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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: sancho ed on August 22, 2017, 05:42:40 PM
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Tmz reports....and gets strippped
Jones had just come off his one-year suspension after testing positive for another illegal substance he claimed was in a male enhancement pill, which means he very likely could be banned from MMA for up to four years,
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What does he NOT test positive for?
Most upstanding citizen?
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jon jones has to get award from dumbest fighter ever. he has lost millions of dollars in lost income from all his fuck ups.
if this is true he faces a 4 year ban .
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What a dumbass....
http://www.totalprosports.com/2017/08/22/breaking-jon-jones-failed-his-ufc-214-post-fight-drug-test-title-stripped/
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Surely this cant be true, if it is Jones is finished he couldn't possibly be so stupid to be using with his history
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What is this, like 2, 3 or 4 times now?
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Daniel cried for nothing. Jones should be done at this point although Bellator may pick him up.
Certainly has had shitty drug coaches. Help him out Coach.
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(http://img.mixedmartialarts.com/method=get&s=jon-jones-09-15-11-14-19-3-349.jpg)
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Should have hired Victor Conte, guy still works with elite athletes just keeps things discrete.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DH4It1aU0AADCGE.jpg)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DH4It1aU0AADCGE.jpg)
Perfect. :D
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One of the stupidest athletes in memory.
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One of the stupidest athletes in memory.
Should have just played football like his brothers.
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Daniel cried for nothing. Jones should be done at this point although Bellator may pick him up.
Certainly has had shitty drug coaches. Help him out Coach.
I'm good. I only train one MMA athlete now. He's 42 and on a five win streak 😎
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Should have hired Victor Conte, guy still works with elite athletes just keeps things discrete.
Met him back in the day, pretty low key fella.
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Also, Junior Dos Santos failed his drug test for his upcoming fight at UFC 215. This is pathetic
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Also, Junior Dos Santos failed his drug test for his upcoming fight at UFC 215. This is pathetic
I thought he was finished?
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I would be surprised if he got a lengthy suspension or even a ban. Bellator is slowly creeping up on UFC as the better organization
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steroid cheating faggets
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I thought he was finished?
No, Junior was supposed to fight in 2 weeks at UFC 215
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I'm good. I only train one MMA athlete now. He's 42 and on a five win streak 😎
What idiot would have him on that oral and not have it out for his system by fight night??
I know you would! Hell I would too. 8)
Met him back in the day, pretty low key fella.
Me too. Nice guy.
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I would be surprised if he got a lengthy suspension or even a ban. Bellator is slowly creeping up on UFC as the better organization
He'll get 4 years from USADA during which time he wont get licensed by any of the Athletic Commissions.
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Kevin Lee reacts with alot of neegul-comments regarding Jones
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What idiot would have him on that oral and not have it out for his system by fight night??
I know you would! Hell I would too. 8)
Okay hit me, let's say he used Turinabol. How long after last use would you be certain he would test clean?
I like to think I know a thing or two about drugs but I wouldn't even attempt it.
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I was in rehab with him after his first failed drug test, he was a dick to everyone especially the random drug testers
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What idiot would have him on that oral and not have it out for his system by fight night??
I know you would! Hell I would too. 8)
Me too. Nice guy.
I have no idea. I can't even get my fighter to eat and he's a heavyweight
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Okay hit me, let's say he used Turinabol. How long after last use would you be certain he would test clean?
I like to think I know a thing or two about drugs but I wouldn't even attempt it.
It's such an old east german steroid I'm surprised he was using it and it depends on whether it was oral or injectable. I would assume oral which would be out in eight days and to be safe go off two/three weeks before the fight. The biological passport is really needed to design any protocol when USADA is in the game. The gurus would use that and new masking agents etc. It's much tougher however people like Conte are always working on it.
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You need to give yourself even more time than normal getting clean when making weight, the dehydration squeezes out every last metabolite. Jones is finished now.
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Guy never step inside the octagon clean. Never.
The definition of a steroid fighter.
I don't think he has ever fought clean.
Maybe he was clean in this grappling match where he looked like shit?
(http://thrillblender.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/jon-jones-vs-dan-henderson-in-underground-grappling-match.jpg)
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I think his years and years of recreational drug usage och PED usage have fucked him up and he cant be natural any more.
Turanibol is Dianabol, for fucks sake. He needs that to be big enough for LHW? SAD..!!!
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It's such an old east german steroid I'm surprised he was using it and it depends on whether it was oral or injectable. I would assume oral which would be out in eight days and to be safe go off two/three weeks before the fight. The biological passport is really needed to design any protocol when USADA is in the game. The gurus would use that and new masking agents etc. It's much tougher however people like Conte are always working on it.
