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Title: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 08, 2017, 11:33:05 AM
Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent back’
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/08/flashback-clip-shows-clinton-saying-illegal-immigrant-children-should-be-sent-back.html
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Straw Man on September 08, 2017, 11:41:59 AM
Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent back’
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/08/flashback-clip-shows-clinton-saying-illegal-immigrant-children-should-be-sent-back.html

yet again you failed to read beyond the headline

from your link

Quote
Clinton, though, was not speaking about DACA recipients -- rather, she was referring to the surge of illegal immigrant children crossing the border from Central America.

Clinton argued the children should be reunited with their families.

“They should be sent back,” Clinton said.

DACA recipients, often referred to as "Dreamers," generally have a longer-term connection to the U.S., having lived in the country for years and obtained work permits under the program.
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 08, 2017, 12:17:34 PM
yet again you failed to read beyond the headline

from your link


I actually read it THEN watched the video...obviously you didn't
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Straw Man on September 08, 2017, 12:28:08 PM
I actually read it THEN watched the video...obviously you didn't

really, then why did you post this

what does it mean to you?
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 08, 2017, 12:46:47 PM
really, then why did you post this

what does it mean to you?

Just pointing out the continuous left double standard and how full of shit they are. 
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Straw Man on September 08, 2017, 12:54:04 PM
Just pointing out the continuous left double standard and how full of shit they are. 

what is the double standard that you think you see?
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: George Whorewell on September 08, 2017, 05:56:21 PM
what is the double standard that you think you see?

Hook Nose Schiester Schmuck Schumer in 2009=

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOUGPqtxZSc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOUGPqtxZSc)
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: loco on September 09, 2017, 05:46:44 AM
Hook Nose Schiester Schmuck Schumer in 2009=

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOUGPqtxZSc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOUGPqtxZSc)

Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: loco on September 09, 2017, 05:47:18 AM
Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent back’
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/08/flashback-clip-shows-clinton-saying-illegal-immigrant-children-should-be-sent-back.html

Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 09, 2017, 02:34:57 PM
Just pointing out the continuous left double standard and how full of shit they are. 

and you're also demonstrating how the right will see a headline that has nothing to do with the actual facts, and run with it.... and even when it's pointed out it's not the same, they continue to pretend it is
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 10, 2017, 06:12:46 PM
and you're also demonstrating how the right will see a headline that has nothing to do with the actual facts, and run with it.... and even when it's pointed out it's not the same, they continue to pretend it is

Not saying they don't but lets see an example.
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Straw Man on September 10, 2017, 06:26:28 PM
Not saying they don't but lets see an example.

still waiting for you to tell us the double standard that you think you see?
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 12, 2017, 10:59:53 AM
Not saying they don't but lets see an example.

Your response on this thread is a prime example.
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Dos Equis on September 12, 2017, 03:41:36 PM
Your response on this thread is a prime example.

What's the difference between sending back the kids brought here from Mexico as opposed to Central America? 
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Straw Man on September 12, 2017, 05:00:47 PM
What's the difference between sending back the kids brought here from Mexico as opposed to Central America?  

try scrolling up and reading this thread

The kids from Mexico came to this country with their parents and have lived with parents/family in this country for years. They often came over as infants or very young children and have lived in this country their entire life and don't know any other country as "home".

The kids from Central America came over here by themselves and are often teenagers.   They have no guardians or anyone else here.  

Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 12, 2017, 09:47:54 PM
try scrolling up and reading this thread

The kids from Mexico came to this country with their parents and have lived with parents/family in this country for years. They often came over as infants or very young children and have lived in this country their entire life and don't know any other country as "home".

The kids from Central America came over here by themselves and are often teenagers.   They have no guardians or anyone else here.  



this
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Dos Equis on September 13, 2017, 10:21:09 AM
this

This what?
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 13, 2017, 11:00:04 AM
This what?

is the difference
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 13, 2017, 11:04:39 AM
is the difference

You can't have laws based on nonsense like that - you are a cop right ?
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Straw Man on September 13, 2017, 11:16:01 AM
This what?
.
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 13, 2017, 11:25:43 AM
You can't have laws based on nonsense like that - you are a cop right ?

based on nonsense like what?
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Straw Man on September 13, 2017, 11:44:05 AM
this

gotta love how Bum pretends not to understand the difference (one has to assume he's pretending - he can't possibly be that stupid.....can he?)

