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Title: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: JAGO on July 30, 2017, 01:17:20 AM
Great video . . . The stuff from the 79 Olympia will give you insight into what John Hanson was saying, that you had to see Zane ( and Dickerson ) to get how good they were. I still can beat t believe Vince Basil said he could beat Frank.



J
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: pellius on July 30, 2017, 01:27:21 AM
Great video . . . The stuff from the 79 Olympia will give you insight into what John Hanson was saying, that you had to see Zane ( and Dickerson ) to get how good they were. I still can beat t believe Vince Basil said he could beat Frank.



J

When did Vince say that? Do you have a link?
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: French on July 30, 2017, 01:31:29 AM
Zane, Dickerson, Makkawy were true masterpiece.
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: JAGO on July 30, 2017, 01:32:22 AM
Here's a link where he starts to back peddle. Ill keep looking ( does the wayback machine have Ironage posts?)

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=348037.0

J
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: bigbychoices on July 30, 2017, 04:28:38 AM
dickerson sucked in my opinion. not even close to a real pro body. zane when by himself was awesome. like a statue. makkawy was excellent too. so was padilla. but when you got these guys next to bigger guys it all went away. but they had classic bodybuilding perfection .
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: ratherbebig on July 30, 2017, 06:04:19 AM
they look even worse on video
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: Mr Anabolic on July 30, 2017, 06:27:56 AM
Zane's vacuum pose was impressive, everything else... meh. 

I never like Dickerson... totally overrated. 

Mentzer was good when he first came on the scene, but he looked small and flat in '79 and '80. 
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on July 30, 2017, 06:34:02 AM
Fuck the haters. If anybody on this site looked like Zane in this relaxed seminar pic....they would be happy for life.
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: ratherbebig on July 30, 2017, 06:44:04 AM
dude probably upped the dosage for tha seminar

kinda like people are doing now before expos
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: Mr Anabolic on July 30, 2017, 06:54:50 AM
dude probably upped the dosage for tha seminar

kinda like people are doing now before expos

What does the Greek alphabet have to do with bodybuilding?
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: Never1AShow on July 30, 2017, 07:00:12 AM
What does the Greek alphabet have to do with bodybuilding?

Some crazy brain wave meditation type stuff that he sold to the rubes out of Palm Springs
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: ratherbebig on July 30, 2017, 07:10:09 AM
What does the Greek alphabet have to do with bodybuilding?

delta > deltoid > delirium
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: Mr Anabolic on July 30, 2017, 07:25:43 AM
Some crazy brain wave meditation type stuff that he sold to the rubes out of Palm Springs

He should've sold his pre-contest steron cycle regime instead.
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: MORTALCOIL on July 30, 2017, 07:27:55 AM
Great video . . . The stuff from the 79 Olympia will give you insight into what John Hanson was saying, that you had to see Zane ( and Dickerson ) to get how good they were. I still can beat t believe Vince Basil said he could beat Frank.


Not surprising, coming from Basile. Creepiest f### around. The only man against whom Jeffrey Dahmer filed a restraining order.
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: Simple Simon on July 30, 2017, 10:04:54 AM
Fuck the haters. If anybody on this site looked like Zane in this relaxed seminar pic....they would be happy for life.
I look like that in a t shirt, I think my legs look a bit better than his in that shot though.
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: pellius on July 31, 2017, 01:34:16 AM
Not surprising, coming from Basile. Creepiest f### around. The only man against whom Jeffrey Dahmer filed a restraining order.

For the record Vince said it was AMBITION to beat Zane. And who knows what would have happen
if Vince started pushing the envelope like Zane did. Vince was no slouch back in the day at 2 dbol, 10mg, per day.

In this day and age with the internet I wonder why people try to put words in other people's mouth
when it's easily verifiable and checked.

I would have beaten Goodrum with the physique I had in 1964. No worries there at all.

I wrote in an article that it was my ambition to beat Frank Zane. That was when I won the Mr Canada title in 1970. Who knows what I might have achieved had I gone to LA to live instead of Sydney? I never worried about Zane. He didn't win the Olympia until Arnold retired. He wouldn't have beaten Sergio, either. Frank came to my penthouse apartment with Robert Nailon I think in 1978. When I came home Frank told me I didn't have to visit Disneyland. Why not, Frank, I asked? Well, because you have been in Fantasyland all your life. I thought he was a dickhead for saying that in my home. I never liked or respected him after that. A diminished Arnold beat Frank in 1980 and I was there. Frank wasn't the best that day. It was between Arnold and Chris Dickerson.

