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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Danimal77 on August 18, 2017, 04:15:07 AM
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This off-season version of Lee Haney guest posing at 265 pounds in 1991 would have blown away MANY of the 1990's TOP guys. Lee Haney clearly had the mass to go toe to toe with a 1992 version of Dorian, who was only 242 pounds (only 3 pounds heavier than he weighed in 1991 when he lost to Haney). Even a 1993 Dorian was only 256 or 257 pounds. I believe this version of Lee Haney would have beaten a 1992 Dorian and quite possibly a 1993 and beyond version too, had Lee kept competing and getting larger, without compromising his symmetry.
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:o
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It would have been close. It's one of those things that we will never know, like Dorian vs Ronnie 1998.
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Lee "probably" could have won in 1992, but not in 1993. Dorian's condition would of been too much for Lee.
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Dorian dropped extra weight in 1992 because Haney wasn't there. He didn't mind coming in 6 pounds lighter because his main competition was Labrada and Ray. Also Haney would have needed to show up in shape, no guarantee.
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And he doesn't have a GH gut either..
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These exact pics seem to get posted every few months with the same synopsis ('92 Dorian wouldn't beat it).
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He looks too top heavy in my opinion. Certain shots of Haney are great but I'm not a fan of these ones.
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He looks too top heavy in my opinion. Certain shots of Haney are great but I'm not a fan of these ones.
But still, no GH gut in comparison to Yates but still with comparable overall size.
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Man, what a shame to see how bodybuilding has de-volved from Haney to Phildo.
Phildo thinks he is awesome because he wins in an era of shit bodybuilding (and even then about 3 of his wins he didn't deserve). It's like he won the 100 meter dash at the special olympics. "Yeah Phildo, you won, but... oh forget it."
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What's easy to forget is that Lee was still so young when he walked away.
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He looks too top heavy in my opinion.
agreed. he needed more quad size to balance out properly.
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Dorian was so much harder and had way better legs.
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haha top heavy
a word invented by people who wants to see the ass of a man.
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Dorian was so much harder and had way better legs.
A '92 matchup would still be interesting.
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Dorian was so much harder and had way better legs.
Haney had far better legs than Dorian did. Dorian had awful and deformed quad muscles.
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A '92 matchup would still be interesting.
It begs the question WHY Haney didn't feel confident enough in himself to go against Dorian in 1992. I don't think we even saw the full potential of Haney. He was still young and could have packed even more mass (270-275 pounds easily) onto his frame at 5'11". Haney didn't strike me as a coward. Dorian bowed out in 1998 because his body was a wreck, but Haney was injury free and YOUNGish.
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In '91 his legs were improving... worth noting.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=607123.0;attach=674587;image)
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Couple more..
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3932343&d=1323389976)
(https://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3932353&d=1323389977)
(https://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3656963&d=1314335174)
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In '91 his legs were improving... worth noting.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=607123.0;attach=674587;image)
Like I said, we really didn't get to see Haney's true potential. He was never really pushed in the 80's to get better. He began to be pushed in 1991 by Dorian and Vince Taylor and would have been pushed even more in 1992 (Kevin Levrone, Shawn Ray) and beyond (Flex Wheeler, Paul Dillet, etc). The man could have become even heavier with more cuts and could have rivaled a lot of the top guys from the 90's.
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Couple more..
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3932343&d=1323389976)
(https://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3932353&d=1323389977)
(https://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3656963&d=1314335174)
I posted the 3rd pic ;)
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The Man Retired Like a True Gentleman He Was/Is!...A True Champion Inside and Outside The Stage!!...Respect!...
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It begs the question WHY Haney didn't feel confident enough in himself to go against Dorian in 1992. I don't think we even saw the full potential of Haney. He was still young and could have packed even more mass (270-275 pounds easily) onto his frame at 5'11". Haney didn't strike me as a coward. Dorian bowed out in 1998 because his body was a wreck, but Haney was injury free and YOUNGish.
Yea, shame on Lee for retiring after winning 8 Olympia's in a row and beating Dorian already.
What an idiotic post.
Comparing Lee to Dorian is like comparing a Bentley to a highly polished turd. If anyone is wondering what a big old truck driver looks like with all the fat burnt off, Dorian is it. Flows like dogshit, belly of a cow.