I wonder why he doesn't just provide an argument in favor of returning both groups (assuming he is in favor of that) rather than pretend not to understand the difference
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 13, 2017, 11:45:59 AM
So we treat mexico different than anyone else ?   Why not Canada ?

What about the illegal brats from mixed parents say one from Mexico and other from Guatemala ? 
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Straw Man on September 13, 2017, 11:51:36 AM
So we treat mexico different than anyone else ?   Why not Canada ?

What about the illegal brats from mixed parents say one from Mexico and other from Guatemala ? 

actually Mexico and Canada would be treated exactly the same...if the parents came over to the US illegally and brought their kids and had been living here for a long time

seriously man, I know you understand the difference between these kids and the ones that Hillary was specifically referring to in that clip
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Dos Equis on September 13, 2017, 12:04:43 PM
is the difference

What is the difference? 
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 13, 2017, 12:35:02 PM
actually Mexico and Canada would be treated exactly the same...if the parents came over to the US illegally and brought their kids and had been living here for a long time

seriously man, I know you understand the difference between these kids and the ones that Hillary was specifically referring to in that clip


no you can't treat some different than others.  What if one parent from mexico and the other from Belize?  Or one from DR and the other Ecuador? 

See this is why the left wing idiocy has no resonance here.  Blame the a-hole parents and if they care about their kids - they will take them back home with them and make do. 

Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 14, 2017, 10:17:01 AM
What is the difference? 

Nevermind
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 14, 2017, 10:18:36 AM
gotta love how Bum pretends not to understand the difference (one has to assume he's pretending - he can't possibly be that stupid.....can he?)

I wonder why he doesn't just provide an argument in favor of returning both groups (assuming he is in favor of that) rather than pretend not to understand the difference

You can explain it to them, you cant understand it for them
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Straw Man on September 14, 2017, 10:33:15 AM
You can explain it to them, you cant understand it for them

I suspect Bum understands it just fine (a third grader could understand it)

The problem Bum is having is he can't defend his position so he chooses to pretend he doesn't understand the argument

Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 14, 2017, 10:36:40 AM
I suspect Bum understands it just fine (a third grader could understand it)

The problem Bum is having is he can't defend his position so he chooses to pretend he doesn't understand the argument



So what if a kid has parents from Mexico and Guatamala vs a lil taco with parents both from Mexico? 
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Nick Danger on September 14, 2017, 10:37:32 AM
I suspect Bum understands it just fine (a third grader could understand it)

The problem Bum is having is he can't defend his position so he chooses to pretend he doesn't understand the argument



I'm not sure who Bum is but Dos Equis does this all the time.
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Dos Equis on September 14, 2017, 10:49:40 AM
Nevermind

So you got nothing. 
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Straw Man on September 14, 2017, 11:09:41 AM
So what if a kid has parents from Mexico and Guatamala vs a lil taco with parents both from Mexico? 

you're playing dumb too?
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 14, 2017, 11:17:40 AM
you're playing dumb too?


No - its a legit question if you want to treat kids from mexico different than guatamala. 
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 14, 2017, 11:20:02 AM
No - its a legit question if you want to treat kids from mexico different than guatamala. 

Group A comes to America as children WITH their family and have been here for years
Group B comes to America as children without their family and just arrived.

Tell me you can't figure out the difference?
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 14, 2017, 11:22:42 AM
Group A comes to America as children WITH their family and have been here for years
Group B comes to America as children without their family and just arrived.

Tell me you can't figure out the difference?

