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Title: Bodybuilding Coverage - Filming and taking pictures
Post by: Ron on September 08, 2017, 09:45:03 AM
So some of you dont know or understand, being a press photographer, you can't just take video or pictures at an event that is on private land or in a private building without permission of someone for 'business' purposes - whether it is for a web site, etc.

The same way you need to get a permit to take pictures on California's public beaches of people and models if you are using them for business use or charging for them.  Facebook, boards, etc different story. Same with many places.

At any event, the promoter can ask and tell you not to take professional pictures of an event, or even conduct interviews at their event. If you wish to conduct interviews or take pictures outside, that is up to you.   Professional pictures and videos usually mean cameras with lens that can be removed, and larger video camera.  Cell phones are different.

Don't make it about the Olympia, or any other bodybuilding event.  Try doing that at a concert or sports stadium.

I have

For a music concert, I was only allowed to take pictures for the first three songs, then had to check my camera in.   For a sports event, forget about getting anywhere near the field without credentials.   And for music or Hollywood events, you usually need to have an 'assignment' meaning that in order to get a press pass, you need to be assigned by a legitimate web site or magazine.

Hell, I tried for Comic-Con, but alas, I am not a legitimate web site that covers comics or movies...

So rude of those Comic-Con guys to not let me have one.  

Title: Re: Filming and taking pictures at events - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on September 08, 2017, 09:55:10 AM
Well played Ron well played.
Title: Re: Filming and taking pictures at events - Discussion
Post by: ratherbebig on September 08, 2017, 11:47:55 AM
whatabout drawing?

are people allowed to draw phil heath without permission
Title: Re: Filming and taking pictures at events - Discussion
Post by: Megalodon on September 08, 2017, 12:05:34 PM
whatabout drawing?

are people allowed to draw phil heath without permission

More and more bodybuilding expos are only permitting licensed sketch artists that can capture Heath quickly and accurately.
Title: Re: Filming and taking pictures at events - Discussion
Post by: dan18 on September 08, 2017, 12:25:43 PM
So some of you dont know or understand, being a press photographer, you can't just take video or pictures at an event that is on private land or in a private building without permission of someone for 'business' purposes - whether it is for a web site, etc.

The same way you need to get a permit to take pictures on California's public beaches of people and models if you are using them for business use or charging for them.  Facebook, boards, etc different story. Same with many places.

At any event, the promoter can ask and tell you not to take professional pictures of an event, or even conduct interviews at their event. If you wish to conduct interviews or take pictures outside, that is up to you.   Professional pictures and videos usually mean cameras with lens that can be removed, and larger video camera.  Cell phones are different.

Don't make it about the Olympia, or any other bodybuilding event.  Try doing that at a concert or sports stadium.

I have

For a music concert, I was only allowed to take pictures for the first three songs, then had to check my camera in.   For a sports event, forget about getting anywhere near the field without credentials.   And for music or Hollywood events, you usually need to have an 'assignment' meaning that in order to get a press pass, you need to be assigned by a legitimate web site or magazine.

Hell, I tried for Comic-Con, but alas, I am not a legitimate web site that covers comics or movies...

So rude of those Comic-Con guys to not let me have one.  



most bodybuilders nowadays are pretty comical so is most of the industry. so not sure what the problem would have been ....comi con should have embraced you there loss
Title: Re: Filming and taking pictures at events - Discussion
Post by: Mitch on September 08, 2017, 12:52:21 PM
yeah because BBing already is so mainstream, one should avoid any type of advertisement for this "sport"  ::)

it's just one step closer to private schmoe sessions.
Title: Re: Filming and taking pictures at events - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on September 08, 2017, 09:55:03 PM
Was this post in reference to Matt's post about Jim Manion (which happen to be deleted)?
Title: Re: Filming and taking pictures at events - Discussion
Post by: el numero uno on September 08, 2017, 10:03:21 PM
Dear Ron

If we ever cross paths, feel free to take as many photos of me as you want.

I'm not a bodybuilder but I'm somewhat good looking.

Best regards
el numero uno
Title: Re: Filming and taking pictures at events - Discussion
Post by: Ron on September 08, 2017, 10:36:47 PM
Dear Ron -If we ever cross paths, feel free to take as many photos of me as you want.  I'm not a bodybuilder but I'm somewhat good looking.
Best regards -el numero uno

As many people on the board and elsewhere will tell you, if you do meet me, I will take your picture and happily say hello.   

