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War is in the air. I love this guy: “The DPRK should cease any consideration of actions that would lead to the end of its regime and the destruction of its people.”
Gen. Mattis warns North Korea not to invite 'destruction of its people'
Published August 09, 2017
Fox News
If Kim Jong Un won’t listen to President Trump, the Mad Dog could make him heel.
Secretary of Defense James “Mad Dog” Mattis echoed his boss’s fiery warning Wednesday to the dictator of North Korea with harsh rhetoric of his own. And this time, the words came from a battle-tested, four-star U.S. Marine Corps general.
“The DPRK should cease any consideration of actions that would lead to the end of its regime and the destruction of its people.”
- Gen. James "Mad Dog Mattis
“The DPRK must choose to stop isolating itself and stand down its pursuit of nuclear weapons,” Mattis said in a statement. “The DPRK should cease any consideration of actions that would lead to the end of its regime and the destruction of its people.”
Mattis provided a powerful follow-up to Trump’s warning that Pyongyang would face “fire and fury” should it continue to test missiles, build nuclear warheads and threaten to attack the United States. Lest anyone think Trump was speaking without the counsel of his top military man, Mattis said Trump is well aware of the depth of the North Korean threat.
“President Trump was informed of the growing threat last December and on taking office his first orders to me emphasized the readiness of our ballistic missile defense and nuclear deterrent forces,” Mattis continued.
“While our State Department is making every effort to resolve this global threat through diplomatic means, it must be noted that the combined allied militaries now possess the most precise, rehearsed and robust defensive and offensive capabilities on Earth. The DPRK regime's actions will continue to be grossly overmatched by ours and would lose any arms race or conflict it initiates.”
Tuesday's report that Pyongyang has missile-ready nukes, combined with months of missile tests and threats from Kim, has brought the world to the brink. Punishing sanctions passed last week by the U.N. only served to increase Pyongyang's hostility toward the world, and in particular, the U.S.
Kim is believed to control up to 60 nuclear weapons.
The North Korean regime has conducted 12 tests so far this year, with one ICBM test conducted in late July sending a missile 2,300 miles into space and 45 minutes into the air. It was the longest, and farthest ballistic missile test in the history of North Korea, officials told Fox News at the time.
Trump leveled his initial threat on Tuesday, after the report that North Korea is closer than previously believed to making good on its threats.
“North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States,” Mr. Trump told reporters at his golf club in Bedminster, N.J., where he is spending much of the month on a working vacation. “They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen.”
Referring to the volatile Kim, Trump said, “He has been very threatening beyond a normal state, and as I said, they will be met with fire and fury, and frankly power the likes of which this world has never seen before.”
Trump followed his threat with a tweet Wednesday declaring the U.S. is more than ready for a war.
“My first order as President was to renovate and modernize our nuclear arsenal. It is now far stronger and more powerful than ever before,” Trump tweeted. “Hopefully we will never have to use this power, but there will never be a time that we are not the most powerful nation in the world!”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/09/gen-mattis-warns-north-korea-not-to-invite-destruction-its-people.html
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War is in the air. I love this guy: “The DPRK should cease any consideration of actions that would lead to the end of its regime and the destruction of its people.”
Gen. Mattis warns North Korea not to invite 'destruction of its people'
Published August 09, 2017
Fox News
If Kim Jong Un won’t listen to President Trump, the Mad Dog could make him heel.
Secretary of Defense James “Mad Dog” Mattis echoed his boss’s fiery warning Wednesday to the dictator of North Korea with harsh rhetoric of his own. And this time, the words came from a battle-tested, four-star U.S. Marine Corps general.
“The DPRK should cease any consideration of actions that would lead to the end of its regime and the destruction of its people.”
- Gen. James "Mad Dog Mattis
“The DPRK must choose to stop isolating itself and stand down its pursuit of nuclear weapons,” Mattis said in a statement. “The DPRK should cease any consideration of actions that would lead to the end of its regime and the destruction of its people.”
Mattis provided a powerful follow-up to Trump’s warning that Pyongyang would face “fire and fury” should it continue to test missiles, build nuclear warheads and threaten to attack the United States. Lest anyone think Trump was speaking without the counsel of his top military man, Mattis said Trump is well aware of the depth of the North Korean threat.
“President Trump was informed of the growing threat last December and on taking office his first orders to me emphasized the readiness of our ballistic missile defense and nuclear deterrent forces,” Mattis continued.
“While our State Department is making every effort to resolve this global threat through diplomatic means, it must be noted that the combined allied militaries now possess the most precise, rehearsed and robust defensive and offensive capabilities on Earth. The DPRK regime's actions will continue to be grossly overmatched by ours and would lose any arms race or conflict it initiates.”