How are you going to figure that out when most of these people lie and have all fake docs?
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 14, 2017, 11:26:01 AM
How are you going to figure that out when most of these people lie and have all fake docs?

your response is at best irrelevant to the discussion
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 14, 2017, 11:27:29 AM
your response is at best irrelevant to the discussion

No its not - how are you possibly a cop with such faulty reasoning ability?


How do you determine who came here and when if they are using fake docs?

Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 14, 2017, 11:31:23 AM
No its not - how are you possibly a cop with such faulty reasoning ability?


How do you determine who came here and when if they are using fake docs?



Am I supposed to make the assumption they have fake documents because that doesn't seem to be the norm
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Dos Equis on September 14, 2017, 12:23:03 PM
Group A comes to America as children WITH their family and have been here for years
Group B comes to America as children without their family and just arrived.

Tell me you can't figure out the difference?

A distinction without a difference.  Both are illegal, but only one set gets sent home.  You either keep them all or send them all home.  If you're being consistent. 
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Las Vegas on September 14, 2017, 01:20:25 PM
Yeah, I think maybe the problem is that it gives such strong incentive to lie, freely, that the whole thing might as well be written off with a wink and a nod.  Then, the fact it's pushed forward just the same by someone who can (and will) stay removed from us pathetic little nobodies and our everyday society, it begins to look like a serious insult.
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Straw Man on September 14, 2017, 05:18:38 PM
A distinction without a difference.  Both are illegal, but only one set gets sent home.  You either keep them all or send them all home.  If you're being consistent. 

there is a HUGE difference but of course you're choosing to ignore it

a skill you've honed over the years as a fundie conservative

both viewpoints require a selective and ŕ la carte approach to reality

Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Las Vegas on September 14, 2017, 05:57:55 PM
there is a HUGE difference but of course you're choosing to ignore it

a skill you've honed over the years as a fundie conservative

both viewpoints require a selective and ŕ la carte approach to reality



Straw, you must admit that when it comes to being illegal, there's no real difference.  That's the whole point.  If there are to be ANY laws, at all, then any "difference" claimed in this case is nothing but a plea to break them.
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Straw Man on September 14, 2017, 09:02:10 PM
Straw, you must admit that when it comes to being illegal, there's no real difference.  That's the whole point.  If there are to be ANY laws, at all, then any "difference" claimed in this case is nothing but a plea to break them.

here's the difference (honestly can't believe it needs to be explained again)

you have a child brought over here by a parent (the child had no choice) and has lived in this country their entire life.
They know no other country. They've lived here their entire life with their mother and father and often with other sibling who are citizens by virtue of being born here. The child (now young adult) has followed all the rules and is an upstanding person (not getting in trouble, going to school or even IN THE MILITARY)

on the other hand

you have a child or more often a teenager who just showed up a few weeks or months ago
They came here on their own (their choice) and they have no family here, no means of support, haven't done any of the things mentioned above

In your mind those two examples are basically identical

I disagree

So do many other people including Trump

Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on September 14, 2017, 09:17:01 PM
here's the difference (honestly can't believe it needs to be explained again)

you have a child brought over here by a parent (the child had no choice) and has lived in this country their entire life.
They know no other country. They've lived here their entire life with their mother and father and often with other sibling who are citizens by virtue of being born here. The child (now young adult) has followed all the rules and is an upstanding person (not getting in trouble, going to school or even IN THE MILITARY)

on the other hand

you have a child or more often a teenager who just showed up a few weeks or months ago
They came here on their own (their choice) and they have no family here, no means of support, haven't done any of the things mentioned above

In your mind those two examples are basically identical

I disagree

So do many other people including Trump





Fuck off you commie bastard
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Straw Man on September 14, 2017, 10:07:02 PM


Fuck off you commie bastard

why do you keep repeating the same thing ?

can't make any more effort than that?

why do you believe I'm a commie and/or bastard?
Title: Re: Flashback clip shows Clinton saying illegal immigrant children ‘should be sent b
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 15, 2017, 09:28:25 AM


Fuck off you commie bastard

Gotta tell ya, I missed that chuckle I always got seeing your blue stars. That's some funny shit!