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are people allowed to draw phil heath without permission

You can draw Phil Heath as much as you can. You can even post the drawing or picture on the site that you take.  But if you try to sell a product or something for profit with Phil Heath as a representative of that site or product, you can bet you may get a call from someone to take it down.
Title: Re: Filming and taking pictures at events - Discussion
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 09, 2017, 04:55:08 AM
Was this post in reference to Matt's post about Jim Manion (which happen to be deleted)?

It has to be. I'm all for free speech, but posting a private conversation is off limits.
Title: Re: Filming and taking pictures at events - Discussion
Post by: Never1AShow on September 09, 2017, 06:48:13 AM
And ironically the video of the O normally sucks ass because the official camera person doesn't know who or what to focus on. 
Title: Re: Filming and taking pictures at events - Discussion
Post by: The Scott on September 09, 2017, 08:01:10 AM
...You can draw Phil Heath as much as you can. You can even post the drawing or picture on the site that you take.  But if you try to sell a product or something for profit with Phil Heath as a representative of that site or product, you can bet you may get a call from someone to take it down.


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Title: Re: Filming and taking pictures at events - Discussion
Post by: _bruce_ on September 09, 2017, 09:43:31 AM
Your website has a huge audience and you seem polite and professional...  at least the comic "con"s should be more open to indirect promotion.
I remember reading in metal magazines (yes, a dark past) that some bands also had tight restrictions on what content could be taken by photographers of said magazines.  Some of these bands were rather underground, so I do not understand where the concerns might have come from... as monetary interest seemed not to be that real of an option
Title: Re: Filming and taking pictures at events - Discussion
Post by: burnout666 on September 09, 2017, 09:54:15 AM
So how do you explain the thousands of mouth-breathing turd-fiskers who show up at concerts and film shaky 720p footage of Katy Perry to upload to their no one-but-family-cares YouTube and IG accounts?
Title: Re: Filming and taking pictures at events - Discussion
Post by: Simple Simon on September 09, 2017, 10:01:10 AM
So how do you explain the thousands of mouth-breathing turd-fiskers who show up at concerts and film shaky 720p footage of Katy Perry to upload to their no one-but-family-cares YouTube and IG accounts?

he explained it in his OP.
Title: Re: Filming and taking pictures at events - Discussion
Post by: burnout666 on September 09, 2017, 10:22:43 AM
he explained it in his OP.

I didn't read it. I just wanted you to post back a reply like this.  ;D
Title: Re: Filming and taking pictures at events - Discussion
Post by: Simple Simon on September 09, 2017, 10:34:07 AM
I didn't read it. I just wanted you to post back a reply like this.  ;D

I seldom read more than three lines of a post myself.
Title: Re: Filming and taking pictures at events - Discussion
Post by: burnout666 on September 09, 2017, 10:35:49 AM
I seldom read more than three lines of a post myself.

So how do you read ESFitness's posts? Do you have like a proprietary software that condenses four paragraphs of filler into bite-size cliff notes?
Title: Re: Filming and taking pictures at events - Discussion
Post by: Simple Simon on September 09, 2017, 10:46:09 AM
So how do you read ESFitness's posts? Do you have like a proprietary software that condenses four paragraphs of filler into bite-size cliff notes?

I start reading and I stop when I detect bullshit, thats why I have never got past three lines.
Title: Re: Filming and taking pictures at events - Discussion
Post by: Dave D on September 09, 2017, 10:49:03 AM
I seldom read more than three lines of a post myself.

I read less than that
Title: Re: Filming and taking pictures at events - Discussion
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 09, 2017, 05:03:51 PM
So no more Basile clicking on Mr.Olympia  :'( :'( :'(




 ;D
Title: Re: Filming and taking pictures at events - Discussion
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 09, 2017, 05:43:12 PM
Basile takes thousands of photos of Lads at manly beach
Title: Re: Filming and taking pictures at events - Discussion
Post by: DroppingPlates on September 10, 2017, 02:05:23 AM
So no more Basile clicking on Mr.Olympia  :'( :'( :'(




 ;D

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Title: Re: Bodybuilding Coverage and All Things Bodybuilding Related!
Post by: Grape Ape on September 11, 2017, 09:18:23 AM
Here's a question concerning this GetBig Board ....

What percentage of this GetBig input is anti-bodybuilding and all things related?

