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Title: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: gib on August 23, 2017, 05:29:36 AM
Three words.

pharama grade, moderation.

All of Phil and Jays drugs are sourced from a doctor. All are exact dosed. All are taken in sensible doses (that is as sensible as can be for a bodybuilding type result).
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: Rascal full on August 23, 2017, 05:33:57 AM
Phil does one show a year so he is only taxing his system for 12 weeks of the year and the rest of the time he's probably only running Test, GH and one or two other bits.
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: Evo on August 23, 2017, 05:53:52 AM
Three words.

pharama grade, moderation.

All of Phil and Jays drugs are sourced from a doctor. All are exact dosed. All are taken in sensible doses (that is as sensible as can be for a bodybuilding type result).

Oh yeah all that pharma grade tren ::)

Moron.

Both have down time...

Both have gained steadily over the years...

Both train sensibly...
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: ratherbebig on August 23, 2017, 06:03:04 AM
hardly any bodybuilders die

top 15 of arnold classic in 1989 are all still alive, 28 years later.
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 23, 2017, 06:05:58 AM
Oh yeah all that pharma grade tren ::)

Moron.

Both have down time...

Both have gained steadily over the years...

Both train sensibly...


Where can I find more pics of the ass in your avatar, sir?
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: SuperTed on August 23, 2017, 06:10:32 AM
It's probably just genetics. Some individuals have bodies that can handle abuse better then others.
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: Pet shop boys on August 23, 2017, 07:11:22 AM
hardly any bodybuilders die

top 15 of arnold classic in 1989 are all still alive, 28 years later.

True , probably they all have weak kidneys,liver etc ...

But that doesn't really mean DEATH .


WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: Disgusted on August 23, 2017, 08:37:13 AM
Three words.

pharama grade, moderation.

All of Phil and Jays drugs are sourced from a doctor. All are exact dosed. All are taken in sensible doses (that is as sensible as can be for a bodybuilding type result).


Hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha




Carry on
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: ChevChelios on August 23, 2017, 08:47:09 AM
True , probably they all have weak kidneys,liver etc ...

But that doesn't really mean DEATH .


WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Weak compared to who? If you compare them to average retard Joe that drinks , eats like a pig and lies on sofa every fucking day then i doubt they are in bad shape. If you compare them to people that ate good all life, moderate to none alcohol and do sports regulary then yeah, they will be in worser shape.

After all it all comes to gene, some people abuse the shit out of their bodies and have no damage, other people do everything right and get cancer at 30. Life  ::)  :D
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 23, 2017, 08:53:16 AM

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha




Carry on


x2

Phil and Jay aren't dead yet because of one thing....It wasn't their time.
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: Ropo on August 23, 2017, 09:05:09 AM
hardly any bodybuilders die

top 15 of arnold classic in 1989 are all still alive, 28 years later.

But 28 years ago all insulin users were diabetics, all users of injected hormones were cattle and all bodybuilders were natural athletes who hardly take even protein ;D
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: calfzilla on August 23, 2017, 11:50:45 AM
Jay also doesn't use rec drugs.
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: maxkane69 on August 23, 2017, 12:29:17 PM
Three words.

pharama grade, moderation :D.

All of Phil and Jays drugs are sourced from a doctor. All are exact dosed. All are taken in sensible doses :D(that is as sensible as can be for a bodybuilding type result).
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: The Keto Kid on August 23, 2017, 12:44:59 PM
Robby Robinson has been said to have used Deca for 30 years straight, and you can bet it isn't pharma grade.
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: sceagacros on August 23, 2017, 12:49:34 PM
Long term , extremely heavy steroid use? I got two words.........Louie Simmons...
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: Simple Simon on August 23, 2017, 03:28:35 PM
Robby Robinson has been said to have used Deca for 30 years straight, and you can bet it isn't pharma grade or paid for.

fixed...
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: Disgusted on August 23, 2017, 04:37:49 PM
fixed...

 ;D
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: Emmortal on August 23, 2017, 04:43:43 PM
It's probably just genetics. Some individuals have bodies that can handle abuse better then others.

That and I think it's more of a clear and cut case of guys who do recs and guys who don't.  All the painkillers, meth, coke etc along with the juice is what adds up to the health issues a lot of these guys have.
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: Redux on August 23, 2017, 04:46:01 PM
it's mostly genectics
some guys just have a better constitution for gear usage
same way some people catch a cold at the drop of a hat and some don't get sick ever
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: honest on August 23, 2017, 04:57:58 PM
take AAS user moderate bodybuilding dosages live to be 60 when life span was 70, add in stimulants clenbuterol and insulin you lose another ten years. trying to downsize to improve your chances of long life also helps. Just an opinion.
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: Matt on August 23, 2017, 05:05:01 PM
Oh yeah all that pharma grade tren ::)

Moron.

Both have down time...

Both have gained steadily over the years...

Both train sensibly...


Funny thing about Jay is that I don't recall him ever being off since 1996.  Possibly even 1993.  Possibly even earlier than that!  When he was being interviewed by that shorter Italian-American bodybuilding aficionado in the teen contest where Branch beat him for the overall, he mentioned that his family feared for his health - and that was in 1993.

hardly any bodybuilders die

top 15 of arnold classic in 1989 are all still alive, 28 years later.

