Arts & bodybuilding.
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: Royalty on July 28, 2017, 08:14:28 AM
boom!

i forgot jay cutler. dude has a 2.1 million following on instagram (!!!)

when was the last time he competed? nobody knows!

yet worldwide people tune in to watch what he's doing on a daily bases! over 2 million of them! why? because they love bodybuilding and they love jay cutler and the interest for bodybuilding IS AT AN ALL TIME HIGH !!!



Another guy in his mid-40's

There is simply no young talented bodybuilders to carry the sport into the future. The sport is a bunch of old men. Every other sport is filled with young athletes. Sadly, all the current top bodybuilders are past their prime. They are at the end of their careers.
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: Dave D on July 28, 2017, 08:29:04 AM
Ratherbetroll bodybuilding as we know it is dying.

People are more interested in looking fit and competitive be lean competitions.

The Internet has exposed the sport, it's as "real" as a WWE contest.

In the 90s there was the WBF, 10 years ago Wayne Demilla had the pro league. Today we have IFBB classes.

The good news is bodybuilders  are in control of their careers. They use social media they way magazines used to use them.  Today people are celebrities with below average drug riddled physiques and are known as experts.

I admire your dreams but the sport is dying on the vine.
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 08:34:33 AM
Another guy in his mid-40's

There is simply no young talented bodybuilders to carry the sport into the future. The sport is a bunch of old men. Every other sport is filled with young athletes. Sadly, all the current top bodybuilders are past their prime. They are at the end of their careers.

if bodybuilding was tennis it would be in trouble.

but bodybuilding isnt tennis.
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: MORTALCOIL on July 28, 2017, 08:35:31 AM
if bodybuilding was tennis it would be in trouble.

but bodybuilding isnt tennis.


Of course. Tennis is a sport. Bodybuilding is a beauty pageant. HTH.
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 08:36:29 AM
Ratherbetroll bodybuilding as we know it is dying.

People are more interested in looking fit and competitive be lean competitions.

The Internet has exposed the sport, it's as "real" as a WWE contest.

In the 90s there was the WBF, 10 years ago Wayne Demilla had the pro league. Today we have IFBB classes.

The good news is bodybuilders  are in control of their careers. They use social media they way magazines used to use them.  Today people are celebrities with below average drug riddled physiques and are known as experts.

I admire your dreams but the sport is dying on the vine.

yes you keep saying its dying.

even though everything is showing the opposite to be true.

try doing it my way - show evidence. not just give your opinion. it might help you trying to make a case.
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 08:37:41 AM
Of course. Tennis is a sport. Bodybuilding is a beauty pageant. HTH.

maybe so, but it's growing.

it's more popular than ever.


Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 09:03:28 AM
https://www.thenational.ae/lifestyle/wellbeing/body-beautiful-a-look-at-the-rising-popularity-of-bodybuilding-in-the-emirates-1.182846

"Bassem El Jawhari, from Lebanon, organises bodybuilding contests in the UAE two to three times a year. When he started the shows in 2014, he only had 60 competitors, but now has local shows with 150 to 200 participants and international shows with 400 competitors from more than 22 countries."

Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 09:04:26 AM
Oliver Bateman, a historian and professor at the University of Texas, says bodybuilding subculture has hit the mainstream.

"Social media has enabled the sale of the self to happen on a level that we've never experienced before,"

"Instagram, Facebook, Twitter—they've all magnified the ability to present yourself. Yourself is what you're always selling [and] bodybuilders are just very obvious about that."

Social media has also largely democratized the industry's playing field, allowing amateurs who would "never be conventionally successful bodybuilders" back in the day to get sponsorships and build a name for themselves.
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 09:07:19 AM
Aaron Smith, a business professor at the Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology University in Australia, said that athlete sponsorships have "inflated immensely" with bodybuilders over the past few years.

Today's sports nutrition industry provides an enormous market for companies to get a slice of the action, he says.

Winston Roberts, a former competitive bodybuilder and director at the Ontario Physique Association, says social media has helped the bodybuilding scene widen its appeal and become more socially acceptable over the years.

Roberts adds that there was a time between the late 1990s and mid 2000s when the industry was on the decline and "needed some reinvigorating."

But today, a small bodybuilding event can attract 600 to 700 audience members and 150 to 200 competitors. The Toronto Pro SuperShow, which hosts a number of professional and amateur bodybuilding events, including Canada's largest fitness convention, draws about 15,000 audience members each year.

"It's really huge... we never had numbers like that back in the day," he said.
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 09:13:01 AM
http://www.rawstory.com/2013/09/popularity-of-bodybuilding-is-bulging-in-china/

More than 100 men competed at a Bodybuilding Grand Prix this weekend for a top prize worth 80,000 yuan ($13,000).

