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If he didn't win it this year in the kind of condition he was, he never will..... unless Bonak (sp?) and Phil are out of the picture .
No Guru can do a miracle unless he wants to risk his health even further.... and still, that's his genetics
I wouldn't mind seeing him taking the sandow from Phil sat night the way he looked ..... but that's another story
WoooSHHHHHH BE YE KE
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well he's four years younger.
at some time, age will catch up with phil.
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well he's four years younger.
at some time, age will catch up with phil.
Maybe, but we will have to assume Ramy will keep that same condition/size for the next 4 years .....
You could say Jay finally ended up catching Ronnie , but Ronnie was 9 years older than Jay !
WooSHHHHHHHHH
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I think he can get better. In his lower body, specifically. I know it sounds crazy cause his quads are insanely big, but his hamstrings need a better drop and way more separation in the quads. I think if he can bring out the quad feathering and separation, get bigger hamstrings and dry out like he did last year with Aceto, he will win.
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I wonder if he sacrificed a few pounds to coming in even harder?...he could easily come in twenty pounds lighter and still dwarf Heath. Will he have an epiphany such as Kai's and realize the futility of involving himself any further in such a corrupt sham of a "contest"?
Perhaps the Arnold will overshadow the O over the next few years as social media exposes how fixed the O really is. I can see how in times past it was all too easy to get away with the fixed contests but in the information age even lay people are able to quickly search and see photos that don't support Phil's "win" and read about his narrow clavicles and dangling belly growth.
Kai realized that Weinberger was crooked and never looked back, now he's in movies and making bank far and above "Mr. Olympia" , appearing on television shows, signing with Yates's new League....realizing that the Olympia fraud was a waste of his time and energy has worked out quite well for Kai.
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This photo may not say it all...but it says a lot. :o
One clear thing that Phil has over Big Ramy is conditioning. Aside from that, I would say he has a better rear lat spread, and better hamstrings. If Big Ramy improves in those areas, he may be able to beat Phil, but until that day, I think it will go to Phil over Ramy any time they compete against one another.
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Glad we have an Olympia winner with full on Palumboism and that nasty flat distended ab look.
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It's amazing that it seems to come down to the back.
What about being destroyed from the front. I'm not seeing this superiority in overall conditioning either. Phil looks smooth and glossy in the entire chest and gut area.
This photo may not say it all...but it says a lot. :o
One clear thing that Phil has over Big Ramy is conditioning. Aside from that, I would say he has a better rear lat spread, and better hamstrings. If Big Ramy improves in those areas, he may be able to beat Phil, but until that day, I think it will go to Phil over Ramy any time they compete against one another.
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This photo may not say it all...but it says a lot. :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=636382.0;attach=744227;image)
One clear thing that Phil has over Big Ramy is conditioning. Aside from that, I would say he has a better rear lat spread, and better hamstrings. If Big Ramy improves in those areas, he may be able to beat Phil, but until that day, I think it will go to Phil over Ramy any time they compete against one another.
Ramy killing phil in that shot , How are they both 5'9"?
WooSHhhhhhhhhh
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Ramy killing phil in that shot , How are they both 5'9"?
WooSHhhhhhhhhh
Ramy is 5'10"
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Ramy killing phil in that shot , How are they both 5'9"?
WooSHhhhhhhhhh
Phil is probably my height - 5'85", or a lying 5'9. Big Ramy is a legit 5'10 as lightweight said, which is very tall for a bodybuilder. Oh, and I forgot to add this to my previous post:
WoooSHHHHHH LE VRO NE
LOL!!! Love that phaggoty expression. Phucking phaggot. Dumb phaggot. Love reading when you put that.
WoooSHHHHHH BE YE KE
LOL.
Phucking phaggot.
Bah!
Doom disapproves.
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Big Ramy is trending on yahoo.
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I wonder if he sacrificed a few pounds to coming in even harder?...he could easily come in twenty pounds lighter and still dwarf Heath. Will he have an epiphany such as Kai's and realize the futility of involving himself any further in such a corrupt sham of a "contest"?
Perhaps the Arnold will overshadow the O over the next few years as social media exposes how fixed the O really is. I can see how in times past it was all too easy to get away with the fixed contests but in the information age even lay people are able to quickly search and see photos that don't support Phil's "win" and read about his narrow clavicles and dangling belly growth.
Kai realized that Weinberger was crooked and never looked back, now he's in movies and making bank far and above "Mr. Olympia" , appearing on television shows, signing with Yates's new League....realizing that the Olympia fraud was a waste of his time and energy has worked out quite well for Kai.