I'm pretty positive you assume wrong and your presumed client would fail. Some orals are said to be detectable for 6 months nowadays! The exact data, when it exists, is secret so it's hard to know exactly. I think there was some data on Winstrol and it being detectable for 6 months when used orally.
Conte ratted out his clients and openly said he'll help catch cheaters now so using him would be stupid.
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I'm pretty positive you assume wrong and your presumed client would fail. Some orals are said to be detectable for 6 months nowadays! The exact data, when it exists, is secret so it's hard to know exactly. I think there was some data on Winstrol and it being detectable for 6 months when used orally.
Conte ratted out his clients and openly said he'll help catch cheaters now so using him would be stupid.
That's why I said people like Conte. I was looking based on wada so maybe it's changed. With orals this was a good guideline but of course random testing changes the game altogether.
1-1.5 months*** oxymetholone
fluoxymesterone
methandienone
mesterolone
ethylestrenol
norethadrolone
oxandrolone
oral stanozolol
methyltestosterone
testosterone propionate
oral testosterone undecanoate
oral methenolone acetate
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Good ole' Chinese powders. Jones thought he was using Anavar or even D-bol but it was really Turanibol. Anavar and Dbol have a half life of approx 5-8 hours. Turanibol's is closer to 16 hours. hahahahahahahaha
At this level i would guess they test the shit before using.
They probably miscalculated the detection time or the test they are using is just more advanced and accurate i guess. Back in the days very few guys were positive despite OBVIOUS steroid use. Tests are just harder to beat now.
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Kevin Lee reacts with alot of neegul-comments regarding Jones
we cant use that word on getbig, and its quite possible we cant use videos where they use that word either!
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At this level i would guess they test the shit before using.
They probably miscalculated the detection time or the test they are using is just more advanced and accurate i guess. Back in the days very few guys were positive despite OBVIOUS steroid use. Tests are just harder to beat now.
there is a documentary online about Ben Johnson, a doctor went back to the labs where they stored all the samples from the 88 games (they always keep them) and started testing the medal winners samples with the up to date testing procedures, he said they all were coming back positive.
He just binned the findings, he said almost all the medal winners would have been stripped if he had declared the results
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so what benefits you reckon jones got from using turanibol?
for some reason he thought he couldnt win without it against dc
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6'4 205lbs 12 %
A freak of nature
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That's why I said people like Conte. I was looking based on wada so maybe it's changed. With orals this was a good guideline but of course random testing changes the game altogether.
1-1.5 months*** oxymetholone
fluoxymesterone
methandienone
mesterolone
ethylestrenol
norethadrolone
oxandrolone
oral stanozolol
methyltestosterone
testosterone propionate
oral testosterone undecanoate
oral methenolone acetate
These detection times you find on the net are worthless.
Like I said the testing advances all the time and whatever data say the WADA has on detection times they keep secret for obvious reasons. There is a bunch of stuff on pubmed though, for example a single 2mg dose of oral stanozolol is detectable for 16 days via a certain testing method, etc.
I read something about orals being incorporated into fat cells and with the high sensitivity of testing the metabolites may be detectable for months.
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a training camp before a fight is like 2-3 months so he wouldve taken it during that time i assume
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You need to give yourself even more time than normal getting clean when making weight, the dehydration squeezes out every last metabolite. Jones is finished now.
Exactly. Stop using, have a pre-cut to free up the fat-soluble metabolites.
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Jones is a train wreck.
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there is a documentary online about Ben Johnson, a doctor went back to the labs where they stored all the samples from the 88 games (they always keep them) and started testing the medal winners samples with the up to date testing procedures, he said they all were coming back positive.
He just binned the findings, he said almost all the medal winners would have been stripped if he had declared the results
Including Carl lewis on many occasions
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With all that money why use turnibol makes no freaken sense you think a top guy in the UFC would have a better selection of peds to use.
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With all that money why use turnibol makes no freaken sense you think a top guy in the UFC would have a better selection of peds to use.
You mean like a designer steroid? Or a different class of drugs?
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These detection times you find on the net are worthless.
This is the truth. Most I see are based on 80's - 90's methods and practices. Every few years, the detection times get bumped up by a few more months. I've seen conjecture that it might be up to a year plus for certain orals by now.
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You mean like a designer steroid? Or a different class of drugs?
Ya pay some good money have a chemist make something with lower detection time. I'm sure it could be done.
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there is a documentary online about Ben Johnson, a doctor went back to the labs where they stored all the samples from the 88 games (they always keep them) and started testing the medal winners samples with the up to date testing procedures, he said they all were coming back positive.
He just binned the findings, he said almost all the medal winners would have been stripped if he had declared the results
He should have published the results!