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That's just a holy fuck physique. What could have been. Simply unreal.
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Haney had far better legs than Dorian did. Dorian had awful and deformed quad muscles.
Dorian's tanning was off. Not sure what's 'awful and deformed' about Dorian's legs.
Lee had deeper lines, but he was never had that granite look of a Dorian.
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the granite look of dorian is a myth created with those black/white photos.
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the granite look of dorian is a myth created with those black/white photos.
Are you suggesting that those photos weren't legit?
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Are you suggesting that those photos weren't legit?
im suggesting that photos can be deceiving and a poor method to judge physiques.
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im suggesting that photos can be deceiving and a poor method to judge physiques.
Maybe.. Unfortunately, Kevin Horton never made similar photo's from Lee (i.e. same place, distance & lightning)
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Dorian graniteness was no myth. I saw him 2x at olympias. It's been said a million times you had to see him live
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DOrian was great but Lee was greater
Lee also had a much better overall shape, better V taper, smaller waist, better delts and his back was good if not better than doz
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If Haney was competing, Dorian would have waxed him in 92 and 93.
Haney knew it. He went all out and probably a bit outside his comfort zone in '91, and knew he would have to go further to even sniff having a chance after.
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Yates took the 91 0 muscularity round. He would (most likely) have done the same in 92 but bigger with most likely improved posing etc. A lot of what if's yes. Haney doesn't get due respect. 92 would be epic as far as bodybuilding goes. Haney retired correctly.
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Dorian graniteness was no myth. I saw him 2x at olympias. It's been said a million times you had to see him live
^^^ This. I was at the 93 O.
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So purpose of the post is....to show pics where Haney sort of looks like he gassed up enough to hang with Yates one time? Yates retired him just to remind everyone.
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So purpose of the post is....to show pics where Haney sort of looks like he gassed up enough to hang with Yates one time? Yates retired him just to remind everyone.
LOL'd at retired Haney.
Haney retired after winning 8 consecutive O's and sonning Yates.
Yates cant claim any of the above. He never beat Haney. He only won 6 O's and he retired cos he kept tearing shit, unlike Haney who never displayed missing bodyparts or a GUNT.
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dont forget that dorians method of training was superior ::) ::) ::)
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dont forget that dorians method of training was superior ::) ::) ::)
Yea, the "train til you tear the muscle off the bone" method really works well for longevity.
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Day-yum! Lee really was freaky there.
Could he have won in '92? If Dorian won the muscularity round the previous year and Lee showed up that heavy in Helsinki, he would lose that round again -- badly. And even though he was crazy big (his pecs, late and traps were fucking insane!), he would also lose the symmetry round...arms waaaaay undersized for his torso, and his waist was blown out.
Yates '93 would've smoked his ass, no matter what. BUT, imagine if Haney kept training and hit the gas in '94. Thanks to the torn bi, I reckon Haney could have won that year, then lost again in '95 had he pushed it.
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Haney awesome physique, and would have pushed yates all the way in 92, but not 93, genetically I think Lee was at least his equal, he just wasn't willing to go to the next level with his prep to compete with him, I dont doubt if he upped the dosage he could have, but why his legacy was already there, plenty of guys have left this sport with better genetics than others they just didn't want to do the dosages and who can blame them the sport isn't a sound investment guaranteeing long term financial security and good health, in all honesty it delivers the exact opposite.
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Yea, shame on Lee for retiring after winning 8 Olympia's in a row and beating Dorian already.
What an idiotic post.
Comparing Lee to Dorian is like comparing a Bentley to a highly polished turd. If anyone is wondering what a big old truck driver looks like with all the fat burnt off, Dorian is it. Flows like dogshit, belly of a cow.
Hahaha the irony that you mentioned Bentley and that it's from England like Dorian
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Like I said, we really didn't get to see Haney's true potential. He was never really pushed in the 80's to get better. He began to be pushed in 1991 by Dorian and Vince Taylor and would have been pushed even more in 1992 (Kevin Levrone, Shawn Ray) and beyond (Flex Wheeler, Paul Dillet, etc). The man could have become even heavier with more cuts and could have rivaled a lot of the top guys from the 90's.
He would've developed a gut and palumboism would be knocking on the door.