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Title: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: Straw Man on August 29, 2017, 11:41:12 AM
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EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy

You know the drill. The head of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), Scott Pruitt, has been asked about something scientific and has said something ludicrous in response.

Shortly after announcing that he wants climate researchers to “debate” climate deniers on live TV, he gave a characteristically painful interview to a Texas radio show. Just after appearing to endorse peer-reviewed science, he added that “science should not be something that’s just thrown about to try and dictate policy in Washington DC.”

http://www.iflscience.com/environment/epa-chief-scott-pruitt-science-dictate-policy/
Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 29, 2017, 12:15:22 PM
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/epa-chief-scott-pruitt-science-dictate-policy/

It shouldnt - there are numerous considerations that should take place for any policy. 
Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: Straw Man on August 29, 2017, 12:23:38 PM
It shouldnt - there are numerous considerations that should take place for any policy. 

such as?

also, why wouldn't you consider "science" when you're the head of the Environmental Protection Agency

science comes with the territory

Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 29, 2017, 12:27:37 PM
such as?

also, why wouldn't you consider "science" when you're the head of the Environmental Protection Agency

science comes with the territory



Cost, Displacement of people, infringment on peoples' rights, logistical realities, etc
Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: Straw Man on August 29, 2017, 12:40:24 PM
Cost, Displacement of people, infringment on peoples' rights, logistical realities, etc

so let's pick a topic like lead in drinking water (or you choose a topic if you prefer)

how would you list the priorities and where, if anywhere, do you think science should fit into the policy

If science doesn't fit it anywhere then we can agree that we simply don't care about any level of lead in drinking water

Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: Top Poodle on August 29, 2017, 01:32:15 PM
Science has already been thrown out the window with trannies
Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 29, 2017, 01:34:38 PM
so let's pick a topic like lead in drinking water (or you choose a topic if you prefer)

how would you list the priorities and where, if anywhere, do you think science should fit into the policy

If science doesn't fit it anywhere then we can agree that we simply don't care about any level of lead in drinking water



I didnt say anywhere - it must be in balance with others.  "Science" is not the end all and be all.    
Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: illuminati on August 29, 2017, 01:39:58 PM
Science has already been thrown out the window with trannies



I hate science.... So I Must Be A Closet Scientist.
Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 29, 2017, 01:47:29 PM
so let's pick a topic like lead in drinking water (or you choose a topic if you prefer)

how would you list the priorities and where, if anywhere, do you think science should fit into the policy

If science doesn't fit it anywhere then we can agree that we simply don't care about any level of lead in drinking water



Lets take "Climate Change"  - according to alarmist liberals - we should all live in tents and shut down industry because of "Science"  - well is that realistically gonna happen ever?   Regardless of what the "science" claims liberals say it does?
Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: Straw Man on August 29, 2017, 01:48:24 PM
I didnt say anywhere - it must be in balance with others.  "Science" is not the end all and be all.    

I think science should drive the policy with the other issues you mentioned needing to also be considered in the decision making process.

Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: Straw Man on August 29, 2017, 01:49:57 PM
Lets take "Climate Change"  - according to alarmist liberals - we should all live in tents and shut down industry because of "Science"  - well is that realistically gonna happen ever?   Regardless of what the "science" claims liberals say it does?

not aware that anyone (much less any valid scientist) has ever suggested that

Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 29, 2017, 01:52:18 PM
not aware that anyone (much less any valid scientist) has ever suggested that



 ::)
Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: Straw Man on August 29, 2017, 01:56:24 PM
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if you've got a link to someone who is not a hippie fruitcake saying this then please post it
Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: illuminati on August 29, 2017, 01:58:35 PM
not aware that anyone (much less any valid scientist) has ever suggested that




Really  ::)
Then you need to listen more carefully to most of these alarmist liberals
Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: Straw Man on August 29, 2017, 02:02:13 PM