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these new owners who bout the ufc have no idea what they got into, they are sitting on 2 billion in debt and just lost there second biggest draw
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good point
i would think the interest in womens fighting has gone down since ronda rousey.
flyweight is not going to sell any tickets.
not too many fights you can make in bantam weight.
who knows if conor comes back, which affects both featherweight and lightweight.
welterweight got all kinds of problems with woodley being the champ after the fight against maia.
middleweight, i dont see bisping taking too many more fights. light hw is a mess now
and hw we got stipe who doesnt seem to wanna fight. cain is injured. alistair is 1 contender, i doubt he will be around much longer.
so they got what, bisping vs gsp?
i only look forward to kevin lee and tony ferguson at the moment.
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Kevin Lee reacts with alot of neegul-comments regarding Jones
The Fertittas looking like geniuses for bailing out when they did. This ghetto rat is one of their rising stars.
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I look forward to a gassed up jones vs Brock in Japan in a few years
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Good ole' Chinese powders. Jones thought he was using Anavar or even D-bol but it was really Turanibol. Anavar and Dbol have a half life of approx 5-8 hours. Turanibol's is closer to 16 hours. hahahahahahahaha
Yea but turanibol is a lot more expensive then dbol. Unless someone was purposely trying to screw him.
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Yea but turanibol is a lot more expensive then dbol. Unless someone was purposely trying to screw him.
I doubt the half-life impacts detection window anyway. Turinabol is a good steroid with a proven track record, I bet he used it knowingly.
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I doubt the half-life impacts detection window anyway. Turinabol is a good steroid with a proven track record, I bet he used it knowingly.
I'd guess that each drug has a metabolite that the body clears in varying time ranges
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There's stupid, and there's massively stupid. This guy just exceeded all expectations ;D
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He hasn't been stripped of the title.
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In that order. About 2:50 into the video.
Maybe the truth, but still..
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In house Getbig attorney, Harley Breite is already speaking with Cormier about a possible lawsuit against UFC and Jones.
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Anyone taking PED's while involved in combat sports should be barred for life. The consequences of hitting a baseball while on anabolics is completely different than hitting someone's head. People are worried about homerun records and not CT's or MRI's
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Fuck that guy,have compassion for coke addicts but not steroid users.Fucked up society.coke addicts are scum most roid users are not.
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He's right though. People take grams of drugs to look muscular and risk their health in the process. The fact that there's no set protocol when it comes to steroids and it's just a take what you want attitude is bad.
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He's right though. People take grams of drugs to look muscular and risk their health in the process. The fact that there's no set protocol when it comes to steroids and it's just a take what you want attitude is bad.
Yeah it is but these guys aren't robbing and killing people for their drugs like crack addict and heroin addicts they risk their life they know that.
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It least Stephen A. mentioned BBing. Gets some mainstream press, even though it's bad. :'(
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Many use steroids. Maybe the Diaz brothers are the only ones who prefer weed instead of steroids.
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6'4 205lbs 12 %
A freak of nature
12% is fat as fuck
and what a shit physique on this turd
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I would be surprised if he got a lengthy suspension or even a ban. Bellator is slowly creeping up on UFC as the better organization
He'll get a 2 year suspension minimum. The ufc is probably done with jones.
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i would kill jones i outweigh him by 170 pounds
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Conte ratted out his clients and openly said he'll help catch cheaters now so using him would be stupid.
Conte said this before Jones was busted
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Tmz reports....and gets strippped
Jones had just come off his one-year suspension after testing positive for another illegal substance he claimed was in a male enhancement pill, which means he very likely could be banned from MMA for up to four years,
What did he test positive for last time? The same shit?
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I'd guess that each drug has a metabolite that the body clears in varying time ranges
http://hpst.cz/sites/default/files/attachments/5990-5748en-longterm-detection-anabolic-steroids-metabolites-urine.pdf
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http://hpst.cz/sites/default/files/attachments/5990-5748en-longterm-detection-anabolic-steroids-metabolites-urine.pdf
The detection times here are still quite short, from a few days to a couple of weeks. But that typically after a single oral dose of say
2mg stanozolol or methandrostenolone. Question is what happens when you run a cycle of weeks or months, if the hormone gets diffused into fat cells or whatever.
As Conte said in my above quote, it was obvious to a trained eye to see that Jones fucking around with steroids even when he didn't
fail for any specific drug. So they may have let it slide as long as he didn't outright fail, but since he got caught with actual metabolites there is no doubt.
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jones still the best.ped or no ped. they are all on steroirds gh anyway.
dont awnt to watch fat dc wrestle people for 5 hours "embracing the grind"
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i dont believe it
next theyre gonna claim phil heath is on steroids ::)