And ....

What percentage of this GetBig input is pro-bodybuilding and all things related?

My uneducated guess is 50% or more anti-bodybuilding, 40% or more  unrelated shit, and 10% or less pro-bodybuilding.

I come to GetBig to keep up to date on 'questionable' rumors and read about  the world of bodybuilding from most who have never been there but seem to enjoy talking about its misery.





The only %'s you need to know about the board is that it's 100% retards.
Title: Does RXMUSCLE provide the best bodybuilding news coverage?
Post by: stuntmovie on September 11, 2017, 09:45:12 AM
I'm no expert on this topic but is there any place better than RX Muscle (print or internet) that offers accurate reports/information on  all things bodybuilding related?

I think that Dave and his crew do one hell of a great job getting the word out to one and all.
Title: Re: Does RXMUSCLE provide the best bodybuilding news coverage?
Post by: stuntmovie on September 11, 2017, 09:49:21 AM
Does anyone visit this board to gets reliable bodybuilding info or just for laughs?

Here's a question concerning this GetBig Board ....

What percentage of this GetBig input is anti-bodybuilding and all things related?

And ....

What percentage of this GetBig input is pro-bodybuilding and all things related?

My uneducated guess is 50% or more anti-bodybuilding, 40% or more  unrelated shit, and 10% or less pro-bodybuilding.

I come to GetBig to keep up to date on 'questionable' rumors and read about  the world of bodybuilding from most who have never been there but seem to enjoy talking about its misery.
Title: Re: Does RXMUSCLE provide the best bodybuilding news coverage?
Post by: NelsonMuntz on September 11, 2017, 10:03:29 AM
I don't over analyze it, but honestly all the outlets and youtube channels have their good and bad, depends on the person's taste.

As per Dave palumbo, interview stuff he does ok, WHEN he lets people talk, as he has a bad habit of interrupting.

His breaking news stuff is gay as fuck. when he starts beating a story to death(ex Rich Piana Ni@@erGate) or with the constant Blechman slamming, it makes them look desperate and unprofessional.

Aside from that 10/10 of the people who claim to be bodybuilding media from the websites, youtube channels, magazines etc would never get a second look in the real sports world for a job as none of them are actual journalists. I say this within the context that real journalism still exists which it hasn't on any level for a couple of decades.

Biggest problem of the media, both amateur and pro, these days, is they are more about makiing themselves the story rather than going after an actual story so everything gets diluted down to petty bullshit and lies
Title: Re: Does RXMUSCLE provide the best bodybuilding news coverage?
Post by: stuntmovie on September 11, 2017, 10:13:52 AM
NELSON, Thanks! Interesting response!

But with all its faults and inadequacies ..... Do you think RX Muscle provides the best up to date coverage?
Title: Re: Does RXMUSCLE provide the best bodybuilding news coverage?
Post by: NelsonMuntz on September 11, 2017, 10:15:00 AM
NELSON, Thanks! Interesting response!

But with all its faults and inadequacies ..... Do you think RX Muscle provides the best up to date coverage?

Nope.

They like to think they do though.
Title: Re: Bodybuilding Coverage - Filming and taking pictures
Post by: NelsonMuntz on September 11, 2017, 10:17:07 AM
I always wondered what Matt C's take was on this being he is a media mogul up there with Rupert Murdoch and Al Gore
Title: Re: Does RXMUSCLE provide the best bodybuilding news coverage?
Post by: Dan-O on September 11, 2017, 11:39:45 AM
Nope.

They like to think they do though.

Which sites have better coverage?  Admittedly, I don't know a lot of the bodybuilding news sites but RXMuscle does seem to be pretty good, aside from the constant sniping about Blechman and the MD crew that you already mentioned.
Title: Re: Does RXMUSCLE provide the best bodybuilding news coverage?
Post by: ratherbebig on September 11, 2017, 11:40:58 AM
what news?

theres nothing to cover
Title: Re: Does RXMUSCLE provide the best bodybuilding news coverage?
Post by: Royalty on September 11, 2017, 11:49:05 AM
I don't over analyze it, but honestly all the outlets and youtube channels have their good and bad, depends on the person's taste.

As per Dave palumbo, interview stuff he does ok, WHEN he lets people talk, as he has a bad habit of interrupting.

His breaking news stuff is gay as fuck. when he starts beating a story to death(ex Rich Piana Ni@@erGate) or with the constant Blechman slamming, it makes them look desperate and unprofessional.