Tuesday's report that Pyongyang has missile-ready nukes, combined with months of missile tests and threats from Kim, has brought the world to the brink. Punishing sanctions passed last week by the U.N. only served to increase Pyongyang's hostility toward the world, and in particular, the U.S.
Kim is believed to control up to 60 nuclear weapons.
The North Korean regime has conducted 12 tests so far this year, with one ICBM test conducted in late July sending a missile 2,300 miles into space and 45 minutes into the air. It was the longest, and farthest ballistic missile test in the history of North Korea, officials told Fox News at the time.
Trump leveled his initial threat on Tuesday, after the report that North Korea is closer than previously believed to making good on its threats.
“North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States,” Mr. Trump told reporters at his golf club in Bedminster, N.J., where he is spending much of the month on a working vacation. “They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen.”
Referring to the volatile Kim, Trump said, “He has been very threatening beyond a normal state, and as I said, they will be met with fire and fury, and frankly power the likes of which this world has never seen before.”
Trump followed his threat with a tweet Wednesday declaring the U.S. is more than ready for a war.
“My first order as President was to renovate and modernize our nuclear arsenal. It is now far stronger and more powerful than ever before,” Trump tweeted. “Hopefully we will never have to use this power, but there will never be a time that we are not the most powerful nation in the world!”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/09/gen-mattis-warns-north-korea-not-to-invite-destruction-its-people.html
spoken like a typical Republican Chicken Hawk
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there will never be a time that we are not the most powerful nation in the world
Famous last words, right there. Keep screwing the middle class and we'll be exactly one large pile of dogshit soon enough. We'll be just like a North Korea or any other POS country you want to name.
And it won't matter to anyone, quite frankly, how well-armed we are at that point.
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Famous last words, right there. Keep screwing the middle class and we'll be exactly one large pile of dogshit soon enough. We'll be just like a North Korea or any other POS country you want to name.
And it won't matter to anyone, quite frankly, how well-armed we are at that point.
An argument could be made that China is at least on par with America.
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An argument could be made that China is at least on par with America.
Well, they're such a highly prized trading partner (that's what I hear from our lawmakers' actions at least) so I guess all's good.
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Famous last words, right there. Keep screwing the middle class and we'll be exactly one large pile of dogshit soon enough. We'll be just like a North Korea or any other POS country you want to name.
And it won't matter to anyone, quite frankly, how well-armed we are at that point.
Libfagcuntrags want us to be just like Cuba and NK
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An argument could be made that China is at least on par with America.
No where close. But I would definitely NOT like to test that statement either.
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No where close. But I would definitely NOT like to test that statement either.
Maybe not in military spending but they do have more than double the troops.
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Libfagcuntrags want us to be just like Cuba and NK
Yes, I will admit that the currently popular version of "left" is one of the most baffling cases of self-destruction I've ever seen. Just mindless idiocy that can't stand the slightest scrutiny. Their answer is to get angry at the person questioning it.
But the "other side" giving Carte Blanche to corporations is what allows for plenty of bullshit, as well. And the ones of those who call themselves "Christians" I find especially insulting. They don't know the meaning of the word.
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Maybe not in military spending but they do have more than double the troops.
China has no ability to project power or transport said troops. They are cannon fodder
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An argument could be made that China is at least on par with America.
Incredibly weak argument.
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Glad to see that dumpf drew a line with North Korea. ::)
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/09/trump-just-set-his-own-uncrossable-red-line--and-north-korea-crossed-it-instantly.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/09/trump-just-set-his-own-uncrossable-red-line--and-north-korea-crossed-it-instantly.html)
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Glad to see that dumpf drew a line with North Korea. ::)
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/09/trump-just-set-his-own-uncrossable-red-line--and-north-korea-crossed-it-instantly.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/09/trump-just-set-his-own-uncrossable-red-line--and-north-korea-crossed-it-instantly.html)
he probably forgot he set a line
I seriously think he might have a bit of dementia
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North Korea responds to US threats with Guam attack plan: 'Only absolute force' can work on Trump
Published August 09, 2017
Fox News
North Korea on Wednesday responded to a new round of threats from President Donald Trump and Defense Secretary Jim Mattis -- with a claim that it could launch four missiles in Guam's direction within just a week.
In a statement released by its state-run media, KCNA, the North Korean general who oversees the regime's rocket command said it would complete its plan to attack waters near Guam by mid-August, then “wait for” orders from the commander in chief of its nuclear force.
The statement comes after Trump took to Twitter on Wednesday, noting that the U.S. nuclear arsenal is "now far stronger and more powerful than ever before," adding, "Hopefully we will never have to use this power, but there will never be a time that we are not the most powerful nation in the world!"