Really  ::)
Then you need to listen more carefully to most of these alarmist liberals


You can post a link if you think someone with a valid scientific opinion has suggested this
Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 29, 2017, 02:04:12 PM
You can post a link if you think someone with a valid scientific opinion has suggested this

Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: illuminati on August 29, 2017, 02:08:23 PM
You can post a link if you think someone with a valid scientific opinion has suggested this

No thanks - I can't be bothered
( Truth I wouldn't know how to post a link )

As stated already in this thread, there are many who suggest we are destroying this planet
& a return to 'Horse & Cart' type of existence is our only salvation

Are your going to dispute that also, or claim you've never seen or heard that.

Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: Straw Man on August 29, 2017, 02:09:09 PM


no time to watch so just tell me what part of this 9 minute video where Gore says "we should all live in tents and shut down industry" and I'll check it  out
Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: Straw Man on August 29, 2017, 02:11:15 PM
No thanks - I can't be bothered
( Truth I wouldn't know how to post a link )

As stated already in this thread, there are many who suggest we are destroying this planet
& a return to 'Horse & Cart' type of existence is our only salvation


Are your going to dispute that also, or claim you've never seen or heard that.



sorry, I don't believe you

I've already said that I've never seen or heard anyone say that

not aware that anyone (much less any valid scientist) has ever suggested that

but if you want to take the time to support your claim with proof I'll definitely check it out an respond back

Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: illuminati on August 29, 2017, 02:15:07 PM
sorry, I don't believe you

I've already said that I've never seen or heard anyone say that

but if you want to take the time to support your claim with proof I'll definitely check it out an respond back




No Thanks

I'm not bothered enough by this topic to spend much time with it

You say you haven't- that's fine by me.
Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 29, 2017, 02:18:48 PM
sorry, I don't believe you

I've already said that I've never seen or heard anyone say that

but if you want to take the time to support your claim with proof I'll definitely check it out an respond back



http://www.heritage.org/environment/report/the-state-climate-science-no-justification-extreme-policies

Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: Top Poodle on August 29, 2017, 02:25:58 PM


I hate science.... So I Must Be A Closet Scientist.

LMAO ;D
Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: Straw Man on August 29, 2017, 02:26:23 PM
http://www.heritage.org/environment/report/the-state-climate-science-no-justification-extreme-policies

just did a quick search of the link for the word "tents" but apparently it's not mentioned in the article

just post the link to the scientist saying "we should all live in tents and shut down industry"

Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: falco on August 30, 2017, 06:08:57 AM
Science disproved religion, in order to become a form of religion itself.
Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 30, 2017, 06:19:54 AM
just did a quick search of the link for the word "tents" but apparently it's not mentioned in the article

just post the link to the scientist saying "we should all live in tents and shut down industry"



 ::)  ::)  ::)

http://www.tribstar.com/opinion/letters_to_the_editor/readers-forum-july-climate-alarmists-now-admit-to-model-flaws/article_9566ac86-65b9-11e7-b482-db39099ca7d3.html


Title: Re: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt: "Science Shouldn't Dictate American Policy"
Post by: mazrim on August 30, 2017, 08:27:03 AM
Sometimes I wonder about the SAT scores of some in the reading comprehension section. Obviously a deliberate attempt to mislead by the author of the article but even then it contradicts itself. The meaning is obvious when in relation to the rest of the interview.

Even this twisted version has Pruitt wanting a debate between those on both sides of the issue so obviously he doesn't mean science is meaningless, etc. in the way they are trying to convey.

It is simply saying that debateable "science" should not be politicized, etc. Obvious when the rest of the interview is shown and what they were discussing. Cannot take numbers/studies and fudge/leave out others to only shine a favorable light to your side. Hence why he would want a debate. He wouldn't call for that if he didn't believe in science. Article has already been called out for the misleading way his quote was portrayed. Just like racism should not be thrown about so freely.