Aside from that 10/10 of the people who claim to be bodybuilding media from the websites, youtube channels, magazines etc would never get a second look in the real sports world for a job as none of them are actual journalists. I say this within the context that real journalism still exists which it hasn't on any level for a couple of decades.

Biggest problem of the media, both amateur and pro, these days, is they are more about makiing themselves the story rather than going after an actual story so everything gets diluted down to petty bullshit and lies

Dave also talks about himself too much.

He feels the need to constantly mention that he used to weigh 315lbs.

Ok Dave, we know. We heard you the first 30 times. You can stop telling us about your former body weight.
Title: Re: Does RXMUSCLE provide the best bodybuilding news coverage?
Post by: JAGO on September 11, 2017, 12:07:49 PM
RX Muscle is definitely the leader in that field. Evidence . . . RX just received press credentials for The Olympia. With regard to repetitive statements from Dave, he has to assume that there are new viewers for each broadcast. Now, I'll admit I am a big fan of Dave and Chris, however I do think their site is overseen by an individual who banns people who tell him to fuck off when he stalks them and there needs to be brand / identity consistency, the logos for each effort are different. The "RX"in RX Muscle as a logo is dated ( prematurely ) as it was developed during a time fanny packs and baggy PLATINUM EVERYWHERE were in vogue.

J
Title: Re: Does RXMUSCLE provide the best bodybuilding news coverage?
Post by: NelsonMuntz on September 11, 2017, 12:08:46 PM
Dave also talks about himself too much.

He feels the need to constantly mention that he used to weigh 315lbs.

Ok Dave, we know. We heard you the first 30 times. You can stop telling us about your former body weight.

Kind of like when Shawn Ray goes off topic to mention he is a hall of famer.

that is the problem with bodybuilders, especially former ones, always have to one up with that "I used to bench...." insertions in every convo.

point is doing an interview is asking a question and letting the other person answer, not interrupting them every 30 seconds to insert themselves into the answer lol

Which sites have better coverage?  Admittedly, I don't know a lot of the bodybuilding news sites but RXMuscle does seem to be pretty good, aside from the constant sniping about Blechman and the MD crew that you already mentioned.

I don't think any are better or worse than each other, like genration iron, rx, md, digital muscle, all the youtubers all have their strengths and weaknesses. Again I do find that the majority of these self proclaimed media people have gotten way off track and spend too much time trying to either insert themselves into the story or make themselves outright the story ie all the fighting and shit throwing that goes on.

I also feel that the fed spends way too much time policing any media for criticising them, alot of the criticism is valid.

here is a good example of bad journalism, in all fairness this guy does put out some goos stuff but he easily gets sidetracked and has a tendency to kiss ass too much and think everyone in the industry who says "hello" to him must be his new best friend



Title: Re: Does RXMUSCLE provide the best bodybuilding news coverage?
Post by: NelsonMuntz on September 11, 2017, 12:10:47 PM
RX Muscle is definitely the leader in that field. Evidence . . . RX just received press credentials for The Olympia. With regard to repetitive statements from Dave, he has to assume that there are new viewers for each broadcast. Now, I'll admit I am a big fan of Dave and Chris, however I do think their site is overseen by an individual who banns people who tell him to fuck off when he stalks them and there needs to be brand / identity consistency, the logos for each effort are different. The "RX"in RX Muscle as a logo is dated ( prematurely ) as it was developed during a time fanny packs and baggy PLATINUM EVERYWHERE were in vogue.

J

geez wonder who that is.

Honestly I prefer Chris as a writer...as an online personality he is boring and condescending as all hell
Title: Re: Does RXMUSCLE provide the best bodybuilding news coverage?
Post by: Pet shop boys on September 11, 2017, 01:24:15 PM
I don't over analyze it, but honestly all the outlets and youtube channels have their good and bad, depends on the person's taste.

As per Dave palumbo, interview stuff he does ok, WHEN he lets people talk, as he has a bad habit of interrupting.

His breaking news stuff is gay as fuck. when he starts beating a story to death(ex Rich Piana Ni@@erGate) or with the constant Blechman slamming, it makes them look desperate and unprofessional.

Aside from that 10/10 of the people who claim to be bodybuilding media from the websites, youtube channels, magazines etc would never get a second look in the real sports world for a job as none of them are actual journalists. I say this within the context that real journalism still exists which it hasn't on any level for a couple of decades.