Very true.  This is why I love your posts.  We also both have a shared love of the iron.  The main difference between us, goals-wise, is that you would ratherbebig.  And hey - there's nothing wrong with that.  8)
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: Top Poodle on August 23, 2017, 05:18:47 PM
Weak compared to who? If you compare them to average retard Joe that drinks , eats like a pig and lies on sofa every fucking day then i doubt they are in bad shape. If you compare them to people that ate good all life, moderate to none alcohol and do sports regulary then yeah, they will be in worser shape.

After all it all comes to gene, some people abuse the shit out of their bodies and have no damage, other people do everything right and get cancer at 30. Life  ::)  :D


Weak compared to Dallas
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: FREAKgeek on August 23, 2017, 05:25:22 PM
It's probably just genetics. Some individuals have bodies that can handle abuse better then others.

This.

It's like people who smoke cigarettes all their lives and live to 90
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: Matt on August 24, 2017, 01:22:28 AM
This.

It's like people who smoke cigarettes all their lives and live to 90

Yep - also consider that Jay's father was something like 86 in 2012 or 2013. I think he was born somewhere between 1925 and 1927, and Jay was the youngest child.  So Jay seemingly has some good male genetics on his side.

It was interesting to me that for all the gear required to be Mr. Olympia, it was Phil's ex-wife who was diagnosed with (breast) cancer.
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: Rimstinger on August 24, 2017, 01:45:00 AM
Markus Still going strong and seeing off younger bodybuilders.

(http://i.imgur.com/R94nKNv.jpg)
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: Bevo on August 24, 2017, 02:16:17 AM
Also something to consider is phil and jay slowly moved up the ranks as opposed to someone like Dallas and Compton whom were both loaded to the gills from the beginning

Ramy might be up and coming dead pool soon too
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: rangerwil on August 24, 2017, 07:18:09 PM
Add in the worlds best doctors that understand AAS/GH/Insulin usage pertaining to the sport of weight lifting and bodybuilding.

Money can buy you that kind of service.
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: gib on August 24, 2017, 07:38:35 PM
Add in the worlds best doctors that understand AAS/GH/Insulin usage pertaining to the sport of weight lifting and bodybuilding.

Money can buy you that kind of service.

Correct. They have the same doctor actually. And as I said pharamagrade everything - gh, test, insulin, steroids, diuretics, epo, site enhancement injections. Everything pharmacy grade and medically supervised.
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: Yanin on August 24, 2017, 09:26:12 PM
Some say Boston over doses yet he's alive and well? Rich is a freak as well, two good sudjects. Would anyone say Dallas did more than them?
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: IronMagazine.com on August 24, 2017, 10:40:58 PM
Three words.

pharama grade, moderation.

All of Phil and Jays drugs are sourced from a doctor. All are exact dosed. All are taken in sensible doses (that is as sensible as can be for a bodybuilding type result).

You just won dumbest post of the year. Congrats.
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: Simple Simon on August 25, 2017, 12:19:57 AM
Maybe these days at the top level they don't even count the gms, its just what they can get in without the PIP being too uncomfortable at injection sites.

I think OTH said a pro friend of his simply couldn't inject any more, that was how he calculated his dosage.
Title: Any More Deaths Till Olympia Weekend
Post by: Joe Valentino on August 25, 2017, 07:49:12 AM
Anyone with a lot of time to lose, like me, to fill this topic.

Predictions ?
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: gib on August 25, 2017, 10:57:03 PM
You just won dumbest post of the year. Congrats.

Actually I know what I'm talking about with these two as do any of us in their inner circle.

So it's actually your post that is pretty dumb.
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: gib on August 25, 2017, 11:00:16 PM
Some say Boston over doses yet he's alive and well? Rich is a freak as well, two good sudjects. Would anyone say Dallas did more than them?

Dallas put on way more size. Which is what strained the heart. Also way more serious about training, dieting, competing / diuretics. So even if same dosages pushed it way harder. I'm guessing that Dallas also did way higher doses of Gh.
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: falco on August 28, 2017, 07:51:00 AM
Three words.

pharama grade, moderation.

All of Phil and Jays drugs are sourced from a doctor. All are exact dosed. All are taken in sensible doses (that is as sensible as can be for a bodybuilding type result).

You earned yourself couple hundred enemies now.
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: Dave D on August 28, 2017, 08:02:15 AM
Actually I know what I'm talking about with these two as do any of us in their inner circle.

So it's actually your post that is pretty dumb.

This doctor is taking a risk with his/her practice.

What made Jay and Phil so special that a doctor works with these two as opposed to Branch?

That is an elite level of schmoing.
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: Ronnie Rep on August 28, 2017, 08:15:58 AM
This.

It's like people who smoke cigarettes all their lives and live to 90
QFT
Title: Re: The reason why Phil and Jay didn't die yet
Post by: Griffith on August 28, 2017, 08:38:09 AM
Jay Cutler has slimmed down quite a bit, hasn't he?