TRUMP AND HIS ADMINISTRATION ARE 'SPEAKING WITH ONE VOICE' ON NORTH KOREA, STATE DEPARTMENT SAYS
The statement from the North said its plan to strike Guam would feature a "historic enveloping fire" at the U.S. Pacific territory.
North Korea called Trump's threat of responding with "fire and fury" as a "load of nonsense," and that "only absolute force" can work on the president.
Comments from the general said the action against Guam would be "an effective remedy for restraining the frantic moves of the U.S. in the southern part of the Korean peninsula and its vicinity."
Earlier Wednesday, Mattis put out his own warning, telling the rogue nation to stop its actions that would "lead to the end of its regime and the destruction of its people."
The plan to strike near Guam would include the "simultaneous" firing of four Hwasong-12 intermediate-range ballistic rockets (IRBM), according to South Korea's Yonhap News Agency.
North Korea's KCNA reported the rockets would cross over Shimane, Hiroshima and Koichi before landing in the surrounding waters, 18 to 24 miles away from Guam.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/08/09/north-korea-responds-to-us-threats-with-guam-attack-plan-only-absolute-force-can-work-on-trump.html
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North Korea responds to US threats with Guam attack plan: 'Only absolute force' can work on Trump
Published August 09, 2017
Fox News
North Korea on Wednesday responded to a new round of threats from President Donald Trump and Defense Secretary Jim Mattis -- with a claim that it could launch four missiles in Guam's direction within just a week.
In a statement released by its state-run media, KCNA, the North Korean general who oversees the regime's rocket command said it would complete its plan to attack waters near Guam by mid-August, then “wait for” orders from the commander in chief of its nuclear force.
The statement comes after Trump took to Twitter on Wednesday, noting that the U.S. nuclear arsenal is "now far stronger and more powerful than ever before," adding, "Hopefully we will never have to use this power, but there will never be a time that we are not the most powerful nation in the world!"
TRUMP AND HIS ADMINISTRATION ARE 'SPEAKING WITH ONE VOICE' ON NORTH KOREA, STATE DEPARTMENT SAYS
The statement from the North said its plan to strike Guam would feature a "historic enveloping fire" at the U.S. Pacific territory.
North Korea called Trump's threat of responding with "fire and fury" as a "load of nonsense," and that "only absolute force" can work on the president.
Comments from the general said the action against Guam would be "an effective remedy for restraining the frantic moves of the U.S. in the southern part of the Korean peninsula and its vicinity."
Earlier Wednesday, Mattis put out his own warning, telling the rogue nation to stop its actions that would "lead to the end of its regime and the destruction of its people."
The plan to strike near Guam would include the "simultaneous" firing of four Hwasong-12 intermediate-range ballistic rockets (IRBM), according to South Korea's Yonhap News Agency.
North Korea's KCNA reported the rockets would cross over Shimane, Hiroshima and Koichi before landing in the surrounding waters, 18 to 24 miles away from Guam.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/08/09/north-korea-responds-to-us-threats-with-guam-attack-plan-only-absolute-force-can-work-on-trump.html
I found a way that we can play this to our advantage!
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I found a way that we can play this to our advantage!
lol ;D
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I found a way that we can play this to our advantage!
That's not a bad plan. ;D
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I remember this comment. :) From 2011:
Many have asked why Kim wanted a nuclear program. A North Korean nuclear weapon is unusable, at least if North Korea wants to survive. That most mild-mannered of US secretaries of state, Colin Powell, once said to me "Alex, if Kim uses his bomb, we'll turn North Korea into a parking lot".
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/opinion/a-bit-of-a-joke-lost-on-long-suffering-people/news-story/aaa3280f8afa31d13e1ce2002b46dea0
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A war with North Korea would be hell -- And the aftermath even worse
By Harry J. Kazianis
Published August 10, 2017
Fox News
Fact: The United States and its allies in the Asia-Pacific would demolish North Korea in any conceivable military scenario. Even if our worst fears are realized, and Kim Jong Un decided to lash out with nuclear weapons, Washington would ensure Pyongyang was turned into atomic ash—what would clearly be the end of the so-called “hermit kingdom”.
But what is lost in our recent conversations of war and peace in Asia today are two key questions: Just how bad would such a conflict be and what happens when the war is over?
Stop and think about it for a second. If we accept the fact that a war fought on the Korean peninsula -- if waged with no nuclear, chemical or biological weapons, which is by no means a certainty—it stands to reason that the number of conventional weapons used by North and South Korea, America and likely Japan or others would flatten large sections of the Korea peninsula. To make matters worse, such carnage would likely spread to the Japanese home islands, U.S. military bases around the region or even Guam, Hawaii or Alaska.