What on earth gives you that idea? Has he been on any mainstream TV shows or ads? Cos I haven't seen any. The closest he's come to an acting gig is rehearsing with other nobodies who couldnt act on Generation Iron. Where he sucked IMMENSELY.
Please show me one thing Kai did this year that got him a half a million dollar pay check.
As seen in GI, Phil lives like a king compared to Kai.
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Everyone on the Olympia stage is maxed out, that's how they qualified to compete
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Phil may be Mr O but Ramy raped his ass on the ropes from every angle.
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Everyone on the Olympia stage is maxed out, that's how they qualified to compete
Sort of. Bonac is maxed out as well, he won't ever improve from this. For a lot of guys its just a standstill, waiting for other people to fade due to age/get injured.
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Yep. Mr o shouldn't be killed in any shot
.Phil may be Mr O but Ramy raped his ass on the ropes from every angle.
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For a lot of guys its just a standstill, waiting for other people to fade due to age/get injured.
This!
So many guys harp on about beating thier last outing, but how many of them actually make noticable improvements from show to show these days?
I can pretty much guess how/what everyone will look like before they turn up.
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Sort of. Bonac is maxed out as well, he won't ever improve from this. For a lot of guys its just a standstill, waiting for other people to fade due to age/get injured.
Yeah, that's often how new guys become Mr Olympia. One of the exceptions was Haney->Yates
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This photo may not say it all...but it says a lot. :o
One clear thing that Phil has over Big Ramy is conditioning. Aside from that, I would say he has a better rear lat spread, and better hamstrings. If Big Ramy improves in those areas, he may be able to beat Phil, but until that day, I think it will go to Phil over Ramy any time they compete against one another.
ramy is bigger and more aesthetic than lil phillipe.
phil's midsection is destroyed from the palumboism. he has no chest and extremely narrow clavicles. he's overdoing the site injects on the delts now as well (probably to make up for the lack of natural shoulder width).
ramy is nearly 2 heaths wide
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well he's four years younger.
at some time, age will catch up with phil.
Bonac is a lot older than I thought too. I thought he was a young/new guy but evidently he's 35?
http://www.greatestphysiques.com/william-bonac/
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Yep. Mr o shouldn't be killed in any shot
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I don't think Haney ever got owned in any shot, he even held his own with an up and coming Dorian
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Big Ramy is trending on yahoo.
Would love to see the yahoo Matt Canning partially trending on yahoo with a parsh.
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It's politics, has zero to do with his peak.
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Would love to see the yahoo Matt Canning partially trending on yahoo with a parsh.
haha- and of course a mention of his height at 5'8.50001"
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Bonac is a lot older than I thought too. I thought he was a young/new guy but evidently he's 35?
http://www.greatestphysiques.com/william-bonac/
But with the Olympia , the YOUNGER you are the more at risk of death you become
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I think he can get better. In his lower body, specifically. I know it sounds crazy cause his quads are insanely big, but his hamstrings need a better drop and way more separation in the quads. I think if he can bring out the quad feathering and separation, get bigger hamstrings and dry out like he did last year with Aceto, he will win.
With all due respect, if Ramy did exactly as you suggest, cynic that I am, I don't think he'd win. I think Jim Manion and Steve Weinberger simply don't want him as Mr Olympia. The only way they'd let him win is if Phil drops out and everyone else looks unusually awful.
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Honestly I think he peaked his debut in the New York Pro, looked way better then.
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I agree
I think ramy looked best when he won the NY pro
unfortunately palumboism is setting in his abs and arms- arms look smaller
he kills Phil in RLS!
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Honestly I think he peaked his debut in the New York Pro, looked way better then.
Hard to think he doesn't have one single sandow looking like that
WooShhhhhhhhhhhhh Ta NAKA
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Pretty much outstanding size and still shapely.
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Ramy probably should have been 3rd. He needs to come in about 10 lbs lighter.
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With all due respect, if Ramy did exactly as you suggest, cynic that I am, I don't think he'd win. I think Jim Manion and Steve Weinberger simply don't want him as Mr Olympia. The only way they'd let him win is if Phil drops out and everyone else looks unusually awful.
You might be right. But my point is he CAN get better from where he's at and where he's been. Its a matter of time, I think.
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You might be right. But my point is he CAN get better from where he's at and where he's been. Its a matter of time, I think.
He needs to drop at least 10 pounds, but Bader prob wouldn't allow that.