Biggest problem of the media, both amateur and pro, these days, is they are more about makiing themselves the story rather than going after an actual story so everything gets diluted down to petty bullshit and lies

I was watching his "  YouTube hurricane update"  lol, over the weekend streaming on tv, where Dave was outdoors holding an umbrella; and the two females that were in the living room with me at the time said "that guy is so GAY"  ....   maybe we got used to his flamboyant ways to move and talk on camera  idk  ....but its very obvious by the average person how feminine Dave has gotten/become ...



WooSHHHHH butt out nipples out
Title: Re: Does RXMUSCLE provide the best bodybuilding news coverage?
Post by: Pet shop boys on September 11, 2017, 01:27:19 PM
Here,  enjoy






WoShhhhh TA NA KA
Title: Re: Does RXMUSCLE provide the best bodybuilding news coverage?
Post by: Nether Animal on September 11, 2017, 01:34:11 PM
Dave has a bad habit of clickbait video titles, especially for "Ask Dave." 40+ minutes of bullshit drug questions by stupid ass kids who have only been working out for a couple of months, and only one thing you care about (and the video title, usually) is briefly mentioned right near the end of the video.

He also talks too much over the interviewees at times, this is well known, and already mentioned. He also tries way too hard to start "trending" topics and repeats the same things again and again, like when Piana was being labeled a "racist." And who can forget his pushing of Levrone as a potential winner of the O last year. He just kept making video after video... so desperate.
Title: Re: Does RXMUSCLE provide the best bodybuilding news coverage?
Post by: Shizzo on September 11, 2017, 01:34:25 PM
RX is shit. They are the third child (at best) in the industry.
Title: Re: Does RXMUSCLE provide the best bodybuilding news coverage?
Post by: Dan-O on September 11, 2017, 02:13:36 PM
I loved this recent Ron Harris interview with Ronnie Coleman, but it was great because of Ronnie and in SPITE of Harris.  Ron H. could hardly have seemed less interested if he'd tried.

Title: Re: Does RXMUSCLE provide the best bodybuilding news coverage?
Post by: JAGO on September 11, 2017, 02:48:58 PM
I loved this recent Ron Harris interview with Ronnie Coleman, but it was great because of Ronnie and in SPITE of Harris.  Ron H. could hardly have seemed less interested if he'd tried.



Before harris keeps interviewing he should clean up his bedroom.

J
Title: Re: Does RXMUSCLE provide the best bodybuilding news coverage?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 11, 2017, 09:03:41 PM
Kind of like when Shawn Ray goes off topic to mention he is a hall of famer.

that is the problem with bodybuilders, especially former ones, always have to one up with that "I used to bench...." insertions in every convo.

point is doing an interview is asking a question and letting the other person answer, not interrupting them every 30 seconds to insert themselves into the answer lol

I don't think any are better or worse than each other, like genration iron, rx, md, digital muscle, all the youtubers all have their strengths and weaknesses. Again I do find that the majority of these self proclaimed media people have gotten way off track and spend too much time trying to either insert themselves into the story or make themselves outright the story ie all the fighting and shit throwing that goes on.

I also feel that the fed spends way too much time policing any media for criticising them, alot of the criticism is valid.

here is a good example of bad journalism, in all fairness this guy does put out some goos stuff but he easily gets sidetracked and has a tendency to kiss ass too much and think everyone in the industry who says "hello" to him must be his new best friend






Christian Duque biggest issue isn't getting sidetracked but that he panders and writes his articles that's too favorable to the IFBB.  A real reporter gives the facts...good or bad about the industry.  In addition, he likes to threaten to kick people's asses which is why he was permanantly banned from RX Muscle. 
Title: Re: Does RXMUSCLE provide the best bodybuilding news coverage?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 11, 2017, 09:13:26 PM
RX is shit. They are the third child (at best) in the industry.


I have to disagree with you...RX Muscle is No.1 in putting out continuous online bodybuilding content at this point.  No other site is doing this...MD, Flex, Generation Iron, etc.
Title: Re: Bodybuilding Coverage - Filming and taking pictures
Post by: sceagacros on September 12, 2017, 04:21:08 AM
Bodybuilders turned video-journalists could take tips from the strength world's Bill Kazmaier, he was always humble and never inserted himself or his achievements into the interview.