To focus our minds around this terrifying problem, let us consider for a moment just one of the many very real scenarios that could occur in what would be a Second Korean War. If, for example, North Korea were to launch a salvo of artillery shells into Seoul, South Korea’s capital—just a mere 35 miles from the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) that separates north and south—the devastation could be catastrophic. Imagine countless skyscrapers and tall buildings collapsing to the earth, millions of people fleeing to mass transit and clogging all exits out of one of the world’s largest cities. It would be, in many respects, 9/11—but times a hundred. The rebuilding of downtown Seoul would be in the billions of dollars, not to mention the rebuilding of countless people’s lives. Just that one act alone, in what could be the opening chapter of a war the brutality of which we have not seen in generations—not to mention would be magnified on social media many times over—would horrify us all for generations to come.
And the above is just a small example of what could happen. If we expand this out a little more, what if North Korea—in a future scenario where President Trump begins a massive buildup like the First or Second Gulf Wars—decides to strike first and launch not only attacks on Seoul, but deploy the full weight of his conventional military forces in an all-out assault against the South? While there are countless examples of how this could be operationalized, three come to mind—all equally terrifying.
First, Kim could launch the full weight of his 1.1-million-man army, 4,300 tanks and countless artillery and rocket batteries to attack the South. While his forces are old (much of it armed with 1950s technology), the sheer amount of these weapons ensures they would do incredible damage. And yes, Washington and Seoul would be able to destroy the clear majority of Kim’s army quickly, but the devastation left in its wake could be catastrophic.
Next, Kim could just decide to fire off his over 1,000 missiles in wave after wave of terror strikes on Seoul, Tokyo and U.S. military bases around the region. Such attacks, especially if carried out against major cities in South Korea or Japan, would drive mass panic throughout each nation. While it stands to reason North Korea’s missiles aren’t as accurate as America's or other major powers like Russia or China, they could be used as the ultimate terror weapon—doing perhaps more damage to people’s psyche, tearing away at any notion that Pyongyang could not reach out and strike them at a moment’s notice.
Third, North Korea could decide to deploy its massive force of 200,000 special forces in a clandestine assault on the South. We know Pyongyang has dug countless tunnels under the DMZ into South Korea—some that have been discovered are now even tourist attractions. Even if they sent a small force of several thousand troops to the South, the Seoul government would have to launch a massive manhunt to catch these forces, who could spread terror and mayhem throughout the country.
As if all of this isn’t bad enough—and keep in mind these are the simplest of examples, such a war would have many layers of horror—there is what happens after, and that might be the most troubling prospect of all.
Remember, if North Korea is defeated without becoming an atomic graveyard, North and South Korea would need to be reunited. Think the scale of the Syrian Civil War seems incalculable or rebuilding Iraq or Afghanistan is challenging? A destroyed North Korea with massive damage done to the South could make any of those pale in comparison.
Take for example the most immediate challenges that would have to be solved quickly. Who would oversee what is left of North Korea and actually run the country? Do you allow some members of the North Korea government, who know the country best, to stay on in some fashion? What do you do with what remains of Kim’s military? And for that matter, what do you do with Kim if he lives?
Then, how do you feed a starving North Korean population of 25 million people? How can you logistically bring enough resources in to feed the hungry when there are no roads, bridges or transportation network to do it?
Not only would you have both sides needing trillions of dollars in reconstruction aid but you would need to somehow figure out how to rebuild a North Korean society that has been brainwashed by decades of rule by the Kim family.
We must also consider what the outside world will think of Korean unification, and that means China. What will Beijing do, seeing a united Korea that would likely be a strong U.S. ally and potentially still hosting U.S. troops in the years to come? While far into the future, a strong, united Korea could be a powerful counterweight to China, and along with Japan, a powerful U.S. friend. How would Beijing react?
And what about Kim’s network of concentration camps. Who is to be blamed, shamed and charged with crimes against humanity? How can you help perhaps as many as 200,000 people who have had their lives destroyed in a fashion not seen since the days of Nazi Germany and Adolf Hitler?
In all fairness, the scenarios I have laid out only scratch at the surface of what a war on the Korean peninsula would look like. If such a war were to involve nuclear, chemical or other weapons of mass destruction, the devastation would be beyond our imagination.