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There is a point where size should overcome conditioning, especially if the bigger guy is in shape but just a few percentage points less conditioned. Focusing on someone being a small slight bit leaner or harder only makes sense when all other things are equal, which they are not with Ramy and Phil.
Plus Phil's smooth gut and quauto midsection twin bursting out should be marked down.
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Vince CEO, MSFT HIV LGBTQ said he grew too quick and that muscle needs to mature.
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I think that Ramy peaked at the 2015 Arnold Classic Brazil
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It's amazing that it seems to come down to the back.
What about being destroyed from the front. I'm not seeing this superiority in overall conditioning either. Phil looks smooth and glossy in the entire chest and gut area.
Same thing happened with Dorian and Nasser in 96 and 97. All Dorian had going for himself by then was conditioning and a back, which was enough to beat out Nasser and far more complete guys like Shawn Ray, who like Bonac was a few inches shorter than the rest. Nothing has changed in 20 years.
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Problem with Ramy = to much gear so he holds water. He listens to much to Bader who knows nothing about getting really shredded.
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Needs to up the dose.
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If he didn't win it this year in the kind of condition he was, he never will..... unless Bonak (sp?) and Phil are out of the picture .
No Guru can do a miracle unless he wants to risk his health even further.... and still, that's his genetics
I wouldn't mind seeing him taking the sandow from Phil sat night the way he looked ..... but that's another story
WoooSHHHHHH BE YE KE
He supposedly weighed in at 295, if thats true he lost because he hardness. Although separated, he was still a bit smooth compared to Heath and Bonac even Dexter for that matter. He placed second (IMO) on having a near flawless physique and being huge. Again, IMO, he and his handlers focused more on size and being 'Big Ramy" other than being "Big shredded Ramy". He comes down another 10-12lbs and no one would touch him. If he continues coming in this shape, Phil will win his 8th.
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He supposedly weighed in at 295, if thats true he lost because he hardness. Although separated, he was still a bit smooth compared to Heath and Bonac even Dexter for that matter. He placed second (IMO) on having a near flawless physique and being huge. Again, IMO, he and his handlers focused more on size and being 'Big Ramy" other than being "Big shredded Ramy". He comes down another 10-12lbs and no one would touch him. If he continues coming in this shape, Phil will win his 8th.
He already did what you suggested... last year... 278 at prejudging. Looked bad. Flat.
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He already did what you suggested... last year... 278 at prejudging. Looked bad. Flat.
Yeah, everyone is hyping up last year but he didnt look that good
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He uses to much shit. Maybe that or not long enough/long enough training. Something just does'nt pop and look cut enough. You can see it too. But its just that final touch of "something" and he will be mr o forever! :'(
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This is Jordan Peters from the UK
He is a huge guy but when he poses nothing happens, he looks exactly the same, Ramy is along the same lines..
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Tom prince was the king of muscle popping. A lot of these current guys, nothing happens when they pose
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He already did what you suggested... last year... 278 at prejudging. Looked bad. Flat.
Then they need to go over his pharmaceuticals and correct his chemical imbalance. Seems 282-285 would have been just about right.
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Tom prince was the king of muscle popping. A lot of these current guys, nothing happens when they pose
Yes yes! Tom was the ultimate king of this. To bad he disapeared. Anyone know how hes doing? Great guy. Also personalitywise. Even if he did lots of bain...
I have never seen hamstrings like Toms in bb history.
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the ifbb heads are a bit clueless. hardcore bodybuilding is dead in the usa. handing it to phil (despite his piss poor physique) does nothing to progress the "sport" and he's not a good ambassador, quite a prick actually. if they gave it to the rightful mr olympia i.e. big ramy, the popularity of bodybuilding would explode (no pun intended) in the middle east and asia.
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He already did what you suggested... last year... 278 at prejudging. Looked bad. Flat.
This looked like a perfect Ramy
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KwIC7RzinWM/maxresdefault.jpg)
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This must be 1 meter quads = 40 inches. Ive worked in bb for 18 years now and this is so extreme i grasp my fucking head!
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This looked like a perfect Ramy
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KwIC7RzinWM/maxresdefault.jpg)
That was 2014
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That was 2014
And he looks his best.
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if phil was better than ramy this year, Mr. Levrone was better than ronnie in 2000
phil was better conditioned, but completely out muscled by ramy
ronnie was bigger and less conditioned than Mr. Levrone, he even had a gut like phil but unlike ramy
so how does phil win but Mr. Levrone lose?
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Ramy needs to refine what he has and stay light in the offseason.
Heath is firmly in stage 1 palumboism.