They included at least 20 professionals as well as scores of amateurs from across the country, in what organisers said was a sign of the bulging popularity of muscle building in China.

Bodybuilding has at least a century of history in China, but fell out of favour following the Communist revolution in 1949, when the sport was condemned as western and bourgeois and competitions sometimes banned.

But it has enjoyed a resurgence since the 1980s, and competitors said the growing number of contests made it viable as a way of making a living.
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 09:14:40 AM
http://archive.naplesnews.com/community/busting-at-the-seams-popularity-of-bodybuilding-competition-led-to-need-for-larger-venue-ep-10713968-331319461.html/

Busting at the seams: Popularity of bodybuilding competition led to need for larger venue

Following a wildly successful inaugural show last May at the Center for Performing Arts in Bonita Springs, event promoters said the simple law of supply and demand prompted this year's move to Seminole Immokalee Casino.

Conigliaro said around 700 people joined more than 100 competitors from around the country to pack the Bonita Springs venue last year in a space designed to accommodate just 425. But the casino's increased capacity of around 900 marked just one reason for the move south.
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: Dave D on July 28, 2017, 11:35:35 AM
yes you keep saying its dying.

even though everything is showing the opposite to be true.

try doing it my way - show evidence. not just give your opinion. it might help you trying to make a case.


??
I have provided evidence. The sport has a smaller fan base and fewer competitors.

Your evidence shows that the most popular Bodybuilder doesn't compete and the third most has been retired for over a decade.

 For goodness sake former bodybuilding stars are doing physique competitions.

They can't get tv time in an era when networks are BEGGING for exclusive content. I can watch various levels of strongman competitions, cross fit,  ninja warriors and disc golf on different channels. Notice I didn't say bodybuilding....

Sorry friend your heroes are fading into Bolivia.

And don't get me started on women's bodybuilding.
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: ratherbebig on July 28, 2017, 12:15:09 PM
??
I have provided evidence. The sport has a smaller fan base and fewer competitors.

Your evidence shows that the most popular Bodybuilder doesn't compete and the third most has been retired for over a decade.

 For goodness sake former bodybuilding stars are doing physique competitions.

They can't get tv time in an era when networks are BEGGING for exclusive content. I can watch various levels of strongman competitions, cross fit,  ninja warriors and disc golf on different channels. Notice I didn't say bodybuilding....

Sorry friend your heroes are fading into Bolivia.

And don't get me started on women's bodybuilding.

there's more competitions. bigger fanbase. more competitors. more classes and divisions.

and both the old mr olympias and current mr olympias are super popular with millions of followers.

the biggest of the big, big rami is popular like hell.

where as guys with a different zane like physique like sadik is equally popular.

"but its not on tv!" is a complete bullshit comment that means fuck all.
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: Dave D on July 28, 2017, 04:21:38 PM
there's more competitions. bigger fanbase. more competitors. more classes and divisions.

and both the old mr olympias and current mr olympias are super popular with millions of followers.

the biggest of the big, big rami is popular like hell.

where as guys with a different zane like physique like sadik is equally popular.

"but its not on tv!" is a complete bullshit comment that means fuck all.


Pot meet kettle.

You're right bro the IFBB is HUGE.

Bodybuilding has gone mainstream.

Brace yourself because when OHearn drops to 223 and he lands that HE MAN lead the growth of the sport will be exponential. Like when Arnold made it popular from his movie peak.
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: TheAnimal on July 28, 2017, 06:03:09 PM
Pot meet kettle.

You're right bro the IFBB is HUGE.

Bodybuilding has gone mainstream.

Brace yourself because when OHearn drops to 223 and he lands that HE MAN lead the growth of the sport will be exponential. Like when Arnold made it popular from his movie peak.
::)
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: Royalty on July 28, 2017, 06:08:33 PM
there's more competitions. bigger fanbase. more competitors. more classes and divisions.

and both the old mr olympias and current mr olympias are super popular with millions of followers.

the biggest of the big, big rami is popular like hell.

where as guys with a different zane like physique like sadik is equally popular.

"but its not on tv!" is a complete bullshit comment that means fuck all.


And sports networks simply don't care. ESPN covers sports that are in high demand. Bodybuilding was on ESPN in the 90's. But those glory days are gone for ever. ESPN dropped bodybuilding like a stone.
Title: Re: bodybuilder top-5 kai green beats phil with ronnie coleman close third in 2017
Post by: Dave D on July 28, 2017, 06:21:48 PM
And sports networks simply don't care. ESPN covers sports that are in high demand. Bodybuilding was on ESPN in the 90's. But those glory days are gone for ever. ESPN dropped bodybuilding like a stone.

Espn is tv and ratherbewiggs said tv doesn't matter. But of ESPN tweets about it......

Lol 2 million followers and they can't fill a 10,000 seat theatre for the biggest show of the year.