Therefore, all sides, especially the brutal regime of Kim Jong Un, should think twice about proceeding down the path towards conflict. Because in a Second Korean War, no one wins.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/08/10/war-with-north-korea-would-be-hell-and-aftermath-even-worse.html
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:o
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US, NKorea Diplomats Talk in Private as Trump Threatens in Public
Friday, 11 Aug 2017
The Trump administration has been quietly engaged in back channel diplomacy with North Korea for several months, addressing Americans imprisoned in the communist country and deteriorating relations between the long-time foes, The Associated Press has learned.
It had been known the two sides had discussions to secure the June release of an American university student. But it wasn't known until now that the contacts have continued, or that they have broached matters other than U.S. detainees.
People familiar with the contacts say the interactions have done nothing thus far to quell tensions over North Korea's nuclear weapons and missile advances, which are now fueling fears of military confrontation. But they say the behind-the-scenes discussions could still be a foundation for more serious negotiation, including on North Korea's nuclear weapons, should President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un put aside the bellicose rhetoric of recent days and endorse a dialogue.
The contacts are occurring regularly between Joseph Yun, the U.S. envoy for North Korea policy, and Pak Song Il, a senior North Korean diplomat at the country's U.N. mission, according to U.S. officials and others briefed on the process. They weren't authorized to discuss the confidential exchanges and spoke on condition of anonymity.
Officials call it the "New York channel." Yun is the only U.S. diplomat in contact with any North Korean counterpart. The communications largely serve as a way to exchange messages, allowing Washington and Pyongyang to relay information.
Drowned out by the furor over Trump's warning to North Korea of "fire and fury like the world has never seen," Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has expressed a willingness to entertain negotiations. His condition: Pyongyang stopping tests of missiles that can now potentially reach the U.S. mainland.
Tillerson has even hinted at an ongoing back channel. "We have other means of communication open to them, to certainly hear from them if they have a desire to want to talk," he said at an Asian security meeting in the Philippines this week.
The interactions could point to a level of pragmatism in the Trump administration's approach to the North Korean threat, despite the president's dire warnings.
On Friday, he tweeted: "Military solutions are now fully in place, locked and loaded, should North Korea act unwisely." But on Thursday, he said, "we'll always consider negotiations," even if they haven't worked in the last quarter-century.
The contacts suggest Pyongyang, too, may be open to a negotiation even as it talks of launching missiles near the U.S. territory of Guam. The North regularly threatens nuclear strikes on the United States and its allies.
The State Department didn't immediately comment on Yun's diplomacy. The White House also had no comment. A diplomat at North Korea's U.N. mission only confirmed use of diplomatic channel up to the release of U.S. college student Otto Warmbier two months ago.
Trump, in some ways, has been more flexible in his approach to North Korea than President Barack Obama. While variations of the New York channel have been used on-and-off for years by past administrations, there were no discussions over the last seven months of Obama's presidency after Pyongyang broke them off in anger over U.S. sanctions imposed on its leader, Kim. Obama made little effort to reopen lines of communication.
The contacts quickly restarted after Trump's inauguration, other people familiar with the discussions say.
"Contrary to the public vitriol of the moment, the North Koreans were willing to reopen the New York channel following the election of President Trump and his administration signaled an openness to engage and 'talk about talks,'" said Keith Luse, executive director of the National Committee on North Korea, a U.S.-based group that promotes U.S.-North Korean engagement.
"However, the massive trust deficit in Pyongyang and in Washington toward each other has impeded the confidence-building process necessary to have constructive dialogue," he said.
The early U.S. focus was on securing the release of several Americans held in North Korea.
They included Warmbier, who was imprisoned for stealing a propaganda poster and only allowed to return to the U.S. in June — in an unconscious state. He died days later. Yun traveled on the widely publicized mission to Pyongyang to bring Warmbier home.
Despite outrage in the U.S. with Warmbier's treatment and sharp condemnation by Trump, the U.S.-North Korean interactions in New York continued.
Yun and his counterpart have discussed the other Americans still being held. They include Kim Hak Song, a university employee detained in May accused of unspecified "hostile" acts; Tony Kim, a teacher at the same school, accused of trying to overthrow the government; and Kim Dong Chul, sentenced last year to a decade in prison with hard labor for supposed espionage.
But the American and North Korean diplomats also have discussed the overall U.S.-North Korean relationship. The two countries have no diplomatic ties and are still enemies, having only reached an armistice — not a peace treaty — to end the 1950-1953 Korean War. Twenty-eight thousand U.S. troops are still stationed in South Korea.
In its own convoluted way, North Korea has indicated openness to talks in recent weeks, even as it has accelerated the tempo of weapons tests.
On July 4, after the North test-launched an intercontinental ballistic missile that could potentially strike the continental U.S., leader Kim added a new caveat to his refusal to negotiate over its nukes or missiles. Instead of a blanket rejection, he ruled out such concessions "unless the U.S. hostile policy and nuclear threat to the DPRK are definitely terminated."
