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I think I need TRT. Can I do this without a physical? Can I do this without visiting my primary care physician? :(
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Of course not....trt is a protocal where your blood is taken...levels of hormones monitored and restored to a more youthful level...not a bodybuilding level..this cannot be done without a doctor...physically or legally
Can you buy a bottle of something labeled as test from some guy and shoot it up and see how you feel?
Uh....yes...that's what this board is generally about.
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Good for you for taking the first step.
But do it right---go to the doctor and get your bloods done.
If your doc wont do it go to one of those male sex clinics.
Start there...if u cant get ur insurance to cover it thru your primary--get it 'elsewhere'.
Do whatever u have to do...but do SOMETHING.
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Can you buy a bottle of something labeled as test from some guy and shoot it up and see how you feel?
If you decide to go this route talk with ESFitness
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I think I need TRT. Can I do this without a physical? Can I do this without visiting my primary care physician? :(
Since nobody's asked.....why do you think you need this?
What are your t levels? Age, etc?
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I think I need TRT. Can I do this without a physical? Can I do this without visiting my primary care physician? :(
When you physiologically cannot make test yourself. IOW when you structurally lack deez nutz.
Or if you're bored. (https://a.deviantart.net/avatars/a/t/attacker237.png?1)
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If you decide to go this route talk with trab
I concur.
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Since nobody's asked.....why do you think you need this?
What are your t levels? Age, etc?
T levels feel low. Very low. Stressful environment. Age = 40s.
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Can you buy a bottle of something labeled as test from some guy and shoot it up and see how you feel?
Uh....yes...that's what this board is generally about.
Well that's the problem, I can't put the genie back in the bottle. I have no access to off market test but I know that I need it based on past experience.
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Why would you want to do trt without a physical. I'll be following this thread as I will be contemplating trt when I approach 40.
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Get bloods done through a clinic to see if it's anything else. Dont assume its test related.
If its low, do something about it. Trt can be a life changer. People who poo poo it probably dont have low fest levels. Fuck me it was horrible with low test. Never again.
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around 630 on Tuesday.
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If you have kaiser, don't even waste your time. They will not even discuss the subject. I went to see two kaiser
Endo doctors(40 dollar co-pay each time), and they shut me down quick. Just told me to live with my low test readings. Switched to another medical plan, and the new endo doctor said no problem, you got it.
100 msg a week. Life changing. Do not do this on your own!!!! Gotta have blood work every three months.
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If you have kaiser, don't even waste your time. They will not even discuss the subject. I went to see two kaiser
Endo doctors(40 dollar co-pay each time), and they shut me down quick. Just told me to live with my low test readings. Switched to another medical plan, and the new endo doctor said no problem, you got it.
100 msg a week. Life changing. Do not do this on your own!!!! Gotta have blood work every three months.
GThis. And In addition I'd do a full checkup every 2-3 years or so, including full blood work (also testing for deficiencies, etc.) and an exercise ECG. Did one recently and it was very useful. Have put it in my calender to reorder one early 2019. Good to know that heart and lung function is great, and surprising to find I have low vitamin D.
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1 Get bloods done
2. Go from there...
You wont know without bloods, Test could be fine, so it could be something else, you dont know til you draw.
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Why would you want to do trt without a physical. I'll be following this thread as I will be contemplating trt when I approach 40.
TRT at 40?... that's way too early. I did not start feeling the effects of lower T until I was late 40's. I'm going to put it off for as long as I can. Once you start TRT, there's really no going back.
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Find someone who can hook you up with pharmaceutical grade test. You afraid of needles? You'll probably be taking about 125ml of some sort of test and maybe a few ius from some good grade HGH, also your thyroid may be low may also ad some estrogen blockers. All depends whom you go to and what the deal is..anyway do as these find lads say and get tested, it's a life savor. .
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50
That seems to be the turning point.
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started at around age 40-test was 250 before..life changer
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1 Get bloods done
2. Go from there...
You wont know without bloods, Test could be fine, so it could be something else, you dont know til you draw.
That's where I was going with this.....agree.
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When you cant get it up = trt. Quite simple. And its cheap as well. No need for a doctor. Just do 250mg of t a week and world will get alot better.