After the Mr Canada contest in 1970 I was at English Bay Beach in Vancouver. That was where I hung out in those days. I met Dr Michael Walczak from LA who told me I looked good. I knew about him because he supervised some top bodybuilders in LA re steroids. He was in the magazines and even judged the Mr Olympia contest in 1980. He told me I could be a Mr Universe in 6 months if I took Decadurabolin under his supervision. I was more interested in clearing up my skin. He related how many of the top guys and people running bodybuilding were gay. Yeah, I could see where this line was going so I invited him to dinner at my place with my wife. After that he lost interest and I never saw him again.

I tend not to train that hard unless I get motivated. Had I been at Golds Gym in LA I might have found sufficient motivation to win a Universe. I wasn't keen to experiment with steroids and used only 2 Dianabol tablets a day for a couple of months prior to the Mr Canada. My ex got them from a hospital. In those days I would have been too embarrassed to approach a doctor for a prescription and I had no idea how to obtain them any other way. It was considered cheating to use drugs. My mate Hans Gensow was disgusted when he found out I used Dianabol. He found out in 2004 and I was ashamed that he did. That was the way we were in the good old days. Health was important to us.

Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: AusBB on July 31, 2017, 01:38:16 AM
I look like that in a t shirt, I think my legs look a bit better than his in that shot though.

No, you don't.

You may think you do - and that is a matter you should address within yourself - but the reality is that you don't.

Just to be clear, you don't look like that.

Not a hard outfit to change into if you'd like to post pics and prove me wrong.


PS: You don't look like that.
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: rocket on July 31, 2017, 02:20:47 AM
In this day and age with the internet I wonder why people try to put words in other people's mouth
when it's easily verifiable and checked.

Because misquoting people is a contemporary technique for fuelling fire and by the time the truth emerges, the story is over and nobody cares.

A lot of people assuage their own mediocrity by trying to bring others down with this technique.  Either they're too fucking stupid to comprehend the difference or they don't care - makes no difference, NOBODY ever talks about the truth, once the bullshit has gained traction.

That's why they love teh pedo shit with Basile.

There was an article posted here a few days ago.. a guy "killed his wife for laughing at him"

Or that's what the topic claimed.  

When the 1% (me) actually go read the article for the truth, it doesn't really claim anything of the sort.  It claims they were heard fighting and doesn't actually offer a reason up for why he killed the lady.

But that's too late.  The fires are burning.  All the dudes who have been fucked over by mouthy women are now imagining the woman sort of deserved a slap at the very least.  All the women protectors are extra furious because a woman should be able to laugh at a man.

And most of the fires are burning on bullshit exaggeration to begin with, because none of us would be talking about a simple story where a husband killed a wife after an argument.

So to be clear "in this day and age" manipulation of the truth is worse than ever.
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: phil mcgroin on July 31, 2017, 02:49:14 AM
you just cant compare 70's b.b with today,its on another planet.That being said you have to remember all those guys were freeks back then always pushing the envelope.the b.b.'s today have too much mass to compare and the body has a whole different look,whether that is something you like or not,but the two simply cant be compared.They need to be appreciated (or disliked) on there own merits.
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: Vince B on July 31, 2017, 03:02:58 AM
Zane looked good relaxed. One of the only guys who never put his arms out to the sides when standing 'relaxed' on stage.

He never beat Arnold or Sergio at their best but he won a lot of contests.
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: BSN on July 31, 2017, 03:28:38 AM
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Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: JAGO on July 31, 2017, 03:37:59 AM
dude probably upped the dosage for tha seminar

kinda like people are doing now before expos

No, that was in July or August of 1979 the same weekend as the diamond cup which was held in Vancouver, if I recall correctly. The seminar was held in Montreal at a Holiday Inn ( it was originally to be held at Caruso's Gym.) Frank was only 6 or 8 weeks out from his third Olympia win.

J
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: AusBB on July 31, 2017, 07:35:31 AM
you just cant compare 70's b.b with today,its on another planet.That being said you have to remember all those guys were freeks back then always pushing the envelope.the b.b.'s today have too much mass to compare and the body has a whole different look,whether that is something you like or not,but the two simply cant be compared.They need to be appreciated (or disliked) on there own merits.

It probably has a lot to do with the guys back then training for 5 hours a day.