That message has been repeated by other North Korean officials, without greater specification. Nor have they offered an indication as to whether Pyongyang would accept denuclearization as the goal of talks.
Still, advocates for diplomacy, including some voices in the U.S. government, view the addendum as a potential opening.
"North Korea is assessing its options," said Suzanne DiMaggio, a senior fellow at the New America think tank who participated in unofficial talks with North Korean officials in Oslo in May that were also attended by Yun. "They recognize that at some point they have to return to the table to address what's becoming a crisis. That's what they are weighing right now: the timing of engagement."
Any negotiation would face huge skepticism in Washington given North Korea's long record of broken promises. The last serious U.S.-North Korea negotiations collapsed in 2012 when Pyongyang launched a long-range rocket that derailed an agreement of a North Korean nuclear freeze in exchange for U.S. food aid.
North Korea's weapons program has developed significantly since then. As a result, its price in any such negotiation is now likely to be far higher. At a minimum, Pyongyang would renew its long-standing demands for an end to joint U.S.-South Korean military exercises — which are set to resume this month — and an eventual peace treaty with Washington.
To date, the Trump administration has heavily concentrated its diplomatic energy on cranking up international pressure on North Korea's government, in particular pressing China to lean on its wayward ally. Last weekend, the U.N. adopted its strongest economic sanctions on Pyongyang.
Trump has been widely accused of injecting a new element of unpredictability and even chaos into U.S. policy toward North Korea, especially with his tweets and proclamations this week. It's unclear what effect they may have on the back channel contacts being maintained by Yun.
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/US-North-Korea-Quiet-Diplomacy/2017/08/11/id/807122/
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I really can't take this draft dodging clown seriously.
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I really can't take this draft dodging clown seriously.
Yeah. We need an incompetent person who barely had a real full-time job before becoming president. No, wait, we just had eight years of a lazy, incompetent, appeaser.
Trump doesn't really know squat about foreign policy or the military, but he is surrounded by people who do. And so far, he appears to be following advice, which is a great leadership trait.
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Yeah. We need an incompetent person who barely had a real full-time job before becoming president. No, wait, we just had eight years of a lazy, incompetent, appeaser.
Trump doesn't really know squat about foreign policy or the military, but he is surrounded by people who do. And so far, he appears to be following advice, which is a great leadership trait.
Keep believing that Champ.
At least Obama wasn't a draft dodger.
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Keep believing that Champ.
At least Obama wasn't a draft dodger.
Yes, I will continue to believe the facts.
Obama may not have been a draft dodger, but he was an incompetent Commander in Chief. The worst of my lifetime.
Trump's grade as CIC is incomplete. We'll see how he performs over the long haul, but I cannot imagine he will not be an improvement over that disaster we had the last eight years.
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I found a way that we can play this to our advantage!
Lmao 😂😂😂
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Yes, I will continue to believe the facts.
Obama may not have been a draft dodger, but he was an incompetent Commander in Chief. The worst of my lifetime.
Trump's grade as CIC is incomplete. We'll see how he performs over the long haul, but I cannot imagine he will not be an improvement over that disaster we had the last eight years.
That's funny because I think the whole republican party have been totally incompetent going on 9 years now.
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That's funny because I think the whole republican party have been totally incompetent going on 9 years now.
No argument there.
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Mattis is the man. Here's what a man says about Korea.
"You don't shoot at people in this world unless you want to bear the consequences," Mattis told reporters
"The bottom line is we will defend the country from an attack -- for us that's war," he said.
No instigation. Just a simple A+B = C.
Best thing Trump has done is pick this guy.
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Mattis is the man. Here's what a man says about Korea.
"You don't shoot at people in this world unless you want to bear the consequences," Mattis told reporters
"The bottom line is we will defend the country from an attack -- for us that's war," he said.
No instigation. Just a simple A+B = C.
Best thing Trump has done is pick this guy.
Yeah I love that guy.
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:)
Mattis tells sailors they'll make a difference as military men because 'you're not some p***y sitting on the sidelines'
By David Martosko, Us Political Editor For Dailymail.com
PUBLISHED: 15 August 2017
Secretary of Defense James Mattis praised a group of sailors last week by telling them they'll never regret military service because it's a sign they're 'not some p--y sitting on the sidelines.'
The Pentagon's official transcript of Mattis' August 9 remarks includes the line, which went unnoticed at the time.
'Thanks for sticking with the Navy,' he said at the Naval Base Kitsap in the state of Washington, adding that the experience would change them 'for the better for the rest of your life.'