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I think I need TRT. Can I do this without a physical? Can I do this without visiting my primary care physician? :(
W/o a physical? Depends on the Dr. I got my first HRT script without a physical was seeing the doctor about something ,fuck I forget what it was, but I sure it's fucking in to get a physical just happen to mention to the doctor is it possible you check my testosterone levels and he asked why and I said "well I've been using steroids since I was 17" and he said okay sure, and sure enough my testosterone levels are below 100 ( it was like 87 or something).... This was when I was like 23.
Then when I got out of prison and came to the Palm Springs area and got a new doctor and said I've been on HRT since 2005 and I need a refill/new script for testosterone and thyroid the bitch who was also a primary care physician damn near freaks out on me and says "well I'm not going to give you a prescription without doing blood work first!" I said "well yeah I kind of expected that that's usually how it works and has worked for the past 6 God damn years. Like I'm not familiar with all this whole process works", and she do blood work and sure enough it was low and so I hadn't had a test shot in like 4 weeks, so I got the script.
So, drs, 2 scripts for 200mg every 2 wks, blood were at the pool times and I wouldn't exactly call what either of the doctors did "a physical"
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When you look it the mirror and see this, then the time for trt was 10 years ago
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Good for you for taking the first step.
But do it right---go to the doctor and get your bloods done.
If your doc wont do it go to one of those male sex clinics.
Start there...if u cant get ur insurance to cover it thru your primary--get it 'elsewhere'.
Do whatever u have to do...but do SOMETHING.
What is a male sex clinic, one of those bathhouses or something
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Well that's the problem, I can't put the genie back in the bottle. I have no access to off market test but I know that I need it based on past experience.
Hi! My I'm ESFitness. Have you heard of me?
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age is one factor, but only in regards to a generality that after a certain age, test levels tend to drop. But as everyone is saying, without a blood test, you don't have adequate info to proceed. I went to a urologist that was recommended to me by a friend. He did the work up and I was around 400. The doc is open to working with me by how I feel, etc and has me on 11 pellets every 3.5 months which keeps me in the 900-1000 range. Been doing this for about 2 years. Insurance covers it 100% which is nice as it is a $2200 procedure.
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When you look it the mirror and see this, then the time for trt was 10 years ago
LMAO
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When you look it the mirror and see this, then the time for trt was 10 years ago
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I'm 40 and my test levels are in the mid 500's, not the greatest but also not terrible considering I was on for almost 7 years straight and didn't do any PCT when I came off heh. Don't feel like I need TRT any time soon.
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TRT at 40?... that's way too early. I did not start feeling the effects of lower T until I was late 40's.
Good for you. I was 36 with test levels of a 60yr old.
High stress from senior level job and other life situation stress factors killed it. Utterly ruined me emotionally first and then thr physical side happened which hits you mentally again.
If you dont feel right, go with your gut and check it out.
Rhetoric like 'thats to young' is why the suicide rate for young males is such an issue regardless of the cause. Low test conquers even the strongest willpower. Why fight a losing battle and ruin your life because society thinks you are being 'weak'.
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Good for you. I was 36 with test levels of a 60yr old.
High stress from senior level job and other life situation stress factors killed it. Utterly ruined me emotionally first and then thr physical side happened which hits you mentally again.
If you dont feel right, go with your gut and check it out.
Rhetoric like 'thats to young' is why the suicide rate for young males is such an issue regardless of the cause. Low test conquers even the strongest willpower. Why fight a losing battle and ruin your life because society thinks you are being 'weak'.
What physical and mental side effects did you have?
We're you still making gains in the gym at least or was that noticeably affected?
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TRT is good. Got mine checked at age 50, test was 253. 11 years on Statins just killed my test levels.
(Guess where testosterone is made in the body, in cholesterol, kill your lipid levels, down go your test levels).
200 mg per week has me up near the high end now (1100).
Life changing...
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Here's a novel idea....How about living a natural, drug free life?
If you don't have the hormones to maintain muscle, find another hobby...
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Here's a novel idea....How about living a natural, drug free life?
If you don't have the hormones to maintain muscle, find another hobby...
i think the guys here are more about feeling like a man again, sex drive, energy and everything else more than building a 20 inch arm
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i think the guys here are more about feeling like a man again, sex drive, energy and everything else more than building a 20 inch arm
Haha exactly, low t feels like fucking shit and ruins any enjoyment of life
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Just know this is life time thing. After being on test for years there is a good chance your own body won't make any test anymore. Another thing is the treatment for an enlarged prostate that happens in huge numbers after 55 is to stop testosterone production. How will you look at 60 with no TRT and taking a pill to cut off your own production? There has been a study that says there is an increased risk of cardio vascular risk with TRT. Of course the studies sponsored by the TRT companies dispute that. One doctor I read said taking test increases the thickness or viscosity of blood leading to an increased risk of cardio vascular problems. A lot of older guys take a baby aspirin a day to thin their blood.