Whereas today's guys train for an hour a day and eat the rest of the time.
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: Strongmanfan on July 31, 2017, 07:53:55 AM
Great video . . . The stuff from the 79 Olympia will give you insight into what John Hanson was saying, that you had to see Zane ( and Dickerson ) to get how good they were. I still can beat t believe Vince Basil said he could beat Frank.



J

Zane trained for "balance".

It's not like drug response is mainly genetic or anything.  ;D
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: Simple Simon on July 31, 2017, 09:48:58 AM
No, you don't.

You may think you do - and that is a matter you should address within yourself - but the reality is that you don't.

Just to be clear, you don't look like that.

Not a hard outfit to change into if you'd like to post pics and prove me wrong.


PS: You don't look like that.

Impressive early meltdown straight out of the traps, let's see your pics hotshot, I have posted plenty.
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: ratherbebig on July 31, 2017, 12:37:15 PM
i look like frank zane

when frank zane was 5 years old.
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: _bruce_ on July 31, 2017, 12:45:17 PM
He used to look awesome - legs like Zane still makes me laugh though.
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: SGT BARNES on July 31, 2017, 02:41:57 PM
most importantly, zane beat  mentzer every time and helped drive mentzer into actual insanity as well as penius.
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: FREAKgeek on July 31, 2017, 02:47:40 PM
Zane, Dickerson, Makkawy were true masterpiece.

Zane and Makkawy did so much with their bodyweight.

(https://s1.postimg.org/szjz825hb/download.jpg)
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: Skylge on August 01, 2017, 12:39:20 AM
Fuck the haters. If anybody on this site looked like Zane in this relaxed seminar pic....they would be happy for life.

As Haney said, QUALITY is the name of the game, not quantity

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/e6/d9/ee/e6d9ee0043b7b9d0f1cd2f4c4651e3a7.jpg)
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: ratherbebig on August 01, 2017, 12:54:35 AM
zany look pretty big in that photo, hard to talk about a swimmers physique there
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: honest on August 01, 2017, 01:26:46 AM
Agree great photo of zane, biggest i have seen his legs.
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: Danimal77 on August 01, 2017, 04:51:18 AM
Great video . . . The stuff from the 79 Olympia will give you insight into what John Hanson was saying, that you had to see Zane ( and Dickerson ) to get how good they were. I still can beat t believe Vince Basil said he could beat Frank.



J

Dickerson was SHIT in 1982. Better earlier on.
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: Vince B on August 01, 2017, 06:03:38 AM
zany look pretty big in that photo, hard to talk about a swimmers physique there

I believe the photo was shopped.
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: Howard on August 01, 2017, 06:22:58 AM
1979 Olympia was  Zane's all time best look.
He had a nice overall combination of conditioning, deep separation with sufficient mass.

In my opinion, Zane had the greatest classic physique , period.
He won 3 straight Olympia contests ( 1977, 78, 79) and beat  a young Arnold at the Universe.
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: AusBB on August 01, 2017, 06:28:28 AM
Impressive early meltdown straight out of the traps, let's see your pics hotshot, I have posted plenty.

Happy to look at your "Frank Zane" shot. I google'd "Be There" and suprisingly there werent as many images on google as there was for "Frank Zane".

But if you post your "Frank Zane" shot I'm sure you'll put the matter to rest.

Oh, just in case I wasn't clear about something earlier.....







You don't look like Frank Zane.

You never have.

You never will.

It's debatable that you are even the same species.

So yea, you don't look like that.
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: MORTALCOIL on August 01, 2017, 06:37:30 AM
I believe the photo was shopped.

You just believe what you want to believe, you old fool. At your age, being so bitter and delusional is just baffling.
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: Kwon on August 01, 2017, 06:40:39 AM
I'M getting the Zane-thing, but most people in my gym do NOT!


A chosen few gets the Zane-thing.




InZane Kitchen

(https://bootyoftheday.co/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/meaty-kitchen-booty.jpg)
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 01, 2017, 06:44:49 AM
Thank you Kwon, I almost fell asleep from this thread
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: Pet shop boys on August 01, 2017, 07:15:32 AM
zany look pretty big in that photo, hard to talk about a swimmers physique there

Lets just hope the entire lower body is not shopped .... never seen his calves so big either


WooOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: For Those Who don't get the Zane Thing
Post by: Skylge on August 01, 2017, 08:16:50 AM
Agree great photo of zane, biggest i have seen his legs.

I don't think it's possible to win 3 consecutive Olympias in a row without good legs

People saying Zane had lousy legs are quite stupid 

There were some good builders participating

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_Mr._Olympia