'So you'll never regret, but you will have some of the best days of your life and some of the worst days of your life in the U.S. Navy, you know what I mean? That says – that means you're living. That means you're living.'
'That means you're not some p***y sitting on the sidelines, you know what I mean, kind of sitting there saying, "Well, I should have done something with my life",' he said.
'You're not some p***y sitting on the sidelines!' Secretary of Defense James Mattis praised the crew of a nuclear submarine last week in his typical salty language
'Because of what you're doing now, you're not going to be laying on a shrink's couch when you're 45 years old, say "What the hell did I do with my life?" Why? Because you served others; you served something bigger than you.'
It's unclear if any women were among the sailors in Mattis' audience, who were all crew serving on the USS Kentucky nuclear missile submarine.
The U.S. Navy has allowed females to serve on submarines since 2010. A Pentagon spokesman did not have information available about whether any women are among the sub's crew members.
Mattis referred to his audience last week as 'guys' and 'fine young men.'
The retired Marine Corps general, is known for his salty language.
In a quotation widely attributed to him, he supposedly advised servicemen about how to handle anti-military activists on American soil.
'When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look at him in the eyes and shake his hand,' Mattis reportedly said. 'Then, wink at his girlfriend because she knows she's dating a p***y.'
And Mattis once recalled telling Iraqi military leaders in 2003 that 'I come in peace. I didn't bring artillery. But I'm pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, I’ll kill you all.'
His latest invocation of the 'p' word comes at a time when America's military is puffing out its chest in a standoff with North Korea, and with gender politics occupying some headlines.
President Donald Trump said last month that he would ban transgender Americans from serving in uniform.
But on Monday Mattis said the issue was far from decided.
'We are going to study the issue,' he told reporters at the Pentagon. 'The policy is going to address whether or not transgenders can serve under what conditions, what medical support they require, how much time would they be perhaps non-deployable, leaving others to pick up their share of everything.'
'There's a host of issues and I'm learning more about this than I ever thought I would and it's obviously very complex to include the privacy issues which we respect.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4793458/Mattis-praises-sailors-Not-p-y-sidelines.html#ixzz4ps5vOSun
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Mattis tells sailors they'll make a difference as military men because 'you're not some p***y sitting on the sidelines'
By David Martosko, Us Political Editor For Dailymail.com
PUBLISHED: 15 August 2017
Secretary of Defense James Mattis praised a group of sailors last week by telling them they'll never regret military service because it's a sign they're 'not some p--y sitting on the sidelines.'
The Pentagon's official transcript of Mattis' August 9 remarks includes the line, which went unnoticed at the time.
'Thanks for sticking with the Navy,' he said at the Naval Base Kitsap in the state of Washington, adding that the experience would change them 'for the better for the rest of your life.'
'So you'll never regret, but you will have some of the best days of your life and some of the worst days of your life in the U.S. Navy, you know what I mean? That says – that means you're living. That means you're living.'
'That means you're not some p***y sitting on the sidelines, you know what I mean, kind of sitting there saying, "Well, I should have done something with my life",' he said.
'You're not some p***y sitting on the sidelines!' Secretary of Defense James Mattis praised the crew of a nuclear submarine last week in his typical salty language
'Because of what you're doing now, you're not going to be laying on a shrink's couch when you're 45 years old, say "What the hell did I do with my life?" Why? Because you served others; you served something bigger than you.'
It's unclear if any women were among the sailors in Mattis' audience, who were all crew serving on the USS Kentucky nuclear missile submarine.
The U.S. Navy has allowed females to serve on submarines since 2010. A Pentagon spokesman did not have information available about whether any women are among the sub's crew members.
Mattis referred to his audience last week as 'guys' and 'fine young men.'
The retired Marine Corps general, is known for his salty language.
In a quotation widely attributed to him, he supposedly advised servicemen about how to handle anti-military activists on American soil.
'When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look at him in the eyes and shake his hand,' Mattis reportedly said. 'Then, wink at his girlfriend because she knows she's dating a p***y.'
And Mattis once recalled telling Iraqi military leaders in 2003 that 'I come in peace. I didn't bring artillery. But I'm pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, I’ll kill you all.'
His latest invocation of the 'p' word comes at a time when America's military is puffing out its chest in a standoff with North Korea, and with gender politics occupying some headlines.
President Donald Trump said last month that he would ban transgender Americans from serving in uniform.
But on Monday Mattis said the issue was far from decided.
'We are going to study the issue,' he told reporters at the Pentagon. 'The policy is going to address whether or not transgenders can serve under what conditions, what medical support they require, how much time would they be perhaps non-deployable, leaving others to pick up their share of everything.'