I know two guys that are on TRT from the same doctor I believe. Instead of gels they are injecting test. Judging by the difference in their physiques they are injecting a lot more that what would be used for "therapy."
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Just know this is life time thing. After being on test for years there is a good chance your own body won't make any test anymore. Another thing is the treatment for an enlarged prostate that happens in huge numbers after 55 is to stop testosterone production. How will you look at 60 with no TRT and taking a pill to cut off your own production? There has been a study that says there is an increased risk of cardio vascular risk with TRT. Of course the studies sponsored by the TRT companies dispute that. One doctor I read said taking test increases the thickness or viscosity of blood leading to an increased risk of cardio vascular problems. A lot of older guys take a baby aspirin a day to thin their blood.
I know two guys that are on TRT from the same doctor I believe. Instead of gels they are injecting test. Judging by the difference in their physiques they are injecting a lot more that what would be used for "therapy."
People take all sorts of medication for decades, why is this any different? Should people with depression live natural and stop taking zoloft? Should people with allergies man up and stop taking benadryl? Fuck that shit. It's all about quality of life, not living it as 'naturally' as possible according to someone else's standards.
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I take a 324 grain aspirin every day. My blood is not thick at all. 😎😎😎😎
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Here's a novel idea....How about living a natural, drug free life?
If you don't have the hormones to maintain muscle, find another hobby...
Here's a novel idea as well, fuck off. ;D
Just kidding...
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When you look it the mirror and see this, then the time for trt was 10 years ago
If i saw that in the mirror I would kill myself. Well maybe jus fake killing myself, develop a serious drinking problem and start sucking off dudes
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Here's a novel idea....How about living a natural, drug free life?
If you don't have the hormones to maintain muscle, find another hobby...
Nothing wrong with using drugs or prescription medication if it can relatively safely improve your quality of life.
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Just know this is life time thing. After being on test for years there is a good chance your own body won't make any test anymore. Another thing is the treatment for an enlarged prostate that happens in huge numbers after 55 is to stop testosterone production. How will you look at 60 with no TRT and taking a pill to cut off your own production? There has been a study that says there is an increased risk of cardio vascular risk with TRT. Of course the studies sponsored by the TRT companies dispute that. One doctor I read said taking test increases the thickness or viscosity of blood leading to an increased risk of cardio vascular problems. A lot of older guys take a baby aspirin a day to thin their blood.
I know two guys that are on TRT from the same doctor I believe. Instead of gels they are injecting test. Judging by the difference in their physiques they are injecting a lot more that what would be used for "therapy."
have you ever used steroids?
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What physical and mental side effects did you have?
We're you still making gains in the gym at least or was that noticeably affected?
Depression. Emotional rollercoaster ride. Some days driving to work i wanted to ball my eyes out but couldnt understand why.
Physical was ED after a traumatic/stressful event which made me freak out and hits of depression scared me so much i saw a clinic and never looked back. The depression was the deciding factor. It still scares me today after years.
I hadnt trained in the gym for years but was an avid cyclist so i exercised a good amount.
When i got on trt i went back to the gym. So for me it was trt first and as a result i went back to the gym. Feel great. Look great.
I was already at the stage in life with wife, kids, career, nice things so it wasnt anything about muscles or the physical side. I just wanted to feel normal again and now that i do i can enjoy more things in life.
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Depression. Emotional rollercoaster ride. Some days driving to work i wanted to ball my eyes out but couldnt understand why.
Physical was ED after a traumatic/stressful event which made me freak out and hits of depression scared me so much i saw a clinic and never looked back. The depression was the deciding factor. It still scares me today after years.
I hadnt trained in the gym for years but was an avid cyclist so i exercised a good amount.
When i got on trt i went back to the gym. So for me it was trt first and as a result i went back to the gym. Feel great. Look great.
I was already at the stage in life with wife, kids, career, nice things so it wasnt anything about muscles or the physical side. I just wanted to feel normal again and now that i do i can enjoy more things in life.
Thanks for the detailed reply. Glad it's working out for you.