'There's a host of issues and I'm learning more about this than I ever thought I would and it's obviously very complex to include the privacy issues which we respect.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4793458/Mattis-praises-sailors-Not-p-y-sidelines.html#ixzz4ps5vOSun
Mattis is by far the best cabinet appointment Trump has made.
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Trump's Afghanistan address: What to watch for
Published August 21, 2017
Fox News
In an address to the nation Monday night, President Trump is expected to reveal his strategy in Afghanistan – and America’s longest war.
Trump’s speech comes after he huddled with his top national security aides Friday at Camp David, the secluded military retreat outside of Washington, D.C. The president tweeted on Saturday that “many decisions” were made at Camp David, “including on Afghanistan.”
Trump didn’t offer any clues on social media as to what specific decisions were made pertaining to Afghanistan.
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Important day spent at Camp David with our very talented Generals and military leaders. Many decisions made, including on Afghanistan.
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Read on for more information about his Monday address.
What are Trump's options for Afghanistan?
In a statement about the speech, the White House said Trump will “provide an update on the path forward for America’s engagement in Afghanistan and South Asia.”
Trump has several options when it comes to Afghanistan, from withdrawing troops and ending America’s longest war to sending additional military personnel.
TRUMP TO ADDRESS NATION ON AFGHANISTAN
The challenge for Trump – which tested former President Barack Obama as well – is how to continue to fight terrorism and the Taliban while still promoting peace.
The administration’s Afghanistan strategy is expected to be shaped by a review of its approach to the broader region – including Pakistan and India.
Defense Secretary James Mattis, who visited Afghanistan over the weekend, declared himself satisfied with how the administration had formulated its new strategy. But he refused to discuss details before Trump's announcement.
What do other Republicans want?
Among elected leaders in the U.S., opinions are mixed about America's future role in Afghanistan.
Ohio Gov. John Kasich favors withdrawing the approximately 8,400 U.S. troops currently in Afghanistan — not sending in more.
AFGHAN POLICE: TALIBAN ASSAULT UNDERWAY IN AFGHANISTAN
“I want our people to be able to come home,” Kasich said during an interview with CNN on Sunday.
Sen. John McCain, chairman of the Armed Services Committee, unveiled his own plan for Afghanistan last week – which would increase ground and air forces in the Middle Eastern country.
He said the U.S. needs to put strict conditions on continued assistance to Afghanistan and require the Kabul government to demonstrate "measurable progress" in curbing corruption, strengthening the rule of law and improving financial transparency.
What about the Pentagon?
The Pentagon months ago settled on a plan to send nearly 4,000 additional troops to aid the Afghan Army. It is awaiting a final announcement from Trump on the proposal.
MATTIS TIGHT-LIPPED ON NEW AFGHANISTAN WAR STRATEGY
Ahead of Trump’s speech, Gen. John Nicholson, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, hailed the launch of the Afghan Army’s new special operations corps and declared that “we are with you and we will stay with you.”
His comments suggested that the Pentagon may have won its argument that the U.S. military must remain engaged in Afghanistan to ensure terrorists aren’t able to threaten the U.S., according to the Associated Press.
Where can you watch the speech?
Trump will give the address from the Army’s Joint Base Myer-Henderson Hall in the Rosslyn neighborhood of Arlington, Va. The base sits next to Arlington National Cemetery – the final resting place for many U.S. troops who died fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq.
The address is expected to begin at 9 p.m. EDT and can be viewed on the Fox News Channel with special coverage, anchored by Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum, followed by "Hannity" at 10:00pm ET and "The Five" at 11:00pm ET.
Follow along online via FoxNews.com’s live blog.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/21/trumps-afghanistan-address-what-to-watch-for.html
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Yes, I will continue to believe the facts.
Obama may not have been a draft dodger, but he was an incompetent Commander in Chief. The worst of my lifetime.
Trump's grade as CIC is incomplete. We'll see how he performs over the long haul, but I cannot imagine he will not be an improvement over that disaster we had the last eight years.
So you think he will be in it for the "long haul"? I'm not so confident of this.
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So you think he will be in it for the "long haul"? I'm not so confident of this.
I know some people are trying speak him quitting into existence, but I think that's foolishness. As things stand now, I'll be surprised if he isn't reelected. Have to see what dud Democrats are going to nominate and a lot can happen between now and 2020, but as of now I see him getting a second term.
Interested to see how he approaches Afghanistan. No easy answers.
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Would love to see Trump stay pretty well hands off and see what Defense Secretary Mattis can do over the next 7 years.
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Gotta feed the military contractors.
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Gotta feed the military contractors.
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wtf is up with mcmaster, the guy has the intellect of a hs gym teacher